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Aridas 2nd September 2020 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lurch (Post 13209195)
As I've pointed out once already, I'm getting a really strong late '20s German vibe here.

You're not the only one.

We Don’t Know How to Warn You Any Harder. America is Dying.
We Survivors of Authoritarianism Have a Message America Needs to Hear: This is Exactly How it Happens, and It’s Happening Here.

Safe-Keeper 2nd September 2020 11:24 AM

The Germans (and others from countries with experience for authoritarians) have been trying to tell Americans this for four years.

autumn1971 2nd September 2020 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Aridas (Post 13209079)
We have always been at war with Eurasia. Duh.





Honestly, to me, it sounds more like he's hinting at the Illuminati for his many, many conspiracy theorist followers.

To poke elsewhere,

Oath Keepers to Trump: Send out the militias to stop antifascists' 'Marxist takeover' of America



And may those radicalized, attempting to instigate violence **** go to jail immediately before they go on murder sprees. Seriously, overwhelmingly, it's been the right-wingers murdering people and cops, but when one of their own dies while causing trouble, it's time for a revolution! Yeah, I'm calling that what it is. A convenient excuse.

It’s America. In the sixties the police realized that if one simply beats peaceful protesters eventually one of them will raise an arm in self-defense.
At that point the police would simply beat the **** out of all of them.
Because “resisting arrest.”

It’s called a “police riot” for a reason.

JoeMorgue 2nd September 2020 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper (Post 13209612)
The Germans (and others from countries with experience for authoritarians) have been trying to tell Americans this for four years.

Yeah but a bunch of nihilistic trolls on the internet who have gotten their first erection since Reagan because of how triggered the libs have gotten are telling me they're just being dramatic, so I don't know who to believe.

Elagabalus 2nd September 2020 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13209240)
Trump Tweets

Joe Biden is a Low Energy Candidate the likes of which we have never seen before. The last thing our country needs is a Low Energy Individulal, especially when surrounded by High Energy Chess Players scattered all over the world. He’s back in his basement now - no schedule!

I don't know, Bob Dole, John Kerry, George Bush the Elder, Al Gore - they were all pretty "low energy".

Minoosh 2nd September 2020 01:02 PM

I am not unsympathetic to that guy's message, but he essentially repeats the same paragraph over and over. We (or our parents) experienced the takeover of authoritarianism; only we can recognize it; we can't warn you any harder. There's no information on how to fight it. Simply despair.

Shortly after the 2016 election one forum member (or maybe more than one) posted that he was going to stop posting; there was too much work to be done IRL. I wonder how that worked out.

Stacyhs 2nd September 2020 01:05 PM

This is surprising: the latest CNN poll has Biden's highest support is among seniors 65+ at 57%. Senior traditionally vote more conservative. His second highest is among those younger than 35.

Minoosh 2nd September 2020 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13209784)
This is surprising: the latest CNN poll has Biden's highest support is among seniors 65+ at 57%. Senior traditionally vote more conservative. His second highest is among those younger than 35.

I find it encouraging that so many old people react poorly to being told they're expendable. I know that seems like a no-brainer, but since broad-based Trump support in general sort of mystifies me, I thought more seniors might agree that their lives really aren't worth protecting.

I know people supposedly get more conservative as they age, but that's the thing about Trump - IMO he is not conservative. Biden is the more conservative choice.

Safe-Keeper 2nd September 2020 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by autumn1971 (Post 13209669)
At that point the police would simply beat the **** out of all of them.

Or start shooting.
If or when this happens during 2020 or 2021, I imagine the country will be equally split, probably along party lines, about whether it's justifiable for national guardsmen to open fire at a peaceful assembly of college students.

Segnosaur 2nd September 2020 02:07 PM

Stay classy Trump....

Business Insider
President Donald Trump told Sarah Huckabee Sanders, a former White House press secretary, to go to North Korea and take one "for the team" after Kim Jong Un appeared to wink at her during a summit in 2018..."Kim Jong Un hit on you!" Trump said...
Sanders replied, "Sir, please stop."..."Well, Sarah, that settles it. You're going to North Korea and taking one for the team!" Trump told her...Trump and Kelly then "howled with laughter," Sanders said.


Nice to see Trump treating the women-folk of his administration so well.

Is it a believable story? Well, its coming from Sanders, who did leave the Trump administration, but unlike others (such as The Mooch and Cohen) I think she still remains on good terms, so its less likely she would have made something up.

pgwenthold 2nd September 2020 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Segnosaur (Post 13209850)
Stay classy Trump....

Business Insider
President Donald Trump told Sarah Huckabee Sanders, a former White House press secretary, to go to North Korea and take one "for the team" after Kim Jong Un appeared to wink at her during a summit in 2018..."Kim Jong Un hit on you!" Trump said...
Sanders replied, "Sir, please stop."..."Well, Sarah, that settles it. You're going to North Korea and taking one for the team!" Trump told her...Trump and Kelly then "howled with laughter," Sanders said.


Nice to see Trump treating the women-folk of his administration so well.

Is it a believable story? Well, its coming from Sanders, who did leave the Trump administration, but unlike others (such as The Mooch and Cohen) I think she still remains on good terms, so its less likely she would have made something up.

Most important aspect is that she tried to get him to stop and he wouldn't.

Add Sarah to the #metoo movement

Babbylonian 2nd September 2020 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Minoosh (Post 13209803)
I find it encouraging that so many old people react poorly to being told they're expendable. I know that seems like a no-brainer, but since broad-based Trump support in general sort of mystifies me, I thought more seniors might agree that their lives really aren't worth protecting.

I know people supposedly get more conservative as they age, but that's the thing about Trump - IMO he is not conservative. Biden is the more conservative choice.

It apparently hasn't escaped their notice that COVID-19 has been destroying senior care facilities.

Trebuchet 2nd September 2020 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13209784)
This is surprising: the latest CNN poll has Biden's highest support is among seniors 65+ at 57%. Senior traditionally vote more conservative. His second highest is among those younger than 35.

I would remind you that we seniors are the hippies and Viet Nam war protesters of the 1960's.

And Trump is no conservative.

Captain_Swoop 2nd September 2020 02:38 PM

Trump Tweets

Some things just don’t get any crazier. Just call me Kate, problem over!
Quote Tweet

TheBlaze
Oregon sheriffs unload on Dem Gov. Kate Brown for trying to use their deputies to quell Portland violence https://bit.ly/2DiQS7h

Captain_Swoop 2nd September 2020 02:39 PM

Trump tweets

Mayor Wheeler just got harassed out of his own home in Portland by so-called “friendly protesters”. The Anarchists, Agitators and Looters treat him HORRIBLY, even though he is so nice and respectful to them. Criminals only understand strength!

The Dow Jones Industrial just closed above 29,000! You are so lucky to have me as your President With Joe Hiden’ it would crash

Armitage72 2nd September 2020 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13209326)
Trump Tweets

We had FAR more people (many millions) watching us at the RNC than did Sleepy Joe and the DNC, and yet an ad just ran saying the opposite. This is what we’re up against. Lies. But we will WIN!


I case people were curious exactly what ad he's referencing.

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the ISF. The ISF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.
I AGREE


They're reaching their target audience. Him.

Captain_Swoop 2nd September 2020 02:43 PM

Trump Tweets

Can you believe what’s happening!? They give Joe Hiden’ the questions, and he reads them an answer!

‘Topline Message': Trump Campaign Accuses Joe Biden of Reading Script Notes Aloud
Former Vice President Joe Biden is facing scrutiny for an odd interview moment, with the Trump campaign accusing him of reading a line that was only meant as an instructional note.
breitbart.com

Safe-Keeper 2nd September 2020 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armitage72 (Post 13209881)
I case people were curious exactly what ad he's referencing.

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the ISF. The ISF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.
I AGREE


They're reaching their target audience. Him.

I hope they do a follow-up ad on how they got to Trump :D .

Mojo 2nd September 2020 02:46 PM

Quote:

Trump Tweets

Some things just don’t get any crazier. Just call me Kate, problem over!

OK, Kate.

Stacyhs 2nd September 2020 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 13209870)
I would remind you that we seniors are the hippies and Viet Nam war protesters of the 1960's.

And Trump is no conservative.

No need to remind me as I'm in that 65+ group myself. Damn it.

alfaniner 2nd September 2020 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojo (Post 13209893)
OK, Kate.

Problem over! :p

Stacyhs 2nd September 2020 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13209879)
Trump tweets

Mayor Wheeler just got harassed out of his own home in Portland by so-called “friendly protesters”. The Anarchists, Agitators and Looters treat him HORRIBLY, even though he is so nice and respectful to them. Criminals only understand strength!

The Dow Jones Industrial just closed above 29,000! You are so lucky to have me as your President With Joe Hiden’ it would crash

Notice he doesn't mention the 10% unemployment rate?

Stacyhs 2nd September 2020 03:24 PM

Quote:

Quote:
Trump Tweets

Some things just don’t get any crazier. Just call me Kate, problem over!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojo (Post 13209893)
OK, Kate.

Now he has a new problem: which bathroom will he use?

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...01b88711a9.png

SezMe 2nd September 2020 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CapelDodger (Post 13208857)
Biden's facing-off with Trump at the national level : Senate seats are a State-level subject. It's up to the State Democratic Party to point up the connection.

I know it is a state-level position. However, the Dems should be trying to "nationalize" every race down to the dog catcher to make it a referendum on Trump. That has to start with Biden.

SezMe 2nd September 2020 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13208865)
Understood. But I suspect even they are seeing that being the only rats staying on this rapidly sinking ship captained by a cross-eyed lunatic criminal is perhaps not the best career-advancing option after all.

Oh, I think quite a few congresscritters see Trump for the Albatross he is. But it's too late - the Trump train has left the station and the next stop isn't until Nov. 4.

Elagabalus 2nd September 2020 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13209928)
Now he has a new problem: which bathroom will he use?

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...01b88711a9.png

You need two other signs, one with a camera and the other with a TV!

SezMe 2nd September 2020 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13209105)
More on Kurt Schlichter:

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Schlichter has been curdling and festering into a base sludge of aggrievement at forgotten right-wing websites for years. After a brief stint at Breitbart, in 2012 he began writing thrice-weekly columns at TownHall, a site that parades endless op-eds by conservative also-rans that are on par with your average cranky letter-to-the-editor. His columns have titles like “Liberals’ Hatred Will Inevitably Turn Into Violence,” “It Is the Sacred Duty of All Conservatives to Own the Libs,” and “Buy Ammo.” Schlicter’s pieces are incoherent, barely topical screeds about pronoun-obsessed pinko commie elites who sip “Chardonnay and Zimas” and have a visceral hatred for real Americans like him, whom he calls “Normal Americans.”
https://theoutline.com/post/8100/kur...=1&zi=tmmuexbu

Reading the comments to his posts is like watching the worst horror movie. The Townhall commentariat is boatload of cultists who seem to buy every conspiracy that comes down the pike.

Minoosh 2nd September 2020 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SezMe (Post 13209986)
Oh, I think quite a few congresscritters see Trump for the Albatross he is. But it's too late - the Trump train has left the station and the next stop isn't until Nov. 4.

Nov. 3

Stacyhs 2nd September 2020 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SezMe (Post 13210001)
Reading the comments to his posts is like watching the worst horror movie. The Townhall commentariat is boatload of cultists who seem to buy every conspiracy that comes down the pike.

Buy stock in tin foil. They're all making lots of hats.

Regnad Kcin 2nd September 2020 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojo (Post 13209174)
Trump blames racism in policing on 'bad apples' during visit to Kenosha

He obviously doesn’t know that a few bad apples spoil the whole barrel.

One bad apple don't spoil
The whole bunch, girl
Give it one more time
Before you give up on love

alfaniner 2nd September 2020 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13209878)
Trump Tweets

Some things just don’t get any crazier. Just call me Kate, problem over!
Quote Tweet

TheBlaze
Oregon sheriffs unload on Dem Gov. Kate Brown for trying to use their deputies to quell Portland violence https://bit.ly/2DiQS7h

I can't find that Tweet -- it may have been deleted.

I for one would like to see "Kate" take over for "Karen".

Skeptic Ginger 2nd September 2020 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13209919)
Notice he doesn't mention the 10% unemployment rate?

Biden needs to spend time talking about unemployment and people who can't pay the rent, whose businesses are being lost, and maybe the Lincoln project can throw in a bit about how Mnuchin made his money with a voice asking, are they planning to sweep up all these bankrupt buildings again?

The Great Zaganza 2nd September 2020 08:52 PM

Employment will bounce back, and Trump can finagle the numbers to make it look better than it is till November.
At this stage, unemployment is not a winning topic for Biden.

Stacyhs 2nd September 2020 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13210201)
Employment will bounce back, and Trump can finagle the numbers to make it look better than it is till November.
At this stage, unemployment is not a winning topic for Biden.

I totally disagree. Trump's greatest strength was the economy even though he was riding on the coattails of the Obama/ Biden economy. When he came in, unemployment was 3.6%. It's now at about 10%. Employment is not going to "bounce back" anytime soon despite the rosy outlook you seem to embrace until the pandemic is under control.

The Don 2nd September 2020 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13210252)
I totally disagree. Trump's greatest strength was the economy even though he was riding on the coattails of the Obama/ Biden economy. When he came in, unemployment was 3.6%. It's now at about 10%. Employment is not going to "bounce back" anytime soon despite the rosy outlook you seem to embrace until the pandemic is under control.

I disagree. I think that President Trump will be able to sell the "millions of jobs created" message to enough people to make a difference.

Any job losses were down to the "China Virus", Democrats, NAFTA and so on.

Any new jobs are down to President Trump.

Silly Green Monkey 2nd September 2020 10:42 PM

And right now, not only is the pandemic not under control, the very medical authority supposed to be trying to do so has joined the groups actively fighting any measures that could control it, as though the US was the only country in the world.

Aridas 2nd September 2020 11:09 PM

Time to poke at things!

First things first - Trump encourages North Carolina residents to vote twice to test mail-in system. Yes, you read that right. Trump just exhorted a huge number of people to commit a felony. Criminal incitement?

Elsewhere, Georgia voting suppression news time! And let me state that am quite unhappy that new development just keep happening on this front.

Quote:

We found 198,351 Georgia voters who supposedly moved from their registration addresses who, in fact, have not moved at all, and therefore were wrongly purged, a 63.3% error rate. Again, this is not a "sampling" of the list, but a detailed name-by-name review of the addresses of the citizens that the Secretary of State eliminated from the state’s voter rolls.The conclusion is conservative, because the 63.3% error rate does not including the of tens of thousands of other citizens who have moved within their neighborhood, some within their buildings. (The National Voter Registration Act prohibits cancelling the registration of those who move within their voting jurisdiction.)

<snip>

For reasons explained herein, the cancellations concentrate among younger citizens and citizens of color.
*sigh*

Moving on... Leaked document warns of 'serious errors' in census data under fast-tracked timeline
The document is the latest indication of the issues plaguing the Census Bureau as it seeks to fulfill its constitutional mandate to count all persons living in the U.S.


Yep, the educated warnings of problems do seem to be coming true.

Next - a poll, just because.

YouGov - Do you think the violence happening at protests will get better, get worse or will it stay the same if Donald Trump is reelected President in 2020?

18% say better (46% of Republicans say better)
15% say no change
56% say worse
11% say don't know

Dishonest Don's ploy seems to be not working so well.

Stacyhs 2nd September 2020 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13210257)
I disagree. I think that President Trump will be able to sell the "millions of jobs created" message to enough people to make a difference.

Any job losses were down to the "China Virus", Democrats, NAFTA and so on.

Any new jobs are down to President Trump.

But they're not "new" new jobs at all; they're just old jobs being refilled. A simple display of unemployment numbers will show that. Any fool should understand that.

RolandRat 2nd September 2020 11:20 PM

Trump threatens to cut aid to cities:

"Wednesday's memo instructs the US attorney general William Barr to compile a list of "anarchist jurisdictions" that "permitted violence and the destruction of property to persist and have refused to undertake reasonable measures".

Mr Trump has also asked the White House budget director Russell Vought to issue guidance within 30 days "to the heads of agencies on restricting eligibility of or otherwise disfavouring, to the maximum extent permitted by law, anarchist jurisdictions in the receipt of federal grants."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-g...-idUSKBN25U003

The Don 2nd September 2020 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13210286)
But they're not "new" new jobs at all; they're just old jobs being refilled. A simple display of unemployment numbers will show that. Any fool should understand that.

You know that, I know that, but I'm pretty sure that there may be enough people who don't for it to make a difference. :(

President Trump can just keep pushing the "Millions of jobs created and Sleepy Joe Hidin' Biden will destroy them again" and the right wing media will broadcast it incessantly. In swing states, this may be enough for low information voters - who are in any case more likely to vote for President Trump.


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