LC Questions JREF credentials

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OldSchool at Loose Change just posted this:
JREF members claim too be educated. I Have found there is little evidence too support there claim. Anybody can log into there website without any screening process. They're [an] extremely close minded group which most often attempts too change the subject too a substantial post. They offer no substantial response too anything which challenges there narrow view of reality. I have found quite a few polls from MSNBC, CNN, and the Washington post which actually places the views of Loose Change and other Conspiracy documents as widely accepted. The polls were quite a surprise, I personally didn't expect our view too be the majority. It is a pleasant surprise too actually be part of a movement which is the Majority View.
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How many errors in compostion is that in this introductory paragraph? By the way, what screening process does LC forum have? Also, I don't think we have admins in their teens here like LC does. Really, it seems quite a few regular posters at LC are in their teens.
I have a few question about the JREF forum.

Does anybody have any information which confirms there claim too being a Legitimate "Educated Website"
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Actually, it is an educational foundation. Look up at the top of the web pages at JREF and you will see it.
Is there any possibility they're government Sponsored in an attempt too slow the truth movement.
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Are the JREF forum members simply a product of Government Propaganda and a means for "Organized Brainwashed" too assemble.
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Or could it be that the many highly educated people here at JREF actually disagree with the youtube analysis performed by people who generally have no education in the area of mechanics, physics, chemistry or metallurgy?

Went looking for a forum not too long ago which was a challenge too the Truth Movement as I am fairly new too the subject. I have found they have very little creditability as they rely upon government reports as there defense. Keep the faith it appears "The Truth Movement" has a vast majority of Public Support.
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What exactly do you require as evidence? Surely you would trust structural engineers over non-engineers, right?


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ETA link: http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=13177
 
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What I find funny is how the twoofers direct so much of their energy at us.

Don't they have a mass murdering government to take down?

Don't they have thousands of engineers to refute?

Don't they have a demolition industry that needs to be set straight on how to spot demolitions?

Funny how some message board posters can so distract people from their goal of saving the world.

Although the fact that we are distracting them is a pretty good indication of how pathetically weak their case is. After 5+ years of research they're still pissing around on the web battling debunkers when they should be out peer-reviewing their work and organizing that new investigation they so badly want.
 
Nim Chimpsky said:
someone please show him the qualifications thread that was done a little while ago
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[in OldSchool voice] But, but..anyone can make up anyting and post it at JREF. Not like at Loose Change where all posters are properly credentialed. :)

It amazes me that they think kids who have not graduated from High School can fathom the intricacies of engineering. Frankly, I wonder why we bother with some of our more scientific arguments when we are arguing with someone who turns out to be all of 15 years old. For me, that tells me it is time to shut down cause the rebellious 15 year old will never listen to a stodgy old engineer over the excitement and validation that Dylan Avery and Alex Jones can provide them.

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Still touting unscientific polls as evidence, I see.

He is literally incapable of comprehending that his polls are unscientific, meaningless, and very obviously ballot-stuffed. Like these dopey truthers honestly seem to believe if they all ballot-stuff the online polls, somehow it magically becomes reality.
 
yes he is bragging about these polls, for which he has not presented a single link or sourcing as proof. Then he questions our credentials...well he can check our list, which is a thread on this site, and if he chooses not to believe them...fine. I'll be damned if I am gonna let my name and location out for these truther psychopaths to find...

TAM:)
 
CHF said:
Don't they have a mass murdering government to take down?

Don't they have thousands of engineers to refute?

Don't they have a demolition industry that needs to be set straight on how to spot demolitions?
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Don't all these people just ignore the fruitcakes?


Maybe we have something to learn from them ;)
 
Cute...PDOPE is intentionally using the wrong too/two/to over there. C'mon, can't you guys see why he posted this? He is hurt that you guys made his posts look stupid.
 
yes they all have a long list of credentials proving they are morons...

TAM:)
 
What is fun is that over there they scream about how JREF members just 'claim to have credentials' and as if to prove it one or two of them comes over here claiming to be an engineer or somesuch.

Problem is, there's a mountain of difference between claiming credentials and demonstrating them. JREF members are quite effective at demonstrating their credentials, wheras the troofer socks usually just ignore their massive errors and try to punch through with their pet claim.
 
Horatius said:
Don't all these people just ignore the fruitcakes?

Maybe we have something to learn from them ;)
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I see us as doing the world's engineers a favour.

Rather than spend their time answering the same stupid questions from these clueless twits over and over again, they're free to do their jobs while we handle the twoofers for fun.

Besides, it's not like twoofers actually approach experts anyway. They're terrified of them.
 
They've got my name. They can look me up if they want. They have before. They never learn. They do this all the time.
 
I never said I'm qualified, so they can question me all they want! However, I have the access to academic journals and therefore can make my up my mind when I read them and try to understand them because they are coming from people who are qualified in their field instead of 15 year olds using youtube to come up with arguments...
 
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[in OldSchool voice] But, but..anyone can make up anyting and post it at JREF. Not like at Loose Change where all posters are properly credentialed. :)
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I believe the word (in OldSchool mode) would be "credentialified".
 
Juustin said:
I believe the word (in OldSchool mode) would be "credentialified".
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See, that's why I post - for funnies like that. :)

Actually, (in OldSchool mode) it would be "...there credentialications were to phony because there allowed too say anything on the Internet."
 
I have found quite a few polls from MSNBC, CNN, and the Washington post which actually places the views of Loose Change and other Conspiracy documents as widely accepted. The polls were quite a surprise, I personally didn't expect our view too be the majority. It is a pleasant surprise too actually be part of a movement which is the Majority View.
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And yet, they claim that Ron Paul is a 9/11 truther, but he isn't promoting that because he needs to appeal to the majority.

Truther "logic" is ridiculous.
 
I'd be curious to know the average IQ of posters at JREF vs at LC.

I mean...it's kind of a rhetorical question, but still...
 
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