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Captain_Swoop 30th September 2020 12:16 PM

In his first comments to camera since the debate Trump says "I don't know who the Proud Boys are." but he doesn't denounce them.

Then

Q: White supremacists clearly love you. Do you welcome that?
TRUMP: "I want law and order to be a very important part, it's a very important part of my campaign"

Q: Are you preparing for a Joe Biden victory?
TRUMP: "There won't be"

Captain_Swoop 30th September 2020 12:17 PM

Trump Tweets

Should be arrested on the spot!
Quote Tweet

Paul Sperry
@paulsperry_
BREAKING: Former FBI Director James Comey insisted today on the Hill that his investigation of the Trump campaign -- which included falsified evidence and illegal wiretaps -- was done "by the book”

ponderingturtle 30th September 2020 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13242505)
It's a myth whatever 'Gun Jesus' says.

https://link.springer.com/article/10...79-020-00237-9

This seems to show that the super heated toxic gasses were likely also a killer in many situations.

Captain_Swoop 30th September 2020 12:30 PM

Because they sear the lungs, you burn, it's not the oxygen being consumed by the flame or carbon monoxide doing it.
Flamethrowers were nasty and brutal but we don't like to admit we are roasting people or burning their lungs because we are the good guys.

Anyway. totally off topic.

Captain_Swoop 30th September 2020 12:32 PM

Trump Retweets

Paul Sperry
@paulsperry_
All of these FBI, CIA & DOJ crooks are running out the clock until Nov. 3, while doing everything they can to boost Biden's chances. They know that if they can drag Biden across the finish line, they can be pardoned for their rank corruption. Only voters can hold them accountable

Comey refutes Senators' assertion he spied on Trump, when in fact he sent Pientka to surveil Trump at a security briefing & Comey himself recorded Trump several times. He also neglects to mention he ok'd FISAs a/o tails, NSLs, trash covers on no fewer than 5 Trump campaign aides

Sen. Cruz to Comey: "You were deliberately corrupt or woefully incompetent, and I don't believe you were incompetent."

Captain_Swoop 30th September 2020 12:33 PM

Trump Retweeted

House Judiciary GOP
@JudiciaryGOP
James Comey is a fraud.
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Sean Davis
@seanmdav
Comey just claimed Trump is a Russian asset because Trump said he didn't trust the very same U.S. intelligence agencies that tried to frame him for treason, fueled by Russian disinformation and funded by Hillary Clinton and the DNC, in a coup that was led by Comey himself.

Captain_Swoop 30th September 2020 12:35 PM

Trump Tweets
LIAR!!!
Quote Tweet

Paul Sperry
@paulsperry_
BREAKING: Comey swears he doesn't remember hearing anything about Steele's primary subsource, Igor Danchenko, being the subject of an FBI C.I. investigation, as a suspected Russian agent, and doesn't recall his own CrossFire Hurricane team interviewing Danchenko in Jan 2017

Catherine Herridge
@CBS_Herridge
NOW: Under oath Senate Judiciary @Comey “I don't remember any information reaching me about the source for Steele." WHY IT MATTERS: Newly declassified records show FBI Russia team knew as early as Dec 2016 the primary source for the Steele dossier was the subject of 2009 FBI

Stacyhs 30th September 2020 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13241871)
Trump Retweeted


Trump War Room - Text TRUMP to 88022
@TrumpWarRoom
Isaac in Pennsylvania: "I'm an African American male and I voted Democrat all my life... I realized that Democrats are not really for the people, they are for themselves.... Trump is really stepping up and putting pressure on" China.

Anybody else smell a Russian bot, da?

newyorkguy 30th September 2020 01:02 PM

1 Attachment(s)
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13242558)
Trump Tweets
LIAR!!!

The lies just keep on coming. he obviously won't stop because he can't stop. How can this dirtbag be allowed to serve as our president? Where the heck is the Deep State when we need 'em?
From the Philadelphia Inquirer newspaper:
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President Donald Trump closed out his first presidential debate with Democratic nominee Joe Biden on Tuesday night by repeating on national television his false claim that poll watchers had been blocked from observing the first day of in-person early voting in Philadelphia.

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“Today there was a big problem,” Trump said in the closing moments of the debate. “In Philadelphia they went in to watch. They’re called poll watchers. A very safe, very nice thing. They were thrown out. They weren’t allowed to watch. You know why? Because bad things happen in Philadelphia, bad things.”
The Trump campaign has no poll watchers approved to work in Philadelphia at the moment. There are no actual polling places open in the city right now. Inquirer link
What trump was referring to was voting at satellite offices where voters can request a mail-in vote, then fill it out and submit it. Technically they are not polling places and poll watchers are not permitted. Also,
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No poll watchers have been certified yet for the Trump campaign, the Republican Party, or other Republican campaigns, said Nick Custodio, deputy city commissioner under Lisa Deeley, chair of the city commissioners. At least one woman claiming to be a Trump campaign poll watcher was barred from entering one of those satellite offices Tuesday in the Overbrook section of West Philadelphia.
trump poll watchers arriving for duty. (This is a JOKE!) ;)

Captain_Swoop 30th September 2020 03:11 PM

Trump Tweets

So weird to watch @FoxNews interviewing only failed Dems, like Represenative Tim Ryan of Ohio, who got zero percent in his recent presidential run, and following Sleepy Joe’s train to wherever. What a difference from the past - But we will win anyway!!!

Just landed in Minnesota. Hasn’t been won by a Republican since 1972, and we saved Minneapolis. Also opened the massive and beautiful Iron Range, which Obama and Sleepy Joe closed. Thousands of jobs started back. They will close again. How can we lose?

Captain_Swoop 30th September 2020 03:12 PM

Trump Retweeted

Grover Norquist
@GroverNorquist
Joe Biden will raise taxes on people making under $400,000.
You do not want to believe that?Watch Biden say it himself:

(video in link)
https://twitter.com/GroverNorquist/s...57138849878016


Grover Norquist
@GroverNorquist
Video: Yes, Biden will ban fracking.
He admits it on camera

(video in link)
https://twitter.com/GroverNorquist/s...56880346550273

Trebuchet 30th September 2020 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newyorkguy (Post 13242603)

trump poll watchers arriving for duty. (This is a JOKE!) ;)

Not a joke in a few weeks. You're going to have heavily armed thugs from out of the precinct standing around polling places to intimidate voters.
Some of them will be the local police.

Aridas 30th September 2020 05:14 PM

To poke at a couple things in the aftermath of the first Presidential Debate...

“The Family Is Worried Brad Will Start Talking”: Trumpworld Panics Over Debate Fiasco as Campaign Turmoil Mounts

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Trump doesn’t accept the consensus that the debate was a disaster because, sources said, he was unabashedly himself. “The thing about the debate is people got to see why no one that has any integrity can work for Trump. This is what Trump is like in the Oval Office every day. It’s why [John] Kelly left. It’s why [Jim] Mattis quit,” said the prominent Republican. “Trump doesn’t let anyone else speak. He really doesn’t care what you have to say. He demeans people. He talks over them. And everyone around him thinks it’s getting worse.”
Were these more normal times, that alone would be horrific. With Trump, it's pretty much par for the course.

Quote:

Parscale’s public meltdown happened while he is reportedly under investigation for stealing from the Trump campaign and the RNC. According to the source close to the campaign, the Trump family is worried that Parscale could turn on them and cooperate with law enforcement about possible campaign finance violations. “The family is worried Brad will start talking,” the source said.
Unconfirmed - and with the way things are, campaign finance violations are not so likely to be punished, but it would be interesting to see happen.

Elsewhere, for the fun of it, Mark Hamill had a comment -

Quote:

That debate was the worst thing I've ever seen & I was in The Star Wars Holiday Special.
Ouch.

Oh, and in unrelated matters, because it's worth some note -

Katie Porter reminds pharma CEO how much of his $13 mil salary came from tripling cancer drug price

As a simple summation quote -

Quote:

“So to recap here: The drug didn't get any better. The cancer patients didn't get any better. You just got better at making money. You just refined your skills at price gouging!”

newyorkguy 30th September 2020 05:58 PM

Maybe we should have a separate thread for Brad Parscale. But rumors he was stealing money raise questions. His association with trump was notoriously lucrative. As Business Insider reported:
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The filings show that between January 2017 and the end of March, Parscale's companies brought in $38.9 million from those [reelection] committees. He's been able to buy a Ferarri, a Range Rover, a $400,000 boat, two million dollar condos and a $2.4 million waterfront house in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., according to HuffPost. Business Insider link
Wikipedia states:
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In early 2015, Parscale's firm, Giles-Parscale, was hired to create a website for Donald Trump's exploratory campaign, charging $1,500 for the work. Between October and December 2015, Giles-Parscale was paid $21,000 by the Trump campaign. Through the entire election cycle, Giles-Parscale was paid $94 million by the Trump campaign. Wiki link
On top of this, Parscale was stealing?

Why was Parscale demoted in July? Because trump sensed his reelection was in trouble? Did they blame Parscale? Did trump humiliate him in meetings?

Parscale was reported to have ten firearms in his home. To have physically abused his wife, begun drinking heavily and threatening to 'harm himself.'

Strange man, even stranger story. Working for donald trump: not a good career move.

Stacyhs 30th September 2020 06:08 PM

I hope Parscale pulls a Cohen.

Beelzebuddy 30th September 2020 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newyorkguy (Post 13242875)
Why was Parscale demoted in July?

IIRC one of the first Lincoln Project ads heavily implied Parscale was stealing from the campaign.

Stacyhs 30th September 2020 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by newyorkguy View Post
Why was Parscale demoted in July?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy (Post 13242882)
IIRC one of the first Lincoln Project ads heavily implied Parscale was stealing from the campaign.

IIRC, it had to do with the Tulsa rally fiasco. It was overhyped and under attended embarrassing Trump.

The Great Zaganza 30th September 2020 06:40 PM

Pascale hyped the Tulsa debacle, and Trump must have hated the empty hall.

It was a costly embarrassment for the campaign.

The Great Zaganza 30th September 2020 10:22 PM

Dems should prepare an Impeachment in case there is evidence for voting fraud by the Trump campaign, and signal that to their GOP counterparts.
Trump losing would be a blow to the GOP.
Republicans aiding and abetting the attempted stealing of an election would destroy every incumbent Republican.

Aridas 1st October 2020 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13242998)
Dems should prepare an Impeachment in case there is evidence for voting fraud by the Trump campaign, and signal that to their GOP counterparts.
Trump losing would be a blow to the GOP.
Republicans aiding and abetting the attempted stealing of an election would destroy every incumbent Republican.

I think that that's wishful thinking that would likely be shown to be false when put to the test, unfortunately, given the trend so far. That's before getting to the part where there's lip service to fair elections at the same time as they work to sabotage electoral integrity under extremely thin pretexts, regardless.

Captain_Swoop 1st October 2020 03:26 AM

Trump Tweets

In just 3 and a half years, we have secured America’s Borders, rebuilt the awesome power of the U.S. Military, obliterated the ISIS caliphate, fixed our disastrous Trade Deals, and brought JOBS back home to America – and back to MINNESOTA! #MAGA

As VP, Biden wiped out the Iron Range – seven plants were idled and more than 2K workers were laid off. After I put Tariffs on foreign steel, the Iron Range came roaring back to life! If Joe gets in, the Radical Left will shut down the Iron Range FOREVER!

I want to defend & preserve our nation’s historic values. Our opponents stand with rioters – I stand with the heroes of Law Enforcement. Biden says Antifa is just an idea. Ideas don’t assault cops & burn down buildings. Antifa is a domestic terrorist org.

Last night I did what the corrupt media has refused to do: I held Joe Biden Accountable for his 47 years of lies, 47 years of betrayals, and 47 years of failure. The whole nation saw the truth — Joe Biden is too weak to lead this Country!

Captain_Swoop 1st October 2020 03:28 AM

Trump Retweeted

Paul Sperry
@paulsperry_
all this memory loss and out-of-the-loop i dunnos is strange for a guy who took copious notes after playing a case agent spying on Trump and locked them in his home safe, and wrote a book and is writing a second book now
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Tom Elliott
@tomselliott
SUPERCUT!
@Comey "can't recall" anything about the Russia probe he oversaw

Captain_Swoop 1st October 2020 03:29 AM

Trump Tweeted

So when will something significant happen to James Comey? Got caught cold. He is either very dumb, or one of the worst liars in political history. TOO LONG. EMBARRASSING!

Comey is a disaster who cheated and lied. How do you write books when you can’t remember anything? Should be tried for treason. This is ridiculous!

The Don 1st October 2020 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13243104)
Trump Tweeted

So when will something significant happen to James Comey? Got caught cold. He is either very dumb, or one of the worst liars in political history. TOO LONG. EMBARRASSING!

Comey is a disaster who cheated and lied. How do you write books when you can’t remember anything? Should be tried for treason. This is ridiculous!

Gosh, if only Donald J Trump knew anyone in, or had any influence over, the people who could bring such an alleged traitor to justice :rolleyes:

President Biden has a lot to answer for :mad:

Captain_Swoop 1st October 2020 03:38 AM

Trump Retweeted
Lindsey Graham
@LindseyGrahamSC
US Senate candidate, SC
Great news for South Carolina and a compliment to the @weareboeingsc workforce!
This would never have come to pass had President Obama’s NRLB been allowed to shut Boeing’s South Carolina operations down!

Darat 1st October 2020 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 13242519)
Picture is from earlier in the year, not last night. Speculation was that it's a shunt for hydrocephalus. Google "Trump Shunt".

Really? The things people see!

Tero 1st October 2020 04:36 AM

Website of the Republican effort to stop mail-in votes:
https://www.protectthevote.com/

Firestone 1st October 2020 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tero (Post 13243157)
Website of the Republican effort to stop mail-in votes:
https://www.protectthevote.com/

Not for us furriners. :)

Quote:

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They use Amazon. Does Trump know?

Ladewig 1st October 2020 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aridas (Post 13243028)
I think that that's wishful thinking that would likely be shown to be false when put to the test, unfortunately, given the trend so far. That's before getting to the part where there's lip service to fair elections at the same time as they work to sabotage electoral integrity under extremely thin pretexts, regardless.

I fear you are right.

I suspect if there were some undeniable, clearly-documented evidence of Republican-led voter fraud, then the responses would be.

- QAnon predicted this type of false flag operation.

- The Dems did five times as much but they didn’t get caught because they are so practiced at it.

- Yeah, yeah whatever. I don’t have time for that story because President Trump is in the National Archives Building demanding that the Consititution be removed from the case so he can sign it.

-Don't you get it? We are fighting for the Soul of America!

- Isolated incident(s).

- I don’t believe it because the Democrats have made over 10,000 false or misleading statements since President Trump took office.

- But those numbers wouldn’t have changed the outcome in that state.

- You do understand that this type of reporting just helps Sleepy Joe Biden. More MSM liberal bias.

- LaLaLaLaLaLa (I cant hear you).

- But, but, but ... we were trying to re-elect Donald Trump - the greatest president ever.

- I’m rubber, you’re glues, whatever you say bounces off of me a sticks to you.


OK, so maybe half are facetious - but not impossible.

Ladewig 1st October 2020 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tero (Post 13243157)
Website of the Republican effort to stop mail-in votes:
https://www.protectthevote.com/

I really should not be surprised or discouraged that the death of facts would lead to the death of logic.

........
Now If you’ll excuse me, I am off to run the numbers on selling snake oil products on Etsy.

“You’ll experience contentment and relief beyond all imagination. Wouldn’t you like a sharper mind and a better memory? Mopey and lassitude will disappear, as will feelings of dejection.
You may ask if this is approved by the FDA, and I’ll tell you we use only the finest and purest ingredients.
The regulators won’t let me say that this product will increase your love of America, so I won’t say that. Instead, I’ll just let you read the testimonials”

Captain_Swoop 1st October 2020 06:46 AM

At the Duluth rally Trump said "Biden will turn Minnesota into a refugee camp"
In a state with one of the largest Somali populations in the country,
Trump goaded the crowd in to booing refugees and "lock her up!" chants directed at Ilhan Omar.

Also "I'm not doing well in the suburbs. Are you people crazy"
He claimed that Biden will destroy the suburbs by "abolishing single-family zoning"

Back to his Nobel nomination
"They covered one story, it was about rain, these people are sick"

"Now I understand he's canceling the debates"
Trump is just totally making stuff up. Biden has not canceled either of the two remaining debates.

"What are they gonna do when in 8, 12, maybe 16 years I say, 'let's hang it up'? 16 more years."

On to the wall.
"Mexico is paying for it. You do know that, right? They keep saying it is going to be a border charge at the border."

"A man came up to me. A tough man. A man who, a worker, a construction worker. Real worker, and he looked at me, this is two years ago, he said, 'Sir, you have given us back our life.' And he was crying."

"But if we don't win, I'm never calling you great again" Closing words to voters in Duluth.

JoeMorgue 1st October 2020 06:47 AM

There is an argument I find somewhat (not completely but somewhat) comforting.

The "Right" will not engage in a mass uprising if Trump loses because evolutions/uprisings happen when a people are truly desperate. The "Right" is not truly desperate. They can go on about how there way of life is ending and that all is lost if the Democrats get in power but then they go home to their houses and sleep in their warm comfortable beds and watch TV. People don't go all Red Dawn when they do that.

David Wong (yeah, yeah I'm bringing him up again) mentioned that when he was growing up his family belong to a church where every Sunday the pastor would go on and on about how any day now the "Evil Godless Liberals" would round up all the good God fearing real Americans and everyone nodded and agreed... and then when church let out they didn't go out and buy ammo and prepare for widespread guerilla warfare, they to the Old Country Buffet for lunch and then went home to watch the Bears game.

The Great Zaganza 1st October 2020 06:56 AM

Trump is desperate to cancel the next debates - without a Fox guy lobbying softballs at him "he will love", he will get someone eager to prove that he won't put up with his temper tantrums.

Trump took his best shot and it didn't land.

Lennart Hyland 1st October 2020 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13243250)

"A man came up to me. A tough man. A man who, a worker, a construction worker. Real worker, and he looked at me, this is two years ago, he said, 'Sir, you have given us back our life.' And he was crying."

Something in me tells me that is a lie...

Giordano 1st October 2020 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13243250)
At the Duluth rally Trump said "Biden will turn Minnesota into a refugee camp"
In a state with one of the largest Somali populations in the country,
Trump goaded the crowd in to booing refugees and "lock her up!" chants directed at Ilhan Omar.

Also "I'm not doing well in the suburbs. Are you people crazy"
He claimed that Biden will destroy the suburbs by "abolishing single-family zoning"

Back to his Nobel nomination
"They covered one story, it was about rain, these people are sick"

"Now I understand he's canceling the debates"
Trump is just totally making stuff up. Biden has not canceled either of the two remaining debates.

"What are they gonna do when in 8, 12, maybe 16 years I say, 'let's hang it up'? 16 more years."

On to the wall.
"Mexico is paying for it. You do know that, right? They keep saying it is going to be a border charge at the border."

"A man came up to me. A tough man. A man who, a worker, a construction worker. Real worker, and he looked at me, this is two years ago, he said, 'Sir, you have given us back our life.' And he was crying."

"But if we don't win, I'm never calling you great again" Closing words to voters in Duluth.

Loser! Real tough men, real workers, don’t cry!

As with the rest of the rally quote, and all of Trump’s statements, removing any requirement for reality makes telling compelling stories so much easier!

Captain_Swoop 1st October 2020 09:10 AM

On Fox News, John Roberts is visibly angry that the Press Secretary won't make a clear denunciation of white supremacy: "Stop deflecting. Stop blaming the media. I'm tired of it. " he said.

The question McEnany was asked was, "Without ambiguity or deflection, does the president denounce white supremacism?" She refuses to say "yes."

The Great Zaganza 1st October 2020 09:17 AM

Fox is clearly looking for a way to abandon the USS Trump.
They seem to have gotten the marching orders to draw the line at White Supremacy.

Giordano 1st October 2020 09:18 AM

Just a year ago one of my ex-students cane to me and told me I was the best instructor in the history of humankind. And he begged me to use his head as a foot stool for the rest of his life. Ironically he was weeping so profusely he became dehydrated and died within a month.

timhau 1st October 2020 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giordano (Post 13243423)
Just a year ago one of my ex-students cane to me and told me I was the best instructor in the history of humankind. And he begged me to use his head as a foot stool for the rest of his life. Ironically he was weeping so profusely he became dehydrated and died within a month.

But did he say "Sir"?

ponderingturtle 1st October 2020 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13243400)
On Fox News, John Roberts is visibly angry that the Press Secretary won't make a clear denunciation of white supremacy: "Stop deflecting. Stop blaming the media. I'm tired of it. " he said.

The question McEnany was asked was, "Without ambiguity or deflection, does the president denounce white supremacism?" She refuses to say "yes."

Hey it was from the last election that it was insulting to republicans to call white supremacists deplorable so why would people think it has changed since then?

Captain_Swoop 1st October 2020 09:24 AM

The Trump quotes McEnany is using to defend Trump over white supremacy are misleading, such as trying to spin his debate comments as condemning white supremacy when in fact he did nothing of the sort.

It's like how Trump mocks and dismisses face masks, but occasionally says they're a good thing then his team can acts like he's been the biggest advocate for them and it's a smear campaign to pretend otherwise.

Encourage bigots in one sentence before barely distancing in the next, then attack people who report on the first statement.

johnny karate 1st October 2020 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13243435)
The Trump quotes McEnany is using to defend Trump over white supremacy are misleading, such as trying to spin his debate comments as condemning white supremacy when in fact he did nothing of the sort.

It's like how Trump mocks and dismisses face masks, but occasionally says they're a good thing then his team can acts like he's been the biggest advocate for them and it's a smear campaign to pretend otherwise.

Encourage bigots in one sentence before barely distancing in the next, then attack people who report on the first statement.

Yes, exactly. The standard MO is to take the contradictory statements, back-pedals, and retractions as existing in a vacuum and call anyone a liar who refers to the original statement.

This has been used to great effect with the “Very fine people” statement.

Horatius 1st October 2020 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13243435)
It's like how Trump mocks and dismisses face masks, but occasionally says they're a good thing then his team can acts like he's been the biggest advocate for them and it's a smear campaign to pretend otherwise.

Encourage bigots in one sentence before barely distancing in the next, then attack people who report on the first statement.



And that's the most confusing part of Trump's debate performance. Why the **** didn't he just come up with the obviously correct answer, "Yes, I condemn White Supremacy"? Sure, everyone would have known it was a lie, but this guy lies like a rug. How is it the one time everyone expects him to lie, he just can't seem to do it? It's mindboggling.

And it's the one lie that can't possibly hurt him. The Proud Boys and their ilk will know he's just telling the libtards what they want to hear, the people who weren't going to vote for him don't matter, and it gives just enough of a fig leaf of normalcy that a few racist-but-not-racist white suburbanites might vote for him instead of against him.

This might be the single most confusing act he's committed as president. It doesn't make any sense at all, even when you try to pro-rate it based on how little sense his acts normally make.

Solitaire 1st October 2020 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horatius (Post 13243523)
This might be the single most confusing act he's committed as president.
It doesn't make any sense at all, even when you try to pro-rate it based on
how little sense his acts normally make.


Yeah, it does boggle the mind.

Perhaps, it's a product of all his years being around racists.
He's never been exposed to any other point of view on the matter.
Which boggles the mind again.

slyjoe 1st October 2020 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solitaire (Post 13243570)
Yeah, it does boggle the mind.

Perhaps, it's a product of all his years being around racists.
He's never been exposed to any other point of view on the matter.
Which boggles the mind again.

Or, it could be as simple as "don't upset your base".

Horatius 1st October 2020 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slyjoe (Post 13243573)
Or, it could be as simple as "don't upset your base".



But that's the thing - it probably wouldn't upset his base. His base is used to dogwhistles, and used to "saying the quiet part quiet" and all that. They know that, even today, outright support for white supremacy is a losing proposition in most places. So they'll wave it away, they know there's an asterisk on his public denials. They won't care about what he says in public as long as he keeps saying the right things in private, and still actually does the racist things they want him to be doing.

Regnad Kcin 1st October 2020 11:17 AM

He's a petulant dick.

Oh, that's what you'd like me to say, huh? Get bent.

StillSleepy 1st October 2020 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horatius (Post 13243523)
And that's the most confusing part of Trump's debate performance. Why the **** didn't he just come up with the obviously correct answer, "Yes, I condemn White Supremacy"? Sure, everyone would have known it was a lie, but this guy lies like a rug. How is it the one time everyone expects him to lie, he just can't seem to do it? It's mindboggling.



And it's the one lie that can't possibly hurt him. The Proud Boys and their ilk will know he's just telling the libtards what they want to hear, the people who weren't going to vote for him don't matter, and it gives just enough of a fig leaf of normalcy that a few racist-but-not-racist white suburbanites might vote for him instead of against him.



This might be the single most confusing act he's committed as president. It doesn't make any sense at all, even when you try to pro-rate it based on how little sense his acts normally make.

It would be off-brand. From the other side of the table, it's merely Trump "telling it like it is" or "just being honest" and a demonstration of strength, the same with talking over his opposition. The underlying theme of Trump's support is a vicarious power trip by proxy for the naively cynical, where virtually nothing matters beyond the expansion and exercise of power to further the appearance and ends of the "powerful" or "righteous." That crowd won't complain until it affects them, and even then they'll do their best to find something else to blame rather than risk being separated from their herd, consciously or not.

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Giordano 1st October 2020 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timhau (Post 13243427)
But did he say "Sir"?

He said, “Yes, please sir!” and handed me a riding crop. I found this confusing. He didn’t even own a horse!

Skeptic Ginger 1st October 2020 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 13243161)
Not for us furriners. :)


They use Amazon. Does Trump know?

They're hiding that shenanigans from furriners? That's bizarre.

You're not missing anything. It was TL;DR.


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