International Skeptics Forum

International Skeptics Forum (http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/forumindex.php)
-   USA Politics (http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=6)
-   -   Continuation The Trump Presidency: Part 25 (http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=346437)

Captain_Swoop 26th September 2020 10:38 AM

Trump Retweeted

Dan Scavino
@DanScavino
Seems like something the FBI Director could have cleared up years ago, instead of letting this BS drag on throughout President Trump’s entire first term. The O’Biden Administration literally tried to take Trump down. Always knew it, but now we FACTUALLY know it! Unbelievable!!

Captain_Swoop 26th September 2020 10:40 AM

Trump Tweets
Presidential Message on the National Day of Prayer and Return, 2020

On this inaugural National Day of Prayer and Return, the First Lady and I join millions of Christians here in the United States and around the world in prayer, as we turn our hearts to our Lord and Savior.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings...r-return-2020/

Resume 26th September 2020 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13237632)
Trump Tweets
Presidential Message on the National Day of Prayer and Return, 2020

On this inaugural National Day of Prayer and Return, the First Lady and I join millions of Christians here in the United States and around the world in prayer, as we turn our hearts to our Lord and Savior.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings...r-return-2020/

Bwahahhahhahhahhahhah!

Steve 26th September 2020 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13237632)
Trump Tweets
Presidential Message on the National Day of Prayer and Return, 2020

On this inaugural National Day of Prayer and Return, the First Lady and I join millions of Christians here in the United States and around the world in prayer, as we turn our hearts to our Lord and Savior.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings...r-return-2020/

Quote:

Originally Posted by Resume (Post 13237648)
Bwahahhahhahhahhahhah!

Trump did not write that.

Resume 26th September 2020 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve (Post 13237659)
Trump did not write that.

Nor does he believe it.

Darat 26th September 2020 11:15 AM

He seems to also think other countries share the USA's national day!

Stacyhs 26th September 2020 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob001 (Post 13237492)

That was brilliant.

Stacyhs 26th September 2020 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13237632)
Trump Tweets
Presidential Message on the National Day of Prayer and Return, 2020

On this inaugural National Day of Prayer and Return, the First Lady and I join millions of Christians here in the United States and around the world in prayer, as we turn our hearts to our Lord and Savior.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings...r-return-2020/

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve (Post 13237659)
Trump did not write that.

Of course not; his phone would have burst into flames.

Lennart Hyland 26th September 2020 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Resume (Post 13237664)
Nor does he believe it.

Well thats a good thing atleast...

Skeptic Ginger 26th September 2020 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13237628)
Trump Retweeted

Dan Scavino
@DanScavino
Seems like something the FBI Director could have cleared up years ago, instead of letting this BS drag on throughout President Trump’s entire first term. The O’Biden Administration literally tried to take Trump down. Always knew it, but now we FACTUALLY know it! Unbelievable!!

The fact Trump just couldn't get that done in several years couldn't possibly mean there was nothing to it, like 'her emails'. :rolleyes:

Oh I forgot, Biden/Obama/Clinton were POTUS these last few years. Just wait until Trump is actually in charge!

Skeptic Ginger 26th September 2020 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13237632)
Trump Tweets
Presidential Message on the National Day of Prayer and Return, 2020

On this inaugural National Day of Prayer and Return, the First Lady and I join millions of Christians here in the United States and around the world in prayer, as we turn our hearts to our Lord and Savior.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings...r-return-2020/

:eusa_sick:

Prayer and Return? Is that when Jesus rose up from the dead or are they officially praying for The Return? :confused:

Skeptic Ginger 26th September 2020 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Resume (Post 13237664)
Nor does he believe it.

Nor are they going to pray. :rolleyes:

alfaniner 26th September 2020 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13237668)
He seems to also think other countries share the USA's national day!

And all religions.

The Man 26th September 2020 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13236896)
Trump Tweets

I was honored to be back in Georgia with a truly incredible organization—BLACK VOICES FOR TRUMP, where I announced a brand new plan to deliver more opportunity, more security, more fairness, and more prosperity to black communities. #ThePlatinumPlan

*

Only $999.99 per month!


*Hilite added

The Man 26th September 2020 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 13237114)
I'm going with More Lies for $500, Alec.

Not a lie, your car insurance is (at least) liability insurance. As would be certain portions of homeowners' insurance.

Minoosh 26th September 2020 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13237172)
Trump in Virginia

...

"What would our popularity be if every day for almost four years, you didn't hear any of this ********? ( The media) With all we've done, I think they'd be very nice, the Democrats would say, 'yes, if you'd like, we could cancel the election.'"

This is actually a very interesting question and speaks to a paradox about covering Trump. Which is worse, ignoring his lies or engaging with them? And I think the answer has to be to rebut them, but then there's this vicious cycle of him telling one outrageous lie after another to keep his detractors at maximum outrage so that he can paint himself as a victim.

Early on I thought there was a middle course: Correct his facts. But don't write an analysis piece every time he yanks your chain. Early on I got tired of CNN telling me why I should be outraged. And I wonder if some of this editorializing made it easier for him to maintain perpetual martyrdom. I wonder if this had been approached differently if his BS was met with a calm, neutral fact check, without the constant drumbeat of opinion pieces saying this time he's gone too far!!!

I'm not sure more people wouldn't have gradually twigged to the fact that he was lying to them with utter contempt. In teaching, sometimes it's better to let students figure out for themselves that something's not right. "Show don't tell" goes one old saw. I think CNN may have inadvertently rallied people around Trump with a bit too much editorializing in news stories and too many "This is why he's gone too far this time" essays that were essentially porn for people like me, who were hoping he would disappear like a miracle any day now if only the spotlight was shined on him relentlessly enough. I still think CNN is far more reliable than Fox News, but both are businesses that frequently pander to their audiences.

But clearly, this is highly speculative and I might be 100 percent wrong. Still. I wonder about the road not taken. I wonder if his less-gullible supporters might have come to realize on their own what an empty suit Trump really is.

Gulliver Foyle 26th September 2020 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by varwoche (Post 13236602)
Bernie Brothers, but I'd be remiss not to give Susan Sarondon a shout out

Why are you singling them out. Over 90% of Bernie supporters voted Hilary Clinton in the election, a good 20% higher than Clinton voters who supported Obama in 2008.

There are four reasons Hilary Clinton lost, in descending order:

1) The republican party disenfranchising c. ten million US citizens.
2) James Comey and the "butheremails!" October surprise he ran on behalf of his party colleague Trump.
3) Russia's various meddling.
4) Hilary Clinton running a very bad and lacklustre campaign, and realising too late that she needed to be more than not-Trump.

And the weightings I'd give all those would be 70-20-7-3. The simple fact of the matter, Trump probably had the election won before he even started consorting with an enemy belligerent.

Trebuchet 26th September 2020 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gulliver Foyle (Post 13237847)
Why are you singling them out. Over 90% of Bernie supporters voted Hilary Clinton in the election, a good 20% higher than Clinton voters who supported Obama in 2008.

There are four reasons Hilary Clinton lost, in descending order:

1) The republican party disenfranchising c. ten million US citizens.
2) James Comey and the "butheremails!" October surprise he ran on behalf of his party colleague Trump.
3) Russia's various meddling.
4) Hilary Clinton running a very bad and lacklustre campaign, and realising too late that she needed to be more than not-Trump.

And the weightings I'd give all those would be 70-20-7-3. The simple fact of the matter, Trump probably had the election won before he even started consorting with an enemy belligerent.

5) Her personality, or lack thereof. Maybe should be higher than that.

Gulliver Foyle 26th September 2020 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lurch (Post 13237212)
The particular form of American Capitalism is inimical to a healthy society, in that its inevitable end result is an ever increasing wealth divide. This kind of Capitalism really is a coddling, socialistic favoritism for the wealthy, and a rough, hardscrabble fighting for scraps for the rest. In order to keep the disenfranchised from rising up against the rapacious few, a political system has been devised where the poor are given lessers to kick down upon, enemies to hate as the cause of their ills.

It's the only kind of capitalism that there is. Once you start putting constraints on the owners of capital, then the economic system no longer is caplitalist.

Gulliver Foyle 26th September 2020 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Resume (Post 13237664)
Nor does he believe it.

I'll let you in on a little secret, most christian leaders don't believe. They're just in it for the spondoolicks.

Minoosh 26th September 2020 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13237632)
Trump Tweets
...
On this inaugural National Day of Prayer and Return, the First Lady and I join millions of Christians here in the United States and around the world in prayer, as we turn our hearts to our Lord and Savior.

IMO Christians worth their salt do not need to "turn" their hearts to Christ - Christ already lives there.

Anytime I hear about days of prayer I'm thinking, aren't you guys supposed to be praying every day already? And not be making any loud-ass announcements about it either, per a rather well-known sermon on a mountain?

Well, Christian theology is a mystery to me anyway. The Lord turns water into wine, but the Baptists aren't allowed to drink it.

Gulliver Foyle 26th September 2020 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 13237852)
5) Her personality, or lack thereof. Maybe should be higher than that.

No I honestly think her faults were a very minor part of the "loss". In an otherwise fair fight, she'd have wiped the floor with Trump.

Now if she were up against a competent politician who knew how to speak, that'd have been a different story. I think Hilary Clinton would have been in trouble in a fair election against Jeb Shrub.

Roger Ramjets 26th September 2020 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gulliver Foyle (Post 13237847)
There are four reasons Hilary Clinton lost, in descending order:

1) The republican party disenfranchising c. ten million US citizens.
2) James Comey and the "butheremails!" October surprise he ran on behalf of his party colleague Trump.
3) Russia's various meddling.
4) Hilary Clinton running a very bad and lacklustre campaign, and realising too late that she needed to be more than not-Trump.

You missed the most important one - 62,984,828 Deplorables. They knew what Trump was, but voted for him anyway.

But yes, Hillary was a terrible candidate. We know this because the Deplorables kept telling us so. Would they lie to us? Of course not. And it's not like it was out of the blue. They've been trying to tell us for decades how bad Hillary is! So we took it on board and said "Hillary is a terrible candidate, but she's not Trump so I guess I will have to vote for her" (except for those of us who didn't).

Let's count the ways Hillary was so terrible, and what she should have done to be more than not-Trump:-

1. Being a woman. Hillary should have taken testosterone and gotten a sex change.

2. Cozying up to elites instead of listening to common folk. She should have avoided anyone with power and influence, and lived under a bridge with homeless people.

3. Not being progressive. She should have offered real change, like Obama!

4. Being part of the 'Establishment'. Hillary should have remained independent from the Democratic party all those years. When challenged she could have said 'of course I am a Democrat' but continue running as an independent.

There are many more things she could have done of course, such as conceding to Bernie in the primaries even though she won, or simply giving up politics to let men run things, but sadly she chose her own aspirations over what was best for the country. What made her think she was better suited to the job than a failed businessman, grifter and reality TV star?

Quote:

And the weightings I'd give all those would be 70-20-7-3.
I agree with those weightings. But even though her lackluster campaign was only a small part of it, in the end she was totally to blame for the loss. If only she had whipped up a bit more enthusiasm we could have won! Many of us loyal democrats worked very hard to get people on our side, only to be let down by that 3% (especially those of us who didn't bother voting because she had an 'unassailable' 3% lead in the polls).

Ladewig 26th September 2020 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13237632)
Trump Tweets
Presidential Message on the National Day of Prayer and Return, 2020

On this inaugural National Day of Prayer and Return, the First Lady and I join millions of Christians here in the United States and around the world in prayer, as we turn our hearts to our Lord and Savior.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings...r-return-2020/

Wait. Wait.

The National Day of Prayer is in May.

What the ****** is “the inaugural National Day of Prayer and Return.”?

I can’t find anything about it other that the White House made a proclamation. The press release doesn’t even say what it is.


ETA
Ok, I found it. I didn’t see it earlier because the WH ****** up the name.

It is the National and Global [sic] Day of Prayer and Repentance created by a group call the Return 2020.

Quote:

Have you heard about The Return 2020 yet?! The Return is a global day of prayer and repentance that’s taking place on the National Mall in Washington D.C. on Saturday, September 26! We’re inviting you to watch and participate with us as we pray for America to return to God.
https://blackchristiannews.com/2020/...-sept-26-2020/

Bob001 26th September 2020 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger Ramjets (Post 13237948)
.....
1. Being a woman. Hillary should have taken testosterone and gotten a sex change.
.....

"You're just pickin' on me 'cause I'm a girl" has been Clinton's go-to excuse for most of her life. But the fact is that she won three million more votes than her opponent in 2016, and Jill Stein won a million and a half votes herself, most of which would have gone to Clinton in a two-way race. Americans were and are perfectly willing to elect a woman as President. Gee, if only Hillary hadn't been so sure of victory that 79,000 people in three states who would have voted for her just stayed home....

Skeptic Ginger 26th September 2020 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Man (Post 13237821)
Not a lie, your car insurance is (at least) liability insurance. As would be certain portions of homeowners' insurance.

Yeah, I too have malpractice insurance. But legislators wrote laws excluding themselves from personal liability. That includes police and in may cases, attorneys.

So it is a lie.

Ladewig 26th September 2020 07:36 PM

Yesterday’s poll of Fox News viewers:

- 55% said the president clearly won the first debate
- 45% said the debates have not yet happened.

Skeptic Ginger 26th September 2020 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ladewig (Post 13238063)
Yesterday’s poll of Fox News viewers:

- 55% said the president clearly won the first debate
- 45% said the debates have not yet happened.

:dl:

SezMe 26th September 2020 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ladewig (Post 13237955)

It is the National and Global [sic] Day of Prayer and Repentance created by a group call the Return 2020.


https://blackchristiannews.com/2020/...-sept-26-2020/

Last sentence from that web site:

Quote:

We’re inviting you to watch and participate with us as we pray for America to return to God.
When did we leave?

SezMe 26th September 2020 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob001 (Post 13237978)
"You're just pickin' on me 'cause I'm a girl" has been Clinton's go-to excuse for most of her life.

Oh, Bell ****. Cite some examples.

Skeptic Ginger 26th September 2020 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob001 (Post 13237978)
"You're just pickin' on me 'cause I'm a girl" has been Clinton's go-to excuse for most of her life. But the fact is that she won three million more votes than her opponent in 2016, and Jill Stein won a million and a half votes herself, most of which would have gone to Clinton in a two-way race. Americans were and are perfectly willing to elect a woman as President. Gee, if only Hillary hadn't been so sure of victory that 79,000 people in three states who would have voted for her just stayed home....

What a steaming pile of ****. How is it you know so little about Clinton? This post is pitiful.

And no one on this forum that I can see said a woman couldn't get elected.

Stacyhs 27th September 2020 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob001 (Post 13237978)
"You're just pickin' on me 'cause I'm a girl" has been Clinton's go-to excuse for most of her life. But the fact is that she won three million more votes than her opponent in 2016, and Jill Stein won a million and a half votes herself, most of which would have gone to Clinton in a two-way race. Americans were and are perfectly willing to elect a woman as President. Gee, if only Hillary hadn't been so sure of victory that 79,000 people in three states who would have voted for her just stayed home....

Nonsense. I actually heard people say they wouldn't vote for her because she was a woman.

The Don 27th September 2020 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SezMe (Post 13238077)
Last sentence from that web site:


When did we leave?

When mixed marriages were allowed, when women got the right to vote, when civil rights laws were enacted, when people started forming their own views instead of taking them from their pastor - take your pick :mad:

Captain_Swoop 27th September 2020 03:26 AM

Trump Retweeted

“Well, we won Pennsylvania last time and we’re going to win it by a lot more this time.” -@realDonaldTrump

“Judge Barrett is a brilliant legal mind … Most important of all, she will defend your God-given rights and freedoms.” -@realDonaldTrump

I’ve just come from the Rose Garden of the White House where I proudly nominated Judge Amy Coney Barrett to the United States Supreme -@realDonaldTrump

“I’ll keep your jobs in Pennsylvania where they belong!” -@realDonaldTrump

Patrick Yoes, President of the National Fraternal Order of Police to @realDonaldTrump:
“You sir, have never turned your back on America’s law enforcement… On behalf of America’s largest law enforcement organization… we give you our unanimous & enthusiastic endorsement.”

Captain_Swoop 27th September 2020 03:27 AM

Trump Retweeted
Ronna McDaniel
@GOPChairwoman
Judge Amy Coney Barrett is a remarkable nominee, and the Senate should confirm her without delay.

The RNC is investing $10M to promote her qualifications, expose Democrats’ partisanship, and use this issue to galvanize voters to the polls in November!

Captain_Swoop 27th September 2020 03:28 AM

Trump Tweets

For years you had a President who apologized for America - now you have a President who is standing up for America, and standing up for Pennsylvania. So get your friends, get your family, get your neighbors & co-workers, and GET OUT & VOTE! Early voting has already begun — VOTE!

Together, we are taking back our Country. We are returning power to YOU, the American People. With your help, your devotion, & your drive, we are going to keep on working, we are going to keep on fighting, & we are going to keep ON WINNING! Get out & VOTE! http://Vote.DonaldJTrump.com

In just 3 and a half years, we have secured America’s Borders, rebuilt the awesome power of the U.S. Military, obliterated the ISIS caliphate, fixed our disastrous Trade Deals, and brought JOBS back home to America – and back to PENNSYLVANIA! #MAGA

Tero 27th September 2020 04:45 AM

When Trump loses and then fights recounts for months, what is the agency that eventually walks him out and flies him to Florida?
Nixon leaves, mostly silent footage:
https://youtu.be/58H431UuNvs

RolandRat 27th September 2020 04:49 AM

Trump complains the media didn't report his Nobel Peace Prizes:

"On Saturday, Trump grumbled that there wasn’t a word in the “fake news” about his Nobel recognition.

“Somebody had a show where they said the amount of time devoted to Donald Trump’s Nobel Peace Prize — two of ’em — [was] zero on the networks, zero,” he emphasized. ”It is so disgraceful. They’re so bad.”

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...?ocid=msedgdhp

Armitage72 27th September 2020 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13238240)
Trump Retweeted

Patrick Yoes, President of the National Fraternal Order of Police to @realDonaldTrump:
“You sir, have never turned your back on America’s law enforcement… On behalf of America’s largest law enforcement organization… we give you our unanimous & enthusiastic endorsement.”


I mentioned this the last time that there was a similar claim. I was part of a union when I worked for New York State. The union leaders told the members which candidates the union was endorsing. The members had no say in the matter.

phiwum 27th September 2020 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ladewig (Post 13238063)
Yesterday’s poll of Fox News viewers:

- 55% said the president clearly won the first debate
- 45% said the debates have not yet happened.

Is this a joke or is there a cite?


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:14 AM.

Powered by vBulletin. Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© 2015-20, TribeTech AB. All Rights Reserved.