Don't forget:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/15/b...ibery-law.html

"Trump Tried to Kill Anti-Bribery Rule He Deemed ‘Unfair,’ New Book Alleges"

"The president asked administration officials to help kill the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, according to a new book from two Washington Post reporters"

Trump supporters in general lack integrity. Bannon and Giuliani are even worse than most of their kind. It would certainly lend credence to the story if it came from an American source as opposed to a Trump related source.

I’m comfortable dismissing that without hearing it because it’s an exclusive on a right wing site that I’ve never heard of with no explanation of where it came from and don’t trust anything they say. It’s not my first day on the internet. Im also comfortable being judged however you want for doing so.

Bobulinski said in his Tucker Carlson interview tonight that the reason he came forward was because blabbermouth Adam Schiff said the emails with his name on them was Russian disinformation from the Kremlin. Bobulinski contacted Biden's people and said that if a retraction wasn't issued he was coming forward with all of his information.

Thanks for being a lying idiot, Adam.

Only filthy Trumptrash of the first order would go on Tucky's show. Everyone knows their kind can't be trusted.

The same Tucker Carlson that won a slander suit against Karen McDougal on the grounds that a reasonable person of average intelligence should know that the things he says aren't true? Say it ain't so.

"Trump trash" https://heavy.com/news/tony-bobulinski/

You remind me of a 9/11 truther dismissing information solely because you don't like where it comes from.

When the source is someone who's legal defense was that people should not believe what he says? Yes.

Well you remind me of Tucker Carlson.

Tony Bobulinski's legal defense??? He's the source of the interview.

Anyway, how is Hunter Biden polling after these revelations (well, "revelations") - surely his campaign has thrown the towel in, what's the point any longer?

Trusting where it comes from is probably more important.

Saratoga doesn't make Benedict Arnold a patriot.

So Bobudouchski is ******* lying. As I linked earlier in the thread, Trump and company shopped this douche to a reporter from the WSJ before Rudy started spreading the **** around. The reporter and his colleagues didn't buy it, and that is why Bob is making the rounds of conservative outlets who don't give a single **** about truth.

To be clear - is it your position that someone is unsuitable as a presidential candidate if people in their circle are convicted criminals, and if they have had business dealings with agents of hostile foreign powers?

I've made a suggested edit ;)

I'm sure the Democratic party has some Clinton era character assassins around who can deal with this guy.

There's clearly been no bombshell. The story hasn't even gained traction with the Fox News Division. It's only being carried on enemy news outlets.

This isn't even information, it's noise, designed to delight those who relish the misfortunes of a fortunate son - not because he's involved in the elections or the campaign or political activity of his father but only because they support the guy his dad is running against.

When they even lost FOX: ‘Our Interview Is Now OVER’: Giuliani Erupts on Fox’s Kennedy Over Biden, Shouts at Her for ‘Outrageous Defamation’

The sequence starting at minute 7 is delicious.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/our-inte...us-defamation/

One would think she touched a nerve.....

According to that interview, Giuliani is claiming there are at least 2 other laptops that used to be Hunter's out there, that are or were in the possession of known Russian asset Derkach:

So the known Russian asset magically has possession of multiple laptops that Hunter Biden lost or forgot somewhere, and he's shopping them around? And we're expected to believe this isn't Russian disinformation?

Foxnews WSJ et al have dropped the Hunter Biden story, because, well, Trump and Biden and the last minute "barnstorming" is the only story now.

Well, heck, she accused him of being like Christopher Steele.

And Christopher Steele is a highly respected former British intelligence agent. who did a great job investigating Russian ties to Psychobozo before the 2016 election.

Giuliani wants you to know he's not a highly respected anything. He's a sleazy, corrupt, incompetent moron who thought that sucking up to Psychobozo would bring him some sort of benefit, and who was filmed reaching into his pants to straighten out his penis so that if he got an erection it wouldn't be folded in half (which can be painful).

So, umm ... yeah. Comparing him to a respectable person was a low blow. Bad lady!:mad:

This whole "Hunter Biden laptop" story is so lame that most won't touch it.

Dave Weigel, from the Washington Post, who sometimes follows Pence on the campaign trail, noticed that Pence never refers to the Hunter story (he did often refer to the Wikileaks dumps in 2016).

Other example, today at a meeting in Iowa:


ETA2: Ok, now Cotton does go there!

ETA: this Politico article shows how MAGA world has failed with this October surprise.

(bolding mine)

What "barnstorming" are they talking about?

Biden is making appearances in five states this week: Pennsylvania on Monday, Georgia yesterday, then Iowa, Wisconsin, and a couple stops in Florida. He's flying around the country and working on helping the down-ballot Democrats, but he has "car rallies" instead of coronavirus super-spreader events like Psychobozo. If you stay in your own car and listen to his speeches, you don't get -- or spread -- the virus.

Last night Psychobozo did a super-spreader in Omaha, and a bunch of senior citizens got hypothermia because of the poor organization of the event. Lots of them were taken to the hospital. Hay, he TOLD you that you'd get tired of winning! :D

Ok, so it's a common phrase in the finishing stretch to an election? Pardon my lack of knowledge in American parlance, I'm Sveeedish.

Context. Back in 'Ye Old Days' in rural areas that lacked proper theaters or arenas, performers would often rent out barns which in some areas were the largest buildings in town. So smaller acts and shows that toured mostly rural areas became known as "Barnstorming."

In politics it is sort of similar, making a lot of small stops in rural areas.

There's also a form of stunt flying called barnstorming because flying through a barn was one of the primary tricks.

That was delicious. Yeah, Rudy doctored the whole thing.

Well yeah but that doesn't matter, or at least doesn't matter as much as it should.

This was a smear job, not an actual investigation. So no matter how much it gets disproven now the cult members will still believe it and at least some more mainstream voters now still have a mental connection between Biden and something shady.

It's a sign of the times that a mundane post like this is noteworthy.

Just once, pretty please, could a cultist own a "mistake"? Own that they've been wrong. Own that the facts tell a different story. Own the sorry reality that they expend energy propping up a fascistic, racist, ignorant, sociopathic, infantile, lying imbecile. Just once?

Not that poster, who believes most mass shooters are black.

Oh I'm confused. You all are talking like there are this things called "facts" that exist and make one person, how can I put this "more correct" than another person.

And that's just crazy talk. Total Looney Tunes.

Waaaait, many rethuglicans here and elsewhere questioned "invisible" Biden and his no-show campaign and how he can win in these circumstances? Don't tell me they... lied?!

Cheers.

Over on another board I read, there was some guy wondering why Biden holds small rallies rather than just posting videos from home. There's no way you can win with idiots like this. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

It's the inane "Republicans are (somehow) better for the environment because Al Gore doesn't live in a solar powered cardboard box" mentality.

Since the only thing Trumpers are interested in is "taking people down a peg" because the only sin they recognize is "not being as good as you think you are" having standards actually works against you.

You have to understand that in the Trump base's twisted mentality Trump not giving a crap about people dying and then holding superspreader events is okay but Biden actually caring about people and holding small, safer events that still has some risk is not because Biden has to be punished for the sin of actually having standards while Trump does not.

"Don't you dare have standards unless you are 100% perfect" has been a big subtext to Trump and his base for a while now. It's like a 3rd person version of Bobbing, the idea that standard aren't actually a thing you can really have and everyone who claims to have them is lying which manifests as a sort of "If you don't follow your standards 100% all the time, up to the point that you basically can't function, then you don't really have them and need to be mocked and punished for your hubris" mentality.

No, I didn't, link it, or stop attributing your delusions to me.

And quite wrong, on your and his part, which is understandable.

It seems that Hunter has a habit of dropping laptops off for repair, forgetting that he's done so, and buying a new one. And repair shop owners have a habit of searching through these laptops and then giving the contents to random people.

Why would anyone trust Tucker when Fox says you can not trust Tucker?

U.S. District Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil wrote: "Fox persuasively argues, that given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer 'arrive[s] with an appropriate amount of skepticism' about the statement he makes."

The "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "

Maybe it will be today. I'm not taking a shower today because I don't want to miss the news of Biden being arrested from his basement bunker.

Geez, it's amusing how quickly you guys forget the stuff that falls apart in this story.

Here you go.

And no where in there did I say it was true or anything, I quoted Giuliani, and said don't shoot the messenger. I repeatedly posted what the claims were and said as much.

What's amusing is you can't tell the difference between me posting what someone else is claiming, and what my claims are or aren't.

"LOL I was just............ *dramatic pause*..... *longer dramatic pause* ASKING QUESTIONS!" is going to be the excuse, hence the "Don't shoot the messenger" out they put in their original post.

Again this is a smear job, everyone is going to suggest a lot but very few people are going to go on record as saying anything.

Argumentative and intellectual cowardness. If you're going to accuse someone of something, own it.

Anyone who reads the post can see I was not "asking questions" I was posting what the claim was. Hence "Giuliani goes there" and "don't shoot the messenger."

I can't help it if you or anyone else has a comprehension problem, or are so desperate to smear people that you will insert words into other people's mouths.

So you're just repeating baseless lies instead of making them up yourself.

I could play your game and ask you if you think Giuliani was lying, but that was certainly not the impression you gave when you "didn't 'make the claim' per se, just repeated the claim, defended the claim, and tried to mock anyone who disputed the claim."

I posted the claim, you can characterize it however you want. It's quite clear in the post that it was in no way my claim or that I thought it was true. Even going so far as to say "don't shoot the messenger." And yet that's exactly what is happening. Which only goes to show how clearly dishonest you and others here are. The mere fact that someone would declare I made a claim and provide a link that proves I made NO such claim, yet he and others try to spin it only makes them look foolish.