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alfaniner 14th December 2017 07:54 PM

The PAAPOTUS: "I like her. She's a good person."

Kiss of death.

TofuFighter 15th December 2017 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Greater Fool (Post 12112895)
Fixed. She was fired twice previously (once on Apprentice, once on Celebrity Apprentice).

Also incorrect... which would make it... err... quadlice...
1. Apprentice Season 1 - 2004 - fired
2. Apprentice Season 8 - 2008 - fired (Celebrity Apprentice)
3. Apprentice Season 13 - 2013 - fired (All-Star Celebrity)

It should be noted that Trump's tweet doesn't include the usual "they're such an awesome person" compliments. I'd imagine John Kelly wrote the tweet himself.

TheSupermeerkat 15th December 2017 03:42 AM

Former Apprentice star on leaving Trump's White House: 'I've seen things that made me uncomfortable'
Omarosa Manigault-Newman denies reports she had been fired from her post as an assistant to Donald Trump, and says she has ‘a profound story’ to share.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-uncomfortable

President Grandpa will have something to say about this. Where’s my popcorn?

Delphic Oracle 15th December 2017 05:04 AM

Quote:

Her refusal to be a public advocate for the White House as its most prominent African American woman culminated on Tuesday night in a meeting with chief of staff John Kelly and several lawyers in the White House Situation Room that the source said ended with her departure from the administration
That can't be right.

We're using the Situation Room for firing assistants?

Either the reporter doesn't know the Roosevelt Conference Room from the Situation Room or this administration is just flat out goofy.

This is where the tapatalk signature that annoys people used to be

TofuFighter 15th December 2017 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSupermeerkat (Post 12114721)
Former Apprentice star on leaving Trump's White House: 'I've seen things that made me uncomfortable'
Omarosa Manigault-Newman denies reports she had been fired from her post as an assistant to Donald Trump, and says she has ‘a profound story’ to share.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-uncomfortable

President Grandpa will have something to say about this. Where’s my popcorn?

Sounds like she's just plugging her book.

“As the only African American woman in this White House, as a senior staff and assistant to the president, I have seen things that have made me uncomfortable, that have upset me, that have affected me deeply and emotionally, that has affected my community and my people,” Omarosa said.

“And when I can tell my story, it is a profound story that I know the world will want to hear,”

Oystein 15th December 2017 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle (Post 12114753)
That can't be right.

We're using the Situation Room for firing assistants?

Either the reporter doesn't know the Roosevelt Conference Room from the Situation Room or this administration is just flat out goofy.

The SR can display more TV channels at once. And it's way cooler. And Roosevelt was a gawddamned Democritter.

Delphic Oracle 15th December 2017 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TofuFighter (Post 12114755)
Sounds like she's just plugging her book.

“As the only African American woman in this White House, as a senior staff and assistant to the president, I have seen things that have made me uncomfortable, that have upset me, that have affected me deeply and emotionally, that has affected my community and my people,” Omarosa said.

“And when I can tell my story, it is a profound story that I know the world will want to hear,”

Oh yeah, any time someone is making statements to the press about the whopper of a story they have, I always immediately get a thought like, "well, the cameras are rolling, don't be shy!"

This is where the tapatalk signature that annoys people used to be

Oystein 15th December 2017 05:55 AM

Has anybody seen her on TV/video yet, after the ouster? Were the $.$ signs blinging brightly in her eyes?

This may become a book even I could buy, fodder for commutes or solutary after-work beers.

The Don 15th December 2017 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oystein (Post 12114791)
Has anybody seen her on TV/video yet, after the ouster? Were the $.$ signs blinging brightly in her eyes?

This may become a book even I could buy, fodder for commutes or solutary after-work beers.

I honestly doubt that there is anything substantive against the President or his inner circle and in the event that there is, she is likely to keep quiet about it because she seems completely financially dependent on Donald Trump.

Oystein 15th December 2017 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Don (Post 12114805)
I honestly doubt that there is anything substantive against the President or his inner circle and in the event that there is, she is likely to keep quiet about it because she seems completely financially dependent on Donald Trump.

Where did you read that I expect a substantive book?? :boggled:

Through what channels do you imagine Trump will sponsor her 2018-2020? And why should he? Out of loyalty? :D

a_unique_person 15th December 2017 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSupermeerkat (Post 12114721)
Former Apprentice star on leaving Trump's White House: 'I've seen things that made me uncomfortable'
Omarosa Manigault-Newman denies reports she had been fired from her post as an assistant to Donald Trump, and says she has ‘a profound story’ to share.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-uncomfortable

President Grandpa will have something to say about this. Where’s my popcorn?

I think she means she has a profound story to sell.

The Don 15th December 2017 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oystein (Post 12114816)
Where did you read that I expect a substantive book?? :boggled:

You seemed to indicate that you thought that there may be something of interest for you in the book. I had assumed that this would be some kind of revelation about the President or someone close to him.

IMO if there is a book it will be exclusively about her and her time, it will tease at having some juicy information about the President and/or his Administration but this will turn out to be something like he really likes Big Macs.

I apologise if I have misconstrued.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oystein (Post 12114816)
Through what channels do you imagine Trump will sponsor her 2018-2020? And why should he? Out of loyalty? :D

The usual channels I guess. It seems that she keeps coming back to The Apprentice well to drink and that the President has also provided a job within his campaign, transition team and Administration. Despite the fact that he shouldn't, The President seems to exert considerable influence over the people running the Trump organisation so that could be one avenue to providing her with money, corporate donors may be another.

As to why, I don't know, but he seems to have been doing it for a decade or more.

WilliamSeger 16th December 2017 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a_unique_person (Post 12114817)
I think she means she has a profound story to sell.

I hope it includes telling us just what the hell her job was. It's a profound mystery.

Oystein 16th December 2017 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamSeger (Post 12115953)
I hope it includes telling us just what the hell her job was. It's a profound mystery.

Perhaps that IS the scandal she saw there? That for 10 months, no one would come up with a job description for her.

Trebuchet 16th December 2017 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oystein (Post 12114791)
Has anybody seen her on TV/video yet, after the ouster? Were the $.$ signs blinging brightly in her eyes?

This may become a book even I could buy, fodder for commutes or solutary after-work beers.

She was on Good Morning America, claiming that if she'd really had a tantrum or been escorted out someone would have taken video on their phone and posted it to YouTube. Seriously, that's what she said.

quadraginta 16th December 2017 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12116047)
She was on Good Morning America, claiming that if she'd really had a tantrum or been escorted out someone would have taken video on their phone and posted it to YouTube. Seriously, that's what she said.


She was a White House insider. She would know what sort of common practices are expected there.

Craig4 16th December 2017 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12116047)
She was on Good Morning America, claiming that if she'd really had a tantrum or been escorted out someone would have taken video on their phone and posted it to YouTube. Seriously, that's what she said.

She's probably right. If the intent was to humiliate her, I suspect that would have been arranged.

ponderingturtle 18th December 2017 08:33 AM

So who's next?

Sessions?
Mueller?
Tillerson?

Or a pardon and reinstatement for Flynn?

d4m10n 18th December 2017 08:49 AM

Mueller doesn't work for the WH.

Stacko 18th December 2017 08:51 AM

Since Trump has taken to referring to Rosenstein as a Democrat, he might not have much time left.

Squeegee Beckenheim 18th December 2017 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle (Post 12117805)
Or a pardon and reinstatement for Flynn?

Well, it wasn't long ago that Trump said publicly that there was no plan to pardon Flynn "yet". So it does look like it's on the cards.

Beelzebuddy 18th December 2017 09:27 AM

Flynn's already flipped. No point wasting a pardon on him unless Trump thinks there's stuff Flynn knows but hasn't divulged yet.

Stacko 18th December 2017 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy (Post 12117868)
Flynn's already flipped. No point wasting a pardon on him unless Trump thinks there's stuff Flynn knows but hasn't divulged yet.

It seems like witness tampering.

ponderingturtle 18th December 2017 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacko (Post 12117871)
It seems like witness tampering.

Lowering the bar on witness tampering for the family though. Used to be you had a prostitute sleep with your brother in law while you filmed it, and gave the tape to your sister. Now that is real Trump-Kushner style witness tampering.

No one really steps up their game anymore and are just so lazy. Kids today.

Trebuchet 18th December 2017 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy (Post 12117868)
Flynn's already flipped. No point wasting a pardon on him unless Trump thinks there's stuff Flynn knows but hasn't divulged yet.

A pardon might, in fact, decrease Flynn's fifth amendment protection and allow him to be compelled to testify.

Trump responded to a reporter's question this morning by saying he wasn't going to fire Mueller.

The Don 18th December 2017 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12117919)
A pardon might, in fact, decrease Flynn's fifth amendment protection and allow him to be compelled to testify.

Trump responded to a reporter's question this morning by saying he wasn't going to fire Mueller.

....because he cannot.

He can however fire Rod Rosenstein, appoint a compliant successor who will then fire Mueller. He might even be able to apply enough pressure to Rosenstein to persuade him to fore Mueller.

WilliamSeger 18th December 2017 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Don (Post 12118025)
....because he cannot.

He can however fire Rod Rosenstein, appoint a compliant successor who will then fire Mueller. He might even be able to apply enough pressure to Rosenstein to persuade him to fore Mueller.

I'm guessing Sessions is next. Sessions replacement would take over the investigation from Rosenstein, who only has it because Sessions is recused. Then, that new AG can agree with Trump that donating to Democrats and saying mean things about Trump makes you an Enemy of the State so the investigation is "corrupt."

ponderingturtle 18th December 2017 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamSeger (Post 12118041)
I'm guessing Sessions is next. Sessions replacement would take over the investigation from Rosenstein, who only has it because Sessions is recused. Then, that new AG can agree with Trump that donating to Democrats and saying mean things about Trump makes you an Enemy of the State so the investigation is "corrupt."

But doesn't that mean it is time to purge Tillerman?

WilliamSeger 18th December 2017 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle (Post 12118108)
But doesn't that mean it is time to purge Tillerman?

Maybe as a diversion or vindictive spite, but Trump has effectively fired Tillerson already, and since he doesn't care about the State Dept or diplomacy, there's no rush to find a replacement.

Craig4 18th December 2017 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Don (Post 12118025)
....because he cannot.

He can however fire Rod Rosenstein, appoint a compliant successor who will then fire Mueller. He might even be able to apply enough pressure to Rosenstein to persuade him to fore Mueller.

He can't at least not yet. There are not a lot of complaints coming from the Senate, just some true Trumpites in the House. The Trump Surrogates have not yet laid the groundwork to keep the Senate from reacting.

Craig4 18th December 2017 04:32 PM

I still think Kushner is on the way out. He wasn't at the announcement about Jerusalem and The Hair hasn't touted him lately. He's probably neck deep in the e-mails Mueller just got and he's going to need to go back to New York and polish the silver spoon his daddy left him real soon.

Crossbow 19th December 2017 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 12118493)
I still think Kushner is on the way out. He wasn't at the announcement about Jerusalem and The Hair hasn't touted him lately. He's probably neck deep in the e-mails Mueller just got and he's going to need to go back to New York and polish the silver spoon his daddy left him real soon.

Gee whiz!

If Kushner actually does get the boot, then his daddy in-law Trump must be seriously worried about what the investigation is going to show.

ponderingturtle 19th December 2017 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 12118493)
I still think Kushner is on the way out. He wasn't at the announcement about Jerusalem and The Hair hasn't touted him lately. He's probably neck deep in the e-mails Mueller just got and he's going to need to go back to New York and polish the silver spoon his daddy left him real soon.

Think he will get his fathers old prison cell?

Craig4 19th December 2017 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle (Post 12119127)
Think he will get his fathers old prison cell?

He'll go to FCI Ottisville, NY, so it will be more like a cubicle. It's popular with Jewish inmates from Wall Street. They have a kosher meal line and observe Jewish holidays.

d4m10n 10th January 2018 06:58 AM

Fun recap of all the departures from the White House and the administration more broadly:

https://youtu.be/aBTvK3N16uQ

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Full list starts around the two minute mark.

Giordano 10th January 2018 08:42 AM

Can we now count Bannon twice? Sort of two-step departure?

Squeegee Beckenheim 11th January 2018 09:18 AM

https://www.npr.org/2018/01/10/57688...-midterm-fight

Quote:

There are now 31 Republicans who will not seek re-election in November: 19 who are retiring outright and another 12 who are running for higher office. And that list is is expected to grow in the coming weeks.

The last time a party had nearly that many members retire during a midterm year was in 1994, when 28 Democrats left and the GOP subsequently took back control of Congress in the Republican Revolution.

Beelzebuddy 11th January 2018 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giordano (Post 12141703)
Can we now count Bannon twice? Sort of two-step departure?

I think "departure" is the wrong term for it. He's in remission, but he could flare up again at any time.

Trebuchet 11th January 2018 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giordano (Post 12141703)
Can we now count Bannon twice? Sort of two-step departure?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy (Post 12143359)
I think "departure" is the wrong term for it. He's in remission, but he could flare up again at any time.

Like Glenn Beck after being fired from Fox, he'll set up his own organization and be stronger than ever.

Degeneve 11th January 2018 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giordano (Post 12141703)
Can we now count Bannon twice? Sort of two-step departure?

Bannon ended up drowned in the swamp he said we would drain. Sad! would say his old pal... :D

Beelzebuddy 11th January 2018 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12143385)
Like Glenn Beck after being fired from Fox, he'll set up his own organization and be stronger than ever.

Did Glenn Beck metastasize? What societal organ did he find himself lodged in?

Trebuchet 11th January 2018 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy (Post 12143465)
Did Glenn Beck metastasize? What societal organ did he find himself lodged in?

The "heartland"?

Giordano 11th January 2018 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12143385)
Like Glenn Beck after being fired from Fox, he'll set up his own organization and be stronger than ever.

It;s like Obi-Wan Kenobi's challenge in Star Wars:
“IF YOU STRIKE ME DOWN, I SHALL BECOME MORE POWERFUL THAN YOU CAN POSSIBLY IMAGINE.”

Except Bannon looks and acts much more like the Evil Emperor Palpatine.

turingtest 11th January 2018 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy (Post 12143359)
I think "departure" is the wrong term for it. He's in remission, but he could flare up again at any time.

The first word that came to mind wrt the highlighted was "hemorrhoid."

The Great Zaganza 19th January 2018 12:18 PM

I nominate John Kelly has the next contestant being voted off the White House Island:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018...mp-border-wall

Trump didn't like being called uniformed or the suggestion that his ideas can evolve.

The Don 22nd January 2018 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 12153599)
I nominate John Kelly has the next contestant being voted off the White House Island:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018...mp-border-wall

Trump didn't like being called uniformed or the suggestion that his ideas can evolve.

Maybe, but President Trump loves him a general....

Lurch 22nd January 2018 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Don (Post 12156147)
Maybe, but President Trump loves him a general....

Corporal Bonespurs loves him a General.

Stacko 22nd January 2018 10:02 AM

Wilbur Ross is looking like a dark house candidate.

Quote:

One problem: Ross’s efforts to wheel and deal with the Chinese have left the president unimpressed. Another problem: He keeps falling asleep in meetings.

Early in Trump’s presidency, Ross was his go-to negotiator, helming the administration’s trade talks with the Chinese. After a few months, though, Trump concluded he was doing a terrible job.

In a series of Oval Office meetings about six months into his presidency, Trump eviscerated Ross, telling him he’d screwed up, and badly.

Shalamar 22nd January 2018 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lurch (Post 12156236)
Corporal Bonespurs loves him a General.

That's CADET Bonespurs.

Dr. Keith 22nd January 2018 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Don (Post 12156147)
Maybe, but President Trump loves him a general....

Wrong thread: http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=326593


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