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Captain_Swoop 17th December 2021 11:08 AM

Boris forced to get rid of the person investigating whether Boris hosted an illegal Christmas party because the person investigating whether Boris had an illegal Christmas party had an illegal Christmas party!

This is a Two Ronnies sketch!

Carrot Flower King 17th December 2021 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13681919)
There was plenty of sensible tactical voting from Labour and Green supporters.

Tories didn't help themselves by dropping in someone from Birmingham who had to be kept away from the press because of his lack of knowledge of the constituency.

Already heard someone say it's not important because by-elections always go against the party in power and it's just a 'protest vote', nothing to do with Boris or his popularity.

I mean to say, there's mid-term blues and then there is one of the largest swings against the Tories ever seen and in one of the safest of safe seats.

And then there is what both Tory and Lib Dem canvassers (pacé various pieces in the Independent and Guardian) reported voters saying in the constituency about how annoyed they are with BlowJob...

But importing a Brummie to Oswestry was never going to down well and hints that Central Office know nothing and just looked at a map. Although that doesn't explain why the local Tories went along with it.

Mojo 17th December 2021 12:08 PM

Boris Johnson accepts responsibility for North Shropshire byelection mauling

No he doesn’t:
Quote:

However, Johnson went on to claim that the biggest problem of the last few weeks was that what “people have been hearing is a litany of stuff about politics and politicians and stuff that isn’t about them and things we can do to make life better”.

Mojo 17th December 2021 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nessie (Post 13682099)
"The civil servant tasked with investigating claims of a Christmas party at Downing Street last year held his own office party the day before.
Simon Case, the cabinet secretary, attended a Christmas party with a team of his officials on December 17 last year."

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...arty-s3c9zxl0t


Quote:

Both Johnson and Tory chair Oliver Dowden have said they were sure Case’s investigation would find no wrongdoing.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...080842de5fbf87

Captain_Swoop 17th December 2021 05:06 PM

Simon Case has 'stepped aside' from the investigation.
Senior civil servant Sue Gray has taken over.
Apparently No 10 staff have already been interviewed as part of the investigation
What does Sue Gray do now? Start again? Or use evidence which might now seem tainted by being gathered by Case?

Case didn't step aside from the investigation when he knew he was compromised, he stepped aside when we knew.

GlennB 17th December 2021 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13682519)
Simon Case has 'stepped aside' from the investigation.
Senior civil servant Sue Gray has taken over.
Apparently No 10 staff have already been interviewed as part of the investigation
What does Sue Gray do now? Start again? Or use evidence which might now seem tainted by being gathered by Case?

Case didn't step aside from the investigation when he knew he was compromised, he stepped aside when we knew.

We need to investigate Sue Gray first though, in case she had a party. MrsB and I would like to volunteer as we definitely didn't have a party at Xmas last year, though you might want to investigate that.

Dragon 18th December 2021 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13682192)
Boris forced to get rid of the person investigating whether Boris hosted an illegal Christmas party because the person investigating whether Boris had an illegal Christmas party had an illegal Christmas party!

This is a Two Ronnies sketch!

More like The Thick of It I think. It's becoming very hard to satirise Johnson and his clown car of a government.

Vixen 18th December 2021 04:22 AM

When Boris Johnson announced that he, too, was 'furious' and that Simon Case would investigate, I think the whole length and breadth of the UK knew in that instance that Case was also 'making whoopee' at a Christmas party.

Nobody at all is surprised
there are pictures of Case doing a knees up Muvver Brown with Coffey and Gove and a Let's Limbo Together with Bill and Bob, not to mention dancing on the table smashing dinner plates
he has 'recused himself'.

Darat 18th December 2021 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojo (Post 13682234)

How he must lament that he can longer pull out a straight banana!

Surely the perfidious French are up to something that he can point to whilst he runs away?

Carrot Flower King 18th December 2021 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13682812)
How he must lament that he can longer pull out a straight banana!

Surely the perfidious French are up to something that he can point to whilst he runs away?

Imposing travel restrictions which mean that this weekend's round of Heineken Cup matches are disrupted so none of the French teams can be beaten by plucky Brits or Irishies...

It's all so clear when you look.

Didn't save Cardiff from getting stuffed by Quins though.

Captain_Swoop 18th December 2021 12:53 PM

Mail On Sunday tweeted
@MoS_Politics
EXCLUSIVE: Brexit Minister Lord Frost has resigned from Boris Johnson’s Cabinet over the ‘political direction of his Government’. Full details in tomorrow’s Mail on Sunday.

catsmate 18th December 2021 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13683036)
Mail On Sunday tweeted
@MoS_Politics
EXCLUSIVE: Brexit Minister Lord Frost has resigned from Boris Johnson’s Cabinet over the ‘political direction of his Government’. Full details in tomorrow’s Mail on Sunday.

Oh look, a swimming rat....
:rolleyes:

The Don 18th December 2021 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catsmate (Post 13683049)
Oh look, a swimming rat....
:rolleyes:

Only because Boris Johnson is insufficiently cavalier over Covid and won't allow multimillionaires to avoid any tax increases. :rolleyes:

Not a "good guy", more like an even worse guy.:mad:

catsmate 18th December 2021 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13683102)
Only because Boris Johnson is insufficiently cavalier over Covid and won't allow multimillionaires to avoid any tax increases. :rolleyes:

Not a "good guy", more like an even worse guy.:mad:

Can anyone with the UK conservative , except perhaps Ruth Davidson, be considered reasonably" good"?

The Don 18th December 2021 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catsmate (Post 13683108)
Can anyone with the UK conservative , except perhaps Ruth Davidson, be considered reasonably" good"?

As I said upthread, any positive impression of Ruth Davidson, may just be down to a lack of scrutiny. :o

There may be one or two backbenchers who have slipped through the net.

zooterkin 18th December 2021 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catsmate (Post 13683108)
Can anyone with the UK conservative , except perhaps Ruth Davidson, be considered reasonably" good"?

Rory Stewart was, though he's now independent.

Vixen 18th December 2021 04:30 PM

So Frost claims to have quit because:

Quote:

"Sources said that Lord Frost's bombshell has caused 'panic' inside No 10. The Government source said: 'Lord Frost has been among the strongest advocates inside the Cabinet for keeping the country open and for avoiding further legislative control measures to deal with the pandemic. He believes that vaccine passports are an inappropriate measure on principle."
DM

Downloading a vaccine passport is an extremely simple measure, no difficulty to it at all.

IMV the real reason Frost has quit is because of the sheer stress of dealing with Brexit and the Northern Ireland protocols, not to mention the fishing rights.

Come the New Year: Chaos comes into effect.

He's got his knighthood, handsome pension. He's wants to put his feet up.

Garrison 19th December 2021 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vixen (Post 13683194)
So Frost claims to have quit because:

DM

Downloading a vaccine passport is an extremely simple measure, no difficulty to it at all.

IMV the real reason Frost has quit is because of the sheer stress of dealing with Brexit and the Northern Ireland protocols, not to mention the fishing rights.

Come the New Year: Chaos comes into effect.

He's got his knighthood, handsome pension. He's wants to put his feet up.

I mean this the government action he finds unacceptable? Not corruption, second jobs, dumping sewage in our rivers, no trying to keep the NHS from being overwhelmed, that's his breaking point. :rolleyes:

Darat 19th December 2021 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garrison (Post 13683401)
I mean this the government action he finds unacceptable? Not corruption, second jobs, dumping sewage in out rivers, no trying to keep the NHS from being overwhelmed, that's his breaking point. :rolleyes:

Not reading the agreement negotiated apparently by him.....

Captain_Swoop 19th December 2021 04:02 AM

Brexit minister Lord Frost has resigned from the UK government over "concerns about the current direction of travel".
In a letter to Boris Johnson, the peer, who led Brexit negotiations, said he hoped the PM would "not be tempted" by "coercive measures" to tackle Covid.

Health Secretary Sajid Javid said Lord Frost was an "outstanding public servant", telling the BBC's Andrew Marr programme that while he disagreed with his remarks, the minister had "resigned out of principle... and we have to respect that".

The Mail on Sunday, which first reported the news, said he handed in his resignation a week ago, partly in disagreement with Covid curbs.
But in his letter to the prime minister, Lord Frost said now the arrangement to exit in January had been made public, he would leave with "immediate effect".
He wrote that Mr Johnson had been "an outstanding leader" during turbulence over Brexit, and the pair had a "close common understanding" on their aims in that area.

But after saying "Brexit is now secure", he added: "You know my concerns about the current direction of travel.
"I hope we will move as fast as possible to where we need to get to: a lightly regulated, low-tax, entrepreneurial economy, at the cutting edge of modern science and economic change."

Lord Frost moved on to his concerns over the government's handling of the virus, saying the country needed to "learn to live with Covid".

"I know that is your instinct too, you took a brave decision in July, against considerable opposition, to open up the country again.
Sadly it did not prove to be irreversible, as I wished, and believe you did too.
I hope we can get back on track soon and not be tempted by the kind of coercive measures we have seen elsewhere."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59714241

Darat 19th December 2021 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13683415)
...snip...

"I hope we will move as fast as possible to where we need to get to: a lightly regulated, low-tax, entrepreneurial economy, at the cutting edge of modern science and economic change."

....snip...

He can hopefully grab a few consultancies with the Chinese, after all he clearly wants us to become like China...

Carrot Flower King 19th December 2021 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garrison (Post 13683401)
I mean this the government action he finds unacceptable? Not corruption, second jobs, dumping sewage in our rivers, no trying to keep the NHS from being overwhelmed, that's his breaking point. :rolleyes:

Just like all those play tough rebel wannabees, voting against any further Covid restrictions while knowing that Labour would support BlowJob, but nary a squeak about any of those other issues you mention.

Freedom...To take back-handers without any retribution...To pour **** into rivers...To drive the NHS into the ground so they can sell it off to their mates...To make spurious comparisons to both the Nazis and Stalin at the same time...To stick a "y" in your surname instead of "i" to make it look posher...

But wearing a mask, having a small needle in your arm, washing your hands and not having a Christmas party...Oh, noes, we cannot cope with that!

Vixen 19th December 2021 06:17 AM

The problem IMV is with the FPTP system, which I used to think was good. However, the two-party/three-party system doesn't really work, because with an 80-seat majority, the Opposition is ineffective and with the weight of the mass media right-wing owned press against it and in charge of a powerful hegemony that can exhort us - like the comic DAILY EXPRESS - to 'HAVE FAITH IN BORIS'.

The system in Northern Europe, which I had hitherto akinned to weakness, is actually much more democratic and powerful. For example, in Finland, we have an SDP majority party in power, with a Green Foreign Minister and a Swedish-Speaking Party Justice Minister, a Centre Party Home Secretary and a Left Party Education Minister. The Opposition consists of the Conservatives (Kokomus) and the Basic Finns, Perusuomalaiset (= similar to UKIP but with a strong belief in the welfare state). IMV this works well.

It would be great if the UK electoral system gave people like Caroline Lucas of the Greens a chance. Well, the Lib-Dem/Conservative Alliance with Cameron and Clegg was a nightmare but it could work with a broad alliance of the best persons instead of this dull uninspiring two-party fiasco.

Carrot Flower King 19th December 2021 11:21 AM

Hang on a mo!

If the men and women in grey suits do hand BlowJob the revolver and the glass of Scotch, triggering a leadership contest, who will be left holding the fort?

Lemme see now, who is the Officially Designated Deputy PM? **** me, it's Dominic "How clueless am I?" Raaaaaaaaaaaaaab.

I'm going to wake up and find that I'm not in Kansas anymore, aren't I?

Hercules Rockefeller 19th December 2021 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King (Post 13683660)
I'm going to wake up and find that I'm not in Kansas anymore, aren't I?

The band or the state?

zooterkin 19th December 2021 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King (Post 13683660)
Hang on a mo!

If the men and women in grey suits do hand BlowJob the revolver and the glass of Scotch, triggering a leadership contest, who will be left holding the fort?

Lemme see now, who is the Officially Designated Deputy PM? **** me, it's Dominic "How clueless am I?" Raaaaaaaaaaaaaab.

I'm going to wake up and find that I'm not in Kansas anymore, aren't I?

Is that how it works? Doesn't the current leader stay until their replacement is elected? (Given how he somehow avoided any negative mention in Cummings' various revelations, Gove would appear to be in with a chance.)

Lothian 19th December 2021 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zooterkin (Post 13683701)
Is that how it works? Doesn't the current leader stay until their replacement is elected? (Given how he somehow avoided any negative mention in Cummings' various revelations, Gove would appear to be in with a chance.)

Gove has been very very quiet recently.

I suspect there is a reason he is keeping out of the news.

Captain_Swoop 19th December 2021 01:52 PM

NEW: Downing Street staff and Boris Johnson pictured drinking wine in the No 10 garden last May when the rest of the country was limited to meeting just one other person socially outdoors.

Picture in link

https://theguardian.com/politics/202...en-in-may-2020

Captain_Swoop 19th December 2021 01:54 PM

Remember those two women that got arrested for sitting on a bench drinking their coffees?

Captain_Swoop 19th December 2021 02:31 PM

Don’t forget that May 2020 (when the picture of the latest Johnson piss up was taken) was a few weeks AFTER cummings trip for his eye test.
They really do think the rules don’t apply to them.

Darat 19th December 2021 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13683760)
Don’t forget that May 2020 (when the picture of the latest Johnson piss up was taken) was a few weeks AFTER cummings trip for his eye test.
They really do think know the rules don’t apply to them.

FTFY

Darat 19th December 2021 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lothian (Post 13683724)
Gove has been very very quiet recently.

I suspect there is a reason he is keeping out of the news.

Presumably, he is out and about looking for his precious.

Darat 19th December 2021 02:48 PM

Deleted wrong thread!

Wudang 19th December 2021 02:49 PM

https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/st...03437977792517

Quote:

The Financial Times says that while he was in California this week Rishi Sunak failed to attend a roundtable discussion with the UK hospitality sector. Treasury insiders said - and I kid you not - that the meeting clashed with a scheduled call with *US healthcare bosses*.

Captain_Swoop 19th December 2021 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wudang (Post 13683780)

He, along with Boris skipped todays Cobra meeting too.

Captain_Swoop 19th December 2021 04:12 PM

Why would Boris call a Cobra meeting then not turn up? it's not like it wasn't at Downing Street?

Was he drunk or has he ****** off somewhere for the weekend?

Maybe they should have served wine and cheese.

Vixen 19th December 2021 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13683798)
He, along with Boris skipped todays Cobra meeting too.

Stephen Baker was leading it. I wonder if he is going to throw himself into the leadership race, with Truss out of the way doing her trade deals and lumbered with Frost's old job.

P.J. Denyer 20th December 2021 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13683423)
He can hopefully grab a few consultancies with the Chinese, after all he clearly wants us to become like China...

And if things get tight there's always the three hundred & whatever quid a day for showing up at the Lords. Gotta have dinner somewhere, right? May as well be the subsidised restaurant at the place where they pay you for signing in.

Tye only thing he's resigned from is the job he was about to face responsibility for when his 'efforts' hit the fan.

P.J. Denyer 20th December 2021 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13683832)
Why would Boris call a Cobra meeting then not turn up? it's not like it wasn't at Downing Street?

Was he drunk or has he ****** off somewhere for the weekend?

Maybe they should have served wine and cheese.


Can the country afford enough wine to bribe Johnson to do his bloody job?

Darat 20th December 2021 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P.J. Denyer (Post 13684088)
And if things get tight there's always the three hundred & whatever quid a day for showing up at the Lords. Gotta have dinner somewhere, right? May as well be the subsidised restaurant at the place where they pay you for signing in.

Tye only thing he's resigned from is the job he was about to face responsibility for when his 'efforts' hit the fan.

He is now free to really lay into the idiots who negotiated this terrible deal with the EU!


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