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Safe-Keeper 9th September 2020 06:50 AM

Quote:

Christian Tybring-Gjedde
Oh. Him.

Stopped reading at that point.

Captain_Swoop 9th September 2020 07:23 AM

Trump tweets

The United States Navy, or the Department of Defense, will NOT be cancelling its contract with Catholic Priests who serve our men and women in the Armed Forces so well, and with such great compassion & skill. This will no longer be even a point of discussion!
@CardinalDolan

Captain_Swoop 9th September 2020 07:24 AM

Trump Retweets

Jason Miller
@JasonMillerinDC
@realDonaldTrump nominated for Nobel Peace Prize by Norwegian official, citing Israel-UAE peace dea
https://fxn.ws/32cZvu0 #FoxNews

Washington Examiner
@dcexaminer
"Indeed, Trump has broken a 39-year-old streak of American Presidents either starting a war or bringing the United States into an international armed conflict."
@realDonaldTrump has been nominated for a Nobel Prize.

Students For Trump
@TrumpStudents
“Just weeks after helping to broker peace between Israel and the United Arab Emirates (UAE),
President @realDonaldTrump has been nominated for the 2021 Nobel Peace Prize.”

Trish Regan
@trish_regan
A Nobel Peace Prize for Trump: Norwegian MP Nominates POTUS
"The people who have received the Peace Prize in recent years have done much less than Donald Trump. For example, Barack Obama did nothing," said Christian Tybring-Gjedde.

Lauren Boebert for Congress (R-CO3)
@laurenboebert
US House candidate, CO-3
Congratulations @POTUS on the Nobel Peace Prize nomination! Hopefully the committee follows through on it.
Well deserved!

Captain_Swoop 9th September 2020 07:29 AM

Trump retweets

thebradfordfile™
@thebradfordfile
President Donald J. Trump has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.
What took so long?

The Washington Times
@WashTimes
Donald Trump nominated for Nobel Peace Prize after Israel-UAE deal
President Trump has been nominated for the 2021 Nobel Peace Prize, shortly after his administration helped broker a new peace deal between Israel and the United Arab Emirates.


Sara A. Carter
@SaraCarterDC
BREAKING Pres. @realDonaldTrump Nominated For #NobelPeacePrize by a Norwegian official who says he's "not a big Trump supporter" but believes Trump's made historic peace during his presidency, citing the recent deal between #Israel and #UAE

Lou Dobbs
@LouDobbs
Congratulations Mr President! Trump nominated for Nobel Peace Prize by Norwegian official, citing Israel-UAE peace deal #MAGA ⁦@realDonaldTrump⁩ #AmericaFirst


Stephanie Myers
@_StephanieMyers
BREAKING President Trump is nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for helping broker the peace agreement between Israel and the UAE

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@chiIIum
President Donald Trump has been nominated for the 2021 Nobel Peace Prize.
He was nominated by Christian Tybring-Gjedde, a member of the Norwegian Parliament, who praised Trump for his efforts towards resolving conflicts worldwide.
That’s our President!

Mark R. Levin
@marklevinshow
As I said the other day, President Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize. Now he’s finally been nominated.

Captain_Swoop 9th September 2020 07:31 AM

Trump tweets

Salon Owner Nancy Pelosi Attacked Raises over $310,000 Great!

We will be substantially LOWERING Medicare Premiums and Prescription Drug Prices, bringing them down to levels that were not thought possible!

Captain_Swoop 9th September 2020 07:35 AM

Trump Tweets

Trump nominated for Nobel Peace Prize following Israel-UAE accord https://nypost.com/2020/09/09/trump-...egian-official

Captain_Swoop 9th September 2020 08:11 AM

Who is Christian Tybring-Gjedde and why does he want to suck Donald Trump's tiny orange penis so badly?

dmaker 9th September 2020 08:16 AM

Who is Christian Tybring-Gjedde?

Rough notes from wiki: a member of the right wing Progress Party; anti-immigration; comes from a wealthy family....

" Tybring-Gjedde was a civil servant before he entered politics. While described by commentators as far-right and anti-immigration,[1] he identifies himself as a classical liberal, particularly on economic issues and advocates limited government intervention, reduced public spending, and tax reduction.[3] More conservative and outspoken on social and cultural issues, Tybring-Gjedde has stoked controversy on numerous occasions,[4] and has been described as a national conservative.[5] He believes immigration policy to be the single most important political issue facing Norwegian society"

"He is currently estranged from his parents after a dispute over his divorce from his first wife. He is reported to have forfeited millions of NOK from the family business due to this. According to him, he is financially cut off from his original inheritance, although his father refuted this in 2013.[35] He has said that he has not met or spoken to his father for several years, and that he is open about his family having "many issues"

Squeegee Beckenheim 9th September 2020 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Resume (Post 13217448)
Trump nominated for Nobel.


Take that, Obama.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1303646873727758337

Quote:

BREAKING: 2020 ‘just taking the piss now’ say experts.

Captain_Swoop 9th September 2020 08:28 AM

Trump Tweets

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#MakeAmericaGreatAgain
http://defendyourballot.com

thaiboxerken 9th September 2020 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Resume (Post 13217448)
Trump nominated for Nobel.


Take that, Obama.

Countries that are forcefully annexed do become more peaceful after all the opposition is killed.

Bob001 9th September 2020 09:15 AM

For his new book, Bob Woodward has taped interviews of Trump saying in February that he knows covid will be deadly, even when he's publicly claiming it will disappear, and more.
Quote:

Aside from exploring Trump’s handling of the pandemic, Woodward’s new book, “Rage,” covers race relations, diplomacy with North Korea and a range of other issues that have arisen during the past two years.

The book also includes brutal assessments of Trump’s conduct from former defense secretary Jim Mattis, former director of national intelligence Daniel Coats and others.

The book is based in part on 18 on-the-record interviews Woodward conducted with the president between December and July. Woodward writes that other quotes in the book were acquired through “deep background” conversations with sources in which information is divulged and exchanges recounted without sources being named.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...3d4_story.html

carlitos 9th September 2020 09:39 AM

CNN just played some of the tapes. Trump can deny he said these things that he said on tape, and some will believe him. Charles Barkley was once "misquoted" when he said something on tape.

If it hasn't happened already - a split-screen with Trump's words on one side, and Trump's words on the other side, on the same days, saying opposite things, could be interesting.

thaiboxerken 9th September 2020 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlitos (Post 13217605)
CNN just played some of the tapes. Trump can deny he said these things that he said on tape, and some will believe him. Charles Barkley was once "misquoted" when he said something on tape.

If it hasn't happened already - a split-screen with Trump's words on one side, and Trump's words on the other side, on the same days, saying opposite things, could be interesting.

Trolls on social media are saying that the fact that people are outraged shows that Trump made the right call to downplay the deadliness of the virus....

Horatius 9th September 2020 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlitos (Post 13217605)
CNN just played some of the tapes. Trump can deny he said these things that he said on tape, and some will believe him. Charles Barkley was once "misquoted" when he said something on tape.

If it hasn't happened already - a split-screen with Trump's words on one side, and Trump's words on the other side, on the same days, saying opposite things, could be interesting.


You can hear the key parts here:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/polit...rus/index.html


Trump lied, people died. This is now undeniable.

If you vote for Trump, you're voting for the man who decided to let hundreds of thousands of American die for no reason other than his own ego.

Fast Eddie B 9th September 2020 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 13217635)
Trolls on social media are saying that the fact that people are outraged shows that Trump made the right call to downplay the deadliness of the virus....

To be fair, about 190,000 Americans are certainly not panicking now. :(

Ryokan 9th September 2020 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13217543)
Who is Christian Tybring-Gjedde and why does he want to suck Donald Trump's tiny orange penis so badly?

A Norwegian parliamentary representative from the right wing/libertarian/anti-immigration Progress Party.

Probably the mainstream politician furthest to the right since Quisling.

I probably don't need to say more.

The Progress Party is the party furthest to the right in Norwegian mainstream politics. But compared to a lot of far right parties in the rest of Europe, they're somewhat moderate.

Tybring-Gjedde, from Oslo Progress Party, is one of the biggest advocates of taking the party further right, making it a "patriotic lighthouse".

This has taken Oslo Progress Party from being one of the biggest parties in the capital, to hovering around 5%. Those of us who are not very fond of the Progress Party wish him the best in changing the rest of his party.

Needless to say, people like him absolutely adore Trump.

ETA: He said he made the announcement on Fox News because Norwegian media are lying lamestream fake news.

nelsondogg 9th September 2020 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob001 (Post 13217587)
For his new book, Bob Woodward has taped interviews of Trump saying in February that he knows covid will be deadly, even when he's publicly claiming it will disappear, and more.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...3d4_story.html

It's given that Trump's an ass, but why would Woodward sit on these tapes for 6 months as thousands of people died and Trump kept downplaying it. What a dick.

alfaniner 9th September 2020 10:29 AM

Well, is this gonna be the thing that topples The PDJT? (I doubt it, but I can hope.)
But it's been a heck of a week, with the denigration of the service members and this revelation that he knew and was actually privately concerned about Covid-19.

That press conference with his Press Secretary was sad and laughable. I'm glad the reporters are strongly using the word "lie" without reservation now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nelsondogg (Post 13217671)
It's given that Trump's an ass, but why would Woodward sit on these tapes for 6 months as thousands of people died and Trump kept downplaying it. What a dick.

I did wonder that myself. I'm also amazed that he was able to keep leaks from happening weeks ahead of time.

The most striking thing is being able to hear the actual audio of the interviews. No getting around that for factual presentation! (But I'm sure Fox News and other idiots will do it somehow.) We also seem to be hearing more from actual people, rather than anonymous sources. I like the attribution to Dr. Fauci saying "His (Trump's) attention span is like a minus." Perhaps it's time to up his odds for removal in the White House Survivor thread.

chrispy 9th September 2020 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlitos (Post 13217605)
CNN just played some of the tapes. Trump can deny he said these things that he said on tape, and some will believe him. Charles Barkley was once "misquoted" when he said something on tape.

If it hasn't happened already - a split-screen with Trump's words on one side, and Trump's words on the other side, on the same days, saying opposite things, could be interesting.

Actually, believe it or not, Charles Barkley claimed he was "misquoted" in his own autobiography. Still sounds like something Trump would say, too.

Safe-Keeper 9th September 2020 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nelsondogg (Post 13217671)
It's given that Trump's an ass, but why would Woodward sit on these tapes for 6 months as thousands of people died and Trump kept downplaying it. What a dick.

Maybe he was saving it from September-October to increase the effect on the American election?

Babbylonian 9th September 2020 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper (Post 13217685)
Maybe he was saving it from September-October to increase the effect on the American election?

Let’s be real here. He saved it to increase the effect on his book sales.

Safe-Keeper 9th September 2020 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 13217672)
Well, is this gonna be the thing that topples The PDJT? (I doubt it, but I can hope.)

Right now the attack ads seem to focus on his attacks on military servicemen, but IMO, the way Trump deliberately let the pandemic run free, especially in blue states, for political reasons, should be the #1 thing for his opponents to use against him. It may even top every single other vile and idiotic things he has said and done.

Use the contradicting statements from Trump. Use the quote from Kushner that fighting the pandemic "wouldn't make sense politically". Use the way Trump has taken little action, and even outright sabotaged the US' ability to fight the virus, both before and after there even was a pandemic beginning to spread, and both before and after it reached the States.

I always knew that Trump, if faced with a real disaster like, say, the Cuban missile crisis, would not be up to the task. In fact this was my #1 nightmare scenario with Trump since November 2016. Covid proved me right, although I couldn't in my wildest dreams imagine he would botch it this badly.

Bob001 9th September 2020 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babbylonian (Post 13217690)
Let’s be real here. He saved it to increase the effect on his book sales.

That might be true for a lot of authors. But Bob Woodward doesn't need to do anything to boost his sales. One reason for not releasing tapes prematurely is to be able to keep talking to Trump and to other officials, getting more information that ultimately serves us. A lot of doors would have slammed shut the minute a tape was released.

Babbylonian 9th September 2020 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob001 (Post 13217701)
That might be true for a lot of authors. But Bob Woodward doesn't need to do anything to boost his sales. One reason for not releasing tapes prematurely is to be able to keep talking to Trump and to other officials, getting more information that ultimately serves us. A lot of doors would have slammed shut the minute a tape was released.

Bob Woodward is a sensationalist journalist. That’s not to say that he’s all bad, but he doesn’t do these books for idealistic reasons.

Frankly, I think one of the reasons he’s releasing recordings is that his credibility has at times been reasonably questioned.

Delphic Oracle 9th September 2020 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13216889)
Since when is the US Dept of Justice the personal lawyers for Trump in a civil lawsuit for something that is unconnected to and before Trump was even the POTUS?

Since he insisted it be so and the dozens-to-hundreds of people legally and ethically obligated to stop him from doing so all quietly capitulated.

If nobody is willing to defend words on a page, then they are just words on a page.

Safe-Keeper 9th September 2020 11:05 AM

Frankly, downplaying a pandemic, knowing it will kill people (there's no nicer way to put it), is the kind of thing I expect some colonial-era European or American regime to do to some backwater country they care nothing about.

It reminds me of those tapes in the Burns-Novick documentary on Viet Nam, where one of the hawks in the presidential race (I forgot who it was), talked about how he was working to convince South Viet Nam to walk out of peace negotiations with the north, not for their own good, but because a peace treaty in 'Nam would ruin his chances of winning the presidential election back home.

So again, the kind of thing I expect from decades or centuries back, and in other parts of the world. It's surreal that Trump was/is doing it in 2020, and to his own country.

Mojo 9th September 2020 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Resume (Post 13217448)
Trump nominated for Nobel.


Take that, Obama.


Trump was nominated for it in 2018 as well. He lost.

Ryokan 9th September 2020 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper (Post 13217713)
It reminds me of those tapes in the Burns-Novick documentary on Viet Nam, where one of the hawks in the presidential race (I forgot who it was), talked about how he was working to convince South Viet Nam to walk out of peace negotiations with the north, not for their own good, but because a peace treaty in 'Nam would ruin his chances of winning the presidential election back home.

Nixon, wasn't it?

Captain_Swoop 9th September 2020 11:30 AM

“The President never downplayed the virus.” -Kayleigh McEnany

“I wanted to always play it down.” -President Donald Trump

Cain 9th September 2020 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper (Post 13217713)
Frankly, downplaying a pandemic, knowing it will kill people (there's no nicer way to put it), is the kind of thing I expect some colonial-era European or American regime to do to some backwater country they care nothing about.

Who knows how many people would have died if we had a full-on panic. This requires steady, calm, assured leadership. People freaked out in Germany and Western Europe, and look at how many died. Those countries are now ravaged by civil unrest. It's worse than the Bowling Green Massacre.

chrispy 9th September 2020 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cain (Post 13217747)
Who knows how many people would have died if we had a full-on panic. This requires steady, calm, assured leadership. People freaked out in Germany and Western Europe, and look at how many died. Those countries are now ravaged by civil unrest. It's worse than the Bowling Green Massacre.

Ah, I almost spit coffee on my monitor. Thanks for a classic Cain. :D

Captain_Swoop 9th September 2020 11:41 AM

Trump Tweets

I will be announcing a list of future potential Supreme Court Justices at 3:30 P.M. Eastern from the Diplomatic Reception Room of the White House.

Ladewig 9th September 2020 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cain (Post 13217747)
Who knows how many people would have died if we had a full-on panic. This requires steady, calm, assured leadership. People freaked out in Germany and Western Europe, and look at how many died. Those countries are now ravaged by civil unrest. It's worse than the Bowling Green Massacre.

The first part was practically boilerplate. But the finish. Now that’s writing.

Bob001 9th September 2020 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryokan (Post 13217727)
Nixon, wasn't it?


Of course it was. Imagine how different America would have been over the past half-century if Hubert Humphrey had won the election.
Quote:

Did Richard Nixon’s campaign conspire to scuttle the Vietnam War peace talks on the eve of the 1968 election to capture him the presidency?

Absolutely, says Tom Charles Huston, the author of a comprehensive, still-secret report he prepared as a White House aide to Nixon. In one of 10 oral histories conducted by the National Archives and opened last week, Huston says “there is no question” that Nixon campaign aides sent a message to the South Vietnamese government, promising better terms if it obstructed the talks, and helped Nixon get elected.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...e-talks-107623

The Great Zaganza 9th September 2020 11:53 AM

I remember Bob's first Trump book "fear" was, IMO, rather tame in the criticism of Trump, mostly as someone in way over his head.

I hope Woodward is not longer giving Trump a mulligan on this one.

Bob001 9th September 2020 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babbylonian (Post 13217708)
Bob Woodward is a sensationalist journalist. That’s not to say that he’s all bad, but he doesn’t do these books for idealistic reasons.
....


What is that supposed to mean? Going back to Watergate, Woodward has demonstrated a unique ability to uncover and report facts that the powerful would conceal. That's what a journalist is supposed to do. One of the great failings of modern journalism is that too many journalists see themselves as stenographers or scorekeepers, rather than advocates for truth.

bonzombiekitty 9th September 2020 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojo (Post 13217723)
Trump was nominated for it in 2018 as well. He lost.

It doesn't take much of anything to get nominated. There's a huuuuuge list of people that can nominate. Being nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize isn't any more impressive than your mother telling you that you're a handsome boy.

Stacyhs 9th September 2020 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Resume (Post 13217448)
Trump nominated for Nobel.


Take that, Obama.

It's been canceled by the divisiveness and hatred he's fomented within his own country.

shemp 9th September 2020 12:16 PM

I'm sure Lincoln Project will have some interesting ads coming from this.

Babbylonian 9th September 2020 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob001 (Post 13217791)
What is that supposed to mean? Going back to Watergate, Woodward has demonstrated a unique ability to uncover and report facts that the powerful would conceal. That's what a journalist is supposed to do. One of the great failings of modern journalism is that too many journalists see themselves as stenographers or scorekeepers, rather than advocates for truth.

Funny, this is precisely something of which Woodward has been accused, especially during the W. Bush administration.

Stacyhs 9th September 2020 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13217760)
Trump Tweets

I will be announcing a list of future potential Supreme Court Justices at 3:30 P.M. Eastern from the Diplomatic Reception Room of the White House.


Judge Roy Bean
Judge Judy Sheindlin
Judge Jeanine Pirro

Segnosaur 9th September 2020 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13217760)
Trump Tweets

I will be announcing a list of future potential Supreme Court Justices at 3:30 P.M. Eastern from the Diplomatic Reception Room of the White House.

I know stubby Mcbonespurs is trying to whip up his own base, but that seems like it has a chance to backfire.

Most of the MAGAchuds won't know the names, but having a list may give his opponents plenty of ammunition. (With all sorts of dirt uncovered on them.)

One of the reasons Trump is losing suburban women was his nomination of Drunky Mcrapeface... Why drag that up again unnecessarily?

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alfaniner 9th September 2020 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13217760)
Trump Tweets

I will be announcing a list of future potential Supreme Court Justices at 3:30 P.M. Eastern from the Diplomatic Reception Room of the White House.

What's that about? Is he hovering over RBG's hospital bed or something?

phiwum 9th September 2020 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nelsondogg (Post 13217671)
It's given that Trump's an ass, but why would Woodward sit on these tapes for 6 months as thousands of people died and Trump kept downplaying it. What a dick.

You have a point I hadn't considered.

Segnosaur 9th September 2020 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper (Post 13217698)
Right now the attack ads seem to focus on his attacks on military servicemen, but IMO, the way Trump deliberately let the pandemic run free, especially in blue states, for political reasons, should be the #1 thing for his opponents to use against him. It may even top every single other vile and idiotic things he has said and done.

.

I agree that his vivid response was Trump's greatest failure. But I am not sure it is the best way to attack him. MAGAchuds lack both empathy and intelligence, so pointing out how trump let the blue states suffer from Covid19 is just as likely to result in a "ha ha! He is really owning the libs!" Than it is to make them change their vote.

But point out trump hates the military? Well that may get at least some to consider changing their vote (or at least sitting out the next election).


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Firestone 9th September 2020 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13217884)
Judge Roy Bean
Judge Judy Sheindlin
Judge Jeanine Pirro

It's even better: Ted Cruz and Tom Cotton are on the list.

If that doesn't get out the vote for Biden, nothing will.

Firestone 9th September 2020 01:58 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Q: "Did you mislead the public?"

President Trump: "Well, I think if you said in order to reduce panic, perhaps that's so. The fact is, I'm a cheerleader for this country. I love our country and I don't want people to be frightened. I don't want to create panic."

https://twitter.com/cspan/status/130...448751106?s=19

Also Trump:

Attachment 43031

https://twitter.com/pbump/status/130...304046080?s=19

Stacyhs 9th September 2020 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 13217972)
It's even better: Ted Cruz and Tom Cotton are on the list.

If that doesn't get out the vote for Biden, nothing will.

You've got to be ***** kidding me!

Firestone 9th September 2020 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13218006)
You've got to be ***** kidding me!


"Speaking from the Diplomatic Reception room of the White House, the president read off a list of names including Daniel Cameron, the Kentucky attorney general who recently spoke at the Republican Convention, as well as Sens. Ted Cruz of Texas, Tom Cotton of Arkansas and Josh Hawley of Missouri."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...-list-20-names


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