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d4m10n 22nd January 2018 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 12153599)
I nominate John Kelly has the next contestant being voted off the White House Island:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018...mp-border-wall

Trump didn't like being called uniformed or the suggestion that his ideas can evolve.

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/sta...07864243789825

Magic eight ball says outlook not good.

Lurch 22nd January 2018 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Shalamar (Post 12156423)
That's CADET Bonespurs.

I realized my mistake shortly after posting. I must have had in back of mind another infamous former corporal who, through his overweening self image of greatness, fracked up his nation.

thaiboxerken 23rd January 2018 09:27 PM

Rumor is that Ivanka is looking for Kelly's replacement.

It's disturbing that Ivanka is in charge of this, particularly since she did such a great job with Scaramucci.

jimbob 23rd January 2018 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 12158578)
Rumor is that Ivanka is looking for Kelly's replacement.

It's disturbing that Ivanka is in charge of this, particularly since she did such a great job with Scaramucci.

I disagree, the trouble with Kelly is that he had a spurious air of relative competence. If you are going to have a clown show, it's best to have such a clown show that even some of Trump's supporters start to admit this to themselves.

Trebuchet 24th January 2018 10:52 AM

Melania. There are indications she's not happy about pornstargate.

jimbob 24th January 2018 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12159248)
Melania. There are indications she's not happy about pornstargate.

I guess that it is the humiliation rather than the infidelity.

Squeegee Beckenheim 31st January 2018 10:30 AM

Trey Gowdy has retired

Trebuchet 31st January 2018 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim (Post 12167004)

Not exactly White House.

Note this:
Quote:

This is the right time, for me, to leave politics and return to the justice system.
He's no doubt looking for a federal judgeship, perhaps SCOTUS.

TheL8Elvis 31st January 2018 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12167165)
Not exactly White House.

Note this:

He's no doubt looking for a federal judgeship, perhaps SCOTUS.

Looking for Ben Gazi ....

a_unique_person 2nd February 2018 10:40 AM

Rosenstein.

Hellbound 2nd February 2018 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by a_unique_person (Post 12169443)
Rosenstein.

And Guildencrantz?

TheL8Elvis 7th February 2018 11:58 AM

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/07/u...secretary.html

WASHINGTON — Rob Porter, the White House staff secretary, said Wednesday that he would resign his position, a day after a news account that quoted his two ex-wives accusing him of physical abuse during the course of their marriages.

“These outrageous allegations are simply false,” Mr. Porter said in a statement.


He said before he resigned due to false accusations ????:rolleyes:

according to daily mail, he is hope hicks boyfriend.

d4m10n 7th February 2018 12:10 PM

Does this one count as a notch for #metoo?

Stacko 7th February 2018 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 12175467)
Does this one count as a notch for #metoo?

Only if John Kelly gets run out of town on a rail.

d4m10n 8th February 2018 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TheL8Elvis (Post 12175447)
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/07/u...secretary.html

WASHINGTON — Rob Porter, the White House staff secretary, said Wednesday that he would resign his position, a day after a news account that quoted his two ex-wives accusing him of physical abuse during the course of their marriages.

“These outrageous allegations are simply false,” Mr. Porter said in a statement.


He said before he resigned due to false accusations ????:rolleyes:

according to daily mail, he is hope hicks boyfriend.

https://www.gq.com/story/trump-team-photo/amp

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b0f8c95010.jpg

crescent 8th February 2018 11:55 AM

In addition to the post previous to mine, this BBC article also has a nice pic of Trump and Pence meeting with advisers in the Oval Office, noting that Trump and Pence are the only two from the photo still in the White House.

No longer all the president's men

dudalb 8th February 2018 03:28 PM

John Kelly might be in play as stories of him covering up for Porter begun to circulate.

An guy at work who is a retired Marine with 20 years in the Corps says if the cover up stories are true, then Kelly has disgraced himself,dishonored the Corps, and needs to go.

dudalb 8th February 2018 05:46 PM

Just saw an interview with one of Porter's ex wives.
What she told was horrifying, but I admit watching her also thinking "God, she is cute. Porter was an idiot for alienating her".

Trebuchet 8th February 2018 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12176841)
John Kelly might be in play as stories of him covering up for Porter begun to circulate.

An guy at work who is a retired Marine with 20 years in the Corps says if the cover up stories are true, then Kelly has disgraced himself,dishonored the Corps, and needs to go.

He also explained Trump's expanded path to citizenship for Dreamers by basically saying "Mexicans are lazy".

Trebuchet 8th February 2018 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12176841)
John Kelly might be in play as stories of him covering up for Porter begun to circulate.

An guy at work who is a retired Marine with 20 years in the Corps says if the cover up stories are true, then Kelly has disgraced himself,dishonored the Corps, and needs to go.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12176955)
Just saw an interview with one of Porter's ex wives.
What she told was horrifying, but I admit watching her also thinking "God, she is cute. Porter was an idiot for alienating her".

He apparently is, or at least was, a Mormon. They're taught from childhood that women are inferior.

The Great Zaganza 9th February 2018 01:12 AM

I'm sure John Kelly is on the shortlist to go:
He kept Porter on and, more importantly, made Trump look bad by forcing him to claim he didn't know about the lack of the security clearance.
Never mind dishonor - Kelly has probably committed a crime by letting Porter handle classified information.
Lock him up!

Octavo 9th February 2018 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 12177195)
I'm sure John Kelly is on the shortlist to go:
He kept Porter on and, more importantly, made Trump look bad by forcing him to claim he didn't know about the lack of the security clearance.
Never mind dishonor - Kelly has probably committed a crime by letting Porter handle classified information.
Lock him up!

Come on, Porter was obviously just a coffee boy. How would you like it, if I illegally used the deep state to spy on your neighbour and then claim that because they're drug-dealers, you must be a pimp?

DEM LOGIC.

The Great Zaganza 9th February 2018 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Octavo (Post 12177209)
Come on, Porter was obviously just a coffee boy. How would you like it, if I illegally used the deep state to spy on your neighbour and then claim that because they're drug-dealers, you must be a pimp?

DEM LOGIC.

I bow to your superior legal analysis of the situation.
And I stand in awe of our President's ability to drink so much coffee that it takes a dozen people to deliver it.

alfaniner 9th February 2018 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 12177195)
I'm sure John Kelly is on the shortlist to go:
He kept Porter on and, more importantly, made Trump look bad by forcing him to claim he didn't know about the lack of the security clearance.
Never mind dishonor - Kelly has probably committed a crime by letting Porter handle classified information.
Lock him up!

The only crime Kelly committed (in Trump's mind) is making him look bad.

Octavo 9th February 2018 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 12177222)
I bow to your superior legal analysis of the situation.
And I stand in awe of our President's ability to drink so much coffee that it takes a dozen people to deliver it.

Well, I did read all the statutes, so that must make me a legal scholar now.

:boxedin:

Norman Alexander 9th February 2018 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 12177226)
The only crime Kelly committed (in Trump's mind) is making him look bad.

Given that it is ALL about self-image, this is likely to be most truest. Completely covfefe, even.

dudalb 9th February 2018 12:05 PM

Hope Hicks might be on the list,since her passionate defense of her main squeeze Porter yesterday ,at a time when the theme of the White House was "Rob Who?" has not registered well with the President.

dudalb 9th February 2018 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 12177226)
The only crime Kelly committed (in Trump's mind) is making him look bad.

As much as I despise Trump, making the President look bad is often a capital offense in most White Houses.

dudalb 9th February 2018 12:10 PM

I suspect somebody ..probably Hicks or Kelly...will be leaving soon;in a scandal as big as the cover up has become...with even Republicans saying the White House really blew it on this one....someone needs to be thrown to the wolves.

Beelzebuddy 9th February 2018 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12177666)
I suspect somebody ..probably Hicks or Kelly...will be leaving soon;in a scandal as big as the cover up has become...with even Republicans saying the White House really blew it on this one....someone needs to be thrown to the wolves.

If either, Kelly. Hicks is suspected to have been Trump's go-between for the Russia stuff (people would report to her with the understanding that she was relaying it to Trump), so she has too much dirt on Trump to get the sack.

phiwum 9th February 2018 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12177666)
I suspect somebody ..probably Hicks or Kelly...will be leaving soon;in a scandal as big as the cover up has become...with even Republicans saying the White House really blew it on this one....someone needs to be thrown to the wolves.

I don't know much, but Hicks has been a loyal supporter for a long time.

d4m10n 9th February 2018 01:03 PM

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/02/09/p...bus/index.html

https://twitter.com/snowdenlit/statu...54063083831299

Stacko 9th February 2018 02:20 PM

Kelly is making a strong case to be next.

Craig4 9th February 2018 03:21 PM

Yep, Whitehouse just denied Kelly offered to resign. He's out.

dudalb 9th February 2018 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by phiwum (Post 12177703)
I don't know much, but Hicks has been a loyal supporter for a long time.

And also the rumors she was a go between in the involment with Russia, and might just know too much to be fired...

dudalb 9th February 2018 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 12177871)
Yep, Whitehouse just denied Kelly offered to resign. He's out.

Yeah, time to start a betting pool as to when.........

It's simple: when a story is this embarrassing,you need to toss someboy to the Wolves,and Kelly seems to be the natural choice.

Dr. Keith 9th February 2018 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12177883)
Yeah, time to start a betting pool as to when.........

It's simple: when a story is this embarrassing,you need to toss someboy to the Wolves,and Kelly seems to be the natural choice.

The Wolves are getting so fat.

JPK 9th February 2018 04:30 PM

Good evening. Whether it's Kelly being thrown under the bus or Kelly throwing himself on his sword, it's very hard to believe that Trump was unaware that Porter was accused of the accusations. Only Trump could have cleared him to have access to the things he had without the security clearance. The White House Counsel, The Chief of Staff, Hope Hicks, and probably a dozen other people, including the POTUS, knew what was going on with Porter. The only reason we know about it is because of the story in the press. This administration would have been perfectly fine letting this situation continue forever. Ok, Pence probably didn't know because his only response to anything is "This is the first I've ever heard about this..."

quadraginta 9th February 2018 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12177666)
I suspect somebody ..probably Hicks or Kelly...will be leaving soon;in a scandal as big as the cover up has become...with even Republicans saying the White House really blew it on this one....someone needs to be thrown to the wolves.


Hicks 'and some aides' wrote a press release defending Porter at a time when it seemed like Porter was still in the White House's good graces. Their timing sucked. But press releases that keep Trump from looking bad are pretty much her portfolio, and it isn't clear to me that she knew Porter was definitely being dumped when she was involved in writing that press release. So of course it would defend him

Kelly allowed Porter to work there even though he had to have known that something hinky was going on, since the guy couldn't get a security clearance.

If he let him stay without even knowing whether or not he had a security clearance then he really needs to go.

quadraginta 9th February 2018 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phiwum (Post 12177703)
Quote:

Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12177666)
I suspect somebody ..probably Hicks or Kelly...will be leaving soon;in a scandal as big as the cover up has become...with even Republicans saying the White House really blew it on this one....someone needs to be thrown to the wolves.

I don't know much, but Hicks has been a loyal supporter for a long time.


It isn't clear to me that loyalty to Trump has proven to be a coin of much value as far as the Trump administration is concerned..

That and a dime will get you ten cents.

NoahFence 9th February 2018 08:22 PM

Next up, David Sorenson, speechwriter.

Domestic abuse

Trebuchet 9th February 2018 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quadraginta (Post 12177996)
It isn't clear to me that loyalty to Trump has proven to be a coin of much value as far as the Trump administration is concerned..

That and a dime will get you ten cents.

With Trump, loyalty is never a two-way street. He's loyal only to his ego. Anyone loyal to him eventually gets stabbed in the back.

The Great Zaganza 9th February 2018 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoahFence (Post 12178085)
Next up, David Sorenson, speechwriter.

Domestic abuse

Draining the swamp?

Skeptic Ginger 9th February 2018 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 12177222)
I bow to your superior legal analysis of the situation.
And I stand in awe of our President's ability to drink so much coffee that it takes a dozen people to deliver it.

:D

Skeptic Ginger 9th February 2018 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 12177226)
The only crime Kelly committed (in Trump's mind) is making him look bad.

I think it's all part of Trump's imaginary world. Trump screws up dozens of times a day and some of those screwups garner him negative publicity. When they happens his reality shifts into blame someone mode. If the news media talks about Kelly screwing up and conveniently only mentions in passing, Trump obviously knew, well there you go, Trump's reality shifts to Kelly's to blame.

Skeptic Ginger 9th February 2018 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPK (Post 12177926)
Good evening. Whether it's Kelly being thrown under the bus or Kelly throwing himself on his sword, it's very hard to believe that Trump was unaware that Porter was accused of the accusations. Only Trump could have cleared him to have access to the things he had without the security clearance. The White House Counsel, The Chief of Staff, Hope Hicks, and probably a dozen other people, including the POTUS, knew what was going on with Porter. The only reason we know about it is because of the story in the press. This administration would have been perfectly fine letting this situation continue forever. Ok, Pence probably didn't know because his only response to anything is "This is the first I've ever heard about this..."

Of course they all knew, but the MSM are such wimps when it comes to calling these jerks out on their lies.

Pence, OTOH, is making a great effort to distance himself from the whole crowd. He makes a conscious effort to appear left out in the dark. He did, however, know about Flynn and the whole 'lied to Pence' story was proven false because Yates had informed Pence. That was another lie the MSN allowed to go unchallenged as they repeated (after it was known Yates had informed Pence among others) that Flynn like to Pence.

Pence is counting the days to Trump's impeachment.

The Don 9th February 2018 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 12178106)
Pence is counting the days to Trump's impeachment.

IMO he's going to be disappointed then because it won't happen.

The Great Zaganza 10th February 2018 12:21 AM

IMO, Pence is too hard not to get noticed.

The Don 10th February 2018 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 12178181)
IMO, Pence is too hard not to get noticed.

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww !

The Great Zaganza 10th February 2018 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 12178185)
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww !

Freudian slip.
Sue me.


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