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jimbob 25th January 2022 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13713163)
The smell never did come out, they simply sprayed some Febreze on it, this is simply the tory party being the tory party with a man with no sense of shame at the top.

Go back even 10 years and there would be no way a PM could have stayed in place being investigated by civil servants and the police with such unambiguous evidence.

Yes, Putin must be finding it hilarious.

It's interesting that Sunak has now been tarred with this as well.

Someone damaging a potential competitor?

Lothian 25th January 2022 01:39 PM

If Moggy is not lighting cigars with £50 notes and Cammy is not shagging a pig's head is it really a party?

jimbob 25th January 2022 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lothian (Post 13713189)
If Moggy is not lighting cigars with £50 notes and Cammy is not shagging a pig's head is it really a party?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbob (Post 13713146)
It's not a party unless you've burned a few £50 notes under the noses of homeless people (and Johnson then scrabbles to pick up the ash)

Great minds

(and ours)

Darat 25th January 2022 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbob (Post 13713185)
Yes, Putin must be finding it hilarious.

It's interesting that Sunak has now been tarred with this as well.

Someone damaging a potential competitor?

Gove presumably.

GlennB 25th January 2022 04:18 PM

Is it zugzwangWP for Johnson? Hard to see what he can usefully do here.

shuttlt 25th January 2022 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13713258)
Gove presumably.

Whenever I think of Gove, I remember Paula Yates calling Ian Hislop a "sperm of the devil".

P.J. Denyer 25th January 2022 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13713126)
Rishi Sunak accidentally went to Boris Johnson's No 10 birthday event

Apparently he was present when the birthday cake was served but was unaware it was going to happen as he'd gone to the room specifically for COVID strategy committee meeting.

He accidently went to the party thinking it was a meeting, the interior designer accidently went to the party as she wanted to speak to the PM about the wallpaper, Carrie accidently went to the meeting because.?

I can hear him now

"I accidentally entered a room full of drunk revellers singing 'Happy Birthday Big Dog', & spilling cheap beer over me. But I stayed to complete what I would later describe as a strategy meeting. After a slice of delightful cake & a polite amount of champagne, I promptly left."

The Withnail & I government.

jimbob 25th January 2022 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by P.J. Denyer (Post 13713370)
The Withnail & I government.

https://twitter.com/JasonGood/status...332520453?s=20

Quote:

“We came to your birthday party by mistake.”

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJ-Lf5HW...jpg&name=small

Captain_Swoop 25th January 2022 05:29 PM

Newsnight now reporting of the £72 billion given in bounce back loans, £21 billion likely to be written off at the tax payers expense.

Only 2 people vetting the applications which was “woefully inadequate”.

The Don 26th January 2022 01:49 AM

Ministers are lining up to back Boris Johnson which leads me to think that they've been tipped off that Sue Gray's report completely exonerates him....

...and by completely exonerates I mean that there isn't quite enough hard evidence to establish that what he did was illegal.

Doubtless a lot of evidence has been destroyed, and a lot more ignored because of the tight remit of the investigation but it'll be enough for the Conservatives to claim that everything is OK and Boris Johnson will at least lead them into the local elections.

We'll now be asked to ignore this "distraction" because of the crisis in Ukraine, Covid success, France being big meanies over Brexit or whatever else can be found to distract us. :mad:

Captain_Swoop 26th January 2022 02:15 AM

John Redwood tweets
@johnredwood
·
2h
The BBC wants to interview me about parties but has no wish to hear views on taxes, the energy shortage, the income squeeze, the wrong OBR forecasts of the debts and the policies to import more and produce less. The public is less interested in past parties than they think.

The Don 26th January 2022 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13713607)
John Redwood tweets
@johnredwood
·
2h
The BBC wants to interview me about parties but has no wish to hear views on taxes, the energy shortage, the income squeeze, the wrong OBR forecasts of the debts and the policies to import more and produce less. The public is less interested in past parties than they think.

Correct me if I'm wrong but:
  • The increase in National Insurance was announced by the Conservatives. They don't get to be the cause of and the solution to the problem at the same time
  • The government has no plans to tackle the energy shortage
  • The income squeeze has largely been caused by the government's policies and they voted against a Labour Party proposal to ameliorate it somewhat by removing VAT on fuel
  • Importing more and producing less is a direct result of this government's terrible management of Brexit and the trade deals they have negotiated which are highly disadvantageous to the UK

IOW he wants to deflect scrutiny from one area of government incompetence by drawing focus to several other areas where they have cocked things up right-royally. :confused::boggled:

zooterkin 26th January 2022 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GlennB (Post 13713327)
Is it zugzwangWP for Johnson? Hard to see what he can usefully do here.

Johnson, useful? :eek:

Carrot Flower King 26th January 2022 03:39 AM

So, Lulu Lyttle was present in Downing Street on the day of BlowJob's birthday party because she was working on the re-fit...

And yet in the following November BlowJob is tapping up Brownlow for money as Lulu was keen to get started on the re-fit...

Is she a ******* Time Lord or what? Does the re-fit include a Tardis module?

Captain_Swoop 26th January 2022 04:08 AM

There were restrictions on allowing people in to your home to do work at the time.

The Don 26th January 2022 07:35 AM

Once again, Boris Johnson is proven to be a lying liar. It was claimed that Boris Johnson had intervened to make sure that animals from a high profile shelter were evacuated when allies were left behind but Boris Johnson denied that he had.

Turns out that there was evidence that he had.

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Boris Johnson authorised the evacuation of animals from Afghanistan during the fall of Kabul, according to emails leaked by a whistleblower.

The PM has previously dismissed as "nonsense" claims he intervened in the evacuation of the Nowzad charity, run by former Royal Marine Pen Farthing.

But an email from an official in minister Zac Goldsmith's office suggests he was personally involved.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60143279

It's not just that they're taking us for mugs, it's that they're so brazen about it and/or so incompetent at covering their tracks although at this stage it seems more like a deliberate flex than incompetence.

The Don 26th January 2022 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13713634)
There were restrictions on allowing people in to your home to do work at the time.

Ah yes but numbers 10, 11 and 12 Downing Street are both homes and work places so I'm sure that an interpretation can be found that shows that, strictly speaking, Boris Johnson didn't break the rules dozens of times. ;)

P.J. Denyer 26th January 2022 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13713634)
There were restrictions on allowing people in to your home to do work at the time.

It was allowed if it was an emergency. Shame she wasn't removing that wallpaper, it might have qualified!

Ian Osborne 26th January 2022 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13713755)
Once again, Boris Johnson is proven to be a lying liar. It was claimed that Boris Johnson had intervened to make sure that animals from a high profile shelter were evacuated when allies were left behind but Boris Johnson denied that he had.

Turns out that there was evidence that he had.

How many lies can that bloke tell before they bury him?

Darat 26th January 2022 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian Osborne (Post 13714042)
How many lies can that bloke tell before they bury him?

He is probably thinking “They all knew I was a compulsive liar when they elected me, what did they think I’d do?”

Captain_Swoop 26th January 2022 03:26 PM

Kate McCann (Political Correspondent at Sky News) tweeted
@KateEMcCann
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1h
Trudy Harrison, PM's PPS, contacted a private charter company on 25 Aug 21 (same date as FCO letter) to secure plane to evacuate animals and staff for Nowzad. A private sponsor funded, but she made clear her role with PM and told staff he was keen to get animals out quickly.

Source at the company said Harrison was keen to get press on the plane to watch animals being evacuated to turn it into a good news story. They added she repeatedly talked about "the boss" and they felt it was obvious her requests came with his backing.

Harrison confirmed to Sky she did contact a number of companies to help "as a constituency MP" (but none of her constituents were directly involved). She admits she did tell staff she was PPS to PM but states Boris Johnson was not involved in any plans around evacuation.

It is notable that her first contact with the charter company, the FCO email (new today) and her letter published weeks ago on same issue all happened on 25 August 21. Dominic Dyer, who worked with Pen Farthing, told Sky PM got involved directly on 25, which unblocked the issues

A No10 spox said: "The PM had no role in authorising individual evacuations from Afghanistan during Op PITTING, including Nowzad staff and animals. At no point did the PM instruct staff to take any particular course of action on Nowzad."

Captain_Swoop 26th January 2022 03:31 PM

Gavin Barwell tweeted
@GavinBarwell
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14h
I've been a Conservative councillor, MP and Minister, the Party's Director of Campaigning and Chief of Staff to a Conservative Prime Minister. But it turns out that because I believe Prime Ministers should obey the laws they impose on the rest of us, I'm a leftie

Quote Tweet
BHAFC_#LBFB
@LorenzoBrauer
· 15h
Replying to @GavinBarwell
The only ppl who are angry are you lefties. This is a press witch hunt nothing more. He’s going nowhere.

Captain_Swoop 26th January 2022 03:32 PM

Barwell a Leftie?

That's quite a shift in the Overton window.

The Don 27th January 2022 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13714195)
Barwell a Leftie?

That's quite a shift in the Overton window.

Maybe it's going to be like the US, you're only a true conservative if you show complete loyalty to the Glorious Leader. ;)

Samson 27th January 2022 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Prometheus (Post 13708698)
I'd trade you guys Trump for Johnson in a heartbeat. Just sayin'...

Agreed. Johnson will take his medicine like Socrates.

Carrot Flower King 27th January 2022 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13714195)
Barwell a Leftie?

That's quite a shift in the Overton window.

It looks to me like "lefty" is being defined as those who value honesty, integrity, competence, ability, a capacity for critical thought, an awareness of the needs of others, among other things.

In which case, count me in!

We'll ignore my voting history and pretty much everything I have ever said about politics, economics, social issues, environmental issues, or pretty much anything...As that might be a bit of a give away as to where my views lie.

jimbob 27th January 2022 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King (Post 13714646)
It looks to me like "lefty" is being defined as those who value honesty, integrity, competence, ability, a capacity for critical thought, an awareness of the needs of others, among other things.

In which case, count me in!

We'll ignore my voting history and pretty much everything I have ever said about politics, economics, social issues, environmental issues, or pretty much anything...As that might be a bit of a give away as to where my views lie.

And the thing is, there are people who are naturally conservative in both the US and UK who have no party as they also believe in decency. I can think of several posters here who fit that bill.

Captain_Swoop 27th January 2022 03:29 PM

SKY BREAKING NEWS

BREAKING NEWS: New photos show Boris drinking with the Berkeley Hunt at get together during first lockdown. More to follow…

jimbob 27th January 2022 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13715337)
SKY BREAKING NEWS

BREAKING NEWS: New photos show Boris drinking with the Berkeley Hunt at get together during first lockdown. More to follow…

There is what looks like a fake account called SKY BREAKING NEWS

ETA: Yes

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sphenisc 27th January 2022 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbob (Post 13715342)
There is what looks like a fake account called SKY BREAKING NEWS

ETA: Yes

Attachment 46169

Yeah that did seem a bit on the nose.

Mojo 27th January 2022 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sphenisc (Post 13715346)
Yeah that did seem a bit on the nose.


I thought it was rhyming slang, I was just wondering which one.

GlennB 27th January 2022 04:06 PM

nm

Captain_Swoop 27th January 2022 04:10 PM

I thought it was obvious it was a joke, sorry.

Like the posts by Sir Michael Take CBE

jimbob 27th January 2022 05:15 PM

Yes, but if I told you in January 2020* that there would be a defence of the PM for an obvious lie including "ambushed by cake" you'd probably think THAT would have to have been satire.


*Or even October 2021

jimbob 27th January 2022 05:16 PM

The Overton window for satire has gone way out. Forget Kissinger getting the Nobel Peace Prize.

MarkCorrigan 27th January 2022 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13714116)
He is probably thinking “They all knew I was a compulsive liar when they elected me, what did they think I’d do?”

Which is actually something of a fair point. Boris Johnson is a nasty, racist, manipulative liar and a buffoon, but he didn't magically appear as leader of the country. The small minded little-Englanders elected his party, and by extension him.

I miss Cameron. I didn't like him one bit but at least he wasn't...this.

jimbob 28th January 2022 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbob (Post 13715429)
The Overton window for satire has gone way out. Forget Kissinger getting the Nobel Peace Prize.


Case in point.

The Met is not objecting to Sue Gray's report being published as long as it redacts anything that they're investigating.

Captain_Swoop 28th January 2022 03:01 AM

Met Police seeks limits to Sue Gray No 10 parties report
.The Metropolitan Police has asked senior civil servant Sue Gray to make "minimal reference" to events they are investigating in her report.

Ms Gray's inquiry into lockdown parties in Downing Street had been due to be released this week.

But the Met has asked her to leave out details of parties they are investigating for Covid rule-breaking.

In a statement, it said it wanted to "avoid any prejudice to our investigation".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60166997

Captain_Swoop 28th January 2022 03:05 AM

The problem here is straightforward. The Govt and The Met are fundamentally untrustworthy. They will collaborate at the highest level to ensure the best possible outcome for themselves

How would a factual civil service report about events the police is investigating "prejudice" their investigation?

The Don 28th January 2022 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13715716)
Met Police seeks limits to Sue Gray No 10 parties report
.The Metropolitan Police has asked senior civil servant Sue Gray to make "minimal reference" to events they are investigating in her report.

Ms Gray's inquiry into lockdown parties in Downing Street had been due to be released this week.

But the Met has asked her to leave out details of parties they are investigating for Covid rule-breaking.

In a statement, it said it wanted to "avoid any prejudice to our investigation".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60166997

Well the Met have played an absolute blinder for the government there. ;)

If there is any evidence of wrongdoing, then that must be redacted (because the Met will be investigating anything where there is evidence of wrongdoing) so by definition the report can only contain references to cases where there is no wrongdoing.

The published report will exonerate the government, and whenever the Met report is published in months or years time, it'll be too late and we'll all have forgotten.


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