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Crossbow 1st April 2022 05:28 AM

As per usual, Donald Trump has created yet another miserable failure.

This time, it is his new social media web site "Truth Social" that is quickly failing. And this is the same web site that Trump promised would be so very great and so very wonderful.

Instead, the truth is that "Truth Social" is failing just like his many failed promises of health care reform when he was the President.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-tr...135917666.html

Donald Trump's Truth Social App Is Failing Fantastically, Report Says

Donald Trump’s Truth Social app has plummeted in sign-ups and traffic since its technically challenged launch last month, The Wrap reported Tuesday.

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“This is down 93% from its launch week, when it saw 872,000 installs during the week of Feb. 21,” Stephanie Chan of the analytics site Sensor Tower told The Wrap. “We estimate that Truth Social has so far reached approximately 1.2 million installs since its launch.”

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Trump has been so perturbed by the stumbling rollout that he was heard asking, “What the ***** is going on?” on the phone, The Daily Beast reported.

Aridas 2nd April 2022 01:59 PM

To poke at one of Fox News' recent bones...

Laura Ingraham Advocates Government Punishing Corporations They Disagree With

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Ingraham begins this harangue by threatening to "cancel" Disney with a boycott that she mistakenly thinks millions of Americans will embrace. Let's just aside the fact that such actions are often criticized by the right. They are nothing if not hypocritical. In fact. Donald Trump is the undisputed King of Cancel Culture.

What makes this tirade even more repugnant is Ingraham proposing that government abuse its power to punish corporations that refuse to fall in line with their partisan goals. She is pushing an oppressive authoritarian agenda. And she isn't the least bit subtle about it. In a country where Ingraham's Republican confederates are in charge, private businesses will be forced to subjugate themselves to the state or suffer the consequences.

Ingraham doesn't say what constitutional means she would employ to challenge a company's copyrights and trademarks. Probably because there aren't any. And while antitrust laws can provide a valid protection of consumer rights. Ingraham is explicit that she wouldn't be pursuing them on behalf of consumers, but rather only "when Republicans get back into power."

Ingraham is not alone on Fox News fronting for fascism, and making Disney the scapegoat for their despotic dystopia. It's a network wide initiative. Media Matter has documented that just within the past week, "Fox has been laser-focused on the story, mentioning 'Disney' over 350 times this week, and dedicating over 3 hours of coverage, and at least 53 segments, to it."

By contrast, stories such as Trump asking Putin for dirt on Hunter Biden, and Madison Cawthorn's tales of GOP cocaine fueled orgies, and Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas' wife plotting with Trump's chief of staff to stage a coup, received little or no coverage on Fox News. Meanwhile, Fox is busy attacking Disney - yes, Disney! - as child pornographers upon whom the government must stomp its fascist boot. That must be part of their "MAGA movement to Make America Goofy Again."
For all that I am greatly in favor of having the influence of corporations limited, I absolutely do not support this kind of reasoning and impetus to do so. The influence of corporations certainly should be limited so that consumers cannot be profiteered off so easily, so that effective monopolies are not running the shows, so that they do not have undue sway in decision-making, and the like. This, though, has nothing to do with the good of the people, making society healthier and more stable, or making the future better. This is just naked authoritarian power trip stuff.

From that threatening rant -

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Ingraham: When Republicans get back into power, Apple and Disney have to understand one thing: Everything will be on the table, your copyright/trademark protection, your special status in certain states, and even your corporate structure itself…

Stacyhs 2nd April 2022 02:45 PM

Ingraham is a repugnant POS. I'd love to 'cancel' her.

Norman Alexander 2nd April 2022 03:53 PM

Ingraham is what happens when Letters To The Editor of Der Stürmer are put on TV.

Stacyhs 2nd April 2022 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13772894)
Ingraham is what happens when Letters To The Editor of Der Stürmer are put on TV.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Armitage72 2nd April 2022 06:35 PM

In the lead up to the 2016 Republican primaries, she repeatedly said that the GOP would face a revolt from "real Republicans" if they nominated "another establishment Republican" as the candidate. She's always supported the more extreme elements of the party.

Stacyhs 2nd April 2022 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armitage72 (Post 13772979)
In the lead up to the 2016 Republican primaries, she repeatedly said that the GOP would face a revolt from "real Republicans" if they nominated "another establishment Republican" as the candidate. She's always supported the more extreme elements of the party.

Palin is an idiot.

Armitage72 3rd April 2022 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13773005)
Palin is an idiot.


I don't disagree, but I was talking about Ingraham. :D

Stacyhs 3rd April 2022 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Armitage72 (Post 13773249)
I don't disagree, but I was talking about Ingraham. :D

So you were....I think I had Palin on my mind because she announced she's running for Congress. Just what we need; another whackadoodle in Congress.:rolleyes:

Captain_Swoop 4th April 2022 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13771579)
Why do I see Burt Lancaster playing the role of Greg Locke?

Yes, it has 'Night Of The Hunter' overtones.

BobTheCoward 4th April 2022 06:41 AM

Fox news hosts are the news equivalent of Skip Bayless.

Stacyhs 4th April 2022 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13773949)
Yes, it has 'Night Of The Hunter' overtones.

And Elmer Gantry.

Regnad Kcin 4th April 2022 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13773949)
Yes, it has 'Night Of The Hunter' overtones.

I enjoyed “Night of the Hunter II - The Laptop Strikes Back”.

Parsman 5th April 2022 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13773949)
Yes, it has 'Night Of The Hunter' overtones.

Pedant mode. Robert Mitchum?

Stacyhs 5th April 2022 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin (Post 13774754)
I enjoyed “Night of the Hunter II - The Laptop Strikes Back”.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

SuburbanTurkey 5th April 2022 12:04 PM

Newest thing is for right wingers to call everyone that is opposed to anti-LGBT legislation, or really anyone at all they don't like, a "groomer", aka a pedophile.

A thinly veiled call for violence against their political enemies.

Captain_Swoop 5th April 2022 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parsman (Post 13774946)
Pedant mode. Robert Mitchum?

Yes.

dudalb 5th April 2022 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey (Post 13775643)
Newest thing is for right wingers to call everyone that is opposed to anti-LGBT legislation, or really anyone at all they don't like, a "groomer", aka a pedophile.

A thinly veiled call for violence against their political enemies.

Which is why I keep on telling the Dems it's time to buy a gun....

TheGoldcountry 5th April 2022 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13773464)
So you were....I think I had Palin on my mind because she announced she's running for Congress. Just what we need; another whackadoodle in Congress.:rolleyes:

She also thinks AOC should debate her, for some odd reason. I'm not sure why she thinks a sitting member of Congress should waste her time with every whackjob, but she lives in her own reality.

Aridas 5th April 2022 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey (Post 13775643)
Newest thing is for right wingers to call everyone that is opposed to anti-LGBT legislation, or really anyone at all they don't like, a "groomer", aka a pedophile.

A thinly veiled call for violence against their political enemies.

Two points. First, I think that it's not actually a newest thing so much as just getting more play this time around. Second, a "groomer" is a significant step worse than just a pedophile. Being a pedophile doesn't actually imply acting on said pedophilia. Being a groomer, on the other hand, involves actively working to train the children to serve pedophiles' desires. That's pretty much the most objectionable and outrage-worthy version. At present, it also happens to play into Q BS, incidentally, which means stochastic terrorism potential that needs to be guarded against by those accused.

Norman Alexander 5th April 2022 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGoldcountry (Post 13775884)
She also thinks AOC should debate her, for some odd reason. I'm not sure why she thinks a sitting member of Congress should waste her time with every whackjob, but she lives in her own reality.

Publicity, pure and simple.

Btw, AOC would wipe the floor with her, rinse her out in a slop bucket, and pour her out into the gutter where she belongs.

bruto 5th April 2022 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13776143)
Publicity, pure and simple.

Btw, AOC would wipe the floor with her, rinse her out in a slop bucket, and pour her out into the gutter where she belongs.

Whereupon she would announce her victory, and her base would slurp it up like hogs in a melon patch.

Stacyhs 6th April 2022 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13776143)
Publicity, pure and simple.

Btw, AOC would wipe the floor with her, rinse her out in a slop bucket, and pour her out into the gutter where she belongs.

Exactly like HRC did to Trump.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruto (Post 13776184)
Whereupon she would announce her victory, and her base would slurp it up like hogs in a melon patch.

Exactly like Trump and the Trumpers did in 2016.

Lordy, I enjoyed those debates. Well, it was a debate on one side. The other was just a ****show.

shemp 6th April 2022 05:54 AM

Mike Lindell gets served:

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...44176470220805

newyorkguy 6th April 2022 06:16 AM

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Great video. I love the way Lindell accepts the manila envelope without question. Then the light bulb goes on:
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What just happened? :confused:
On Twitter, in the replies, several people try to allege Lindell wasn't legally served, that the process server has to inform Lindell or it doesn't count. Then it's pointed out the process server tells Lindell, audible on the video, "They're court documents."

The sad thing is, all the fools who got involved in trump schemes, some will wind up paying a high price. Lindell is a case in point. He's got conclusive proof the election was rigged? It's not always going to be 2021. The calendar moves on, times change, people change. What seemed hilarious in 2020 or 2021 may seem very ugly in 2022 or 2023.

ponderingturtle 6th April 2022 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGoldcountry (Post 13775884)
She also thinks AOC should debate her, for some odd reason. I'm not sure why she thinks a sitting member of Congress should waste her time with every whackjob, but she lives in her own reality.

Why is Palin running for congress in the same district and AOC?

Crossbow 6th April 2022 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by shemp (Post 13776430)

Thanks much for the update.

And I noticed that just recently that Trump kind-of/sort-of admitted to the obvious fact that he did not win the 2020 election.

Also, his son-in-law Jared and the daughter that Trump wants to have sex with Ivanka, recently gave a considerable amount of testimony to the 'Jan 6 commission'.

And now that Lindell is in additional trouble, then I expect that Trump will follow his usual pattern and soon throw his good buddy Lindell under the first bus that Trump can find.

Because the main Trump survival technique is, 'When the going gets tough, then Trump will find a scapegoat to take the blame'.

Delphic Oracle 6th April 2022 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by newyorkguy (Post 13776449)
Great video. I love the way Lindell accepts the manila envelope without question. Then the light bulb goes on:





On Twitter, in the replies, several people try to allege Lindell wasn't legally served, that the process server has to inform Lindell or it doesn't count. Then it's pointed out the process server tells Lindell, audible on the video, "They're court documents."



The sad thing is, all the fools who got involved in trump schemes, some will wind up paying a high price. Lindell is a case in point. He's got conclusive proof the election was rigged? It's not always going to be 2021. The calendar moves on, times change, people change. What seemed hilarious in 2020 or 2021 may seem very ugly in 2022 or 2023.

Process servers have to be very slick because people are slick in evading process of service.

This is two kinds of typical human reflex being used to facilitate the exchange.

First, a person will generally accept an item being handed to them in a casual manner, merely if to prevent the near certainty of it falling to the ground when the other person releases it. Kudos to the server for really committing to their camouflage, also.

Then, the natural spike of curiosity seconds later as the deliverer walks away without a word. Now the recipient's full attention is on them and the declaration is made in a way that cannot be dismissed as "I didn't hear what they said."

dudalb 6th April 2022 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle (Post 13776616)
Process servers have to be very slick because people are slick in evading process of service.

This is two kinds of typical human reflex being used to facilitate the exchange.

First, a person will generally accept an item being handed to them in a casual manner, merely if to prevent the near certainty of it falling to the ground when the other person releases it. Kudos to the server for really committing to their camouflage, also.

Then, the natural spike of curiosity seconds later as the deliverer walks away without a word. Now the recipient's full attention is on them and the declaration is made in a way that cannot be dismissed as "I didn't hear what they said."

My own favorite fictional process server bit is Tony Stark in Iron Man 2.

Crossbow 7th April 2022 06:55 AM

Wow! Oh wow!

Now Trump is trying to distance himself from the January 6 riot while also saying that he wanted to join the January 6 march.

Trump is also saying that he was not responsible for what happened on January 6 and that he hated seeing the destruction. Trump also went on to say that he did not destroy any records and that he did not use any non-official phones on January 6.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-reg...133228218.html

Trump Regrets Not Marching To Capitol On Jan. 6, Blames Pelosi For Violence

Former President Donald Trump said he wished he could have joined his supporters in marching on the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

“Secret Service said I couldn’t go,” Trump told The Washington Post during an interview at his Mar-a-Lago club. “I would have gone there in a minute.”

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“I thought it was a shame, and I kept asking why isn’t she doing something about it?” Trump said. “Why isn’t Nancy Pelosi doing something about it? And the mayor of D.C. also. The mayor of D.C. and Nancy Pelosi are in charge.”

“I hated seeing it. And I said, ‘It’s got to be taken care of,’ and I assumed they were taking care of it,” he added.

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The former president said he didn’t “remember getting very many” phone calls during the seven-hour period missing from White House phone records for Jan. 6. He said he spoke to House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, Rep. Jim Jordan and others, but maintained he did not destroy any records or use other phones.

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Regnad Kcin 7th April 2022 09:44 AM

Another day, another several dozen lies from Trump.

Resume 7th April 2022 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Crossbow (Post 13777480)
Wow! Oh wow!

Now Trump is trying to distance himself from the January 6 riot while also saying that he wanted to join the January 6 march.

Trump is also saying that he was not responsible for what happened on January 6 and that he hated seeing the destruction. Trump also went on to say that he did not destroy any records and that he did not use any non-official phones on January 6.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-reg...133228218.html

Trump Regrets Not Marching To Capitol On Jan. 6, Blames Pelosi For Violence

Former President Donald Trump said he wished he could have joined his supporters in marching on the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

“Secret Service said I couldn’t go,” Trump told The Washington Post during an interview at his Mar-a-Lago club. “I would have gone there in a minute.”

...

“I thought it was a shame, and I kept asking why isn’t she doing something about it?” Trump said. “Why isn’t Nancy Pelosi doing something about it? And the mayor of D.C. also. The mayor of D.C. and Nancy Pelosi are in charge.”

“I hated seeing it. And I said, ‘It’s got to be taken care of,’ and I assumed they were taking care of it,” he added.

...

The former president said he didn’t “remember getting very many” phone calls during the seven-hour period missing from White House phone records for Jan. 6. He said he spoke to House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, Rep. Jim Jordan and others, but maintained he did not destroy any records or use other phones.

...

Draft-dodgin', fake bone-spurrin', chicken- ****in', forever-lyin' Donnie Depends **** out more lies.

Stacyhs 7th April 2022 11:51 AM

If anyone believes that pile of dog poop Donnie just spouted, they're an idiot.

Captain_Swoop 7th April 2022 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey (Post 13775643)
Newest thing is for right wingers to call everyone that is opposed to anti-LGBT legislation, or really anyone at all they don't like, a "groomer", aka a pedophile.

A thinly veiled call for violence against their political enemies.

Anti-trans activists are increasingly resorting to calling gay men "groomers", because the anti-trans panic is leading to a general anti-LGBTQ backlash, including back to portraying gay men as paedophiles.

Stacyhs 7th April 2022 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13777868)
Anti-trans activists are increasingly resorting to calling gay men "groomers", because the anti-trans panic is leading to a general anti-LGBTQ backlash, including back to portraying gay men as paedophiles.

The GOP truly does want to take the country back to the accepted bigotry and racism of the pre-civil rights era.

Captain_Swoop 7th April 2022 03:02 PM

Before this is all over there will be a mass shooting at a Disney theme park.

johnny karate 7th April 2022 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13777868)
Anti-trans activists are increasingly resorting to calling gay men "groomers", because the anti-trans panic is leading to a general anti-LGBTQ backlash, including back to portraying gay men as paedophiles.

The anti-LGBTQ sentiment among conservatives never went anywhere. They just feel emboldened again to legislate it because they have a 6-3 majority on the Supreme Court.

Just like bigotry and hatred in general were always baked in to conservatism. It was always there, simmering below the surface, and then Trump made it okay for them to be open about it.

Aridas 7th April 2022 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13777868)
Anti-trans activists are increasingly resorting to calling gay men "groomers", because the anti-trans panic is leading to a general anti-LGBTQ backlash, including back to portraying gay men as paedophiles.

To poke at this subject a bit more somewhat arbitrarily... Some Tennessee Republicans decided to try to create a new form of marriage that happens to be limited to only being for a man and a woman, with the very poorly hidden intent to have it replace the current marriage rules. Of particular note, there was no age restriction in these replacement rules. So out with gay marriage, back in with child marriage. After significant outcry, an amendment was just added to deal with that, but that brings us back to a simple question. In reality, who are the groomers in the US? Certainly, the GOP harbors the main forces in opposition to laws to stop child marriage, though there are some Democrats, too, much as the reasoning frequently differs there. The partisan divide in actual practice of child marriage isn't uniform either, of course, but seems to be more culturally based. Moving onto pedophilia, itself, then. At last check, straight men and gay men were roughly equally likely to be pedophiles, which also means that there's a heck of a lot more straight pedophiles. Going a bit further, there's also this - Do Gay Men Have More Sexual Interest in Children Than Straight Men Do?
We have solid proof, based on penile blood flow, that it's actually heterosexual men who show greater sexual attraction to underage kids.


All things considered, I'm largely inclined to treat the gay "groomer" issue as fundamentally being a mix of projection, cynical emotional trigger to get people to overlook how evil and harmful what they're pushing actually is, and homophobia, rather than any one of those in particular.

Stacyhs 7th April 2022 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aridas (Post 13778252)
To poke at this subject a bit more somewhat arbitrarily... Some Tennessee Republicans decided to try to create a new form of marriage that happens to be limited to only being for a man and a woman, with the very poorly hidden intent to have it replace the current marriage rules. Of particular note, there was no age restriction in these replacement rules. So out with gay marriage, back in with child marriage. After significant outcry, an amendment was just added to deal with that, but that brings us back to a simple question. In reality, who are the groomers in the US? Certainly, the GOP harbors the main forces in opposition to laws to stop child marriage, though there are some Democrats, too, much as the reasoning frequently differs there. The partisan divide in actual practice of child marriage isn't uniform either, of course, but seems to be more culturally based. Moving onto pedophilia, itself, then. At last check, straight men and gay men were roughly equally likely to be pedophiles, which also means that there's a heck of a lot more straight pedophiles. Going a bit further, there's also this - Do Gay Men Have More Sexual Interest in Children Than Straight Men Do?
We have solid proof, based on penile blood flow, that it's actually heterosexual men who show greater sexual attraction to underage kids.


All things considered, I'm largely inclined to treat the gay "groomer" issue as fundamentally being a mix of projection, cynical emotional trigger to get people to overlook how evil and harmful what they're pushing actually is, and homophobia, rather than any one of those in particular.

Agreed.

I said several posts ago that all they had to do was add a minimum age to the bill to fix the 'problem'.

bruto 8th April 2022 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13777871)
The GOP truly does want to take the country back to the accepted bigotry and racism of the pre-civil rights era.

Of course, they never gave it up. Look at the efforts now by some even to reverse the Supreme Court decision on allowing birth control!


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