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Dr. Keith 22nd March 2022 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13763494)
Nobody cares about Hunter Biden's laptop accept for people living so far in a pro-Trump delusion they can't be saved.

Pick a level, it's all crazy.

It’s magical thinking. If you prove one element of an elaborate CT then the whole thing must be true. You do know that the pizza lace where Hillary eats the babies actually exists, that’s how you know it happened.

Bogative 22nd March 2022 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13763494)
Nobody cares about Hunter Biden's laptop accept for…

the FBI who is using it to investigate Hunter Biden's business dealings and tax evasion. Other than that, nobody really.

JoeMorgue 22nd March 2022 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13763548)
the FBI who is using it to investigate Hunter Biden's business dealings and tax evasion. Other than that, nobody really.

The FBI investigates a lot of **** that everyone knows is nonsense.

plague311 22nd March 2022 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith (Post 13763537)
Copyright covers more than just artists.

Absolutely. My point being that if he were to contest anything it would be his art. Not the rest of the stuff found on the laptop.

plague311 22nd March 2022 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by lomiller (Post 13763526)
That's not quite how it works. A copyright agreement is a contract. If you haven't agreed to it you don't get to use the software. If you have than you need to obey the terms.

When software is tied to a pc it means it can't be used on any other machine ever. Even if it's the right machine and you own it you need proof you own a license to sell it or even use it.

Ok, if I just admit to being an unethical douche, can we move on from it? Is that fine or should I turn myself into the authorities today after work for using a licensed, but not to me, version of some programs on abandoned PCs? I seriously will if it moves this along.

JoeMorgue 22nd March 2022 10:51 AM

Nope... nope not doing it. Not going back down the "Hunter Biden Laptop" rabbit hole, lest of all with someone with that avatar.

It's nonsense. You know it's nonsense. You just don't care that it's nonsense.

tyr_13 22nd March 2022 11:00 AM

Wait, is being investigated for tax dodging a bad thing now? I have some terrible news for Trump supporters...

Ziggurat 22nd March 2022 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by lomiller (Post 13763526)
That's not quite how it works. A copyright agreement is a contract. If you haven't agreed to it you don't get to use the software. If you have than you need to obey the terms.

What the hell are you even talking about? Copyright is DIFFERENT than software licensing. A software license is a contract. Copyright is not a contract. The primary contracts about copyrights would be between the author and the publisher.

Ziggurat 22nd March 2022 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith (Post 13763535)
He won’t. But that does not mean that the shop had a right to his data. Many violations of rights go unpunished for practical reasons.

Asserting copyright would be a dubious proposition in any case. Many of the pictures are pictures OF him, not BY him, so he doesn't have the copyright to those. Plus, fair use applies to much of this.

From a slightly less legal perspective, what even is the point of copyright? It wasn't designed to protect privacy. It was designed to encourage the development of creative works by protecting people's commercial interests in that creation. But there's no commercial interest involved here. While that's not a legal requirement for copyright, it is relevant to the question of morality. Violating this sort of copyright is malum in prohibitum, not malum in se.

Ziggurat 22nd March 2022 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by plague311 (Post 13763635)
You never showered with your parents when you were a young child?

Nope.

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I'm not saying a teenager and their parents should be showering together, but it's really common to hear of kids up until the age of 3-4 to shower with their parents up here.

Is that odd other places?
Seems weird to me.

Stacyhs 22nd March 2022 01:50 PM

How ironic that the man who put his children first his entire life is now being basically accused of being a 'pedo' and molesting his own daughter by the same people who support a man who virtually ignored his own children until they were old enough to be of use to him. A man who has had over 20 women accuse him of everything from rape to forced kissing and who brags about grabbing women's genitals.

Biden commuted by train 220 miles RT almost every day he was a senator so he could be home with his sons while they were growing up. Trump? If his three eldest wanted to see him before going to school, they had to go to his office according to Ivana. Trump's first wife also claims she brought the three children up 'singlehandedly' until they went to college. He never changed a diaper (Trump said that was a 'wife's job'), saw Tiffany maybe twice a year, and Donnie Jr. wouldn't even talk to him for over a year. You never saw pictures of Trump engaging with his children as a father when they were young and he still treats his sons, especially Don Jr., with contempt. He's infamous for insulting and berating Jr. in front of others.

But yeah, let's call Joe a 'pedo' and speculate about his daughter being molested by her father. Some people are very happy scraping the bottom of the barrel.

plague311 22nd March 2022 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13763728)
How ironic that the man who put his children first his entire life is now being basically accused of being a 'pedo' and molesting his own daughter by the same people who support a man who virtually ignored his own children until they were old enough to be of use to him. A man who has had over 20 women accuse him of everything from rape to forced kissing and who brags about grabbing women's genitals.

The pictures of Ivanka dancing on Trump, and Trump saying he would date her if he wasn't her father.

I don't think we'll ever actually know what she meant in that diary. She was recovering from drug addiction, and the parts I read from the story sounds like she was trying to piece together what she could remember.

>>>IF<< Joe did something inappropriate then he should receive backlash. I'll need more than an obscure diary entry though.

Stacyhs 22nd March 2022 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by plague311 (Post 13763736)
The pictures of Ivanka dancing on Trump, and Trump saying he would date her if he wasn't her father.

I don't think we'll ever actually know what she meant in that diary. She was recovering from drug addiction, and the parts I read from the story sounds like she was trying to piece together what she could remember.

>>>IF<< Joe did something inappropriate then he should receive backlash. I'll need more than an obscure diary entry though.


This reminds me of when Trump and Sanders supporters tried to make a scandal out of that whackadoodle who claimed Biden assaulted her in the Capitol. I think Trump most definitely favors Ivanka, but I do NOT think he ever touched her inappropriately. As much as I detest the man, I won't sink so low as to make such an unsupported claim or even imply it.


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