Millions Of Women In India Join Hands To Form A 385-Mile Wall
NPR: Millions Of Women In India Join Hands To Form A 385-Mile Wall Of Protest
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I don't have CNN or MSNBC anymore. Does anyone know if they covered the event? I've seen the rioting covered as women try to get the right to enter an important temple and extremists men are rioting because of it. Quote:
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India's and China's demographics (due to unintended consequences of family planning policies) mean that there are less women than men, and if you think Incels in the US are bad, oh boy the current issues in China/India are going to make that look tame.
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And polyamory!
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at least someone built a wall. amirite?
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Or maybe misogyny. |
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So, doing the math, all Trump needs is about 25 million Indian women. Shouldn't be a problem for a chick magnet like him!
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Gotta love how theprestige doesn't realize that what CNN covers on air and on their website is, *mild shock*, different. And yet theprestige operated on that incorrect information to make some weird kind of "you're lazy" gotcha. "Durrr... why are we even on a discussion forum when all information could be Googled?" |
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Yeah like abortion has anything at all to do with that. Please keep your pet woo infatuations out of threads where they have no relevance. |
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So perhaps something other than that gender imbalance is responsible. |
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Something to do with this? |
"gender wall demonstration" is a very weird label for it. Just reminds me of the joke that women are "people of gender"
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Search Link People still use Google? |
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Could you find an on-air news clip? I was hoping people who watch CNN could tell us what they saw. |
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As for the impact of a shortage of women, your logic makes zero sense. Women don't have any bargaining weight because men need wives. If anything it's the opposite. In the lower classes their families have to pay for husbands for the girls and some are still being killed because the in-laws don't think the dowry was big enough. Women in India are beginning to assert their rights in many areas. No doubt globalization leads to people all over the world seeing the rights others enjoy and finding like-minded people to join together. In India there have been movements to force the police to arrest rapists and prosecute dowry murderers. This particular movement is connected to the women forcing their way into a prominent Hindu Temple and some extremists men resisting and rioting. The courts ruled in favor of the women and amazingly the police are actually supporting the move. |
One might look at some of the posts in this thread and wonder what it is that has drawn some of our resident right-wingers in. Women's religious rights in India is somehow a right wing issue?
Curious minds want to know. |
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I do think that in spite of how bad things are for women in India, they are getting better, not worse, in general. |
Walls are bad
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In a normally functioning market, the value of a good increases if it becomes more scarce. So from a purely market perspective, one might expect that if women become more scarce, their value as sexual partners should increase, and this should give them more bargaining power. But sexual relations are not simply another market. Women are not always granted bargaining power over their own bodies. Whatever sexual market value increase might be occurring because of the gender imbalance, women are not the beneficiaries. Instead, the extreme mismatch between sexual supply and demand creates a whole host of social pathologies which end up hurting women. Large groups of young men with little prospect for sexual pairing misbehave. They don't start treating women better in hopes of wooing them, they start treating them worse out of resentment. The same effects can be seen in polygamous societies: high-status men with multiple women reduce the available pool for low-status men, creating the same effect that a gender imbalance does. It's no coincidence that polygamous societies are horrible places for women. China and India are on the road to reproducing some of those pathologies. |
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Check out the news reports. |
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I don't doubt that there were men who were outraged and all the crappy stuff that follows from that (hateful rhetoric, violence, etc.) but I'd be shocked if it was exclusively men - after all, it's not like cultural practices and tradition are endorsed and controlled solely by men. |
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Guardian: Protests break out in India after two women enter temple - Court ruling allows women to offer prayers in temple in Kerala after centuries-long ban Quote:
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It's amazing what stories fail to be covered on the MSN. I also get DW: Mass arrests in India amid protests over women entering forbidden Hindu temple Police have detained hundreds in India's Kerala state as Hindu hardliners tried to shut down businesses in protest over the Sabarimala Temple. Meanwhile, another woman entered the shrine of the celibate god Ayyappa. Hardliners are men though I believe there is one woman in one of those photos. Hindu hardliners step up campaign to block Indian temple to women Quote:
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MRA's gonna MRA.
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This is about a gender issue. Women are not dirty because they menstruate. And isolating menstruating women is a male dominant move. You want to discuss it? Let's discuss it. Don't get all snowflakey though about the fact this is about men oppressing women, unlike some of our other debates. |
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