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Captain_Swoop 6th September 2020 07:56 PM

Trump Tweets

A massive Disinformation Campaign is going on by the Democrats, their partner, the Fake News Media, & Big Tech. They create false stories and then push them like has never been done before, even beyond the 2016 Campaign. It imperils our Country, and must stop now. Victory 2020!

Ladewig 6th September 2020 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13214941)
Trump Tweets

A massive Disinformation Campaign is going on by the Democrats, their partner, the Fake News Media, & Big Tech. They create false stories and then push them like has never been done before, even beyond the 2016 Campaign. It imperils our Country, and must stop now. Victory 2020!

I suppose DJT could be aware of the 1890s, Pulitzer, Hearst, and Yelliw Journalism, and that he is simply ignoring all that because he knows most Americans don’t know American history.

And I suppose DJT doesn’t know jack about any US or world history that is not related in some way to his properties.

........
Every day it is a challenge to determine which of his traits annoys me the most

ignorance
stupidity
self-centeredness
contempt for evidence
petulance
sexism
racism
hypocrisy
vanity
the lengths to which he goes to avoid even the appearance of a mistake

Lupus 6th September 2020 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aridas (Post 13214683)
Some varieties, perhaps. I admit that I'm using the term a little loosely, though, and have no problem with agreeing to use a more accurate term, if you'd like to suggest such?

My answer is "Whatever meaning were you trying to use".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aridas (Post 13214683)
Nice try at a gotcha. It works at a very superficial level, of course, but not really much past that on real examination. To tie this together with the previous statement, though... when, for example, big fossil fuel providers have *known* with great certainty about their role in climate change for longer than most people have been alive and much about the consequences of such, and their leadership, in libertarian fashion, decided that it's not as important as increasing profits right then - to the point that they've spent big for a long time on creating and sowing disinformation and doubt to prevent action that would reduce immediate profits, but also help make things much more sustainable, that's a problem. When that works, as it has far better on the "conservative side" of things for a number of reasons, of course there will be less alarm about a problem that isn't being recognized as real.

But liberals do think it's real though, so it still works as a way liberals are driven by fear. For hate, Trump and every republican current president are good examples. I put the reason why in the dedicated global warming thread.

Stacyhs 6th September 2020 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13214941)
Trump Tweets

A massive Disinformation Campaign is going on by the Democrats, their partner, the Fake News Media, & Big Tech. They create false stories and then push them like has never been done before, even beyond the 2016 Campaign. It imperils our Country, and must stop now. Victory 2020!

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Cough up a new one, Donnie! This one, or a variation thereof, reached its expiration date a long time ago. Use some imagination.

Lurch 6th September 2020 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13214937)
Trump retweets

Andrew Surabian
@Surabees
It says everything about how broken the media is that after @JeffreyGoldberg helped lie this nation into the Iraq War, he wasn't run out of journalism in embarrassment, but rather given promotions to continue his shoddy "journalism" unabated. Our "elites" constantly fail upwards.

Sometimes yer right, Andrew. Trump claims to be of the 'elite', and sure as hell he "failed upwards."

Lurch 6th September 2020 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lupus (Post 13214977)
My answer is "Whatever meaning were you trying to use".



But liberals do think it's real though, so it still works as a way liberals are driven by fear. For hate, Trump and every republican current president are good examples. I put the reason why in the dedicated global warming thread.

I suppose fear of vast tracts of the planet becoming uninhabitable or unfit for agriculture is more irrational than fear of brown-skinned people.

Is a 'leader' who is demonstrably in the pocket of a foreign power, who is not hauled before a court of law because of the protection afforded by a DOJ memo, not deserving of hate? A man is judged by the company he keeps; practically all in Trump's orbit are criminals and grifters. And look at the number of former associates, etc., who got to see him up close and are now spilling the tea. I guess *everything* uncomfortably negative about the scumbag is "fake news", eh?

Skeptic Ginger 6th September 2020 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13215017)
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Cough up a new one, Donnie! This one, or a variation thereof, reached its expiration date a long time ago. Use some imagination.

Pretty much every word Donnie one note uses fits that definition.

Skeptic Ginger 6th September 2020 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lupus (Post 13214977)
But liberals do think it's real though, so it still works as a way liberals are driven by fear. For hate, Trump and every republican current president are good examples. I put the reason why in the dedicated global warming thread.

:dl:

I'm pretty sure the party of fear mongering starts with an R not a D.

The Great Zaganza 7th September 2020 12:02 AM

RE: Trump's comments about fallen soldiers.

I'm guessing that the unnamed sources were triggered by the defunding of Stars& Stripes.

Aridas 7th September 2020 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lupus (Post 13214977)
My answer is "Whatever meaning were you trying to use".

Which is entirely unhelpful. Moving on, then, because neither of us seems interested in doing the work to clarify things further.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lupus (Post 13214977)
But liberals do think it's real though, so it still works as a way liberals are driven by fear.

Hmm? It looks like you are indeed fighting a claim that wasn't made, then.

Fear is one of the major motivators of humans, in general, yes. However, not all humans are equally affected by it, with both positives and negatives to varying levels of effect. I am certainly not arguing that liberals are unaffected by fear, so your line of argument is entirely off the mark.

With that said, it might be helpful for you to review things like Fear and Anxiety Drive Conservatives' Political Attitudes to understand what I was saying more in depth. For example, when I say physically measurable, part of that is that the size of the amygdala, which is heavily involved in dealing with fear, tends to be notably larger in self-identified conservatives than in self-described liberals.

To be clear, again, this is being said in a neutral fashion. Everyone is different in a number of ways and we all have various positives and negatives that make us more or less suited to handle different situations. That conservatives especially react more strongly and quickly to perceived direct and immediate threats than liberals is not a bad thing in and of itself, but is much more easily exploited by unsavory actors to push fears, rational and irrational, (and associated claims to the fears when one isn't thinking as rationally) that benefit the unsavory actors in some way. Liberals aren't immune to such, of course, but the hurdle tends to be notably higher, which tends to change the balance to notably fewer irrational fears compared to rational fears, with the note that some rational fears may not pass the hurdle as well, given that it's higher.

uke2se 7th September 2020 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle (Post 13213688)
https://twitter.com/Jerri_Lynn25/sta...525892097?s=19

I don't even care if it's real or not.

It's not (the second one anyway), but it's an apt metaphore.

Captain_Swoop 7th September 2020 02:42 AM

Trump Tweeted in 2013

So, lets get this right. Steve Jobs dies and leaves his wife everything-billions of dollars. Now his wife has a boyfriend (lover). Oh Steve!

Captain_Swoop 7th September 2020 02:43 AM

Seems his disapproval of the former Mrs Jobs is not something new.

Firestone 7th September 2020 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13215097)
Trump Tweeted in 2013

So, lets get this right. Steve Jobs dies and leaves his wife everything-billions of dollars. Now his wife has a boyfriend (lover). Oh Steve!

What is this even about? :boggled:

Did Trump think it's ok to cheat on your current partner, as he regularly did, but not ok to have a new partner after your husband/wife dies? :boggled::boggled:

Captain_Swoop 7th September 2020 02:52 AM

Probably more concerned with her getting all the money.

Dr.Sid 7th September 2020 02:54 AM

Obviously Jobs should have given the money to Trump.

SezMe 7th September 2020 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cullennz (Post 13214011)
No. Because I just don't vote for sexist or racist people.

And both Trump and Biden have shown both traits.

If you can't tell the difference between Trump's overt sexism and Biden's supposed sexism then the world is grateful that you don't vote in the USA.

If you're younger than, say, 96, or have children, then the difference between Trump and Biden on climate change is sufficient to swamp any consideration of sexism so, again, the world is grateful that you don't vote in the USA.

Ladewig 7th September 2020 03:04 AM

Quick question:
Are we days away from seeing Trump accuse Biden of calling dead soldiers suckers and losers?

Ladewig 7th September 2020 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 13215102)
What is this even about? :boggled:

Did Trump think it's ok to cheat on your current partner, as he regularly did, but not ok to have a new partner after your husband/wife dies? :boggled::boggled:

I think it is less about the cheating and more about the money. It is not too unreasonable to assume that in Trump’s mind, a widow sharing inherited money with a boyfriend is the worst form of cuckolding there is.

SezMe 7th September 2020 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13214128)
Trump Retweeted

Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11

Joe Biden was the most corrupt Vice President in American history.

Spiro Agnew would like to register an objection.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13214128)
Trump Retweeted

Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
Finally able to share!
I’m excited to announce that my new podcast THE CHARLIE KIRK SHOW launches this Wednesday exclusively on @ApplePodcasts

I’ll announce my INCREDIBLE first guest tomorrow!
I‘d be honored if you were one of my first subscribers!
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...w/id1460600818

Yep, just another grifter trying to con the deplorables out of their money.

SezMe 7th September 2020 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobTheCoward (Post 13214181)
Cancel culture generally applies to things that both parties agree is true (the person being cancelled said the things and the person believes those things).

Who assigned you as the authority on what 'cancel culture' means?

Firestone 7th September 2020 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13215106)
Probably more concerned with her getting all the money.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Sid (Post 13215109)
Obviously Jobs should have given the money to Trump.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ladewig (Post 13215121)
I think it is less about the cheating and more about the money. It is not too unreasonable to assume that in Trump’s mind, a widow sharing inherited money with a boyfriend is the worst form of cuckolding there is.

Yes, thanks, you guys nailed it. :)

Squeegee Beckenheim 7th September 2020 03:28 AM

The editor in chief of The Atlantic says that there will almost certainly be more reporting on comments Trump has made about people in the military

Darat 7th September 2020 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 13215133)
Yes, thanks, you guys nailed it. :)

Or he tried to grab her pussy and she slapped him.

Dragon 7th September 2020 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13215168)
Or he tried to grab her pussy and she slapped him.

This, or something like it, is a likely explanation imo

Craig4 7th September 2020 05:20 AM

I don't know why Kelly, Dunford and Mattis are bothering to be anonymous. There's really no one other than Kelly who could be the source of what Trump said while the two were standing over Kelly's son's grave. I get the general principal of the military staying out of politics but this election is a knife fight for our democracy. There's going to be no democracy to defend if our side loses.

I admire their technique of a steady drip of these stories leading up to the election though. It's something we already know but there's value on keeping Trump's disloyalty to the people he commands front and center in our minds.

ETA: I'll add McMaster to the above list.

Fast Eddie B 7th September 2020 05:22 AM

“Lordy, I hope there are tapes.”

Captain_Swoop 7th September 2020 06:20 AM

Trump Tweets

Thank you!
Quote Tweet

AlwaysActions
@AlwaysActions
This black man wants his country Back.
This is my country and i want it back.

(video in link)
https://twitter.com/AlwaysActions/st...35654064635904

Captain_Swoop 7th September 2020 06:22 AM

Trump Tweets

Starting to get VERY high marks in our handling of the Coronavirus (China Virus), especially when compared to other countries and areas of the world. Now the Vaccines (Plus) are coming, and fast!

Captain_Swoop 7th September 2020 06:23 AM

Trump Retweeted

Donald Trump Jr.
@DonaldJTrumpJr
Joe Biden's supporters are destroying communities across America. #BidenRiots

Captain_Swoop 7th September 2020 06:25 AM

Trump has retweeted a whole load of stuff from @AlwaysActions today.

All similar, a black person 'exposing' BLM supposedly.

Ryokan 7th September 2020 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13215253)
Trump Tweets

Starting to get VERY high marks in our handling of the Coronavirus (China Virus), especially when compared to other countries and areas of the world. Now the Vaccines (Plus) are coming, and fast!

Unless a miracle happens, USA will pass Italy in corona deaths per capita by tomorrow.

kookbreaker 7th September 2020 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13215257)
Trump has retweeted a whole load of stuff from @AlwaysActions today.

All similar, a black person 'exposing' BLM supposedly.

Aaaand the account is suspended. Russian Troll?

shemp 7th September 2020 08:37 AM

And Trump's retweet is gone too.

Captain_Swoop 7th September 2020 08:40 AM

Trump Tweets

Rochester N.Y., Brooklyn N.Y., Portland - All had bad nights, all weakly run by Radical Left Democrat Governors and Mayors! Get the picture?

10.6 Million Jobs Created In Just 4 Months, A Record!!!

Biden Underperforming! @OANN What else is new, the story of his life.

Gordon Chang: China Seems ‘to Be Favoring Joe Biden‘ in Presidential Election https://breitbart.com/clips/2020/09/...tial-election/ via @BreitbartNews. Of course they want Biden. I have taken $Billions from China and given it to our Farmers and U.S. Treasury. China would own the U.S. if Biden & Hunter got in!

Captain_Swoop 7th September 2020 08:41 AM

Trump Tweets

Just heard that Wacko John Bolton was talking of the fact that I discussed “love letters from Kim Jong Un” as though I viewed them as just that. Obviously, was just being sarcastic. Bolton was such a jerk!

Biggest and Fastest Financial Recovery In History. Next year will be the best ever, unless a Sleepy person, who wants to massively raise your taxes, gets in. I’m which case, CRASH!!!

The Don 7th September 2020 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13215342)
Trump Tweets

Just heard that Wacko John Bolton was talking of the fact that I discussed “love letters from Kim Jong Un” as though I viewed them as just that. Obviously, was just being sarcastic. Bolton was such a jerk!

Biggest and Fastest Financial Recovery In History. Next year will be the best ever, unless a Sleepy person, who wants to massively raise your taxes, gets in. I’m which case, CRASH!!!

Exactly the message I've been suggesting for some time now.

The question is whether enough people will look after the far larger number of jobs that have been lost because of Covid

Skeptic Ginger 7th September 2020 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13215257)
Trump has retweeted a whole load of stuff from @AlwaysActions today.

All similar, a black person 'exposing' BLM supposedly.

All this retweeting suggests to me there might be a new batch of fake Twitter accounts out there.

This one is a classic fake account, though I could be wrong.

Skeptic Ginger 7th September 2020 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kookbreaker (Post 13215313)
Aaaand the account is suspended. Russian Troll?

I posted above before reading this post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shemp (Post 13215337)
And Trump's retweet is gone too.

I wonder if that is automatic, or he doesn't want to be embarrassed?

Captain_Swoop 7th September 2020 10:14 AM

Trump Tweets

hanks Zach. Just more corrupt Fake News trying to change the course of our most important, ever, Election!
Quote Tweet

Exclusive: Zach Fuentes, Top Aide to John Kelly, Denies Atlantic Story About Trump https://breitbart.com/politics/2020/...y-about-trump/ via @BreitbartNews

jimbob 7th September 2020 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie B (Post 13215199)
“Lordy, I hope there are tapes.”

God yes

alfaniner 7th September 2020 11:01 AM

Another press conference going on right now. I watch a minute or two, then realized I'd get all the pertinent information later on during the news. Otherwise it's just a bunch of rants with very little new being said.

Stacyhs 7th September 2020 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lupus View Post
But liberals do think it's real though, so it still works as a way liberals are driven by fear. For hate, Trump and every republican current president are good examples. I put the reason why in the dedicated global warming thread.
Who is warning us about all the rapists and murderers and caravans bringing smallpox and other disease over the borders? Who is telling us that Dems want to take your guns away? Who is telling us that our cities will be in flames and rioting and looting will happen under "Biden's America" when it's happening NOW? Who is telling us massive voter fraud will happen with mail in voting? Who is telling suburban women that low-income housing will “destroy your neighborhood and your American Dream.”?

If you think that it's the liberals who are driven by fear, then you live in an alternate universe.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 13215043)
:dl:

I'm pretty sure the party of fear mongering starts with an R not a D.

Yeah, I damn near spit my morning coffee all over my keyboard when I read that little gem!

Stacyhs 7th September 2020 11:24 AM

Trump's 'press conference' was almost painful to watch. The man just spent the entire time ranting, raving and airing his usual grievances. He claimed the report in The Atlantic was entirely made and 'a hoax' (naturally). He attacked McCain, Biden, Obama, Clinton, Dems, went on and on about being spied on again, China, claimed he's against 'cancel culture' even though he engages in it on twitter, etc. He is obviously not in a good place mentally. He is running very scared.

Captain_Swoop 7th September 2020 11:28 AM

Trump Tweets

Proclamation on Labor Day, 2020
The American workforce is the best in the world and, since day one of my Administration, I have been standing up for the American worker.

Lurch 7th September 2020 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13215254)
Trump Retweeted

Donald Trump Jr.
@DonaldJTrumpJr
Joe Biden's supporters are destroying communities across America. #BidenRiots

Too obvious, but... 'Biden riots' under your daddy's watch, boyo. Why's daddy not got control, sonny? 'Cause mebbe he's the underlying rot?

abaddon 7th September 2020 11:59 AM

Oh hello, the Lincoln Project just wade in on the "losers and suckers" matter.

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the ISF. The ISF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.
I AGREE


1 minute 34 sec.

Garrison 7th September 2020 12:24 PM

Its still hard to understand the disconnect and the way the media lets Trump get away with it.

Person X is hired to fill some position in the Trump administration.

Person X is fired for disagreeing with Trump/Breaking the law/expressing their true opinion of Trump.

Person X is then endlessly referred to by Trump as a loser/idiot/wacko.

At some point it would be nice if a reporter had the balls to ask Trump why he keeps getting fooled by these wackos into hiring them in the first place?

TheSupermeerkat 7th September 2020 12:32 PM

Trump: DeJoy should be removed if it 'can be proven that he did something wrong'

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...en-that-he-did

Is this a setup for a firing, or a boast that man can't be touched?

abaddon 7th September 2020 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSupermeerkat (Post 13215524)
Trump: DeJoy should be removed if it 'can be proven that he did something wrong'

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...en-that-he-did

Is this a setup for a firing, or a boast that man can't be touched?

Plausible deniability.


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