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Stacko 13th August 2017 03:50 PM

It looks like only one will survive between Bannon and McMaster as Bannon turns to his conspiracy theorist friends to fling poo.

d4m10n 13th August 2017 04:41 PM

I'd like McMaster to stay, so I expect he won't.

Trebuchet 13th August 2017 05:46 PM

From the link:
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Outside forces opposed to McMaster are going to allege he has a drinking problem,
Unlike Trump and his buddies, who merely have a thinking problem.

PhantomWolf 13th August 2017 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by catsmate (Post 11955578)
Thankfully without the nudity.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-magazine.html

link is sfw.

ponderingturtle 14th August 2017 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 11952135)
I suspect loyalty to the family only means they aren't the first he'd betray.

Well he did cut off the health insurance to his nephew who had a disabled child born during a dispute over his fathers will.

Trebuchet 14th August 2017 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhantomWolf (Post 11956270)
link is sfw.

It's not safe for my brain! There's a picture of Trump in it! Shame on you linking to such terrible material!

dudalb 14th August 2017 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 11956080)
I'd like McMaster to stay, so I expect he won't.

If McMasters goes, Kelly will go also and the gap between Trump and the Mainstream GOP will become an abyss.

The Don 15th August 2017 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 11957638)
If McMasters goes, Kelly will go also and the gap between Trump and the Mainstream GOP will become an abyss.

Why do you think Kelly would go too ?

Surely as an honourable military man he would continue to serve the President until those services are no longer required - unless you're saying that the kind of White House climate which would see McMaster quitting or sacked would also result in Kelly being sacked.

I don't think Trump will mind one bit that there is a gulf between him and the RINO GOP. It will be up to the GOP to bridge that gap because Trump will likely be far happier being allowed to Tweet as he wishes and without the burden of GOP expectation regarding getting legislation through Congress (as opposed to simply issuing executive orders).

d4m10n 16th August 2017 04:42 AM

Changing my vote back to Bannon.

It looks like one of those Confederate statues may have been his final horcrux.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f9c0eb21bb.jpg

Delphic Oracle 16th August 2017 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 11959592)
Changing my vote back to Bannon.

It looks like one of those Confederate statues may have been his final horcrux.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f9c0eb21bb.jpg

There's a little stain on his collar, too.

Do we have firm evidence of where he was the day of the protest?

Beelzebuddy 16th August 2017 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle (Post 11959710)
There's a little stain on his collar, too.

There's a stain on his lips, too. He must have fed recently.

Stacko 16th August 2017 07:17 AM

I'm surprised Trump hasn't fired Bannon over his fashion sense.

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Nope. Instead, we're gonna talk about how Trump's White House Chief Strategist seems to like wearing TWO DAMN BUTTON DOWN SHIRTS at the same time.

Worm 16th August 2017 07:26 AM

Damn, that guy looks halfway to dead. Seriously, he looks terrible. I hope a doctor is in his near future.

Tommy Jeppesen 16th August 2017 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Worm (Post 11959841)
Damn, that guy looks halfway to dead. Seriously, he looks terrible. I hope a doctor is in his near future.

As a human I hope he is well.

d4m10n 16th August 2017 10:50 AM

As a human with some idea of what he's doing, I don't.

Tommy Jeppesen 16th August 2017 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 11960205)
As a human with some idea of what he's doing, I don't.

He is still a human and yes, I don't agree with him, but that doesn't mean I wish him something bad.

You do get, that if the hate of right gets as massive on the left as it is on the right, the right has already won in a sense. They want hate to flourish.

dudalb 16th August 2017 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 11957970)
Why do you think Kelly would go too ?

Surely as an honourable military man he would continue to serve the President until those services are no longer required - unless you're saying that the kind of White House climate which would see McMaster quitting or sacked would also result in Kelly being sacked.

I don't think Trump will mind one bit that there is a gulf between him and the RINO GOP. It will be up to the GOP to bridge that gap because Trump will likely be far happier being allowed to Tweet as he wishes and without the burden of GOP expectation regarding getting legislation through Congress (as opposed to simply issuing executive orders).

If you think America is dead as a democracy, just say so.

d4m10n 16th August 2017 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tommy Jeppesen (Post 11960214)
He is still a human and yes, I don't agree with him, but that doesn't mean I wish him something bad.

Do you sincerely believe the world is more likely to become a better place with Bannon in the White House instead of the hospital?

dudalb 16th August 2017 11:56 AM

Does the death of his Two Business Advisory councils count?

d4m10n 16th August 2017 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 11960299)
Does the death of his Two Business Advisory councils count?

Only if they are corporations (people) my friend.

Tommy Jeppesen 16th August 2017 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 11960272)
Do you sincerely believe the world is more likely to become a better place with Bannon in the White House instead of the hospital?

That is not relevant as such, what is relevant that you wish for it and it includes a human getting worse. I thought you want a better world?!! Then why wish ill on another human? Bannon is also a human, albeit a bad one.

Darat 16th August 2017 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 11959592)
Changing my vote back to Bannon.

It looks like one of those Confederate statues may have been his final horcrux.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f9c0eb21bb.jpg

Is that a doctored photo?

Tommy Jeppesen 16th August 2017 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Darat (Post 11960362)
Is that a doctored photo?

Yes, by the Onion. :)

d4m10n 16th August 2017 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy Jeppesen (Post 11960311)
That is not relevant as such, what is relevant that you wish for it and it includes a human getting worse. I thought you want a better world?!! Then why wish ill on another human?

Because he is actively making the world worse on a daily basis. Why should we wish him good health?

Tommy Jeppesen 16th August 2017 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 11960379)
Because he is actively making the world worse on a daily basis. Why should we wish him good health?

Because we believe in humans, want a better world for all and that includes Bannon. If you cut him, he bleeds. He is a human like you and I.

d4m10n 16th August 2017 01:07 PM

If you truly want a better world for all, Tommy, you may want to reconsider whether having white nationalists in power and in good health is really helping out with your project.

fuelair 16th August 2017 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy Jeppesen (Post 11960406)
Because we believe in humans, want a better world for all and that includes Bannon. If you cut him, he bleeds. He is a human like you and I.

I believe some humans want a better world FOR ALL, but Trump, Bannon, the basket of deplorables and their ilk, the white onlies and all their relations are not among them. Would love to send them all to Mars to do their best there. For the few days or hours they would survive. That those bleed if cut (etc.) is fine, but their minds are dead and useless for any real human advancement.

Tommy Jeppesen 16th August 2017 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fuelair (Post 11960426)
I believe some humans want a better world FOR ALL, but Trump, Bannon, the basket of deplorables and their ilk, the white onlies and all their relations are not among them. Would love to send them all to Mars to do their best there. For the few days or hours they would survive. That those bleed if cut (etc.) is fine, but their minds are dead and useless for any real human advancement.

So you hate the right and wonder why they won't listen to you, right?

The Don 16th August 2017 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 11960225)
If you think America is dead as a democracy, just say so.

What makes you think that I do ?

IMO Trump would be far happier if he was allowed to Tweet to his heart's content, issue Executive Orders and be told how successful he is whilst the messy business of day to day government is done by the GOP - but Trump gets to complain when it goes wrong from his perspective.

dudalb 16th August 2017 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 11960417)
If you truly want a better world for all, Tommy, you may want to reconsider whether having white nationalists in power and in good health is really helping out with your project.

Yeah, being sympathetic and understanding toward Nazis really works well.
Turned out really good for Neville Chamberlane in 1938.

dudalb 16th August 2017 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy Jeppesen (Post 11960454)
So you hate the right and wonder why they won't listen to you, right?

If you want to sing "Kumbaya" and embrace abunch of Nazis and Klansmen in hopes of making them see the error of your ways, good luck. Me, I will depend upon a sock full of s--t a la Woody Allen in "Manhatten".

Tommy Jeppesen 16th August 2017 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 11960515)
If you want to sing "Kumbaya" and embrace abunch of Nazis and Klansmen in hopes of making them see the error of your ways, good luck. Me, I will depend upon a sock full of s--t a la Woody Allen in "Manhatten".

I am not demanding of you that I become me. I am trying to understand you and see where there are overlaps and differences.

So the Neo-Nazis, the KKK and so on are nothing different like Hitler and WWII. Okay.

Cl1mh4224rd 16th August 2017 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Darat (Post 11960362)
Is that a doctored photo?

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Originally Posted by Tommy Jeppesen (Post 11960366)
Yes, by the Onion. :)


It is the first (and only other) place I've seen it: Nervous Steve Bannon Binge-Eats Entire Class Of Interns Amid Calls For Removal.

fuelair 16th August 2017 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy Jeppesen (Post 11960454)
So you hate the right and wonder why they won't listen to you, right?

Why do you think I care if they listen? I have no interest in what they think their problems are and none in their upkeep/existence.

quadraginta 16th August 2017 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy Jeppesen (Post 11960454)
So you hate the right and wonder why they won't listen to you, right?


Do you think they'd listen if they weren't hated?

Do you really think that matters to them?

PhantomWolf 16th August 2017 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 11956970)
It's not safe for my brain! There's a picture of Trump in it! Shame on you linking to such terrible material!

At least he wasn't naked. :p

The Don 17th August 2017 12:09 AM

Apparently Steve Bannon has dubbed white nationalists clowns

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The chief White House strategist Steve Bannon has attacked white nationalists as "clowns" as the fallout from violent protests in Charlottesville continues.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40958329

It's not clear to me whether he is calling all white nationalists clowns or whether he's just criticising the bunch in Charlottesville for being incompetent white nationalists...

TheSupermeerkat 17th August 2017 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 11961101)
Apparently Steve Bannon has dubbed white nationalists clowns

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40958329

It's not clear to me whether he is calling all white nationalists clowns or whether he's just criticising the bunch in Charlottesville for being incompetent white nationalists...



The latter I'm sure, as giving these people the benefit of the doubt just doesn't work.

Trebuchet 17th August 2017 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 11961101)
Apparently Steve Bannon has dubbed white nationalists clowns



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40958329

It's not clear to me whether he is calling all white nationalists clowns or whether he's just criticising the bunch in Charlottesville for being incompetent white nationalists...

In the same interview he didn't know he was giving, he correctly says there's no military solution to North Korea.

Beelzebuddy 17th August 2017 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 11961704)
In the same interview he didn't know he was giving, he correctly says there's no military solution to North Korea.

The whole interview is full of gems where he claims to discover what everyone else has been saying for decades.

The Don 17th August 2017 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy (Post 11961710)
The whole interview is full of gems where he claims to discover what everyone else has been saying for decades.

So like Trump discovering Lincoln was a Republican or applying the phrase "priming the pump" to economics for the first time :rolleyes:

dudalb 17th August 2017 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Don (Post 11961101)
Apparently Steve Bannon has dubbed white nationalists clowns



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40958329

It's not clear to me whether he is calling all white nationalists clowns or whether he's just criticising the bunch in Charlottesville for being incompetent white nationalists...

More a case of Bannon's Covering His Ass since his opponents in the GOP are making him the fall guy for Trump's horrendous handling of Charlottesville. Classic Bureaucratic move.
Or maybe Bannon has decided that his support of Overt White Nationalism has become counter productive, and now he is trying to discard them as having served their purpose.

dudalb 17th August 2017 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSupermeerkat (Post 11961109)
The latter I'm sure, as giving these people the benefit of the doubt just doesn't work.

Or maybe he just saw the White nationalist as a useful political tool, but now they have become a drag on his agenda, and time to throw them to the Wolves.

d4m10n 17th August 2017 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cl1mh4224rd (Post 11960592)
It is the first (and only other) place I've seen it: Nervous Steve Bannon Binge-Eats Entire Class Of Interns Amid Calls For Removal.

Sorry for creating the impression that photo may have been real. Bad skeptic.

In related news, my chips are still on Bannon: https://news.vice.com/story/steve-ba...=vicenewsfbads

Oystein 17th August 2017 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 11962033)
In related news, my chips are still on Bannon: https://news.vice.com/story/steve-ba...=vicenewsfbads

I was hoping for a scaramucci, but this ain't one. The Mooch blundered big time: He was caught by rude emotions while not understanding the rules of talking with the press.
Bannon called with a clear agenda, apparently calmly and prepared, with a message he wanted to get out.

I'd call it a gamble: He is there actually spelling out a long-term strategy - and that is his job!
His base ideology - economic nationalism - may be de-facto a bad idea (measure by "will it actually further its stated objectives"), but it is not vile. the Nation is a real thing, and it is generally regarded and often cherished as something positive. The US nation is different from other nations in terms of constitution, history and of course economy, and that is a good thing; and it is, a priori, perfectly legitimate to think about ways to make differences work in one's own favour. Assuming that Bannon honestly believes trade wars benefit the national economy, then he is rational and well-meaning. Calling opposition press and explaining one's strategy is a thing I wish governments would do frequently and openly.

I think Bannon is gambling. Taking a risk. And hoping that Trump will reward the risk taker over the career politicians.

He has nicely positioned himself against Kelly even, without mentioning Kelly at all.

My money on next one out remains on Kelly.

Darth Rotor 17th August 2017 06:43 PM

Mattis will be the last man standing, some years from now, when all the rest have gone. I think Kelly will be around for a bit, as I don't think he'll want to leave a job half done.

The sooner Bannon is gone, the better.

seayakin 18th August 2017 09:55 AM

Bannon is gone. New York Times

quadraginta 18th August 2017 09:56 AM

Bannon Out!

Winners please collect your money at the cashier's window.

NoahFence 18th August 2017 09:57 AM

Up next....

Donald J Trump himself.

Oystein 18th August 2017 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Oystein (Post 11962185)
...
My money on next one out remains on Kelly.

Dayum!!

Gorka next? (Does Gorka have a position in the WH? Other than barking rabid dog?)


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