International Skeptics Forum

International Skeptics Forum (http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/forumindex.php)
-   USA Politics (http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=6)
-   -   Continuation The Trump Presidency: Part 25 (http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=346437)

Regnad Kcin 8th September 2020 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ladewig (Post 13216090)
Is there any doubt that if any other president had said this he’d be laughed off the stage?

Furthermore we need to look no further than Ralph Waldo Emerson to find the perfect response. “The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted the spoons.”

ETA
we’ve reached the point where he is now saying he is better than Lincoln and Washington.

Well, Washington commanded a bunch of guys a lot of whom became losers. And Lincoln was gay. Duh.

Solitaire 8th September 2020 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13216460)
Going broke, it's what he's good at!


Trump’s Net Worth Drops $600 Million In A Year To $2.5 Billion by Dan Alexander

Trump Considers Spending $100 Million On Campaign by Eliza Relman

Yikes!

At a loss of 600 million a year and out 100 million, for a total of $2.5 billion,
he literally cannot afford to win this one.

Regnad Kcin 8th September 2020 10:37 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 13216162)
You give him way too much credit :)

...

Andy_Ross 8th September 2020 10:51 AM

Seems weird that this is how he meant to quiet the assertions that his campaign funds are tanking.
He doesn't use his money if he doesn't absolutely have to. That's a fact.

The Don 8th September 2020 11:01 AM

President Trump got away with not having to spend too much on ads in 2016 because he got wall to wall coverage on all media outlets with his outrageous behaviour.

I hope that he doesn't get it this time around. Perhaps that's the only advantage of being subjected to 4 years of President Trump's behaviour.

Trebuchet 8th September 2020 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13216521)
Seems weird that this is how he meant to quiet the assertions that his campaign funds are tanking.
He doesn't use his money if he doesn't absolutely have to. That's a fact.

He not only doesn't use his own money in the campaign, he and those around him consistently redirect campaign funds into their own pockets.

Delphic Oracle 8th September 2020 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 13216405)
I will allow that seeing people speak can help with understanding what they're saying, for those with difficulty hearing. But I think Trump's problem is his difficulty in listening.

When shown video and of "bah", "gah", and "dah" mismatched with audio reveals people will more frequently follow the visual reference.

Armitage72 8th September 2020 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 13216543)
He not only doesn't use his own money in the campaign, he and those around him consistently redirect campaign funds into their own pockets.


I had a funny thought. It's just fantasy, but suppose these recent "normalized relationship" announcements by various countries are the result of campaign funds diverted to pay off the people involved in the announcements.

"Here's $50 million for you, and $50 million for you. Now you just have to pretend to not hate each other for the next several months."

alfaniner 8th September 2020 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 13216543)
He not only doesn't use his own money in the campaign, he and those around him consistently redirect campaign funds into their own pockets.

I can guarantee he will not spend a cent of his own money for his campaign. Oh, he will probably come up with a promise to match all donations, but then he won't contribute at all.

Aridas 8th September 2020 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by varwoche (Post 13216365)
Too bad. It's an astounding, hilarious, disturbing look at the mindset of Trump cultists.

When I had watched it before - disturbing overwhelmed the other two that you listed.

But then, I'm probably a bit weird and don't really gain satisfaction by looking down on dupes and evil.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13216477)

Honestly, that's pretty much to be expected, along with a larger "white backlash" to the threat of change and having relative advantages under fire. For too many, it takes much more personal internal conflict to change course - for example, the anti-gay conservatives with gay kids are much more likely to change their opinions and the COVID deniers that lost a spouse who had a change of heart.

Andy_Ross 8th September 2020 12:11 PM

Trump Retweets

Democrats and Sleepy Joe’s Peaceful Protestors!
Quote Tweet

Mark Dice
@MarkDice
Black power extremists invade McDonalds in Pittsburgh cuz of rrrrrraaaacim ‘n stuff.

Andy_Ross 8th September 2020 12:14 PM

Trump Retweeted

Tim Pool
@Timcast
It's hard for me to believe Trump will lose in November considering all the polls in 2016 and how Biden is substantially worse than Hillary in many ways
"Biden, to me, is like taking a flashlight with a dying battery and going for a long walk in the woods." - Joe Rogan

Clay Travis
@ClayTravis
Spotify deleted all the Alex Jones appearances — and other guests too — from Joe Rogan’s podcast archives.

Andy_Ross 8th September 2020 12:15 PM

Trump Tweets

Sleepy Joe Biden has pledged to ABOLISH Suburban Communites as they currently exist by reinstating Obama’s radical AFFH Regulation. There goes Suburbia!

Democrats admit that President Trump’s message is “working” on violence coming to the Suburbs in a Looney Biden Administration. Plus, Biden just doubled down on forcing Federal control of local zoning. This means low income housing and projects. So much for the American Dream!

They are not “peaceful protesters”, as Sleepy Joe and the Democrats call them, they are THUGS - And it is all taking place in Democrat run cities. Call me and request Federal HELP. We will solve your problems in a matter of minutes - And thanks to the U.S. Marshalls in Portland!

On my way to the Great State of Florida, see you soon!

Aridas 8th September 2020 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 13216426)
Remember when the Right kept saying that liberals were calling Obama the chosen one? Yea, none of us did and neither did Obama claim to be.

Trump, however....

They claimed a lot of things that weren't even remotely objectively true, of course. The more disturbing part about that, though, is how they just keep making their false accusations towards others into the reality of how they treat their people and the actions that they themselves are taking.

thaiboxerken 8th September 2020 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13216603)
Trump Tweets

Sleepy Joe Biden has pledged to ABOLISH Suburban Communites as they currently exist by reinstating Obama’s radical AFFH Regulation. There goes Suburbia!

LOL. I wonder how anyone could believe this nonsense. If the AFFH Regulations were there to abolish surburbs, why didn't it happen when the regulations were in effect?

I guess it makes as much sense and his asking for re-election otherwise the violence in the streets won't stop. Yes, the violence that is happening on the streets under his administration....

Delphic Oracle 8th September 2020 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aridas (Post 13216606)
They claimed a lot of things that weren't even remotely objectively true, of course. The more disturbing part about that, though, is how they just keep making their false accusations towards others into the reality of how they treat their people and the actions that they themselves are taking.

There have been a number of people in my life who, when they start describing a behavior they are concerned is being used to attack them, I immediately start planning to defend myself against that behavior from them.

Cain 8th September 2020 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 13216614)
LOL. I wonder how anyone could believe this nonsense.

You guys didn't think Trump would win.
You didn't he could build the wall and get Mexico to pay for it.
You didn't think he could make great deals.

Armitage72 8th September 2020 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 13216614)
LOL. I wonder how anyone could believe this nonsense. If the AFFH Regulations were there to abolish surburbs, why didn't it happen when the regulations were in effect?


It's just like when President Obama was going to take away everyone's guns. They were waiting until the perfect moment after everyone had let down their guard. And waiting ... and waiting ... and waiting.

Lupus 8th September 2020 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13215470)
Who is warning us about all the rapists and murderers and caravans bringing smallpox and other disease over the borders? Who is telling us that Dems want to take your guns away? Who is telling us that our cities will be in flames and rioting and looting will happen under "Biden's America" when it's happening NOW? Who is telling us massive voter fraud will happen with mail in voting? Who is telling suburban women that low-income housing will “destroy your neighborhood and your American Dream.”?

If you think that it's the liberals who are driven by fear, then you live in an alternate universe.

Is this you?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eco-anxiety
"Climate change is also linked to elevated rates of mood disorders, such as depression, anxiety, pre- and post-traumatic stress and increased drug and alcohol use. It is also associated with increased suicidal intention and death by suicide."

Andy_Ross 8th September 2020 01:06 PM

Eric trump Tweets

@EricTrump
Football is officially dead — so much for “America’s sport.” Goodbye NFL... I’m gone.
Quote Tweet

Washington Examiner
@dcexaminer
Dallas Cowboys player says officials have given team "green light" to protest national anthem.
https://washex.am/334FRQ3

Norman Alexander 8th September 2020 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lupus (Post 13216670)
Is this you?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eco-anxiety
"Climate change is also linked to elevated rates of mood disorders, such as depression, anxiety, pre- and post-traumatic stress and increased drug and alcohol use. It is also associated with increased suicidal intention and death by suicide."

It's the difference between a demonstrated factual situation and a really bad pitch of a really bad script of a 5th-rate fiction movie that will never be made.

varwoche 8th September 2020 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aridas (Post 13216583)
When I had watched it before - disturbing overwhelmed the other two that you listed.

But then, I'm probably a bit weird and don't really gain satisfaction by looking down on dupes and evil.

You're fine. I do what must in order to cope.

JoeMorgue 8th September 2020 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13216694)
It's the difference between a demonstrated factual situation and a really bad pitch of a really bad script of a 5th-rate fiction movie that will never be made.

No there's not.

There used to be, back when the world had facts.

But not anymore. Being afraid of something that will happen and being afraid of something that won't happen are the same thing. Being angry at stuff that is happening is being "dramatic" while being angry at stuff that doesn't happen is valid.

There are no facts anymore. So there is no difference in anything outside of who wants to be loudest and most stubborn about it.

quadraginta 8th September 2020 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 13216086)
I don't. People would need to want to get the vaccine. Right now only about half of people in the US would take vaccine. Rush it through without completing all the trials and that number will go down more. Perhaps if Trump made it less obvious that he wants it to help his reelection bid people would be more excited about it.

I'd also note that Trump's approval rating specifically on the virus had no meaningful change in the week after he announced the EUA for convalescent blood plasma. News about the virus doesn't seem to impact Trump's approval rating anymore.


And, depending on circumstances, I could easily find myself in the other half.

Make no mistake. I'm a big fan of vaccines. I keep mine updated (which reminds me, it's time to get my flu vaccination). I think they're great.

But if there is a Covid vaccine that 'just happens' to come out right before Nov.3, and it is being hawked by Trump and Fiends I probably will wait for the next bus.

There is no doubt that he's already made HHS and the CDC his creatures, and anything they might say is more than suspect. In fact it is probably outright lies. Trump and Fiends can't move their lips without lying.

Maybe an EU approved vaccine. I might even have more faith in something the Chinese came up with.

BigFace42 8th September 2020 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13216600)
Trump Retweeted

Tim Pool
@Timcast
It's hard for me to believe Trump will lose in November considering all the polls in 2016 and how Biden is substantially worse than Hillary in many ways
"Biden, to me, is like taking a flashlight with a dying battery and going for a long walk in the woods." - Joe Rogan

And Trump is like taking a flamethrower and wondering why it just got warmer in here.

Dr. Keith 8th September 2020 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13216671)
Eric trump Tweets

@EricTrump
Football is officially dead — so much for “America’s sport.” Goodbye NFL... I’m gone.
Quote Tweet

Washington Examiner
@dcexaminer
Dallas Cowboys player says officials have given team "green light" to protest national anthem.
https://washex.am/334FRQ3


I wonder how the NFL will cope without Eric Trump.

Stacyhs 8th September 2020 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Who is warning us about all the rapists and murderers and caravans bringing smallpox and other disease over the borders? Who is telling us that Dems want to take your guns away? Who is telling us that our cities will be in flames and rioting and looting will happen under "Biden's America" when it's happening NOW? Who is telling us massive voter fraud will happen with mail in voting? Who is telling suburban women that low-income housing will “destroy your neighborhood and your American Dream.”?

If you think that it's the liberals who are driven by fear, then you live in an alternate universe.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lupus (Post 13216670)
Is this you?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eco-anxiety
"Climate change is also linked to elevated rates of mood disorders, such as depression, anxiety, pre- and post-traumatic stress and increased drug and alcohol use. It is also associated with increased suicidal intention and death by suicide."

I see that you are not refuting that it's Trump and his administration who fear mongering by pushing all the above quoted in my post. Instead you counter by posting some weird ass wikipedia article that is being considered for removal. Well done.

Andy_Ross 8th September 2020 03:37 PM

Trump Tweets

Police Chief, and most of the police in Rochester, N.Y., have resigned. The Democrat Mayor and, of courses, Governor Cuomo, have no idea what to do. New York State is a mess - No Money, High Taxes & Crime, Everyone Fleeing. November 3rd. We can fix it!

Andy_Ross 8th September 2020 03:39 PM

Trump tweets

Just left Florida, see everyone tonight in North Carolina! #MAGA
Quote Tweet

Congressman Dan Bishop
@jdanbishop
US House candidate, NC-9
Excited to be with @realDonaldTrump in #NC tonight! #PromisesKept

Stacyhs 8th September 2020 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13216836)
Trump Tweets

Police Chief, and most of the police in Rochester, N.Y., have resigned. The Democrat Mayor and, of courses, Governor Cuomo, have no idea what to do. New York State is a mess - No Money, High Taxes & Crime, Everyone Fleeing. November 3rd. We can fix it!

Lie. The command staff, not the police.
Quote:

Along with the police chief, the city's entire command staff announced it will vacate their roles.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/rochester-...ry?id=72884253

Andy_Ross 8th September 2020 04:22 PM

The U.S. Justice Department is seeking to take over the defense of President Donald Trump in a defamation suit brought by advice columnist E. Jean Carroll, who claims Trump raped her two decades ago.

Quote:

The move could further delay a suit in which Carroll is demanding potentially damaging evidence from Trump during the final weeks before the presidential election, including a deposition and a DNA sample to compare to a dress she claims she was wearing at the time of the alleged attack. It could also leave taxpayers on the hook for any damages awarded in the case.
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/a...arroll-lawsuit

Stacyhs 8th September 2020 04:27 PM

Since when is the US Dept of Justice the personal lawyers for Trump in a civil lawsuit for something that is unconnected to and before Trump was even the POTUS?

Minoosh 8th September 2020 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13216454)
Trump Tweets

Because of the China Virus, my Campaign, which has raised a lot of money, was forced to spend in order to counter the Fake News reporting about the way we handled it (China Ban, etc.). We did, and are doing, a GREAT job, and have a lot of money left over, much more than 2016....

....Like I did in the 2016 Primaries, if more money is needed, which I doubt it will be, I will put it up!

This is too perfect. Trump having to spend money to counteract someone else's lies.

Please God, I hope everyone on his campaign is siphoning off funds into their personal accounts while they still can.

Minoosh 8th September 2020 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13216603)
Trump Tweets

Sleepy Joe Biden has pledged to ABOLISH Suburban Communites as they currently exist by reinstating Obama’s radical AFFH Regulation. There goes Suburbia!

JFC! He's not blowing a dog whistle, he's banging a ******* gong.

Stacyhs 8th September 2020 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minoosh (Post 13216906)
JFC! He's not blowing a dog whistle, he's banging a ******* gong.

Hide your daughters! Hide your wives!

Paul2 8th September 2020 04:54 PM

I just heard that Ta’nehesi Coates said that Trump is The U.S.’ “first white president.”

:D :thumbsup:

That’s a riff on B. Clinton being the nations’ first black president.

seayakin 8th September 2020 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 13216580)
I can guarantee he will not spend a cent of his own money for his campaign. Oh, he will probably come up with a promise to match all donations, but then he won't contribute at all.

No he will make inkind donations from his properties at highly inflated rates. All events of course held at Trump properties.

Matthew Ellard 8th September 2020 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solitaire (Post 13216488)
At a loss of 600 million a year and out 100 million, for a total of $2.5 billion, he literally cannot afford to win this one.

In January to March 2020, it was reported that the Trump Organisation was attempting to buy One America News Network (OANN) for less than $250,000,000 however the negotiations seemed to have ended without success.
https://www.salon.com/2020/05/06/don...wn-fox-report/

That suggests two things. Firstly that the Trumps are preparing to operate an extreme conservative news network as they perceive they will lose the election.

Secondly, that Trump may spend his own money and Trump PAC revenue for the dual purpose of election campaigning and establishing the Trumps as the bastions of conservative information to allow them to operate an extreme conservative news network if they lose the election....if it is cheaper than Trump spending $250 million to acquire OANN

I simply suggest this could be on the cards and I imagine the Murdoch family will try prevent this as it will dilute Fox News advertising revenue. I imagine Fox will extend the moratorium on Fox News talking heads accepting positions at a competitive network, after termination, so the Trumps don't acquire them for OANN and yet Fox News can sack its pro-Trump talking heads when their views become redundant.

Ladewig 8th September 2020 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minoosh (Post 13216345)
I don't know if the reports about his campaign being broke are true, but I sure would like to think that the smart money is no longer willing to pour millions into his campaign coffers. I'd love to see him playing defense from now until November.

And now he's blasting top military brass, which I just don't see as a winning position. Remember Sarah Huckabee Sanders defending John Kelly as a 4-star general? I don't know why Trump's picking a fight with him; he hasn't even said anything but his silence is kind of telling.

Why the heck is Trump attacking military spending on weapons systems etc.? Isn't he the one constantly pushing for increased military spending? Is his plan to have the military available as his own private police force in the U.S.?

DJT has never displayed any rationality. If he thinks the top Pentagon officials were somehow involved in the dead-soldiers-are-losers stories, then they must be punished. And because he has neither breadth of knowledge, creativity, nor an understanding of how people with normal emotions deal with life, the only way he can attack them is to call them stupid babies (which he has already done) or accuse them of things he has been accused of. Therefore, they must be accused of being in the pocket of the weapons manufacturers.

I suspect a number of senators considered standing just offstage saying “Sir, sir, ixnay on criticizing the military obbylay.” But they have learned that (a) President Whackadoodle attacks people who try to help him understand Washington and (b) Pig Latin is far beyond the abilities of the stablest genius in history.

SezMe 8th September 2020 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13216200)
Trump Tweets

Fredo’s got a convicted lier for a lawyer, who may be going back to jail for an even longer time - additional lies to Congress. Many more tapes of him with Fredo and other media scum reporters. Reveals how deranged & sick they all are!

Who is 'Fredo'? Cohen?


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:03 AM.

Powered by vBulletin. Copyright ©2000 - 2023, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© 2015-22, TribeTech AB. All Rights Reserved.