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shemp 11th October 2020 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13254539)
I'm sorry. I plead momentary insanity.

It's OK Mama Weer All Crazy Now!

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shemp 11th October 2020 11:46 AM

Nurse Who Praised Trump’s COVID Response at Republican National Convention is Under Arrest for Shooting Woman During Argument


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A West Virginia nurse who was one of the featured speakers during this year’s Republican National Convention (RNC) was on Thursday reportedly arrested and charged in connection with a shooting which required another woman to be air-lifted to a hospital for surgery, according to reports from several local news outlets, including WSAZ-TV.

Amy Johnson Ford, 39, also known as Amy Jolene Thorn and Amy Johnson, the reports say, was detained by officers with the Williamson Police Department and charged with malicious wounding in the shooting of Jonda Whitt.

“Through the investigation we came to find out that two females got into a verbal argument, turning into one of the females getting a gun. She did shoot the victim one time in the abdomen area,” Williamson Police Chief Grady Dotson told local ABC affiliate WCHS, Channel 8.

Dotson is also quoted as identifying the shooter as the same woman who spoke at the RNC.


Safe-Keeper 11th October 2020 11:58 AM

The best people, tired of all this winning, but but Obama, etc.

Elagabalus 11th October 2020 12:01 PM

Alias Ford, Thorn and Johnson

This fall on Fox!

Stacyhs 11th October 2020 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper (Post 13254560)
The best people, tired of all this winning, but but Obama, etc.

She says shot the woman in "self-defense". By going over to her car, getting a gun, then going back and shooting the woman. Instead of getting in the car and leaving. That's some trumpian logic.

Regnad Kcin 11th October 2020 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Elagabalus (Post 13254562)
Alias Ford, Thorn and Johnson

This fall on Fox!

Amy Johnson is right about Howard Johnson being right!

Ladewig 11th October 2020 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by shemp (Post 13254531)
You have to consider the tweet source: A deranged drugged-out senile old lunatic.

Who is to lazy to follow a link and read the story himself.

dirtywick 11th October 2020 02:20 PM

Weird part is this isn’t the couple that was arrested for pointing guns at protesters. This is the mainstream right now by the way.

dirtywick 11th October 2020 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13254564)
She says shot the woman in "self-defense". By going over to her car, getting a gun, then going back and shooting the woman. Instead of getting in the car and leaving. That's some trumpian logic.

I think they’ve been trying to redefine stand your ground into I can just shoot anyone anytime I want for a while now.

acbytesla 11th October 2020 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtywick (Post 13254668)
I think they’ve been trying to redefine stand your ground into I can just shoot anyone anytime I want for a while now.

As long as your skin is white that is.

Norman Alexander 11th October 2020 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by acbytesla (Post 13254695)
As long as your skin is white that is.

Or a "conservative black" in Lindsey Graham's state.

Babbylonian 11th October 2020 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13254845)
Or a "conservative black" in Lindsey Graham's statemind.

I doubt his fellow South Carolinians would bend even that far, so I FTFY.

Ladewig 11th October 2020 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by acbytesla (Post 13254695)
As long as your skin is white that is.

Easy Rider
Billy : Listen, do you think you can help us get outta here with no sweat?
George Hanson : Well, I imagine that I can if you haven't killed anybody - at least, nobody white.


plus ça change, plus c'est la męme chose

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johnny karate 11th October 2020 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper (Post 13254560)
The best people, tired of all this winning, but but Obama, etc.

The GOP once again proving itself to be the party of criminality.

Captain_Swoop 11th October 2020 11:13 PM

Trump Tweets
See you in FLORIDA tomorrow night. Big Rally!!!

Captain_Swoop 11th October 2020 11:16 PM

Trump Tweets

It’s the only way they know!
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Mollie
@MZHemingway
Democrats are laundering their (admittedly weak) anti-religious smear of Amy Coney Barrett through Emma Brown, the same reporter they used to launch their massive and media-coordinated anti-Kavanaugh operation that so many Americans found so despicable. twitter.com/bethreinhard/s…

Captain_Swoop 11th October 2020 11:17 PM

Trump Tweets

The Democrats are very proud!
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Tony Shaffer
@T_S_P_O_O_K_Y
· Sep 29
Yep 3 Supreme Court Justices & 3 Nobel Peace Prize nominations...
Hmmm...I'd say this is pretty darn good...
The Left is upset that @realDonaldTrump has not started any new wars...
The never Trumpers are upset that he has lived up to his campaign promises...
Strange times... twitter.com/realDonaldTrum…

Captain_Swoop 11th October 2020 11:18 PM

Trump Tweets

Record 96% Approval Rating in the Republican Party. 53% Approval Rating Overall. Record 56% “Better Off Now” than 4 Years Ago (Gallup) during the Obama/Sleepy Joe Biden Administration, even as we round the turn on the China Plague. Thank you. Next year will be the BEST EVER!!!

DevilsAdvocate 12th October 2020 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13254964)
Trump Tweets

Record 96% Approval Rating in the Republican Party. 53% Approval Rating Overall. Record 56% “Better Off Now” than 4 Years Ago (Gallup) during the Obama/Sleepy Joe Biden Administration, even as we round the turn on the China Plague. Thank you. Next year will be the BEST EVER!!!

I'm perplexed. He is correct. A Gallup Poll shows 56% of people say they and their family are better off than they were four years ago.

That is compared to 2012 (45%) and 2004 (47%) and 1992 (38%).

Who are all these people? We have an out of control pandemic, unemployment, businesses closing, disrespect in the world, wild fires, riots in the streets, shortages on consumer goods, fear of getting a hair cut, isolation, disruption on personal lives, two hundred thousand dead, huge national debt, constant lies and deceit in government, there was an earthquake! A terrible flood! Locusts!

How can 56% say they are doing better than four years ago? I must be doing something wrong.

Stacyhs 12th October 2020 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13254964)
Trump Tweets

Record 96% Approval Rating in the Republican Party. 53% Approval Rating Overall.Record 56% “Better Off Now” than 4 Years Ago (Gallup) during the Obama/Sleepy Joe Biden Administration, even as we round the turn on the China Plague. Thank you. Next year will be the BEST EVER!!!

Which should mean a great overall approval rating. Instead his average approval rating stands at 43.6% according to 538.

His "53% Approval Rating Overall" is an outlier poll which he won't even name. Even Rasmussen only has him at 46%.
Fivethirtyeight doesn't have a single poll listed with him above 47%.

Trump is truly delusional.

DevilsAdvocate 12th October 2020 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13254989)
Which should mean a great overall approval rating. Instead his average approval rating stands at 43.6% according to 538.

His "53% Approval Rating Overall" is an outlier poll which he won't even name. Even Rasmussen only has him at 46%.
Fivethirtyeight doesn't have a single poll listed with him above 47%.

Trump is truly delusional.

The 56% Gallup poll is here:

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/gall...-coverage.aspx

Stacyhs 12th October 2020 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate (Post 13254991)

No, it's the 53% approval rating I'm saying is an outlier poll and which he does not identify, not the "better off" poll.

DevilsAdvocate 12th October 2020 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13254993)
No, it's the 53% approval rating I'm saying is an outlier poll and which he does not identify, not the "better off" poll.

You highlighted the wrong part.

The latest USC Dornsife election poll does show a 53% approval rating...for Biden.

Trump has about a 53% disapproval rating. Even Rasmussen has him at only 46% approval.

ETA: I'm concerned Trump may be confused and does know the difference between the approval and disapproval numbers. His ability for comprehension seems to be deteriorating.

Stacyhs 12th October 2020 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate (Post 13255001)
You highlighted the wrong part.

The latest USC Dornsife election poll does show a 53% approval rating...for Biden.

Trump has about a 53% disapproval rating. Even Rasmussen has him at only 46% approval.

ETA: I'm concerned Trump may be confused and does know the difference between the approval and disapproval numbers. His ability for comprehension seems to be deteriorating.

No, the part I highlighted was what I was addressing in the first part of my response. If 56% of people feel they are better off now than they were 4 years ago, meaning better off under his presidency, then his overall approval rating should be better than a mere 43.6%.

Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

Pixel42 12th October 2020 01:13 AM

People might be feeling better off for all sorts of reasons that have nothing to do with Trump and/or the state of the economy. Maybe they got a promotion, or finally paid off their student loan.

Stacyhs 12th October 2020 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pixel42 (Post 13255010)
People might be feeling better off for all sorts of reasons that have nothing to do with Trump and/or the state of the economy. Maybe they got a promotion, or finally paid off their student loan.

People generally feel 'better off' because of their financial situation which would include a promotion or paying off a student loan. As the saying goes, "It's the economy, stupid."

Firestone 12th October 2020 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate (Post 13254982)
I'm perplexed. He is correct. A Gallup Poll shows 56% of people say they and their family are better off than they were four years ago.

That is compared to 2012 (45%) and 2004 (47%) and 1992 (38%).

Who are all these people? We have an out of control pandemic, unemployment, businesses closing, disrespect in the world, wild fires, riots in the streets, shortages on consumer goods, fear of getting a hair cut, isolation, disruption on personal lives, two hundred thousand dead, huge national debt, constant lies and deceit in government, there was an earthquake! A terrible flood! Locusts!

How can 56% say they are doing better than four years ago? I must be doing something wrong.

If a pollster would ask me this specific question today, I wouldn't know how to answer it, frankly.

Obviously, we feel miserable with all the COVID-19 restrictions that have now been in place for 7 months, with no end in sight. And of course we know people who have been ill or died from COVID-19, which makes us sad.

But financially? Well, we are better off now than four years ago.
As we both can work from home, our income has not suffered. As there is less we can spend on, our savings have actually increased since march. As the stock market has been volatile but not really falling, our investments are doing great on balance.

I'm not sure if it is the same in the US as here in Belgium, but a large group of middle tier and high tier employees are mostly doing fine (financially). There are of course many people who suffered financially or have been made redundant, but it wouldn't surprise me if in Belgium at least 56% are economically better off than four years ago. Mentally, of course not.

gypsyjackson 12th October 2020 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Man (Post 13254348)
Dang his hand is so pale, looks like he was sanding Sheetrock.

There’s a horrible euphemism.

Stacyhs 12th October 2020 01:34 AM

I know what you mean, Firestone. It's a mixed bag in our family, too. None of us had any family or friends who have contracted Covid. My husband is working from home which he actually prefers even though he had to take a 10% pay cut. My daughter sometimes works from home and sometimes goes into the office (she works in a computer lab so has to go in more often than not). Our portfolio has done well, too. But the stress of being stuck at home for so long and of having Trump acting like a lunatic and the fear of him being re-elected has really done a number on my nerves.

The Don 12th October 2020 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 13255013)
I'm not sure if it is the same in the US as here in Belgium, but a large group of middle tier and high tier employees are mostly doing fine (financially). There are of course many people who suffered financially or have been made redundant, but it wouldn't surprise me if in Belgium at least 56% are economically better off than four years ago. Mentally, of course not.

It's made no difference to me. Client visits aside, I've been mostly working from home for a decade. One of our neighbours is a senior health and safety engineer for a major engineering firm. He used to have a 1 hour each way commute to his office in the centre of Bristol. Now he works from home almost all the time. For him this is a major life upgrade.

It helps that he really loves his wife and children and so revels in the extra time he gets to spend with them and working from home helps his health in terms of getting out to exercise, managing his diet and knocking smoking on the head.

KDLarsen 12th October 2020 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate (Post 13254982)
I'm perplexed. He is correct. A Gallup Poll shows 56% of people say they and their family are better off than they were four years ago.

That is compared to 2012 (45%) and 2004 (47%) and 1992 (38%).

Who are all these people? We have an out of control pandemic, unemployment, businesses closing, disrespect in the world, wild fires, riots in the streets, shortages on consumer goods, fear of getting a hair cut, isolation, disruption on personal lives, two hundred thousand dead, huge national debt, constant lies and deceit in government, there was an earthquake! A terrible flood! Locusts!

How can 56% say they are doing better than four years ago? I must be doing something wrong.

You've probably seen it already, but The Daily Show's Jordan Klepper did one of his vox pops with a Trump supporter recently, who was over the moon at how his income had quadrupled under Trump. His profession?

Debt relief.


Even Klepper couldn't stop laughing at the absurdity of it.

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Firestone 12th October 2020 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13255019)
I know what you mean, Firestone. It's a mixed bag in our family, too. None of us had any family or friends who have contracted Covid. My husband is working from home which he actually prefers even though he had to take a 10% pay cut. My daughter sometimes works from home and sometimes goes into the office (she works in a computer lab so has to go in more often than not). Our portfolio has done well, too. But the stress of being stuck at home for so long and of having Trump acting like a lunatic and the fear of him being re-elected has really done a number on my nerves.

On my nerves too, even though I'm not a US citizen.
I'm not yet sure if I'll dare stay awake on election night and watch CNN as the results come in. I'm a big fan of election shows, but in 2016 I chickened out, as I feared what actually happened. (:chicken emoji: )

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13255026)
It's made no difference to me. Client visits aside, I've been mostly working from home for a decade. One of our neighbours is a senior health and safety engineer for a major engineering firm. He used to have a 1 hour each way commute to his office in the centre of Bristol. Now he works from home almost all the time. For him this is a major life upgrade.

It helps that he really loves his wife and children and so revels in the extra time he gets to spend with them and working from home helps his health in terms of getting out to exercise, managing his diet and knocking smoking on the head.

Working from home is a major life upgrade for us too, for the reasons you mention (minus the commute, which is/was a 15 minute walk for me). I hope WFH will remain a thing after COVID-19 is behind us.

But we digress, so back to the topic

What this discussion shows, is that the famous "it's the economy, stupid" isn't necessarily true. Trump is such a disaster, that even a "good" economy probably won't save him.
That's why, IMO, the 56% who are better off doesn't translate in similar approval numbers.

Segnosaur 12th October 2020 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pixel42 (Post 13255010)
People might be feeling better off for all sorts of reasons that have nothing to do with Trump and/or the state of the economy. Maybe they got a promotion, or finally paid off their student loan.

It should also be noted that in some cases, the factors that make people better off personally may only be temporary.

For example, the trump tax cuts and deregulation may have (temporarily) boosted the stock market (which may make people think "I am doing better"), but eventually the resulting federal debt will need to be dealt with (meaning people will be worse off in the future).

And Trump's environmental policies (global warming denials, more oil drilling) give people lower gas and electricity prices now, but people will be worse off in the future dealing with the environmental impact.

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Stacyhs 12th October 2020 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KDLarsen (Post 13255027)
You've probably seen it already, but The Daily Show's Jordan Klepper did one of his vox pops with a Trump supporter recently, who was over the moon at how his income had quadrupled under Trump. His profession?

Debt relief.


Even Klepper couldn't stop laughing at the absurdity of it.

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I had to laugh at the guy who was so stupid he completely missed the "sheep" bit. But the guy who admitted his father had underlying health conditions but still wouldn't wear a mask, I just wanted to slap.

abaddon 12th October 2020 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 13255013)
If a pollster would ask me this specific question today, I wouldn't know how to answer it, frankly.

Obviously, we feel miserable with all the COVID-19 restrictions that have now been in place for 7 months, with no end in sight. And of course we know people who have been ill or died from COVID-19, which makes us sad.

But financially? Well, we are better off now than four years ago.
As we both can work from home, our income has not suffered. As there is less we can spend on, our savings have actually increased since march. As the stock market has been volatile but not really falling, our investments are doing great on balance.

That's false. How do I know that? Because I have been on the road every day since COVID started for what is regarded as essential work. I have claimed no benefits of any stripe and just kept on working through all of it. Because of that I know that lots of people are hurting financially. I am too, just not enough to require state aid.

Since I am on the road every day, I see how people are actually behaving. This pandemic will inevitably get worse due to that behaviour.

Tero 12th October 2020 04:25 AM

Trump rally this evening may happen. Airport touch down, talk, then fly out.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/poli...x3i-story.html

By buying a ticket you sign a disclaimer
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The Sanford event is set for 7 p.m., with access to the airport opening at 4 p.m. The Trump campaign and the White House have not indicated if any additional safety measures will be taken to prevent transmission of the COVID-19 virus among those traveling on Air Force One or those attending the Sanford rally.

Trump’s campaign website, which is asking people to register for tickets to the rally, continues to include this warning: “In attending the event, you and any guests voluntarily assume all risks related to exposure to COVID-19, and waive, release, and discharge Donald J. Trump for President, Inc.; the host venue; or any of their affiliates, directors, officers, employees, agents, contractors, or volunteers from any and all liability under any theory, whether in negligence or otherwise, for any illness or injury.”

Pixel42 12th October 2020 04:47 AM

Let's hope it's like the Tulsa rally, i.e. hardly anyone turns up.

timhau 12th October 2020 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Tero (Post 13255093)
Trump rally this evening may happen. Airport touch down, talk, then fly out.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/poli...x3i-story.html

By buying a ticket you sign a disclaimer

"I take no responsibility" once again. That should be his campaign slogan.

jadebox 12th October 2020 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Pixel42 (Post 13255010)
People might be feeling better off for all sorts of reasons that have nothing to do with Trump and/or the state of the economy. Maybe they got a promotion, or finally paid off their student loan.

Plus unemployment benefits have been increased.

Captain_Swoop 12th October 2020 05:24 AM

Trump Tweets

Leading by a lot!
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Brit Hume
@brithume
Mr. Trump pulled out of the Paris Climate Accord and eased Obama-Biden climate regulations, and the U.S. is still leading the world in CO2 reductions. https://wsj.com/articles/kamala-harr...on-11602283301

Captain_Swoop 12th October 2020 05:28 AM

Trum tweets

The FBI and Law Enforcement must focus their energy on ANTIFA and the Radical Left, those who have spent the summer trying to burn down poorly run Democrat Cities throughout the USA!

Big spike in the China Plague in Europe and other places that the Fake News used to hold up as examples of places that are doing well, in order to make the U.S look bad. Be strong and vigilant, it will run its course. Vaccines and cures are coming fast!

Captain_Swoop 12th October 2020 05:31 AM

Trump Tweets
These are Biden fools. ANTIFA RADICALS. Get them FBI, and get them now!

Taking advantage of fools. Law & Order! Portland, call in the Feds!

Put these animals in jail, now. The Radical Left only knows how to take advantage of very dumb “leadership” fools. This is Biden! Law & Order!

The Radical Left fools in Portland don’t want any help from real Law Enforcement which we will provide instantaneously. Vote!
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Bob001 12th October 2020 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 13255013)
....
I'm not sure if it is the same in the US as here in Belgium, but a large group of middle tier and high tier employees are mostly doing fine (financially). There are of course many people who suffered financially or have been made redundant, but it wouldn't surprise me if in Belgium at least 56% are economically better off than four years ago. Mentally, of course not.

Belgium and the rest of Europe have much stronger social safety nets than the U.S., and basic anti-covid measures like wearing masks are not political flashpoints. Americans who are able to work at home for the same pay probably haven't suffered much. But many, many people aren't able to do that. They either lose their jobs or keep working under potentially dangerous conditions. And in the U.S., unemployment benefits are usually pretty limited, and the first thing that happens when you lose your job is you lose your health insurance. Many Americans are going to pay a high price for a long time.

Ladewig 12th October 2020 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13254962)
Trump Tweets

The Democrats are very proud!
Quote Tweet

Tony Shaffer
@T_S_P_O_O_K_Y
· Sep 29
Yep 3 Supreme Court Justices & 3 Nobel Peace Prize nominations...
Hmmm...I'd say this is pretty darn good...
The Left is upset that @realDonaldTrump has not started any new wars...
The never Trumpers are upset that he has lived up to his campaign promises...
Strange times... twitter.com/realDonaldTrum…

Threee SCOTUS justices die when there is a Republican President and a Republican Senate. Im sure why that is considered “pretty darn good.” Trump didn’t cause their deaths and no real skill was required to replace them.

...............
Normal presidents: I feel honored to be placed in such great company.

President Trump: I didn’t get enough press coverage.

Segnosaur 12th October 2020 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladewig (Post 13255153)
Threee SCOTUS justices die when there is a Republican President and a Republican Senate. Im sure why that is considered “pretty darn good.” Trump didn’t cause their deaths and no real skill was required to replace them.

And not only that... It should be noted that Stubby Mcbonespur's picks seem to ha be been so problematic that it might just cost the republicans the senate. (Susan Collins' popularity took a dive after she voted to confirm drunky mcrapeface.)

Had trump handled it better, perhaps fewer woman would be switching from trump to Biden.


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JoeMorgue 12th October 2020 06:18 AM

Yeah and none of that changes the fact that there is now a strongly conservative, even theocratic, bias on the highest court of the land, very likely for the rest of some of our lifetimes.

3 SCOTUS judges is a more than fair trade for even the biggest of Blue Waves we could see in November.

Even if they get curb stomped this election like a Hitler Pinata at a Mossad convention the Republicans will get the Senate back sooner or later. The Republicans will get the Presidency back sooner or later. The Democrats will not, without major rework of the whole system, get SCOTUS back anytime real soon.

jnelso99 12th October 2020 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13255127)
Trump Tweets
These are Biden fools. ANTIFA RADICALS. Get them FBI, and get them now!

Taking advantage of fools. Law & Order! Portland, call in the Feds!

Put these animals in jail, now. The Radical Left only knows how to take advantage of very dumb “leadership” fools. This is Biden! Law & Order!

The Radical Left fools in Portland don’t want any help from real Law Enforcement which we will provide instantaneously. Vote!
Quote Tweet

Looks like someone learned a new word.

Segnosaur 12th October 2020 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13255162)
Yeah and none of that changes the fact that there is now a strongly conservative, even theocratic, bias on the highest court of the land, very likely for the rest of some of our lifetimes.

3 SCOTUS judges is a more than fair trade for even the biggest of Blue Waves we could see in November.

Even if they get curb stomped this election like a Hitler Pinata at a Mossad convention the Republicans will get the Senate back sooner or later. The Republicans will get the Presidency back sooner or later. The Democrats will not, without major rework of the whole system, get SCOTUS back anytime real soon.

Unless of course democrats get complete control of Congress and the white house and use it to expand the supreme Court.

Furthermore, if they really want to play hardball (which I think they should) they can add Puerto Rico (and perhaps Washington) as new states, making it harder for republicans to take the senate in the near future, thus giving more control over judicial nominations for several terms.

And the republicans have a very unfavourable senate election map in the 2022 midterms.

ETA : plus we are talking about Trump's accomplishments... Yes conservative judges were the goal of the republicans, but I am sure if given a choice they would have preferred conservative judges+a senate majority over conservative judges+senate minority. If trump had handled it better they might have had the former, now it looks like we are heading towards the latter.

JoeMorgue 12th October 2020 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnelso99 (Post 13255172)
Looks like someone learned a new word.

Please nobody teach him "Grifters."

The Man 12th October 2020 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by gypsyjackson (Post 13255014)
There’s a horrible euphemism.

Well played.*








* A not quite as horrible euphemism


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