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Captain_Swoop 3rd September 2020 02:12 AM

Trump Tweets

My Administration will do everything in its power to prevent weak mayors and lawless cities from taking Federal dollars while they let anarchists harm people, burn buildings, and ruin lives and businesses. We’re putting them on notice today.
@RussVought45

The Don 3rd September 2020 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13210373)
Ford is cutting 1,400 jobs, United Airlines is furloughing 16,000 employees. Expect other auto companies and airlines to follow suit. Anyone who thinks that unemployment is going to go down is only fooling themselves.

The headline is "10 million jobs created".

It doesn't matter that these aren't new jobs, just a fraction of the lost jobs returning, or that thousands of other jobs are being lost in other sectors, President Trump has that headline figure to boast about and for the right wing media to broadcast. :mad:

KDLarsen 3rd September 2020 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13210393)
Trump Tweets

My Administration will do everything in its power to prevent weak mayors and lawless cities from taking Federal dollars while they let anarchists harm people, burn buildings, and ruin lives and businesses. We’re putting them on notice today.
@RussVought45

And as has been pointed out repeatedly, this is not trump's prerogative.

Captain_Swoop 3rd September 2020 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aridas (Post 13210279)
Time to poke at things!

First things first - Trump encourages North Carolina residents to vote twice to test mail-in system. Yes, you read that right. Trump just exhorted a huge number of people to commit a felony. Criminal incitement?
.


“I was just testing whether this state can detect voter fraud when I showed up to vote a second time”

is about as good a defense as

“I broke into the bank just to test whether it has a good alarm system.”

Captain_Swoop 3rd September 2020 05:36 AM

Trump Tweets

Governors Andrew Cuomo of New York has the worst record on death and China Virus. 11,000 people alone died in Nursing Homes because of his incompetence!

Aber 3rd September 2020 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13210368)
Biden needs to be very careful about how he approaches it though. Being seen to be hectoring someone who has "created millions of jobs" for not creating millions more may backfire badly.

"Are there more American's working than when I was Vice President?" should cover it.

The Don 3rd September 2020 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aber (Post 13210551)
"Are there more American's working than when I was Vice President?" should cover it.

Maybe "more Americans unemployed" is better just in case increases in the size of the labour force, or some other statistical anomaly mean that there were fewer Americans working on the last day he was Veep.

shemp 3rd September 2020 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13210257)
I disagree. I think that President Trump will be able to sell the "millions of jobs created" message to enough people to make a difference.

Any job losses were down to the "China Virus", Democrats, NAFTA and so on.

Any new jobs are down to President Trump.

Only morons and ******** would believe a message like that. Unfortunately, they're about half of U.S. voters.

Captain_Swoop 3rd September 2020 06:49 AM

Trump Tweets

@NYGovCuomo should get his puppet New York prosecutors, who have been illegally after me and my family for years, to investigate his incompetent handling of the China Virus, and all of the deaths caused by this incompetence. It is at minimum a Nursing Home Scandal - 11,000 DEAD!

Sleepy Joe Hiden’ was acknowledged by his own people to have done a terrible job on a much easier situation, H1N1 Swine Flu. The OBiden Administration failed badly on this, & now he sits back in his basement and criticizes every move we make on the China Virus. DOING GREAT JOB!

Captain_Swoop 3rd September 2020 07:39 AM

Trump Tweets

Based on the massive number of Unsolicited & Solicited Ballots that will be sent to potential Voters for the upcoming 2020 Election, & in order for you to MAKE SURE YOUR VOTE COUNTS & IS COUNTED, SIGN & MAIL IN your Ballot as EARLY as possible. On Election Day, or Early Voting,..

.....go to your Polling Place to see whether or not your Mail In Vote has been Tabulated (Counted). If it has you will not be able to Vote & the Mail In System worked properly. If it has not been Counted, VOTE (which is a citizen’s right to do). If your Mail In Ballot arrives....

....after you Vote, which it should not, that Ballot will not be used or counted in that your vote has already been cast & tabulated. YOU ARE NOW ASSURED THAT YOUR PRECIOUS VOTE HAS BEEN COUNTED, it hasn’t been “lost, thrown out, or in any way destroyed”. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

Captain_Swoop 3rd September 2020 07:43 AM

He seems to think that the workers at the polling stations are checking to see if people turning up to vote have also voted by mail.
He also seems to think that mail in votes have already been counted before election day?

Dr. Keith 3rd September 2020 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13210650)
He seems to think that the workers at the polling stations are checking to see if people turning up to vote have also voted by mail.
He also seems to think that mail in votes have already been counted before election day?

He is encouraging his followers to commit voter fraud and in most states a felony.

That will get you five years in prison around here. (Well, if you're black, maybe.)

carlosy 3rd September 2020 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Keith (Post 13210679)
He is encouraging his followers to commit voter fraud and in most states a felony.

That will get you five years in prison around here. (Well, if you're black, maybe.)

Everyone who successfully demonstrated that double voting is possible will get a full pardon by Trump.

So, you're good to go!

Captain_Swoop 3rd September 2020 09:14 AM

Trump Tweets

Do you notice that any time Fake News Suppression Polls are put out, like @FoxNews, the Stock Market goes DOWN. We are going to WIN!

@FoxNews Polls are, as in the past, Fake News. They have been from the beginning, way off in 2016. Get a new pollster. I believe we are leading BIG!

Jim_MDP 3rd September 2020 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13210792)
Trump Tweets

Do you notice that any time Fake News Suppression Polls are put out, like @FoxNews, the Stock Market goes DOWN. We are going to WIN!

@FoxNews Polls are, as in the past, Fake News. They have been from the beginning, way off in 2016. Get a new pollster. I believe we are leading BIG!

Wow... he retconned them right into the enemy camp. Eastasia anyone? [emoji15]

shemp 3rd September 2020 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13210650)
He seems to think that the workers at the polling stations are checking to see if people turning up to vote have also voted by mail.
He also seems to think that mail in votes have already been counted before election day?

You are mistaken. Trump is incapable of thinking.

Safe-Keeper 3rd September 2020 10:23 AM

Quote:

@FoxNews Polls are, as in the past, Fake News. They have been from the beginning, way off in 2016.
Kate begs the question, like when he/she/they hires people he apparently knows to be incompetent, corrupt liars.

alfaniner 3rd September 2020 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13210650)
He seems to think that the workers at the polling stations are checking to see if people turning up to vote have also voted by mail.
He also seems to think that mail in votes have already been counted before election day?

I have wondered how those checks are done, rather than relying on the honor system.

Captain_Swoop 3rd September 2020 10:36 AM

Eric Trump Tweets

@EricTrump
The Dow is on FireFireFire
You know the radical left is melting down as we speak knowing that our economy is roaring back to life! !
#USAUSAUSA

carlitos 3rd September 2020 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 13210905)
I have wondered how those checks are done, rather than relying on the honor system.



In some states, absentee voters are removed from the poll book when it’s generated for Election Day. If you get there and have already voted absentee, you shouldn’t be able to vote again. If there’s a mixup, you can insist on a provisional ballot though.

Sherkeu 3rd September 2020 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KDLarsen (Post 13210406)
And as has been pointed out repeatedly, this is not trump's prerogative.

As for cutting some Fed funds to cities....

One example...I am sure there are more:

Office of Community Oriented Policing Services

There are some Federal Dollars that come as grants from the DOJ. Police dept's need to apply for them.

The reason for the funding to help fund hiring, training, community services, and mental help for police forces. It including 'anti-bias' training.

If some police departments are cutting their budgets (or trying to defund altogether) in response to the protesters, then they hardly need this Federal funding anymore, right?

Wisconsin just received a grant for $41M.

This is a Department thing but the funds are given as incentives to improve specific things. If funds are not used/needed for that purpose, then of course they will not be granted. (Trump cant decide on his own!)

Aridas 3rd September 2020 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlitos (Post 13210930)
In some states, absentee voters are removed from the poll book when it’s generated for Election Day. If you get there and have already voted absentee, you shouldn’t be able to vote again. If there’s a mixup, you can insist on a provisional ballot though.

To speak for where I am, if you *apply* for a mail in ballot, you cannot then vote in person, though a provisional ballot can be used.

ponderingturtle 3rd September 2020 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherkeu (Post 13210964)
As for cutting some Fed funds to cities....

One example...I am sure there are more:

Office of Community Oriented Policing Services

There are some Federal Dollars that come as grants from the DOJ. Police dept's need to apply for them.

The reason for the funding to help fund hiring, training, community services, and mental help for police forces. It including 'anti-bias' training.

And training in killology because the police are not killing often enough.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...dave-grossman/

Sherkeu 3rd September 2020 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle (Post 13210983)
And training in killology because the police are not killing often enough.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...dave-grossman/


It's behind a paywall, but, just looking at the date of early 2017 and referencing events from several months earlier in the first few lines (which I could see), that grant and those courses would have been under the oversight of AG Holder, under Obama.
Did they not know about it? I could not read the article to determine if it is even related to what I posted above.

eta: the COPS program was started under another law, under Bill Clinton. That big crime bill:
Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994

Stacyhs 3rd September 2020 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13210399)
The headline is "10 million jobs created".

It doesn't matter that these aren't new jobs, just a fraction of the lost jobs returning, or that thousands of other jobs are being lost in other sectors, President Trump has that headline figure to boast about and for the right wing media to broadcast. :mad:

That may be, but a lot of those people that are actually unemployed now or who are going to lose their jobs between now and the election are Republicans.

The Don 3rd September 2020 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13210991)
That may be, but a lot of those people that are actually unemployed now or who are going to lose their jobs between now and the election are Republicans.

IMO they'll vote for President Trump even if they've lost their jobs because he'll get than back:mad:

ponderingturtle 3rd September 2020 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherkeu (Post 13210989)
It's behind a paywall, but, just looking at the date of early 2017 and referencing events from several months earlier in the first few lines (which I could see), that grant and those courses would have been under the oversight of AG Holder, under Obama.
Did they not know about it? I could not read the article to determine if it is even related to what I posted above.

It is an example of the real training that police receive, how to have better sex through killing people.

"Fittingly, the most chilling scene in the movie doesn’t take place on a city street, or at a protest, or during a drug raid. It takes place in a conference room. It’s from a police training conference with Dave Grossman, one of the most prolific police trainers in the country. Grossman’s classes teach officers to be less hesitant to use lethal force, urge them to be willing to do it more quickly and teach them how to adopt the mentality of a warrior. Jeronimo Yanez, the Minnesota police officer who shot and killed Philando Castile in July, had attended one of Grossman’s classes called “The Bulletproof Warrior” (though that particular class was taught by Grossman’s business partner, Jim Glennon).
In the class recorded for “Do Not Resist,” Grossman at one point tells his students that the sex they have after they kill another human being will be the best sex of their lives. The room chuckles. But he’s clearly serious. “Both partners are very invested in some very intense sex,” he says. “There’s not a whole lot of perks that come with this job. You find one, relax and enjoy it.”
Grossman closes the class with a (literal) chest-pounding motivational speech that climaxes with Grossman telling the officers to find an overpass overlooking the city they serve. He urges them to look down on their city and know that they’ve made the world a better place. He then urges them to grip the overpass railing, lean forward and “let your cape blow in the wind.” The room gives him a standing ovation."

Here is another article on the same training.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics...ilitarization/

He is one of the biggest names in police training and advocating for a more violent police force.

Sherkeu 3rd September 2020 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle (Post 13210997)
It is an example of the real training that police receive, how to have better sex through killing people.


He is one of the biggest names in police training and advocating for a more violent police force.

I do not understand how this relates to my post about FUNDING.
My post was in relation to Federal funding for specific training- relating to 'community policing'. This is more stuff like 'ride alongs' and visits to 'Boys & Girls Club" bias training, mental breaks, etc...

What does this class, by this person, have to do with Trump's letter to possibly cut Federal funds?

ponderingturtle 3rd September 2020 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherkeu (Post 13211018)
I do not understand how this relates to my post about FUNDING.
My post was in relation to Federal funding for specific training- relating to 'community policing'. This is more stuff like 'ride alongs' and visits to 'Boys & Girls Club" bias training, mental breaks, etc...

What does this class, by this person, have to do with Trump's letter to possibly cut Federal funds?

A knee jerk reaction I have to the claims that training is any kind of solution to the problem of police violence. Unless that is that the police are not violent enough.

carlitos 3rd September 2020 11:51 AM

Which has nothing to do with whether it is or isn’t Trumps prerogative to cut federal funding to local police.

Sherkeu 3rd September 2020 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlitos (Post 13211047)
Which has nothing to do with whether it is or isn’t Trumps prerogative to cut federal funding to local police.

Funding per legislation come under the purview of the DOJ, then the boss of the DOJ is Trump.

We are used to him not being able to work close with them because that was hindered by all the impeachment proceedings. But it's all back to normal now.
He can work closely with them just as Obama did with Holder.

Trump is the boss, right? If DOJ decide who gets the money, then Trump has influence there. If goes direct from Congress, then he does not. I believe he also decides who gets the military surplus toys too. Not sure.

I havent researched it in some thorough way, so perhaps you can provide more guidance on how it works.

eta: for those not familiar, the Dept of Justice is part of the Executive Branch of the US govt. Trump is the head of that branch - the other 2 being legislative (congress) and judicial (courts)

carlitos 3rd September 2020 12:08 PM

I was agreeing with you. Sorry if that wasn’t clear. Interjections with knee jerk reactions don’t help.

Sherkeu 3rd September 2020 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlitos (Post 13211075)
I was agreeing with you. Sorry if that wasn’t clear. Interjections with knee jerk reactions don’t help.

Cool. No prob. My post provides some explanation anyway.
Even though the person I respond to might know how our branches work, I should always provide some base facts so it is clearer for my fellow Americans (The dern furreners on here seem to know more about it than the locals much of the time!:p).
I still learn interesting facts about it all the time.
People can blame Trump for a lot of things, but it's hard to say he didn't inspire people to be more aware and educated about politics!

Captain_Swoop 3rd September 2020 12:24 PM

Trump Tweets

Nancy Pelosi says she got “set up” by a Beauty Parlor owner. Maybe the Beauty Parlor owner should be running the House of Representatives instead of Crazy Nancy?

Crazy Nancy Pelosi said she was “set up” by the beauty parlor owner when she improperly had the salon opened (and didn’t wear a MASK!). Does anyone want a Speaker of the House who can be so easily SET UP?

Babbylonian 3rd September 2020 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13211104)
Trump Tweets

Nancy Pelosi says she got “set up” by a Beauty Parlor owner. Maybe the Beauty Parlor owner should be running the House of Representatives instead of Crazy Nancy?

Crazy Nancy Pelosi said she was “set up” by the beauty parlor owner when she improperly had the salon opened (and didn’t wear a MASK!). Does anyone want a Speaker of the House who can be so easily SET UP?

It's like everything he says has to include a giant lie. He could easily continue mocking Pelosi for appearing on camera in a public place without a mask, but he has to double down with lies to make it seem even worse.

1. Pelosi didn't have the shop opened. It was open.
2. According to the stylist who did her hair, not only was the shop already open when Pelosi went in, but it's been open (illegally) since April and the owner has been "forcing"* stylists to come in so she can get paid.
3. Mocking Pelosi for being easy to set up is just dumb. If you make an appointment with a business and they position cameras in order to catch you doing something wrong with the explicit (they accepted the appointment) consent of that business, you can't defend against that.
4. Seriously, how can a business owner blame a customer for being inside their business when that business owner always has the option not to allow customers inside?

Don't get me wrong. Pelosi acted stupidly and the day she leaves Congress will be a great one (she is a truly awful leader of both the House and her party) but going after her for getting her hair done is insanity, especially since female Democrats get slammed all the time by Republicans (and jerks in general) for their appearance.

*Presumably, "forcing" in this case means telling the people who work in her shop that if they don't come in they'll lose their spots and she'll find others to take over.

Stacyhs 3rd September 2020 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13211104)
Trump Tweets

Nancy Pelosi says she got “set up” by a Beauty Parlor owner. Maybe the Beauty Parlor owner should be running the House of Representatives instead of Crazy Nancy?

Crazy Nancy Pelosi said she was “set up” by the beauty parlor owner when she improperly had the salon opened (and didn’t wear a MASK!). Does anyone want a Speaker of the House who can be so easily SET UP?

Does anyone want a president who behaves like a childish play ground bully?

JoeMorgue 3rd September 2020 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13211139)
Does anyone want a president who behaves like a childish play ground bully?

Yeah. At least 40% of us via every available piece of information we have.

JoeMorgue 3rd September 2020 12:49 PM

Yeah and let me tale how awesome it is that a Democratic getting a haircut is a major news story again.

Babbylonian 3rd September 2020 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13211147)
Yeah and let me tale how awesome it is that a Democratic getting a haircut is a major news story again.

It's because that's all the ****-sipping Republicans have. Sure, Trump did literally everything wrong at the outset of this pandemic which resulted in unnecessary death and economic devastation, and, sure, he continues to make a mockery of democracy and destroy every US institution he possibly can, but a leader of the Democratic Party had her hair done and was caught on a camera without a mask! String her up! #MAGA!

Stacyhs 3rd September 2020 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13211144)
Yeah. At least 40% of us via every available piece of information we have.

Ah...but they don't think he behaves like a childish playground bully. He's being clever, witty, and triggering the libs! Such is the level of their wit.

Skeptic Ginger 3rd September 2020 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13210393)
Trump Tweets

My Administration will do everything in its power to prevent weak mayors and lawless cities from taking Federal dollars while they let anarchists harm people, burn buildings, and ruin lives and businesses. We’re putting them on notice today.
@RussVought45

While Trump rants on this BS, the stock market crashes again!

Neener neerer neener. :p

Skeptic Ginger 3rd September 2020 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13210524)
Trump Tweets

Governors Andrew Cuomo of New York has the worst record on death and China Virus. 11,000 people alone died in Nursing Homes because of his incompetence!

11,000 people died in NY nursing homes? Or was that nursing homes in the whole country.

Sorry, too worn out to look it up.

Skeptic Ginger 3rd September 2020 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aber (Post 13210551)
"Are there more American's working than when I was Vice President?" should cover it.

I also like Reagan's schtick: Are you better off now than when you were 4 years ago?

Skeptic Ginger 3rd September 2020 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13210646)
Trump Tweets

Based on the massive number of Unsolicited & Solicited Ballots that will be sent to potential Voters for the upcoming 2020 Election, & in order for you to MAKE SURE YOUR VOTE COUNTS & IS COUNTED, SIGN & MAIL IN your Ballot as EARLY as possible. On Election Day, or Early Voting,..

.....go to your Polling Place to see whether or not your Mail In Vote has been Tabulated (Counted). If it has you will not be able to Vote & the Mail In System worked properly. If it has not been Counted, VOTE (which is a citizen’s right to do). If your Mail In Ballot arrives....

....after you Vote, which it should not, that Ballot will not be used or counted in that your vote has already been cast & tabulated. YOU ARE NOW ASSURED THAT YOUR PRECIOUS VOTE HAS BEEN COUNTED, it hasn’t been “lost, thrown out, or in any way destroyed”. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

Wrong on so many levels.

Trump wants to claim the check for double voting is at the polling place when it is later when the ballots are checked and counted.

I said earlier neither vote would count but I think they would toss the absentee ballot if you already voted in person and count the in-person one.

Captain_Swoop 3rd September 2020 01:41 PM

The following Tweet has disappeared from trump's stream.

Nancy Pelosi says she got “set up” by a Beauty Parlor owner. Maybe the Beauty Parlor owner should be running the House of Representatives instead of Crazy Nancy?

Skeptic Ginger 3rd September 2020 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13210919)
Eric Trump Tweets

@EricTrump
The Dow is on FireFireFire
You know the radical left is melting down as we speak knowing that our economy is roaring back to life! !
#USAUSAUSA

:confused:

Dow is down 800-900 points today.

Skeptic Ginger 3rd September 2020 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aridas (Post 13210969)
To speak for where I am, if you *apply* for a mail in ballot, you cannot then vote in person, though a provisional ballot can be used.

That makes sense, going by if you applied rather than when you send the vote in.

JoeMorgue 3rd September 2020 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 13211231)
:confused:

Dow is down 800-900 points today.

"You don't seen graphite on the ground because there isn't any. An RBMK reactor core doesn't explode. 3.6 roetgnen an hour."

Firestone 3rd September 2020 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 13211231)
:confused:

Dow is down 800-900 points today.

The tweet is from yesterday. :D

I now officially hate Captain_Swoop for making me scroll through Eric Trump's Twitter feed. The stupid there is just ....:jaw-dropp

Skeptic Ginger 3rd September 2020 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babbylonian (Post 13211138)
It's like everything he says has to include a giant lie. He could easily continue mocking Pelosi for appearing on camera in a public place without a mask, but he has to double down with lies to make it seem even worse.

1. Pelosi didn't have the shop opened. It was open.
2. According to the stylist who did her hair, not only was the shop already open when Pelosi went in, but it's been open (illegally) since April and the owner has been "forcing"* stylists to come in so she can get paid.
3. Mocking Pelosi for being easy to set up is just dumb. If you make an appointment with a business and they position cameras in order to catch you doing something wrong with the explicit (they accepted the appointment) consent of that business, you can't defend against that.
4. Seriously, how can a business owner blame a customer for being inside their business when that business owner always has the option not to allow customers inside?

Don't get me wrong. Pelosi acted stupidly and the day she leaves Congress will be a great one (she is a truly awful leader of both the House and her party) but going after her for getting her hair done is insanity, especially since female Democrats get slammed all the time by Republicans (and jerks in general) for their appearance.

*Presumably, "forcing" in this case means telling the people who work in her shop that if they don't come in they'll lose their spots and she'll find others to take over.

She only had her mask off because it was off while she got her hair shampooed. I believe that was outdoors. You can see she entered the salon with wet hair. She put it back on for the styling. That part of the video exists. Of course Kious or Fox simply hid that part.

Do you dislike Pelosi because she is effective?


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