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Garrison 24th September 2019 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by McHrozni (Post 12830553)
Suspension was ruled unlawful. Chopping block sales skyrocket (alledgedly).

McHrozni
And it was a unanimous decision.

Wudang 24th September 2019 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Garrison (Post 12830564)
And it was a unanimous decision.
Which is interesting because beforehand the best legal types I follow thought was plausible was 8:3. However all also said all bets were off.

Garrison 24th September 2019 03:15 AM
I think Johnson really thought he could go full Trump, just take a wrecking ball to all precedent and process and get away with it. Parliamentary and judicial sovereignty in action BoJo!

Darat 24th September 2019 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Lothian (Post 12830549)
All 11 Supreme Court judges find against Boris. Which git wanted to sideline the ECJ?
I'm amazed it was a unanimous decision.

wobs 24th September 2019 03:55 AM
Days since Boris's last catastrophe: 0

Information Analyst 24th September 2019 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 12830478)
On Channel 4 News Boris claimed that once out of the EU we can ban the sale of shark fin soup.
Shark finning was banned in the EU years ago, but the trade in shark fins cannot be banned due to WTO rules, not because of the EU.
After the kippers, he's obviously moving on to bigger fish....

GlennB 24th September 2019 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by wobs (Post 12830599)
Days since Boris's last catastrophe: 0
If he stays in bed all day that might climb to 1, then drop down again when he opens his mouth.

Garrison 24th September 2019 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by GlennB (Post 12830601)
If he stays in bed all day that might climb to 1, then drop down again when he opens his mouth.
Rather depends on whose bed he's in...

a_unique_person 24th September 2019 04:01 AM
When this is all over, Boris is going to find himself remarkably short of friends.

Information Analyst 24th September 2019 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by GlennB (Post 12830601)
If he stays in bed all day that might climb to 1, then drop down again when he opens his mouth.
That would depend on whose bed he was in.

ETA: Beaten to it by Garrison.

Squeegee Beckenheim 24th September 2019 04:07 AM
I'm incredibly heartened. The decision is more than I had dared hope for.

wobs 24th September 2019 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim (Post 12830610)
I'm incredibly heartened. The decision is more than I had dared hope for.
Seconded

a_unique_person 24th September 2019 04:12 AM
So, does every one just turn up for work tomorrow?

McHrozni 24th September 2019 04:12 AM
Parliament already scheduled a series of PM's questions for tommorow. That sounds rather unpleasant.

It will also reset the counter above.

McHrozni

angrysoba 24th September 2019 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by a_unique_person (Post 12830613)
So, does every one just turn up for work tomorrow?
Bercow says yes.

Wudang 24th September 2019 04:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by McHrozni (Post 12830615)
Parliament already scheduled a series of PM's questions for tommorow. That sounds rather unpleasant.
John Bercow has just been on BBC news. It's too late to give notice for PMQ but he is allowing room for urgent statements and questions for Ministers etc. So effectivly yes.

erlando 24th September 2019 04:20 AM
This SC decision almost eclipses the Trump/Ukraine corruption scandal.

These are "interesting" times... :popcorn1

Hubert Cumberdale 24th September 2019 04:23 AM
I guess refusing to offer any evidence, including refusing to issue any sworn affidavits is not the best way to win in court. Whodathunkit.

Wudang 24th September 2019 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Hubert Cumberdale (Post 12830630)
I guess refusing to offer any evidence, including refusing to issue any sworn affidavits is not the best way to win in court. Whodathunkit.
I think BJ has demonstrated he is not too strong on the subject of "caution" in either sense.

Squeegee Beckenheim 24th September 2019 04:39 AM
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1176448261164584961

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Several opposition sources say expecting Commons to sit at 1130 tomorrow

Pixel42 24th September 2019 04:47 AM
I actually danced a little jig when I heard the news.

Ryokan 24th September 2019 04:48 AM
A great victory for justice, democracy and parliamentarism.

This is evidence that the state of the UK is more robust than the US. The executive branch can't get away with abusing the law.

Squeegee Beckenheim 24th September 2019 05:00 AM
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1176465235164708865

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Boris Johnson just arrived at his morning meeting, looking like he was pulled through a hedge backwards while said hedge was being fed to a combine-harvester. To nobody's real surprise, he didn't answer any of the shouted questions from journalists about possible resignation.

McHrozni 24th September 2019 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryokan (Post 12830653)
A great victory for justice, democracy and parliamentarism.

This is evidence that the state of the UK is more robust than the US. The executive branch can't get away with abusing the law.
I wouldn't go that far, Brexit is a three year debacle that exposed a great many things, it's a stretch to say the state of UK is more robust than US based on this one instance where the British state functioned in three long years. The incident shows the executive branch of UK is less powerful than the executive branch of USA.

In truth we knew this before. The two systems form the duality of democracy: Westminster parliamentary system (as practiced in Germany and UK, among others) and Presidential system (as practiced in USA and Turkey, among others).

McHrozni

P.J. Denyer 24th September 2019 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 12830480)
Boris made it his job to lie about the EU in his role as a "journalist" - and got fired for it.
Why would he stop lying now when it got him into Downing Street ?
He was fired for making up quotes in The Times, then he was hired by The Telegraph to lie about the EU, the Telegraph had no problem with it.

P.J. Denyer 24th September 2019 05:20 AM
Troubling times for single mothers as calls grow for Boris to spend more time with his families.

The Great Zaganza 24th September 2019 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim (Post 12830668)
Shameless quote theft from Douglas Adams.

Archie Gemmill Goal 24th September 2019 05:33 AM
So that means no Queens Speech and no new session of Parliament for the time being, right?

Archie Gemmill Goal 24th September 2019 05:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hubert Cumberdale (Post 12830630)
I guess refusing to offer any evidence, including refusing to issue any sworn affidavits is not the best way to win in court. Whodathunkit.
Strange that 'trust me I'm a Tory' wasn't considered evidence enough really

Squeegee Beckenheim 24th September 2019 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 12830703)
Shameless quote theft from Douglas Adams.
If you follow the link, rather than just reading the quote, you'll see that he acknowledges the phrase in the next tweet.

The Great Zaganza 24th September 2019 05:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Archie Gemmill Goal (Post 12830717)
So that means no Queens Speech and no new session of Parliament for the time being, right?
He could call for new elections.
Probably will.

Squeegee Beckenheim 24th September 2019 05:46 AM
Johnson's been saying that the court decision is about people trying to frustrate Brexit, and by saying that they need a Queen's speech anyway, is hinting that he's going to have another go at proroguing parliament.

The Great Zaganza 24th September 2019 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim (Post 12830725)
If you follow the link, rather than just reading the quote, you'll see that he acknowledges the phrase in the next tweet.
Just wanted to give credit where credit is due - which wasn't with Terry Pratchett in this case.

ponderingturtle 24th September 2019 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 12830729)
He could call for new elections.
Probably will.
Didn't he already and lost the vote? Would a vote of no confidence be a win or lose for him at this point, as I thought he was aiming for one a few weeks ago.

Dave Rogers 24th September 2019 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim (Post 12830732)
Johnson's been saying that the court decision is about people trying to frustrate Brexit, and by saying that they need a Queen's speech anyway, is hinting that he's going to have another go at proroguing parliament.
I would think the Queen would be well advised to have a lawyer in the room next time she speaks to BoJo.

Dave

Squeegee Beckenheim 24th September 2019 05:51 AM
https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/stat...72848183021569

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No10 sources say PM will not resign. He will also fly home overnight after UN speech this evening. Johnson will also hold a conference call with the Cabinet today.

No10 also confirm PM will refuse to take any more questions from the media today. A bad look to be running scared of a press conference.

Worm 24th September 2019 05:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim (Post 12830732)
Johnson's been saying that the court decision is about people trying to frustrate Brexit, and by saying that they need a Queen's speech anyway, is hinting that he's going to have another go at proroguing parliament.
This also goes against the Government's previous position, that the prorogation had nothing to do with Brexit, and was part of the normal business of Parliament.

Wudang 24th September 2019 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim (Post 12830643)
That's what Bercow announced earlier.

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The Speaker of the Commons, John Bercow, has told reporters Parliament will resume on Wednesday at 11:30 BST.

He said that "due to notification requirements", Prime Minister's Questions would not go ahead - but there would be time for urgent questions and ministerial statements.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-pol...n-on-wednesday

Darat 24th September 2019 06:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Rogers (Post 12830741)
I would think the Queen would be well advised to have a lawyer in the room next time she speaks to BoJo.



Dave
Or give up her disgusting influence on the governance of the country.

Darat 24th September 2019 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Worm (Post 12830753)
This also goes against the Government's previous position, that the prorogation had nothing to do with Brexit, and was part of the normal business of Parliament.
You know what they say about being your own worse enemy....


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