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pgwenthold 4th September 2020 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 13212133)
Just an update: The right-wing response to this report so far

1) It's all fake news
2) BENGHAZI!!!!!

(seriously, the claim is that his comments are ok because of Benghazi)

Update: Fox News as confirmed the story, so it's no longer fake news.

Cain 4th September 2020 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13212168)
Trump Tweets

The Atlantic Magazine is dying, like most magazines, so they make up a fake story in order to gain some relevance. Story already refuted, but this is what we are up against. Just like the Fake Dossier. You fight and and fight, and then people realize it was a total fraud!

Get 'em, Mr. President. The only anonymous source I believe is Q.

Armitage72 4th September 2020 02:29 PM

"Thought we forgot?"

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I AGREE

thaiboxerken 4th September 2020 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 13212507)
Update: Fox News as confirmed the story, so it's no longer fake news.

So now it's to the next stage in the "Trump did something bad" news cycle...

TheSupermeerkat 4th September 2020 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 13212557)
So now it's to the next stage in the "Trump did something bad" news cycle...

Is it butteremails?

Safe-Keeper 4th September 2020 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin (Post 13211537)
Yes, yes, but still you have to concede that Trump was sent by God.

Why? God hardening hearts around America would actually be a long awaited explanatino to how the trumpkins could elect him, and stand by him no matter what, but it's not like there are Isrealites held captive in America. What did they do to deserve this punishment?

Safe-Keeper 4th September 2020 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Armitage72 (Post 13212550)
"Thought we forgot?"

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I AGREE

There's an old Trump tweet for every occasion. They age like fine wine.

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Originally Posted by President BoneSpurs
The United States of America will NOT be cutting funding to @starsandstripes magazine under my watch. It will continue to be a wonderful source of information to our Great Military!

"I prefers magazines that weren't cancelled, okay?!"

Trebuchet 4th September 2020 04:40 PM

Fox News reporter confirms his disdain for the military. Especially the dead ones.

Stacyhs 4th September 2020 04:53 PM

John Kelly needs to speak. He needs to confirm if this happened, which I think it did. It's very much in line with Trump's character and his past behavior. Trump has attacked Kelly and disparaged him. Kelly owes Trump nothing. He owes the American people the truth.

BobTheCoward 4th September 2020 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 13212631)
Fox News reporter confirms his disdain for the military. Especially the dead ones.

You mean another person makes claims without presenting their evidence.

Stacyhs 4th September 2020 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward (Post 13212650)
You mean another person makes claims without presenting their evidence.

Oh, come on. This is freaking FOX, not some MSNBC.

BobTheCoward 4th September 2020 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13212653)
Oh, come on. This is freaking FOX, not some MSNBC.

Doesn't matter who it is. My expectation is that those making a claim present their evidence.

ETA: I admit this is a luxury. This claim will not change my actions on anything, so I can afford to be conservative.

But if I were to guess, you could also afford to be conservative.

BobTheCoward 4th September 2020 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13212649)
John Kelly needs to speak. He needs to confirm if this happened, which I think it did. It's very much in line with Trump's character and his past behavior. Trump has attacked Kelly and disparaged him. Kelly owes Trump nothing. He owes the American people the truth.

I dont feel owed the details of a private conversation. I have no claim on it.

Lurch 4th September 2020 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13212168)
Trump Tweets

The Atlantic Magazine is dying, like most magazines, so they make up a fake story in order to gain some relevance. Story already refuted, but this is what we are up against. Just like the Fake Dossier. You fight and and fight, and then people realize it was a total fraud!

Great Jobs Numbers! 1.37 Million Jobs Added In August. Unemployment Rate Falls To 8.4% (Wow, much better than expected!). Broke the 10% level faster and deeper than thought possible.

Weak tea on the rebuttal, Donnie. If it was really 'fake news' you'd be screaming about a lawsuit. But you won't, because discovery will lay bare the truth.

Steve 4th September 2020 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward (Post 13212660)
I dont feel owed the details of a private conversation. I have no claim on it.

Yeah, but that’s you.

Stacyhs 4th September 2020 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward (Post 13212660)
I dont feel owed the details of a private conversation. I have no claim on it.

Great. I do feel owed the truth on this.

Aridas 4th September 2020 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13212653)
Oh, come on. This is freaking FOX, not some MSNBC.

Note who you're talking to.

BobTheCoward 4th September 2020 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13212687)
Great. I do feel owed the truth on this.

Why? Based on what principle?

Stacyhs 4th September 2020 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Aridas (Post 13212688)
Note who you're talking to.

Noted. I will not take that step into the deep and dark abyss.

varwoche 4th September 2020 05:20 PM

Some of you better hope that reincarnation is malarkey. Or if it's real, that you don't come back as a fish. That wouldn't go well.

Stacyhs 4th September 2020 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by varwoche (Post 13212691)
Some of you better hope that reincarnation is malarkey. Or if it's real, that you don't come back as a fish. That wouldn't go well.

OK....that one went right past me like an arrow.....:confused:

pgwenthold 4th September 2020 06:08 PM

So the defense now is that it's not that he hates the military, he's just an *******

BTW, they admit that he is lying in his denial

Crazy Chainsaw 4th September 2020 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 13212720)
So the defense now is that it's not that he hates the military, he's just an *******

BTW, they admit that he is lying in his denial

He is the Birtherdent he was born to Lie, some of his lies even break the laws of physics!

Skeptic Ginger 4th September 2020 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Armitage72 (Post 13212550)
"Thought we forgot?"

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I AGREE

I love it. I wonder if it is getting to any of the Republicans that aren't part of Trump's cult?

phiwum 4th September 2020 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 13212720)
So the defense now is that it's not that he hates the military, he's just an *******

BTW, they admit that he is lying in his denial

Link? Who is saying what?

Skeptic Ginger 4th September 2020 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 13212631)
Fox News reporter confirms his disdain for the military. Especially the dead ones.

That's good. Is it getting any airtime?

SezMe 4th September 2020 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin (Post 13211537)
I'm seeing election day listed as Nov. 3, myself.

The date I'm referring to came up in a post where I was responding to when the GOP will turn on Trump. I stated it would be the day after he loses, Nov. 4.

TragicMonkey 4th September 2020 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SezMe (Post 13212772)
The date I'm referring to came up in a post where I was responding to when the GOP will turn on Trump. I stated it would be the day after he loses, Nov. 4.

He'll still be president until the next one gets sworn in. A president can do a lot of things in almost three months. Pardons. Appointments. Firings. Executive orders. He could do a lot of damage if he were a nasty-minded maniac with a penchant for holding grudges.

Who wants to place bets on Trump being mature, dignified, and sane in the face of losing something he really, really wants and really, really feels he deserves?

JoeMorgue 4th September 2020 07:32 PM

I do wonder on a long enough time frame if the "lame duck" period is another thing we need to address and see if it needs adjustment.

shemp 4th September 2020 07:33 PM

Bit late, innit?

Regnad Kcin 4th September 2020 07:39 PM

Nobody seems to recollect this: ”You’re a bunch of dopes and babies!

In short: Of course he referred to military dead as losers. The surprise would be if he managed to never do so.

varwoche 4th September 2020 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13212709)
OK....that one went right past me like an arrow.....:confused:

I refer to the eager and willing bait swallowers.

Resume 4th September 2020 07:50 PM

In a 2018 WH meeting concerning military parades, Trump asked staff not to include wounded vets on the grounds spectators would feel uncomfortable in the presence of amputees, "Nobody wants to see that," he said.

When McCain died in 2018, Trump told his senior staff, according to three sources with direct knowledge of the event, "We're not going to support that that losers's funeral," and became furious according to witnesses when he saw flags lowered to half-staff. "What the **** are we doing that for? Guy was a ******* loser." the president told aides.

This according to the Atlantic article by Jeffrey Goldberg, and confirmed by the Washington Post and Fox News.

Or in other words Commander Bonespurs, you are a disrespectful, lying, cheating, sociopathic, clueless, vain piece of ****. And these are your good qualities.

SezMe 4th September 2020 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey (Post 13212783)
He'll still be president until the next one gets sworn in. A president can do a lot of things in almost three months. Pardons. Appointments. Firings. Executive orders. He could do a lot of damage if he were a nasty-minded maniac with a penchant for holding grudges.

Who wants to place bets on Trump being mature, dignified, and sane in the face of losing something he really, really wants and really, really feels he deserves?

No argument from me. I've stated here - maybe even in this thread - that the period from the election to the inauguration is liable to be one of the worst political **** storms ever seen. But I still believe that starting Nov. 4 the GOP will be distancing themselves from Trump in very notable ways. I also expect Fox to start rewriting history in cahoots with the GOP.

Ladewig 4th September 2020 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Trump
The Atlantic Magazine is dying, like most magazines, so they make up a fake story in order to gain some relevance. Story already refuted, but this is what we are up against. Just like the Fake Dossier. You fight and and fight, and then people realize it was a total fraud!
.

There is a profoundly simple way to determine the truth.

In Trump’s next press conference say “I want to give you an opportunity to silence your critics. They say you called the military members who died during war losers and suckers. Would you tell us how you really feel towards America’s soldiers, sailors, and marines who died defending Europe?”

Only a chucklehead or a sociopath could fumble a softball question like that.

Minoosh 4th September 2020 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward (Post 13212689)
Why? Based on what principle?

On the principle of sticking up for "fallen heroes" like his own son, and not enabling this piece of **** who presents a grave danger to national security.

Captain_Swoop 4th September 2020 09:18 PM

Trump Tweets

Thank you to our wonderful First Lady!
Quote Tweet

Melania Trump
@FLOTUS
US government account
.@TheAtlantic story is not true. It has become a very dangerous time when anonymous sources are believed above all else, & no one knows their motivation. This is not journalism - It is activism. And it is a disservice to the people of our great nation.

Captain_Swoop 4th September 2020 09:19 PM

Trump Retweeted

Sarah Huckabee Sanders
@SarahHuckabee
The Atlantic story on @realDonaldTrump is total BS. I was actually there and one of the people part of the discussion - this never happened. I have sat in the room when our President called family members after their sons were killed in action and it was heart-wrenching...

These were some of the moments I witnessed the President show his heart and demonstrate how much he respects the selfless and courageous men and women of our military. I am disgusted by this false attack.

Captain_Swoop 4th September 2020 09:21 PM

Trump Retweeted

J. Hogan Gidley
@JHoganGidley
Thanks to @realDonaldTrump's economic policies and leadership, America added 1.4 million jobs last month!

The United States has now recovered almost HALF (48%) of the jobs lost during the China virus shutdown.

President Trump re-built this economy once - he's doing it again!!!

Aridas 4th September 2020 09:22 PM

Well, while we can expect some new diversion from Trump's disdain for our troops, it's not like the previous problems went away.

Congresswoman blocked from touring mail facility by Postal Service police

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U.S. Postal Service police barred Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz from entering two mail sorting facilities in Florida in the early morning hours on Friday, threatening to escort her from the property if she didn't leave.

The Florida Democrat, who sits on the House Oversight Committee, said she aimed to inspect a mail plant in Opa-locka and Northwest Miami-Dade. Wasserman Schultz said union members told her about conditions at the processing centers and shared pictures that showed pallets of undelivered mail marked with a receipt date of "July 23."
While the Post Office claims excessively short notice as the reason - that really doesn't hold water, especially given context -

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As a member of the Oversight Committee, Wasserman Schultz said it is her job to inspect the Postal Service and its facilities. She said DeJoy has already "obstructed the committee" by not providing documents and data her committee has requested.

Sudden new requirements for "lengthy visitation protocols" that she did not have to follow when visiting facility earlier this year, she said, only served as further obstruction.

“There are no children, defense secrets or sick patients behind those doors," Wasserman Schultz said. "I’m perfectly capable of observing the work being done at a safe social distance, which I did without a lengthy delay or incident earlier this year. Denying Congress access to the facilities, is denying the vital public oversight of our mail system.”
That, and that the Post Office previously...

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Rep. Brenda Lawrence and Sen. Gary Peters, both Michigan Democrats, visited a similar facility in Michigan last month. An aide to Peters said Friday that local union leaders had told the two members of Congress that the plant had been intentionally cleared of delayed mail because of their impending arrival.


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