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Wudang 17th November 2020 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GodMark2 (Post 13296758)
It could also include a large number of automatically created 'documents', like surveillance tapes or entry ID scans for different buildings. Or, it could include usually normal, but meaningful in this case, documents like vehicle check-outs, call logs, or time record sheets. Some days at work, I probably create over 50 such 'documents' when I travel to secure customer locations, and some days I visit multiple customers. (Rather, I used to, before the world went virtual)


And possibly "metadata" like chain of evidence information, etc?

Darat 17th November 2020 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey (Post 13296952)
Cops are shooting so many dogs that there are now multiple incidents of cops accidentally shooting people while trying to shoot dogs.

Like how this cop shot and killed a sleeping homeless woman while trying to kill a dog:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...s-b472257.html

or this cop that was covered under qualified immunity after he shot a 10 year old child in the leg while trying to kill a dog:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicksib...h=7d3223f33987

Or two different occasions where a cop shot themselves trying to shoot a dog

https://www.local10.com/news/local/2...y-shoots-self/

https://www.reshareworthy.com/cop-ac...-to-shoot-dog/

Maybe one day cops will learn how to interact with strange dogs without shooting everyone within line of sight. Not sure how mail carriers or kids on bikes manage it.

Thatís because they donít have the extensive training the police have so donít have the fear that every dog is a rabies maddened killer about to rip their throats out!

quadraginta 17th November 2020 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13297775)
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey (Post 13296952)
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Maybe one day cops will learn how to interact with strange dogs without shooting everyone within line of sight. Not sure how mail carriers or kids on bikes manage it.


Thatís because they donít have the extensive training the police have so donít have the fear that every dog is a rabies maddened killer about to rip their throats out!


They also don't normally carry firearms, along with the certainty that they have carte blanche to shoot with impunity anything or anyone that makes them feel "threatened".

Mumbles 21st November 2020 07:36 AM

Hey, remember the March to the Polls event in North Carolina that the cops decided to attack because some people knelt near a statue of slavers?

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Three weeks after two law enforcement agencies used pepper spray to break up a peaceful march to the polls in Graham, N.C., the county sheriff’s office said it would charge the march’s organizer, the Rev. Greg Drumwright, with felony assault on an officer and obstructing justice.

The Alamance County Sheriff’s Office said it has reviewed video of the Oct. 31 rally and alleged that Drumwright, reverend of the Citadel Church in nearby Greensboro, was involved in an “altercation” that left a deputy injured.

Drumwright, founder of the anti-racist coalition Justice 4 the Next Generation, brought two recent lawsuits against Alamance County Sheriff Terry S. Johnson and other local officials. His attorneys say the felony charges were designed to silence him.
Nothing about the Rev. picking up a weapon and beating anyone, or even took a swing: he was "involved" in an altercation that injured an officer. My guess: if they had anything actually violent, as opposed to "Our deputy sprained his elbow flailing at people too hard" or something, they'd say it.

quadraginta 21st November 2020 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mumbles (Post 13301940)
Hey, remember the March to the Polls event in North Carolina that the cops decided to attack because some people knelt near a statue of slavers?



Nothing about the Rev. picking up a weapon and beating anyone, or even took a swing: he was "involved" in an altercation that injured an officer. My guess: if they had anything actually violent, as opposed to "Our deputy sprained his elbow flailing at people too hard" or something, they'd say it.


Terry Johnson is our own, homegrown Joe Arpaio. He's been at it for nearly two decades with the full support of the good (white) folks of Alamance County. The list of his bigoted, racist antics is a long and depressing one. Graham's Police Chief is cut from the same cloth.

JoeMorgue 24th November 2020 07:36 AM

San Francisco officer is charged with on-duty homicide. The DA says it's a first

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(CNN)A former San Francisco Police officer was charged with homicide Monday in connection with a 2017 on-duty shooting. The city's district attorney's office said in a news release that it believes this is the first time a city law enforcement officer has been charged with an on-duty homicide.

Former San Francisco officer Chris Samayoa is charged with fatally shooting 42-year-old Keita O'Neil, a Black man suspected of carjacking a California State Lottery minivan, according to the news release.
CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/24/us/sa...ges/index.html

Darat 25th November 2020 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13305036)
San Francisco officer is charged with on-duty homicide. The DA says it's a first



CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/24/us/sa...ges/index.html

.... Although Samayoa did not turn his body camera on until after the shooting, the release said, the camera still captured the shooting because of an automatic buffering system....

Would have loved to see his face when he realised he hadn't circumvented the on body camera.

ponderingturtle 25th November 2020 01:28 PM

"Now Welsh, a 76-year-old Republican who left office last year after two decades as sheriff, has been charged with theft for an alleged scheme to charge taxpayers for volunteer work benefiting a K-9 unit. Welsh’s boyfriend, Harry McKinney, a former officer in the department, is also charged with using donations to the K-9 unit to pay his personal expenses.

“Bunny Welsh used her position of power for her and her partner Harry McKinney’s own personal gain instead of serving her community as she was elected to do,” Pennsylvania Democratic Attorney General Josh Shapiro said in a statement to The Philadelphia Inquirer."

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-...ed-with-theft/

SuburbanTurkey 3rd December 2020 08:51 AM

Serial killer pro tip:

You can get away multiple murders for decades if you just kill people cops don't give a **** about.

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Little targeted marginalized women, many of them women of color, and the FBI has admitted that many of the murder cases they’ve linked to Little were not just unsolved, but barely investigated; some of his victims haven’t even been identified. And although Little, a former competitive boxer, usually beat his victims and then strangled them while masturbating, according to the FBI, “many of these deaths were not classified as homicides but attributed to drug overdoses, accidents, or natural causes.”
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...urders-762018/

Trebuchet 3rd December 2020 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey (Post 13313690)
Serial killer pro tip:

You can get away multiple murders for decades if you just kill people cops don't give a **** about.



https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...urders-762018/

Much like Robert Picton in British Columbia. Targeted prostitutes and druggies, especially women of color and First Nations; cops didn't much care for a long time.

Matthew Best 9th December 2020 02:52 AM

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/08/u...son/index.html

A sheriff's deputy working for a fugitive task force shot and killed a Black man trying to enter his own home in Columbus, Ohio, last week in a case that is now being investigated by federal authorities.

Casey Goodson, 23, was fatally shot on Friday by a 17-year veteran of the Franklin County Sheriff's Office, identified as deputy Jason Meade. Meade was working for the US Marshal's fugitive task force looking for violent offenders at the time, but Goodson was not the person being sought by the task force, Columbus Police said.
Goodson had put his keys into his door before he was shot and fell into the kitchen, where his 5-year-old brother and his 72-year-old grandmother saw him lying on the ground with a Subway sandwich, family attorney Sean Walton told CNN.

Aridas 9th December 2020 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Best (Post 13320406)
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/08/u...son/index.html

A sheriff's deputy working for a fugitive task force shot and killed a Black man trying to enter his own home in Columbus, Ohio, last week in a case that is now being investigated by federal authorities.

Casey Goodson, 23, was fatally shot on Friday by a 17-year veteran of the Franklin County Sheriff's Office, identified as deputy Jason Meade. Meade was working for the US Marshal's fugitive task force looking for violent offenders at the time, but Goodson was not the person being sought by the task force, Columbus Police said.
Goodson had put his keys into his door before he was shot and fell into the kitchen, where his 5-year-old brother and his 72-year-old grandmother saw him lying on the ground with a Subway sandwich, family attorney Sean Walton told CNN.

I guess that sandwich was just to die for.

:(

Darat 9th December 2020 04:35 AM

That's a strange one, he's a 17 year veteran so must have got his tattoo by now. Wonder why he shot him? Have they got a Christmas pool running?

bluesjnr 9th December 2020 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13320451)
That's a strange one, he's a 17 year veteran so must have got his tattoo by now. Wonder why he shot him? Have they got a Christmas pool running?

This shouldn't be as funny as it is. Tragicomic.

Wudang 9th December 2020 07:48 AM

Maybe he was a celiac and had a reasonable (for special values of reasonable) that he might have been pounced on and force fed a sandwich? I’ve heard dafter defences.

pgwenthold 9th December 2020 09:17 AM

I was reading this morning (no link, sorry) about a guy who got arrested because he had the same first and last names (but different middle) of a guy who had a warrant.

He was arrested when they called an ambulance to the house (don't know for what) and in the course of sending the ambulance, they checked for outstanding warrants. Because, you know, that matters.

They knocked him around for a while as he denied that he was the guy they were looking for, and he noted that his middle name was not the same as that guy. At some point, he struck a martial arts pose to defend himself.

Ultimately, after knocking him around for a while, they finally did figure out that they had the wrong guy. So they arrested him for interfering with the activities of an officer, because he resisted their attempts to arrest him incorrectly.

ponderingturtle 9th December 2020 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 13320704)
I was reading this morning (no link, sorry) about a guy who got arrested because he had the same first and last names (but different middle) of a guy who had a warrant.

He was arrested when they called an ambulance to the house (don't know for what) and in the course of sending the ambulance, they checked for outstanding warrants. Because, you know, that matters.

They knocked him around for a while as he denied that he was the guy they were looking for, and he noted that his middle name was not the same as that guy. At some point, he struck a martial arts pose to defend himself.

Ultimately, after knocking him around for a while, they finally did figure out that they had the wrong guy. So they arrested him for interfering with the activities of an officer, because he resisted their attempts to arrest him incorrectly.

This is similar though it the particulars are different. Seems that police can't tell a 25 year old from a 53 year old.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...es/1385397002/

They even went so far as to get him indicted by the grand jury.

pgwenthold 9th December 2020 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ponderingturtle (Post 13320724)
This is similar though it the particulars are different. Seems that police can't tell a 25 year old from a 53 year old.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...es/1385397002/

They even went so far as to get him indicted by the grand jury.

Here's the story

https://www.cjonline.com/news/202012...er-punched-him

erlando 9th December 2020 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13320451)
That's a strange one, he's a 17 year veteran so must have got his tattoo by now. Wonder why he shot him? Have they got a Christmas pool running?

He lost his badge and needs new kills in order to bend the points of the star on the new one?

SuburbanTurkey 15th December 2020 06:25 PM

Police raid wrong address and handcuff naked woman at gunpoint.

Bodycam footage shows the squad of police armed with rifles and battering rams quickly break in the door and invade the social worker's home. She is naked in clearly in a panic, but she is handcuffed and questioned. Turns out to be the wrong address. This easily could have ended in a random innocent person being shot dead in their home by the militarized police.

Cops and the city refused to turn over bodycam footage until ordered by a court. The city unsuccessfully filed an emergency motion to prevent the news from running the footage.

This raid by heavily armed police was predicated on the unsubstantiated claim by a confidential informant, a common practice that routinely leads to baseless searches.

Of course, the first instinct of the entire system is to suppress evidence of wrongdoing.

ACAB.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/12...mpression=true

Random 16th December 2020 07:06 AM

You left out the part where the guy they were looking for was in a different apartment in the same building. Under house arrest. With a tracking anklet.

erlando 17th December 2020 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Random (Post 13328061)
You left out the part where the guy they were looking for was in a different apartment in the same building. Under house arrest. With a tracking anklet.

I thought you were kidding. Alas you were not...

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But CBS 2 quickly found, through police and court records, the informant gave police the wrong address. The 23-year-old suspect police were looking for actually lived in the unit next door to Young at the time of the raid and had no connection to her.

CBS 2 also found police could have easily tracked the suspectís location and where he really lived because at the time of the raid, he was wearing an electronic monitoring device.
What the actual ****?! There is so much wrong with this incident. But I'm sure cop apologists will be around any minute to tell us why it's ok to treat innocent citizens like this.

Aridas 17th December 2020 02:58 AM

Because it seems relevant to this thread...

Scathing Report Reveals Minneapolis Police Dept.'s Ineffectual Disciplining Of Problem Officers

To poke at a snippet also quoted there...

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In the warrior cop ethos, officers have to protect each other from all danger including unfair censure from Internal Affairs, civilian oversight panels, politicians and the press, who just don’t understand the job.

“When I’m on the street and I’m in uniform, everybody’s got to have my back because I could be the next one at the end of someone’s gun,” said Gerold, the retired police commander. “And there’s something that starts to happen that crosses the line into not telling the truth … It’s a problem, and I don’t have a good answer for it.”

The blue wall of silence also extends to some sergeants and lieutenants, members of the same union as the rank-and-file but whom they are supposed to be holding accountable.

Darat 17th December 2020 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Aridas (Post 13329030)
Because it seems relevant to this thread...

Scathing Report Reveals Minneapolis Police Dept.'s Ineffectual Disciplining Of Problem Officers

To poke at a snippet also quoted there...

"ďAnd thereís something that starts to happen that crosses the line into not telling the truth Ö Itís a problem, and I donít have a good answer for it.Ē"

Has he considered the revolutionary idea that is known as "telling the truth"?

:rolleyes:

erlando 18th December 2020 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13329085)
"ďAnd thereís something that starts to happen that crosses the line into not telling the truth Ö Itís a problem, and I donít have a good answer for it.Ē"

Has he considered the revolutionary idea that is known as "telling the truth"?

:rolleyes:

Also maybe not teaching the cops ******** such as "The warrior cop ethos"

SuburbanTurkey 18th December 2020 05:26 AM

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A Minneapolis cop told Somali American teens he was proud U.S. troops killed ‘you folk’ during Black Hawk Down. The police union fought to keep his job anyway.


“Do you remember what happened in Black Hawk Down when we killed a bunch of you folk? I’m proud of that,” Officer Weber said.

“We didn’t finish the job over there, ‘cause if we had finished the job, you guys wouldn’t be over here right now,” Weber added.
Just a white cop explaining to black teens under arrest that the US military should have killed more Somalis when they had the chance.

https://sahanjournal.com/police/minn...somali-teens/?

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“You’re racist, bro,” said one of the teens.

“Yep, and I’m proud of it,” Weber replied.
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There were five other officers present at the scene. To varying extents, these officers conceded that they’d observed and heard the incident—but made little of them. Park Police officer John Archer, for example, said he “thought the comments were strange and made him laugh,” according to the investigative reports.
Strange, none of these other good cops heard anything, and the union tried to sue to get this POS back on the job.

ACAB.

ponderingturtle 18th December 2020 08:53 AM

It is apparently SOP to run suspects over with a truck. Who knew?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ly/3942399001/

erlando 20th December 2020 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ponderingturtle (Post 13330370)
It is apparently SOP to run suspects over with a truck. Who knew?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ly/3942399001/

"I felt I was in danger, so I ran for my life".

The instinct was right. Just too bad that only cops get to use the "I feared for my life" excuse.

Seeing the cop's body shape running him over was just about the only way he could catch him... :rolleyes:

Mumbles 23rd December 2020 03:33 PM

Latest relevent news: First, from ABC, studies find that shifting military surplus to local police does not reduce crime.

Um, no shock there. What it's almost entirely used for appears to be stomping down protestors - or rather, attempting to do so. Yet again, a large number of riots have been caused directly by police overreacting to nonviolent protestors with mass violence.

Second, here's a case of a cop attacking a man in handcuffs - the tweet gives it away, but a round of applause for *some* of the police here.

SuburbanTurkey 24th December 2020 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mumbles (Post 13335818)
Latest relevent news: First, from ABC, studies find that shifting military surplus to local police does not reduce crime.

Um, no shock there. What it's almost entirely used for appears to be stomping down protestors - or rather, attempting to do so. Yet again, a large number of riots have been caused directly by police overreacting to nonviolent protestors with mass violence.

Second, here's a case of a cop attacking a man in handcuffs - the tweet gives it away, but a round of applause for *some* of the police here.

Pretty sure the guy that gets arrested is not a cop, but rather a security guard.

The "Officer" patch on his uniform is a dead giveaway. Security guards often creep up to the line of impersonating police with their uniforms, but often there are giveaways like this. They aren't arresting their own here.

bluesjnr 24th December 2020 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey (Post 13336312)
Pretty sure the guy that gets arrested is not a cop, but rather a security guard.

The "Officer" patch on his uniform is a dead giveaway. Security guards often creep up to the line of impersonating police with their uniforms, but often there are giveaways like this. They aren't arresting their own here.

My thoughts exactly.

Captain_Swoop 24th December 2020 12:23 PM

Watch: Texas man files lawsuit against police who pepper sprayed him for filming his son’s arrest

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In the Dallas/Fort Worth area, two officers for the Keller Police Department are facing a lawsuit filed by a man who was pepper sprayed while filming his son's arrest on August 15.

The man filing the lawsuit, according to Complex.com, is Marco Puente, who is suing officers Ankit Tomer and Blake Shimanek. On August 15, those officers arrested Puente's son, 22-year-old Dylan Puente, after seeing him make a wide turn. A video of the younger Puente's arrest shows the officers ordering him to exit his car; Dylan Puente cooperated and was handcuffed.

Pulling up in his truck, Marco Puente asked Tomer and Shimanek why his son was being arrested — and the offers threatened to arrest him as well for obstructing the street with his vehicle.

Marco Puente, after parking his truck, continued to film the incident with his smartphone — which the officers didn't like. And when Tomer and Shimanek arrested Marco Puente, he was handcuffed and pepper sprayed.
(Video in link)

https://www.rawstory.com/cop-attacking-man/

bruto 24th December 2020 12:48 PM

And meanwhile today's paper has a story about a Columbus Ohio officer who shot and killed a man visiting friends, as he emerged from the garage holding a cell phone. The cop's body cam was off, because, supposedly, the call that summoned him was a non-emergency call, but the body cam showed video anyway though no sound (apparently the people manufacturing these things have cottoned on to the fact that cops won't turn them on, so they turn themselves on). When he switched it on partway through, he's shown cussing the body in the driveway for not complying with his demands as he lay groaning and dying. He was, of course, unarmed. The call that brought the cop was an anonymous one expressing concern that there was a car idling in the area, and the caller was afraid to investigate because he didn't have a gun. The officer arrived, and six seconds later his victim was dying in the driveway. At last report there was no certainty that the idling vehicle had anything to do with him.

Nessie 24th December 2020 01:35 PM

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2...deo-goes-viral

"A video that went viral on social media Wednesday shows Harvey cops arresting a PACE security guard who “sucker punched” a handcuffed man standing on the street, officials allege."

The video is trending on twitter as cops arresting another cop. Not quite right, but still, good on them.

SuburbanTurkey 26th December 2020 02:29 PM

Prince William county sheriff's office's "human interaction specialist," deputy Aaron Hoffman, was fired today after being exposed espousing fascist, violent propaganda on social media.

Hoffman was doxxed by semi-famous online activist Molly Conger, who found his poorly hidden social media accounts where he was interacting with fascist Proud Boys and calling for the murder of liberal politicians, judges, nurses, and so on. He also assured Proud Boys that himself and other police officers would be on their side in hypothetical future fascist violence.


Seems like a fast turnaround for our fascist friendly cop, Molly posted the info Christmas day and he was fired on the 26th.

Odds are good he ends up at some other nearby department, but at least some fascist had his Christmas ruined.

https://twitter.com/socialistdogmom/...27110290219008

erlando 30th December 2020 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey (Post 13338211)
Prince William county sheriff's office's "human interaction specialist," deputy Aaron Hoffman, was fired today after being exposed espousing fascist, violent propaganda on social media.

Hoffman was doxxed by semi-famous online activist Molly Conger, who found his poorly hidden social media accounts where he was interacting with fascist Proud Boys and calling for the murder of liberal politicians, judges, nurses, and so on. He also assured Proud Boys that himself and other police officers would be on their side in hypothetical future fascist violence.


Seems like a fast turnaround for our fascist friendly cop, Molly posted the info Christmas day and he was fired on the 26th.

Odds are good he ends up at some other nearby department, but at least some fascist had his Christmas ruined.

https://twitter.com/socialistdogmom/...27110290219008

Parler seems like such a "nice" place... :boggled:

smartcooky 30th December 2020 04:01 AM

Two Louisville cops involved in the murder of Breanna Taylor are to be fired

Detective Myles Cosgrove, one of the officers who fire the fatal shots
Detective Joshua Jaynes, who prepared the search warrant for the raid

Earlier in the year, Detective Brett Hankinson was fired for "violating the departmentís deadly force policy by shooting off 10 rounds from outside the apartment through two of Ms. Taylorís windows"

JoeMorgue 30th December 2020 07:43 AM

Police K9 shot, killed by own handler.

"Nico" a police K9 unit was shot by Patrol Officer Keith Larson, his handler since August 2019, after the dog reportedly clamped down on the officer's hand and refused to let go.

Local10 Boston: https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local...-mass/2267949/

Armitage72 30th December 2020 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey (Post 13330203)
Just a white cop explaining to black teens under arrest that the US military should have killed more Somalis when they had the chance.


This reminds me of an account I saw long ago, of a group of Neo-Nazi's watching a documentary about the Holocaust which included survivors talking about their experiences in the camps. They joked about how it was a too bad that "those had gotten away".

chrispy 1st January 2021 12:10 PM

I just can't even... I'll just leave this one here. Absolutely shocking stuff.

Again, as a POC I am so glad I left the states. **** this.

https://news.sky.com/story/andre-hil...oting-12176574


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