The only discussion I have partaken in thus far regarding Ms. Greene is the incident linked to regarding the trolling of her by another Rep., and the resultant hyperbole and bias it entailed.

It also said "trust the science". The horror!

I'm afraid you'll need to provide some evidence for this.

It's just odd that you felt the need to lie. Weird.

"Weird" is a grown person (of which I am assuming you are)who doesn't know what a "lie" is.

And yet you are ignorant of Ms. Greene's actions in this incident. Of course you must be ignorant, because there is no way you would be disingenuously pretending her actions prior to the hanging of the trans flag^* were not part of the incident.





^*(remember, this means a flag representing support for transgender people and their rights, not a flag that has a gender. I know this was difficult for you before)

Was one of her actions prior to the incident calling out and trolling her office mate?

Would you mind telling me why you need evidence? Can you take an educated guess as to what I'm talking about please.

Why don't you look it up? There's no shortage of reporting on her anti-trans statements and actions going back at least 2 year's.

Its not limited to that, and it not the first time she has made vile comments about LGBTQ people

When you make a point of publicly attacking transgender people when you KNOW that an opponent is transgender, or that they have transgender family, you ARE trolling that person whether you think you are or not.

What is not the first time?
What "vile comment" about LGBTQ people has she made?

The post I joined this thread responding to claimed that the "there are two genders....respect the science" sign she put up in response to trolling from her office-mate was "the worst thing she has ever done", that doesn't indicate much of a history of "vileness".

ETAmend: the post did not claim it was the "worst" thing she had done. It claimed it was the "most disgusting"

All of this stupidity as one example.

Your refusal to answer my questions is all the answer I need. It is more than a little odd that you are so are so ashamed of your agreement with Greene's bigotry that you cannot admit it.

You have misquoted the sign, But no, I do not find that a supportable position. It is totally and intentionally wrong, and completely ignorant of the facts.

Your question?
What question?
The one where you asked if I found "her positions" supportable without spelling out which position you were asking about?

Which of those qualifies as a "vile" comment about an LGBTQ person?

As one example.

MTG is neither a psychologist nor a gender researcher; she is a cement-headed bigot who is attempting to legislate her bigotry against the LGBTQ community.

Sorry that you have so much difficulty following a simple discussion. As I said, your refusal to answer my questions is all the answer I need. Your support of Greene's bigotry is not in doubt.

Greene tweeted about the Equality Act
Discrimination against LGBT people could be ended "easily?" Okay I'll ask: How? And I hope the answer isn't, discrimination against LGBT people could be ended easily if they'd just stop being LGBT.

As for Marj, she shore is a red-blooded American gal!

Marj gropes trump cutout at rally

My ex-boss was right. You can't make this stuff up! :eek:

What anti trans legislation has she proposed?

Opposition to legislation promoting LBGTQ rights by a bigot amounts to the same thing. Voting no to a bill is still legislating, doancha know.

Especially from this bigoted hypocrite who pisses and moans

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-...flags-n1256796

From the link:

"The only flag Greene specifically called out in her statement backing the flag legislation was the Black Lives Matter flag. She slammed “past, rogue members of the State Department” for flying “the flag of the radical Marxist group, Black Lives Matter.”


Seems it actually bans any flag other than the American one at American embassies.

Weak-sauce if it is supposed to be an example of "anti-trans" legislation.

And the other parts of that link??

Greene insisted she isn’t playing politics, adding, “this is about Patriotism, and we need more of it.”

She's wrong - we need less of it.

Seems to be a common trait of American "patriots" to deny rights to people who are not exactly like them.

The second example is a bit better.
Seems she would propose legislation that bars men, and trans women (biological men), from participating in Women's sport. Certainly opposed to the trans agenda, and on that basis could be called anti-trans, yet it is not punitive towards the trans-gendered, nor does it deny them rights.

Nope, I don't! While there are two sexes, sex is not the same as gender.

Sex is a biological construct, a physiological state.

Gender is a social construct, a psychological state.

If her sign had said "There are two sexes, respect the science", I would not have much of an issue with it.

It's Trump's humping of the flag. It's self-serving, pandering theater that plays with a certain segment of U.S. voters.

She is telling trans people they shouldn't exist. In fact she's saying they don't exist - they are mistaken. To me, that's a pretty hateful message.

Meanwhile she claims to know the mind of God.

Well, wouldn't hermaphrodites possibly qualify as a third? They're at least something of a hybrid.

two is just the lowest number at which sex works.
but many species have more than two sexes.

True and true, but lets not get tied up with edge cases - in confuses the issue.... and the idiots.

When you're a celebrity, they just let you do it! You can do anything!

But the edge cases give lie to the whole "there are only two genders" thing. She is trying to claim the backing of science, but the science doesn't actually back her.

She is saying no such thing. She is neither denying their existence- nor telling them they should not exist.

She literally says they're just pretending. It's been quoted on this page, but for those who get confused about basic things like flags being symbols this is probably too hard to keep track of.

But you don't cease to exist because you are pretending.

Since Greene invoked science, it's important to point out what the science actually is.

I think it's important to drive the science home since she invoked science and the fundamentalist component of her supporters are working hard to confuse the science on this (and nearly every) issue. And there aren't just two human sexes. And there is just one way to be something other than strictly male or female. There is not even one way to be female or male biologically.

Even if you try a semantic trick of saying there are just two sexes but some people mix them that still contradicts what the right ring wants to believe.

And the Bible says the animals were created male and female and many believe that to be strictly true, but that isn't true either. Across nature there are creatures that are hermaphrodite all their life, sexless, all female species, species that change sex during their life, multiple sexes, some fungi even have hundreds of sexes.


And a brief interjection to this exchange:

Bacteria engage in plasmid exchange which serves one of the purposes of sex and they don't have sexes.

"pretending" is a reasonable interpretation of a man/woman behaving in such a way as to attempt to give the impression that they are a gender other than what they are.

"refusing" is also a reasonable description of someone insisting that they are a gender different from what they are.

These are not hateful, nor discriminotory descriptors. They represent an outlook that is opposed to the agenda pushed by many trans-folk, but they are hardly outside of mainstream ideology. One could argue that calling them "hateful" or "vile" is such a transparent attempt to mischaracterize the sentiments based upon an agenda, that those arguments are just as kooky as a "jewish space laser"

Who, in wareyin's post, is pretending?