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Filippo Lippi 29th October 2020 07:07 AM

Looking at Twitter, the members of his cult still have scales over their eyes

p0lka 29th October 2020 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13272391)
"hol aint lawmakers."

like the vatican or iran?

you're missing bits.

Captain_Swoop 30th October 2020 05:10 AM

We're on the precipice of the NHS being overwhelmed with dying people and an economically catastrophic Brexit because of the utter failure of the government.
But look over there at the old man with a beard and no power.

Darat 2nd November 2020 06:52 AM

The Independent: The elite haven't had to overcome adversity and canít cope in a crisis.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-b1454368.html

Sorry it's a link to the worse website of a national paper! It's an article that explains so much about the current government.

The Don 3rd November 2020 10:01 AM

If a combination of Coronavirus and Brexit weren't enough, now we have terrorism to look forward to :mad:

Quote:

The UK's terrorism threat level has been upgraded from "substantial" to "severe".

The move means security chiefs believe that an attack is highly likely but there is no specific intelligence of an imminent incident.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54799377

dudalb 6th November 2020 10:32 AM

How long until Bojo tries to kiss up to Biden?

dudalb 6th November 2020 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13279443)
If a combination of Coronavirus and Brexit weren't enough, now we have terrorism to look forward to :mad:



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54799377

I guess they think the UK is next on the terrorist hit list after France and Austria.

Garrison 6th November 2020 12:25 PM

And on top of his long lost brother losing to Biden Johnson is slipping in the polls:

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics...lab-40-4-5-nov

Quote:

The latest YouGov/Times voting intention figures show Labour with 40% of the vote, meaning they're now ahead of the Conservative Party who have 35%. Last week the two parties were neck and neck with 38% each.
Starmer is also ahead in the best PM polling.

Boris had better watch out for a knife in the back given all the bad news lately.

dudalb 6th November 2020 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garrison (Post 13284455)
And on top of his long lost brother losing to Biden Johnson is slipping in the polls:

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics...lab-40-4-5-nov



Starmer is also ahead in the best PM polling.

Boris had better watch out for a knife in the back given all the bad news lately.

A revolt within his own party,perhaps?

Carrot Flower King 7th November 2020 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13284272)
How long until Bojo tries to kiss up to Biden?

I imagine that Biden's response will be that he won't deal with someone who's trying to destroy the Good Friday Agreement and that until Johnson and his cronies stop doing that he should stay a very long way away.

Carrot Flower King 7th November 2020 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13284765)
A revolt within his own party,perhaps?

The Tories? I'm shocked at the very idea, shocked, I tell you!

zooterkin 7th November 2020 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13284765)
A revolt within his own party,perhaps?

Almost certainly. He's in no danger from a general election for the next four years. Look at what happened to Maggie (spit) when she lost popular support, despite having won a landslide election victory three years earlier.

dudalb 7th November 2020 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zooterkin (Post 13285382)
Almost certainly. He's in no danger from a general election for the next four years. Look at what happened to Maggie (spit) when she lost popular support, despite having won a landslide election victory three years earlier.

And it's nosecret that lot of Tories have a huge dislike for Johnson.

Carrot Flower King 7th November 2020 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13285583)
And it's nosecret that lot of Tories have a huge dislike for Johnson.

But were still stupid/cynical/misguided/spineless/clueless/sheeplike/grovelling to vote for someone who has long been a serial liar, has never actually achieved anything of substance (getting elected to office and then not doing anything with that office is not of substance), has long shifted opinion with the wind as long as it benefitted his own ego...

Who and what did they think they were electing?

Garrison 7th November 2020 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King (Post 13285630)
But were still stupid/cynical/misguided/spineless/clueless/sheeplike/grovelling to vote for someone who has long been a serial liar, has never actually achieved anything of substance (getting elected to office and then not doing anything with that office is not of substance), has long shifted opinion with the wind as long as it benefitted his own ego...

Who and what did they think they were electing?

A sucker who would take the blame when Brexit negotiations end in failure?

Carrot Flower King 7th November 2020 10:36 AM

^That's a better explanation than any I can think of, but doesn't explain why my MP, a serious hard Brexiteer, supported him, 'cos she really, really, really wants Brexit.

Darat 8th November 2020 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King (Post 13285630)
But were still stupid/cynical/misguided/spineless/clueless/sheeplike/grovelling to vote for someone who has long been a serial liar, has never actually achieved anything of substance (getting elected to office and then not doing anything with that office is not of substance), has long shifted opinion with the wind as long as it benefitted his own ego...

Who and what did they think they were electing?

He got rid of bendy buses!

Mojo 8th November 2020 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13286421)
He got rid of bendy buses!


And replaced them with Borisbuses that have pretty much all the same faults and then some.

Captain_Swoop 8th November 2020 03:26 AM

Bendy busses are great, they use them in York for the Park and Ride.

Captain_Swoop 8th November 2020 03:35 AM

Raab on Sky News spends two minutes not saying all votes should be counted in a democratic election.

Video in link.

https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/statu...75795142025222

Garrison 8th November 2020 06:58 AM

And of course they have backtracked, again, over providing meals for children:

Marcus Rashford welcomes school holiday support climbdown

The Don 8th November 2020 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garrison (Post 13286554)
And of course they have backtracked, again, over providing meals for children:

Marcus Rashford welcomes school holiday support climbdown

Welcome to government by headline :mad:

It's the right decision but the wrong process.

Garrison 8th November 2020 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13286873)
Welcome to government by headline :mad:

It's the right decision but the wrong process.

Still 50% better than Brexit...

Darat 8th November 2020 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garrison (Post 13286554)
And of course they have backtracked, again, over providing meals for children:

Marcus Rashford welcomes school holiday support climbdown

Hang on you mean they agree that their previous policy to let children go hungry was wrong....

catsmate 9th November 2020 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13287046)
Hang on you mean they agree that their previous policy to let children go hungry was wrong....

No, just unpopular.

P.J. Denyer 9th November 2020 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catsmate (Post 13287463)
No, just unpopular.

Imagine the kind of people you must have to associate with for that to come as a surprise?

ponderingturtle 9th November 2020 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King (Post 13285654)
^That's a better explanation than any I can think of, but doesn't explain why my MP, a serious hard Brexiteer, supported him, 'cos she really, really, really wants Brexit.

But Boris will deliver the no deal brexit she wants, and take the blame for it. Win win really to any sufficiently cynical brexiteer.

Carrot Flower King 10th November 2020 03:55 AM

^Good point, I just don't think she's actually bright enough though, unless it's a cunning disguise....

Darat 10th November 2020 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King (Post 13289071)
^Good point, I just don't think she's actually bright enough though, unless it's a cunning disguise....

Sadly part of his "appeal" is the still significant remnants of our class system.

catsmate 10th November 2020 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P.J. Denyer (Post 13287805)
Imagine the kind of people you must have to associate with for that to come as a surprise?

I've met some of them.

P.J. Denyer 11th November 2020 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catsmate (Post 13289854)
I've met some of them.

My condolences.

Carrot Flower King 11th November 2020 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13289080)
Sadly part of his "appeal" is the still significant remnants of our class system.

Too true.

Mind, my MP has tried to hide her privileged background (married to minor local aristocracy and living in a manor house) by describing herself on election material as a "farmer's wife". Strictly speaking this might be seen as true, but the "farm" is not anything like the ones most hill farmers of northern Northumberland survive on...

And, as I've mentioned before, that other "public" school product, Cummings, D, went to the school in Durham City that wealthier folk sent their bairns who weren't clever enough to get into either of the 2 very good state grammar schools (one of which I attended).

Beats me why anyone is convinced by these characters...

gypsyjackson 11th November 2020 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King (Post 13290592)
Too true.

Mind, my MP has tried to hide her privileged background (married to minor local aristocracy and living in a manor house) by describing herself on election material as a "farmer's wife". Strictly speaking this might be seen as true, but the "farm" is not anything like the ones most hill farmers of northern Northumberland survive on...

And, as I've mentioned before, that other "public" school product, Cummings, D, went to the school in Durham City that wealthier folk sent their bairns who weren't clever enough to get into either of the 2 very good state grammar schools (one of which I attended).

Beats me why anyone is convinced by these characters...

Anne Marie Trevelyan? I wondered if she would get education secretary when FCO and DFID were merged, as there was speculation that would trigger a reshuffle. In the end it didnít, and she now doesnít have a Ministerial post.

Captain_Swoop 11th November 2020 09:29 AM

I didn’t know partners of PMs had a say on government. But then again as both Dido Harding and Kate Bingham are given lucrative contracts due to being married to members of the government, it should come as no surprise.
And they laugh as they get away with it all - and it's our money, money every working person on these islands has paid in taxes. What a gravy train it is.
This has always been a corrupt country - from the days of the rotten boroughs and the purchasing of positions to the Profumo Affair and the Expenses Scandal - but today the corruption is about as blatant as it has ever been. The same elite screwing us as ever - but with a smirk.

Captain_Swoop 11th November 2020 09:30 AM

Jake Berry prompted a backlash from the Northern Ballet after he suggested Accrington Stanley was the northern equivalent of the Royal Opera House

Jake Berry said opera and ballet was “at the heart of their culture for people living in southern England,” but in the north “it is our local football club”.
The Rossendale and Darwen MP even suggested Accrington Stanley was the northern equivalent of the Royal Opera House.
The former Northern Powerhouse minister made the point in a Commons debate demanding action to protect football clubs.

But his comments led to a furious backlash from the Northern Ballet, which tweeted: “We are disappointed that an MP and former government minister continues to perpetuate tropes that culture in the north is of less value than that in London.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...rners-22994543

Captain_Swoop 11th November 2020 02:55 PM

I see Croydon Council has issued a section 114 notice, effectively going bankrupt.
Central government funding to Croydon has reduced by 50% since 2010.
But it's a mystery what has caused this, of course.

Darat 12th November 2020 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13291414)
I see Croydon Council has issued a section 114 notice, effectively going bankrupt.
Central government funding to Croydon has reduced by 50% since 2010.
But it's a mystery what has caused this, of course.

No mystery, it's Labour's fault for the USA economic crash of 2008.

Squeegee Beckenheim 12th November 2020 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13290866)
I didnít know partners of PMs had a say on government. But then again as both Dido Harding and Kate Bingham are given lucrative contracts due to being married to members of the government, it should come as no surprise.
And they laugh as they get away with it all - and it's our money, money every working person on these islands has paid in taxes. What a gravy train it is.
This has always been a corrupt country - from the days of the rotten boroughs and the purchasing of positions to the Profumo Affair and the Expenses Scandal - but today the corruption is about as blatant as it has ever been. The same elite screwing us as ever - but with a smirk.

You should probably make it clear that this is a quote from someone on twitter, and that they're responding to news that Carrie Symonds was responsible for Lee Cain leaving No. 10.

Squeegee Beckenheim 12th November 2020 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13291414)
I see Croydon Council has issued a section 114 notice, effectively going bankrupt.
Central government funding to Croydon has reduced by 50% since 2010.
But it's a mystery what has caused this, of course.

Here's the source of this quote

Squeegee Beckenheim 12th November 2020 03:17 AM

https://twitter.com/christopherhope/...44506075279366

Quote:

Westminster is hugely febrile tonight. A Conservative MP phones to say there is a "massive bust up going on in Number 10" right now between Dominic Cummings and the PM. The MP says Mr Cummings has told the PM "if I go am taking these people with me", referring to other aides.

Senior Tory MPs are urging Mr Johnson to appoint David Canzini, a close ally of Sir Lynton Crosby who helped to run Mr Johnson's leadership campaign, to the role of chief of staff. One MP tells me: "We can get the old Boris back."


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