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Craig4 1st October 2020 11:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13243418)
Fox is clearly looking for a way to abandon the USS Trump.
They seem to have gotten the marching orders to draw the line at White Supremacy.
You don't really think that Paul Ryan left the House to spend more time with his family do you? He left to take a job on the board at Fox News so he could wait for Trump in the tall grass.

Andy_Ross 1st October 2020 11:50 AM
Trump requires food aid boxes to come with a letter from him

Quote:
The Agriculture Department last week began mandating that millions of boxes of surplus food for needy families include a letter from President Donald Trump claiming credit for the program.

The USDA’s $4 billion Farmers to Families Food Box Program has distributed more than 100 million boxes to those in need since May, with the aim of redirecting meat, dairy and produce that might normally go to restaurants and other food-service businesses. But organizations handing out the aid complain the program is now being used to bolster Trump’s image a month before a high-stakes election — and some even have refused to distribute them.

“In my 30 years of doing this work, I've never seen something this egregious,” said Lisa Hamler-Fugitt, executive director of the Ohio Association of Food Banks. "These are federally purchased boxes.”

The letter comes in both English and Spanish on White House letterhead and features Trump’s bold signature: “As President, safeguarding the health and well-being of our citizens is one of my highest priorities,” it reads. “As part of our response to coronavirus, I prioritized sending nutritious food from our farmers to families in need throughout America.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...d-boxes-424230

Skeptic Ginger 1st October 2020 11:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lennart Hyland (Post 13243370)
Something in me tells me that is a lie...
The lies are more outrageous than ever. Something tells me Trump has heard he didn't do well in the debate. He already knows he's losing in the polls and his drifting into his fantasy world for comfort is getting worse.

Resume 1st October 2020 11:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13243660)
Trump requires food aid boxes to come with a letter from him



https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...d-boxes-424230
Now, is he just campaigning, or is this another example of his narcissism?

Lurch 1st October 2020 12:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13243250)
At the Duluth rally Trump said "Biden will turn Minnesota into a refugee camp"
In a state with one of the largest Somali populations in the country,
Trump goaded the crowd in to booing refugees and "lock her up!" chants directed at Ilhan Omar.

Also "I'm not doing well in the suburbs. Are you people crazy"
He claimed that Biden will destroy the suburbs by "abolishing single-family zoning"

Back to his Nobel nomination
"They covered one story, it was about rain, these people are sick"

"Now I understand he's canceling the debates"
Trump is just totally making stuff up. Biden has not canceled either of the two remaining debates.

"What are they gonna do when in 8, 12, maybe 16 years I say, 'let's hang it up'? 16 more years."

On to the wall.
"Mexico is paying for it. You do know that, right? They keep saying it is going to be a border charge at the border."

"A man came up to me. A tough man. A man who, a worker, a construction worker. Real worker, and he looked at me, this is two years ago, he said, 'Sir, you have given us back our life.' And he was crying."

"But if we don't win, I'm never calling you great again" Closing words to voters in Duluth.
Re. that last. He's converging toward his own Hitlerian rantings of revenge on his own People as the end nears.

Horatius 1st October 2020 12:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Resume (Post 13243674)
Now, is he just campaigning, or is this another example of his narcissism?

Is there a difference?

wasapi 1st October 2020 12:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Resume (Post 13243674)
Now, is he just campaigning, or is this another example of his narcissism?
I believe both are true. Cut from the same putrid orange cloth.

Giordano 1st October 2020 01:44 PM
The world has indeed turned upside down! McEnany admitted to and apologized for an error! She admitted to incorrectly stating that Barrett had received a Rhodes scholarship whereas Barrett had actually simply attended Rhodes College.

Just a mistake but I don’t recall any other wrong statement that McEnany ever backed down from. Maybe it’s because she and not Donald made the original error. I can only imagine the terror in which Trump holds his staff!

MRC_Hans 1st October 2020 01:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wasapi (Post 13243725)
I believe both are true. Cut from the same putrid orange cloth.
I agree. What really means anything to Trump is how it supports his ego. The DEMs could exploit this, but I fear they are not going to do it. Either they are too sleepy, or it is below their honor. In either case, it's a shame.

Hans

alfaniner 1st October 2020 02:05 PM
As we get closer to the election, I suspect his lies will get even bigger, until we get to the biggest one of all, bar none. Come November 2, the last thing we'll hear will be something like "...And I'll see to it that every single person in the United States gets a million dollars! It's true! Vote for me, your favorite President, Donald Trump!

TragicMonkey 1st October 2020 02:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13243660)
Trump requires food aid boxes to come with a letter from him



https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...d-boxes-424230
I'd just automatically assume a box of food with Trump's name on it means you have to pay for it, and it'll be overpriced. Or that the food was poisoned. Or both.

TragicMonkey 1st October 2020 02:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 13243866)
As we get closer to the election, I suspect his lies will get even bigger, until we get to the biggest one of all, bar none. Come November 2, the last thing we'll hear will be something like "...And I'll see to it that every single person in the United States gets a million dollars! It's true! Vote for me, your favorite President, Donald Trump!
And then it turns out to be coupons for a "million dollar hug" from a Trump. And it'd be Eric. Ugh. I'm not saying he's definitely a weasel vampire, but I'm not not saying it, either.

pgwenthold 1st October 2020 02:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Giordano (Post 13243839)
The world has indeed turned upside down! McEnany admitted to and apologized for an error! She admitted to incorrectly stating that Barrett had received a Rhodes scholarship whereas Barrett had actually simply attended Rhodes College.

Just a mistake but I don’t recall any other wrong statement that McEnany ever backed down from. Maybe it’s because she and not Donald made the original error. I can only imagine the terror in which Trump holds his staff!
I was hearing about this today and saw that the Rhodes Scholar thing was mentioned in FoxNews on Sept 25.

When did she say it?

I am trying to sort out, did she get it from Fox or did they get it from her?

Btw, the reporter that drilled her today on "what river?" was from Fox News Radio. It's clear to everyone that Trump is a blowhole

Andy_Ross 1st October 2020 02:44 PM
Trump Tweeted

Thank you!
Quote Tweet

Team Trump (Text VOTE to 88022)
@TeamTrump
In Joe Biden's America, we'd all be in danger.
Joe Biden does not have the backs of our police officers.

Andy_Ross 1st October 2020 02:47 PM
Trump Retweeted

David J Harris Jr
@DavidJHarrisJr
These are her own constituents.
Trump Supporters at Minnesota Rally Chant ‘Lock Her Up!’ When Trump Mentions Ilhan Omar
On Wednesday, President Donald Trump's supporters started a "lock her up" chant about Representative Ilhan Omar (D-MN) as the president warned of the dangers of allowing refugees to resettle in Minnesota.
djhjmedia.com

Anyone else tired of the lies?
Chris Wallace of @foxnewssunday should be ashamed of himself!
RT so America knows the truth!
#TrumpIsARacist my ass!

Andy_Ross 1st October 2020 02:48 PM
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Safe-Keeper 1st October 2020 02:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TragicMonkey (Post 13243872)
And then it turns out to be coupons for a "million dollar hug" from a Trump. And it'd be Eric. Ugh. I'm not saying he's definitely a weasel vampire, but I'm not not saying it, either.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...64f38a848c.jpg

Andy_Ross 1st October 2020 02:51 PM
Trump Retweeted

John Solomon
@jsolomonReports
Breaking: Senate report slams Bidens for conflicts of interest, flags possible criminal activity. GOP-led investigation cites evidence of Burisma bribe, suspicious foreign money transfers and sex trafficking.

Gregg Jarrett
@GreggJarrett
Extortion, Bribery and Sex Trafficking: The Truth about Hunter Biden - Gregg Jarrett
A year-long Senate investigation into Hunter Biden’s foreign handlings concluded just 41 days before the election, leaving Republicans with some major leverage over Biden’s campaign.
thegreggjarrett.com

Hunter Biden Report Bombshell: Biden Was Briefed About Son, Caused Problems In Obama White House -...
In a bombshell report, Fox News contributor Molly Hemingway explains Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden has “not spoken accurately about his knowledge of his son’s involvement in Burisma.”
thegreggjarrett.com

Andy_Ross 1st October 2020 03:06 PM
Trump Tweets

I will be overturning this ridiculous order immediately!

The Columbia Bugle Flag of United States
@ColumbiaBugle
Drain the Pentagon Swamp!

Breaking911
@Breaking911
Navy SEALs change official ethos to be gender neutral, remove ‘brotherhood’ and 'man' - @AmerMilNews

GlennB 1st October 2020 03:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StillSleepy (Post 13243600)
It would be off-brand. From the other side of the table, it's merely Trump "telling it like it is" or "just being honest" and a demonstration of strength, the same with talking over his opposition. The underlying theme of Trump's support is a vicarious power trip by proxy for the naively cynical, where virtually nothing matters beyond the expansion and exercise of power to further the appearance and ends of the "powerful" or "righteous." That crowd won't complain until it affects them, and even then they'll do their best to find something else to blame rather than risk being separated from their herd, consciously or not.
It was never put better than this.

Andy_Ross 1st October 2020 03:27 PM
Trump Retweeted

Greg Kelly
@gregkellyusa
White House Correspondents, 9 out of 10 of them, are shallow and silly—-with Zero historical sense. They are outclassed in every way (especially intellectually) by this @PressSec⁩, @kayleighmcenany⁩, another stunning performance today: 10/1/20

Andy_Ross 1st October 2020 03:31 PM
Trump Retweeted

Buck Sexton
@BuckSexton
It’s obvious that the media’s plan is to bury us all in an avalanche of lies and lunatic conspiracy theories in the hopes that Americans don’t notice they’re running a phony and a mediocrity for the presidency

Ned Ryun
@nedryun
"The riots were never a popular uprising; rather, they were always the work of elite Democrats: That is, state and local Democratic officials who permitted, even egged on, the rioting; the Democratic media which looked the other way."

Andy_Ross 1st October 2020 04:23 PM
I love the smell of Trumps fear in the afternoon, it's the smell of victory.

Stacyhs 1st October 2020 04:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13244023)
I love the smell of Trumps fear in the afternoon, it's the smell of victory.
That's the smell of his wet Depends.

Aridas 1st October 2020 04:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13243253)
There is an argument I find somewhat (not completely but somewhat) comforting.

The "Right" will not engage in a mass uprising if Trump loses because evolutions/uprisings happen when a people are truly desperate. The "Right" is not truly desperate. They can go on about how there way of life is ending and that all is lost if the Democrats get in power but then they go home to their houses and sleep in their warm comfortable beds and watch TV. People don't go all Red Dawn when they do that.

David Wong (yeah, yeah I'm bringing him up again) mentioned that when he was growing up his family belong to a church where every Sunday the pastor would go on and on about how any day now the "Evil Godless Liberals" would round up all the good God fearing real Americans and everyone nodded and agreed... and then when church let out they didn't go out and buy ammo and prepare for widespread guerilla warfare, they to the Old Country Buffet for lunch and then went home to watch the Bears game.
Indeed. This is fairly similar to the "race war" push by the Boogaloo crowd. There's just no real appetite for it in the general public - rather, it's more reasonable to expect a bunch of domestic terrorism to be incited by a tiny minority.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13243418)
Fox is clearly looking for a way to abandon the USS Trump.
They seem to have gotten the marching orders to draw the line at White Supremacy.
Ehh... Highly doubtful, on both points. Fox is more likely to be momentarily distancing themselves, at best, while they listen to the way the wind's going. As for drawing the line at White Supremacy? Pfft. Fox may balk at open endorsing of White Supremacy, but mainly because they've been working for a long time to create and prop up at least a thin veneer of plausible deniability for much of the right to grasp onto while feeding it at various levels.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 13243638)
You don't really think that Paul Ryan left the House to spend more time with his family do you? He left to take a job on the board at Fox News so he could wait for Trump in the tall grass.
I'd be more inclined to think that Paul Ryan took a step back after horrible polling and advice that it would be smarter for him to just step down then if he wanted to become President later. I don't see it as all that likely that he's specifically working to ambush Trump with Fox News, honestly.

newyorkguy 1st October 2020 04:41 PM
Funny thing about the debate performance, former staffers have said, "That was the real donald trump you saw." The one they had to deal with. They say, for starters, when trump arrives in the West Wing he is usually in a foul mood. As in the debate, he talks over everyone at staff meetings, refuses to listen to anything he doesn't already agree with. The reason why a former staffer said, "You have no idea how difficult it is to tell president trump something he doesn't want to hear. He just refuses to listen."

Look at the list of people who worked for him and then quit. The only people who speak well of him are people who are still on his payroll.

Skeptic Ginger 1st October 2020 04:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13243927)
Trump Retweeted

David J Harris Jr
@DavidJHarrisJr
These are her own constituents.
Trump Supporters at Minnesota Rally Chant ‘Lock Her Up!’ When Trump Mentions Ilhan Omar
On Wednesday, President Donald Trump's supporters started a "lock her up" chant about Representative Ilhan Omar (D-MN) as the president warned of the dangers of allowing refugees to resettle in Minnesota.
djhjmedia.com

Anyone else tired of the lies?
Chris Wallace of @foxnewssunday should be ashamed of himself!
RT so America knows the truth!
#TrumpIsARacist my ass!
An ethnic minority and a woman, a twofur.

I did some more looking into the O'Keefe video, it's a fake as an eight dollar bill.

Sahan Journal: How did an August primary election in Minneapolis turn into a national right-wing disinformation campaign against absentee ballots?
Quote:
Allegations of voter fraud in Minneapolis took right-wing media by storm Sunday night. They stem from a report by Project Veritas, a video sting operation led by Republican provocateur James O’Keefe.

Project Veritas’ latest stunt exposé accuses Ilhan Omar’s campaign of “ballot harvesting”: a mail-in ballot practice—often legal—that occurs when a third party collects election ballots from voters and submits them to election judges. Various anonymous sources describe collecting ballots from elders in the local Somali community during August’s primary election.

The report, which is clouded with muddled and unsubstantiated information, ....
You can read the details at the site if you're interested in your own opinion. Don't let my POV distort your POV. But the scam is pretty transparent.

Of course Trump voters don't care so push back on this if/when you can.

Aridas 1st October 2020 04:57 PM
Ahh. Just to to poke at the Proud Boys -

This is fairly certainly something that everyone should watch to understand them a little better, given their leader's words.

Warning, it's not pretty.

Stacyhs 1st October 2020 06:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aridas (Post 13244060)
Fake news. I'm sure it's a doctored video. :rolleyes:

Segnosaur 1st October 2020 06:48 PM
I feel an overwhelming sense of sympathy.....

Nope, wait a second. It was just gas.

From: CBC
Hope Hicks, one of U.S. President Donald Trump's closest aides, has tested positive for the coronavirus.
...
Hicks travelled with the president multiple times this week, including on Marine One, the presidential helicopter, for a Minnesota rally Wednesday, and aboard Air Force One to Tuesday night's first presidential debate.

Hard to have any sympathy for people responsible for helping Stubby McBonespurs win elections, considering the number of people who have died because of their actions.

(I debated whether I should put this in the Covid19 thread, but I put it here because of the close association between Trump and Hicks.)

Stacyhs 1st October 2020 06:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Segnosaur (Post 13244148)
I feel an overwhelming sense of sympathy.....

Nope, wait a second. It was just gas.

From: CBC
Hope Hicks, one of U.S. President Donald Trump's closest aides, has tested positive for the coronavirus.
...
Hicks travelled with the president multiple times this week, including on Marine One, the presidential helicopter, for a Minnesota rally Wednesday, and aboard Air Force One to Tuesday night's first presidential debate.

Hard to have any sympathy for people responsible for helping Stubby McBonespurs win elections, considering the number of people who have died because of their actions.

(I debated whether I should put this in the Covid19 thread, but I put it here because of the close association between Trump and Hicks.)
Dare I say it? I hope she's having an affair with him.

acbytesla 1st October 2020 06:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13244149)
Dare I say it? I hope she's having an affair with him.
Wouldn't it be interesting to see Trump come down with COVID in the next few days? Wonder how that would affect the election?

Stacyhs 1st October 2020 06:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by acbytesla (Post 13244151)
Wouldn't it be interesting to see Trump come down with COVID in the next few days? Wonder how that would affect the election?
I would never wish Covid on anyone. I'd make an exception for Trump.

Segnosaur 1st October 2020 07:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13244155)
I would never wish Covid on anyone. I'd make an exception for Trump.
What about Moscow Mitch? What about the army of Trump enablers in congress and his administration? Steven Miller? Steve Bannon? Trump is only able to do the things he does because people in the GOP let him.

acbytesla 1st October 2020 07:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13244155)
I would never wish Covid on anyone. I'd make an exception for Trump.
200,000 plus people have died because of that SOB. Maybe a wakeup call would have an effect.

Norman Alexander 1st October 2020 07:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by acbytesla (Post 13244159)
200,000 plus people have died because of that SOB. Maybe a wakeup call would have an effect. What's one more, then? It is what it is.
Helping.

alfaniner 1st October 2020 07:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by acbytesla (Post 13244151)
Wouldn't it be interesting to see Trump come down with COVID in the next few days? Wonder how that would affect the election?
If he dies from it? Quite a bit, I'd think.

wasapi 1st October 2020 07:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by acbytesla (Post 13244151)
Wouldn't it be interesting to see Trump come down with COVID in the next few days? Wonder how that would affect the election?
I feel that way, and have .said it before, but it seems that he is at high risk

acbytesla 1st October 2020 07:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 13244176)
If he dies from it? Quite a bit, I'd think.
Certainly. But what if Trump is hospitalized two weeks from now? What does that do to the election?

alfaniner 1st October 2020 07:46 PM
You know what? It's taken a very short time, but I am willing to entertain the possibility that it's all BS -- a constructed distraction from the disastrous debate. The POTUS and FLOTUS are now self-quarantining, according to reports.

At this point I don't think it's remotely a conspiracy theory -- in fact I think it's quite likely. Goes to body of work.

acbytesla 1st October 2020 07:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 13244180)
You know what? It's taken a very short time, but I am willing to entertain the possibility that it's all BS -- a constructed distraction from the disastrous debate. The POTUS and FLOTUS are now self-quarantining, according to reports.

At this point I don't think it's remotely a conspiracy theory -- in fact I think it's quite likely. Goes to body of work.
Is it Trump's way of avoiding another debate?

Beelzebuddy 1st October 2020 07:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by acbytesla (Post 13244183)
Is it Trump's way of avoiding another debate?
It's fine, there's mute buttons on Zoom too.

Venom 1st October 2020 07:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 13244180)
You know what? It's taken a very short time, but I am willing to entertain the possibility that it's all BS -- a constructed distraction from the disastrous debate. The POTUS and FLOTUS are now self-quarantining, according to reports.

At this point I don't think it's remotely a conspiracy theory -- in fact I think it's quite likely. Goes to body of work.
I don't see it that way it all. It's a coincidence. Hope Hicks was found to have been exposed to COVID-19. Quarantine the president and first lady just to be safe.

Horatius 1st October 2020 07:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by acbytesla (Post 13244179)
Certainly. But what if Trump is hospitalized two weeks from now? What does that do to the election?

Well, it will certainly be less shouty.

acbytesla 1st October 2020 07:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Venom (Post 13244187)
I don't see it that way it all. It's a coincidence. Hope Hicks was found to have been exposed to COVID-19. Quarantine the president and first lady just to be safe.
Sure. But I thought COVID was a hoax?

Ladewig 1st October 2020 08:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 13244180)
You know what? It's taken a very short time, but I am willing to entertain the possibility that it's all BS -- a constructed distraction from the disastrous debate. The POTUS and FLOTUS are now self-quarantining, according to reports.

At this point I don't think it's remotely a conspiracy theory -- in fact I think it's quite likely. Goes to body of work.
Another plus in the conspiracy-theory theory is that she can quickly “recover” so that Team Trump can point out how harmless it is.

The Atheist 1st October 2020 08:13 PM
Nice of Trump to show whether pre-symptomatic transmission is a thing or not.

It's suspected, but not yet proven.

Plus, he's been on HCQ, so he won't be worried at all.

The Great Zaganza 1st October 2020 08:14 PM
So Trump and his entourage might have passed it to others during the debate?

The Atheist 1st October 2020 08:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aridas (Post 13244060)
Just good, patriotic Americans. I can see that. Even Ann Coulter likes them and she's a good christian virgin. She may give birth to Jesus 2.0 one of these days.

Venom 1st October 2020 08:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13244210)
So Trump and his entourage might have passed it to others during the debate?
The risk is minimal.


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