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TellyKNeasuss 28th October 2020 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by I Am The Scum (Post 13273347)
Tucker Carlson is now blaming mishandled shipping for his lack of documents. Yes, he's saying that they got lost in the mail.
I don't believe him. I think that he just doesn't want to admit that his dog ate the documents.

dirtywick 28th October 2020 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TahiniBinShawarma (Post 13273345)
Right, that's not what I asked for. I asked for any 2019 contemporary pieces on a Hunter Biden laptop/Hard drive. Not something that came out in Oct 2020. Something from 2019 that contains an allegation about a Hunter Biden laptop/hard drive being shopped around Ukraine in the year 2019. Not a report from 2020 mind you. I mean a report that was written in the year 2019, about some shady Ukrainian characters shopping around a Hunter Biden laptop/hard drive. A report from Oct 2020 would not really be what I am asking for. I'm asking for something that contains the allegation that a laptop/hard drive that purportedly had Hunter Biden's emails and pictures on it, was being shopped to Giuliani in Ukraine, which was printed/published/posted in the year 2019.

Or are all these reports about this Hunter Biden laptop/hard drive being shopped to Giuliani in 2019 coming from after Giuliani revealed he had it?
Nobody has really confirmed the laptop is real in 2020 so you’re asking a lot here tbh

TahiniBinShawarma 28th October 2020 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by I Am The Scum (Post 13273347)
Tucker Carlson is now blaming mishandled shipping for his lack of documents. Yes, he's saying that they got lost in the mail.
Not quite what he is saying.

https://twitter.com/SollenbergerRC/s...39130976104449

daenku32 28th October 2020 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TahiniBinShawarma (Post 13273378)
Bunch of meddling kids were seen fleeing the scene of the documents. How they manage to keep that van running to this day no one knows.

Craig4 28th October 2020 08:48 PM
It seems the audio of the Kushner boy talking to Woodward is turning out to be the only real, October Surprise. That's pretty much sucked the air out of the air out of the room for Tucky's show last night. The local News, Traffic and Weather radio station I listen to on the way to work had about 30 seconds on it and ended with the allegations being unverified. Tucky's big scoop is only being carried on enemy media right now. The American media seem to be all over the Kushner story.

TahiniBinShawarma 28th October 2020 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 13273395)
It seems the audio of the Kushner boy talking to Woodward is turning out to be the only real, October Surprise. That's pretty much sucked the air out of the air out of the room for Tucky's show last night. The local News, Traffic and Weather radio station I listen to on the way to work had about 30 seconds on it and ended with the allegations being unverified. Tucky's big scoop is only being carried on enemy media right now. The American media seem to be all over the Kushner story.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jared-k...m-the-doctors/


"And what Trump's been able to do is – I say he basically did a full hostile takeover of the Republican Party. And I don't think it's even as much about the issues. I think it's about the attitude."

Fact check true.

Firestone 29th October 2020 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by wareyin (Post 13273313)
Darn it, you guys! Tucker Carlson was just about to end Hunter Biden's candidacy when he accidentally lost the only copy of the emails! Man, can you just imagine the luck!
/s
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Originally Posted by I Am The Scum (Post 13273347)
Tucker Carlson is now blaming mishandled shipping for his lack of documents. Yes, he's saying that they got lost in the mail.
:boggled:

Saw this this morning on Twitter, thought "nah, my librul feed is taking poor Tucker out of context", actually listened to Tucker for 2 minutes (I hate the world for this), still boggled that there are people, millions of them, who buy this stuff.

Craig4 29th October 2020 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by I Am The Scum (Post 13273347)
Tucker Carlson is now blaming mishandled shipping for his lack of documents. Yes, he's saying that they got lost in the mail.
Ya' know, the package tracking comes free with both UPS and FEDEX.

varwoche 29th October 2020 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 13273516)
:boggled:

Saw this this morning on Twitter, thought "nah, my librul feed is taking poor Tucker out of context", actually listened to Tucker for 2 minutes (I hate the world for this), still boggled that there are people, millions of them, who buy this stuff.
Suckers with an insatiable appetite for...


http://www.internationalskeptics.com...41342e6236.jpg

Foggy of the Fogbow 29th October 2020 04:41 AM
Hay MotherTucker, the mail isn't reliable nowadays. Do you know why? :D

Darat 29th October 2020 05:51 AM
If only there was some way of sending documents over long distances by using wires... I know science fiction.

wareyin 29th October 2020 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by TahiniBinShawarma (Post 13273345)
Right, that's not what I asked for. I asked for any 2019 contemporary pieces on a Hunter Biden laptop/Hard drive. Not something that came out in Oct 2020. Something from 2019 that contains an allegation about a Hunter Biden laptop/hard drive being shopped around Ukraine in the year 2019. Not a report from 2020 mind you. I mean a report that was written in the year 2019, about some shady Ukrainian characters shopping around a Hunter Biden laptop/hard drive. A report from Oct 2020 would not really be what I am asking for. I'm asking for something that contains the allegation that a laptop/hard drive that purportedly had Hunter Biden's emails and pictures on it, was being shopped to Giuliani in Ukraine, which was printed/published/posted in the year 2019.

Or are all these reports about this Hunter Biden laptop/hard drive being shopped to Giuliani in 2019 coming from after Giuliani revealed he had it?
Sorry, kid, as I said nobody reports on scams that don't work. It takes someone falling for the scam for it to be news, and Giuliani fell for it this year, not last.

But hey, are there any news reports from 2019 of Hunter leaving...what are we up to now, 4?* laptops with child porn and financial crimes that experts like you can see but the FBI can't?

* eta actually I think it's 5 now? Giuliani had 3, and he claims Derkach has 2 more.

Foggy of the Fogbow 29th October 2020 05:57 AM
So Hunter Biden flies all around the country, leaving MacBooks lying around everywhere with child pr0n on them ... and emails about his corrupt dealings with the Ukrainian gubbermint? That's kind of a weird hobby.

He's never gonna be elected president. :D

I Am The Scum 29th October 2020 06:01 AM
5 laptops? He's like the Willy Wonka of 2020 politics.

StillSleepy 29th October 2020 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Foggy of the Fogbow (Post 13273656)
So Hunter Biden flies all around the country, leaving MacBooks lying around everywhere with child pr0n on them ... and emails about his corrupt dealings with the Ukrainian gubbermint? That's kind of a weird hobby.



He's never gonna be elected president. :D
Clearly Q is Hunter Biden rather than a certain pig farmer in the Philippines.

Dr. Keith 29th October 2020 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TahiniBinShawarma (Post 13273378)
Who actually ships electronic documents? Because let's be clear here, there are no "original" documents on a laptop or hard drive. There are no wet signatures to analyze or film photographs. No stamped or ribbon versions of the documents. All of this is electronic data. Surely there is a printer in his studio that can handle the necessary volume.

This is clearly entertainment, but what is so sad is that there are people who find it entertaining.

Bogative 29th October 2020 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by wareyin (Post 13273654)
* eta actually I think it's 5 now? Giuliani had 3, and he claims Derkach has 2 more.

Hey, look, another lie about the laptops. For a story story that is so obviously fake, there sure are a lot of lies being spread about it.

JoeMorgue 29th October 2020 09:03 AM
"Stop lying about the lies I'm telling!"

Adorable.

The Don 29th October 2020 09:08 AM
What really disappoints me is the way in which proper news outlets like the BBC treat Tucker Carlson as a credible journalist and not just an entertainer. Instead of simply mocking him for his "dog ate my homework" excuse, they're treating it seriously.

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Fox News host: 'Damning' Biden documents lost in the mail

Fox News anchor Tucker Carlson has said that a "damning" collection of confidential documents related to Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden, has been lost in the mail.

"They searched the plane and the trucks that carried it...they combed their entire cavernous sorting facility," he said. "But they found nothing, those documents have vanished."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/elec...ost_type=share

Indeed, the BBC seems to treat incredulity as a partisan issue:

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Many Trump critics met the explanation with disbelief online.
I'd have found a way to add that Tucker Carlson has relied on being entertainment and not news in court cases in the past. I'd have also highlighted how utterly ridiculous this is.

Sometimes in trying to appear impartial, you become very partial in the other direction.

llwyd 29th October 2020 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13273829)
Hey, look, another lie about the laptops. For a story story that is so obviously fake, there sure are a lot of lies being spread about it.
Well, they do seem to abound, and disappear, Schrödinger's laptops... Anyways, I guess all this means that you ain't gonna vote for Hunter Biden?

Bogative 29th October 2020 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13273834)
I'd have found a way to add that Tucker Carlson has relied on being entertainment and not news in court cases in the past.

Must be something in the water at the cable news networks.
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Maddow had inserted her own colorful commentary into and throughout the segment, laughing, expressing her dismay (i.e., saying 'I mean, what?') and calling the segment a 'sparkly story' and one we must 'take in stride.' For her to exaggerate the facts and call OAN Russian propaganda was consistent with her tone up to that point, and the Court finds a reasonable viewer would not take the statement as factual given this context," Bashant wrote.

Skeptic Ginger 29th October 2020 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13273653)
If only there was some way of sending documents over long distances by using wires... I know science fiction.
Are you suggesting email! Gasp! :jaw-dropp

Firestone 29th October 2020 10:07 AM
UPS found the package ...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ups-co...a=twitter_page

ETA: Tucker apparently denying it
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lol UPDATE: I asked Tucker about this and he said it wasn't true. Unclear if maybe he hadn't heard yet or what. I sent him a screenshot of the email [from UPS] and am waiting for reply.

https://twitter.com/SollenbergerRC/s...56386209320960

llwyd 29th October 2020 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 13273899)
Oh my, the deep state certainly isn't what it used to be...

Mader Levap 29th October 2020 10:33 AM
Again, this is incorrect subforum. Mods should move it where this crapola belongs - to Conspiracy subforum.

wareyin 29th October 2020 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13273829)
Hey, look, another lie about the laptops. For a story story that is so obviously fake, there sure are a lot of lies being spread about it.
Giuliani originally claimed to have 3 laptops, did he not?

Giuliani also claimed that Derkach had 2 laptops on the Kennedy show from Fox that was linked bere.

So...what was the lie? Oh, wait, when they were talking about the laptops Derkach has they implied there were at least 2. Was that it, that there's actually more out there? I did find a story the other day that claimed Hunter left another laptop with some psychiatrist he had been living with while the guy treated him, but other than a few Twitter posts laughing about it I can't find more on that one.

So apparently we're at a minimum of 6? Pretty soon there will be more Hunter laptops than pieces of the True Cross out there!

Bogative 29th October 2020 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by wareyin (Post 13273955)
Giuliani originally claimed to have 3 laptops, did he not?
He did not.

This really isn't that hard to follow. Hunter Biden took three laptops to the computer repair store. He left with two of them, leaving one behind for repairs.

The one laptop Hunter Biden left behind at the computer repair store was taken by the FBI.

Hunter Biden still has two of the three laptops that you claim Giuliani has, the FBI has the other.

Giuliani has a copy of the hard drive of one of the laptops.

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Giuliani also claimed that Derkach had 2 laptops on the Kennedy show from Fox that was linked bere.
Correct.

wareyin 29th October 2020 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13273976)
He did not.

This really isn't that hard to follow. Hunter Biden took three laptops to the computer repair store. He left with two of them, leaving one behind for repairs.
This was when he decided to fly 2500 miles away to get it fixed, avoided the free and authorized Apple shop, forged his own signature, refused to leave any contact info, and then erased the security footage of him even being there, right?

Are you sure it's not hard to follow?



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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13273976)
The one laptop Hunter Biden left behind at the computer repair store was taken by the FBI.

Hunter Biden still has two of the three laptops that you claim Giuliani has, the FBI has the other.
Your evidence that there were others and that Hunter has or ever had them, I hope it isn't Giuliani's word only. That'd be pretty foolish, trusting Deeptuck.

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13273976)
Giuliani has a copy of the hard drive of one of the laptops.
That's the one he got from his trip to the Ukraine, right?


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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13273976)
Correct.
Wait...even by your interpretation there were 3 laptops, plus Derkach has 2...so help me out, why is the claim that there's 5 a lie again?

TellyKNeasuss 29th October 2020 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by wareyin (Post 13273999)
Wait...even by your interpretation there were 3 laptops, plus Derkach has 2...so help me out, why is the claim that there's 5 a lie again?
Because if you perform a binary or on 3 and 2 you get 3?

Dr. Keith 29th October 2020 12:18 PM
Bobulinski wouldn't lie to you, would he?

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020...ing-biden.html

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Another oddity in the timing, as Andrew Prokop noticed, is that the star witness for Fox News and Trump, Tony Bobulinski, claimed he only came forward because he was outraged at the response to the New York Post story first reporting the email hacks. But Ben Smith reported in the New York Times that Bobulinski was working with Trump’s campaign to pitch the story to the Wall Street Journal, before they settled for giving it to the New York Post. (The Journal duly reported that they had no evidence of wrongdoing by Joe Biden.)
Is the repair shop guy the only person involved in this who hasn't been proven to be liar? Man, he must be feeling lonely.

Foggy of the Fogbow 29th October 2020 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13273976)
Hunter Biden took three laptops to the computer repair store. He left with two of them, leaving one behind for repairs.
Sure, because it's just easier to carry 3 laptops into a store than to just carry the one you want the store to work on, amirite?

I mean, the whole story falls apart from Overly Stoopit right there.

Give us ONE rational reason why anyone who had a broken laptop would carry three laptops into a store, and then carry two of them away again.

Hoo boy. :boggled:

wareyin 29th October 2020 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith (Post 13274048)
Bobulinski wouldn't lie to you, would he?

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020...ing-biden.html



Is the repair shop guy the only person involved in this who hasn't been proven to be liar? Man, he must be feeling lonely.
Judging by his contradictory statements in that interview linked to before, I think the repair guy is feeling pretty chummy.


Apologies, but we got hit by Hurricane Zeta last night and have no power, no internet, and barely any cell coverage at the moment. Google searches keep resetting so links are difficult. The Daily Beast had the hour long interview, and I know it was linked from another source about 3-4 pages ago as well.

Norman Alexander 29th October 2020 12:33 PM
The joke starts to get either not funny or just plain ridiculous (or both) when everyone knows the joke fell flat long ago but you still keep trying to flog it uphill. There's no punch-line gonna save this stinker.

timhau 29th October 2020 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Foggy of the Fogbow (Post 13274070)
Sure, because it's just easier to carry 3 laptops into a store than to just carry the one you want the store to work on, amirite?

I mean, the whole story falls apart from Overly Stoopit right there.

Give us ONE rational reason why anyone who had a broken laptop would carry three laptops into a store, and then carry two of them away again.

Hoo boy. :boggled:
But he's a drug addict and does stupid things all the time, so this lends more credibility to, um, whatever they're claiming at the moment.

TellyKNeasuss 29th October 2020 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by wareyin (Post 13273999)
Wait...even by your interpretation there were 3 laptops, plus Derkach has 2...so help me out, why is the claim that there's 5 a lie again?
King Aruthur: "He is the keeper of the Bridge of Death. He asks each traveller five questions--"
Galahad: "Three questions"
King Arthur: "Three questions. He who answers the five questions--"
Galahad: "Three questions"
King Arthur: "Three questions may cross in safety."

Norman Alexander 29th October 2020 12:40 PM
Also, if this is Bill Barr's October Surprise, my brother's son is a lower-order simian. While Barr may be a scruple-free opportunistic schemer, he is also reasonably intelligent. So I would expect him to have planned something a LOT better than this as a late-minute game-changer. This has nothing to do with Barr, and all to do with the total schmucks Giuliani and Tucker.

Dr. Keith 29th October 2020 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13274086)
Also, if this is Bill Barr's October Surprise, my brother's son is a lower-order simian. While Barr may be a scruple-free opportunistic schemer, he is also reasonably intelligent. So I would expect him to have planned something a LOT better than this as a late-minute game-changer. This has nothing to do with Barr, and all to do with the total schmucks Giuliani and Tucker.
Surely you meant "Tuck and Tucker"?

Oddly enough, the only person who isn't looking like a fool in all of this is Bill Barr.

Resume 29th October 2020 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith (Post 13274170)
Surely you meant "Tuck and Tucker"?

Oddly enough, the only person who isn't looking like a fool in all of this is Bill Barr.
So far.

The Great Zaganza 29th October 2020 02:28 PM
Barr is keeping his powder dry to go after Biden votes.

Norman Alexander 29th October 2020 03:26 PM
I suspect Bill Barr is planning his sudden departure for somewhere with no extradition clause with the USA. To...see more of his family, pursue overseas business opportunities, etc.


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