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JoeMorgue 2nd June 2021 12:54 PM

Person: "I was taken out of context."
Society: "Are you going to clarify the context that you meant it in and that it wasn't horrible?"
Person: "LOL No."

smartcooky 2nd June 2021 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruto (Post 13497379)
"That's not me" seems like the latest non apology pretense for people who want to get away with bigotry and not pay for it.. No, miz hathat, that is exactly you. I hope nobody buys her lame excuses or her hats.

Indeed yes.

If that's not you Gigi, you wouldn't have done this in the first place!

gnome 2nd June 2021 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13497646)
I'm surprised she hasn't included the honored GOP excuse of "It was taken out of context".

These aren't attempts at a genuine defense--they're just incantations that allow their supporters to keep supporting them. Their marks will invent whatever justification is needed to satisfy themselves.

Andy_Ross 5th June 2021 03:39 AM

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene tweeted

@RepMTG
Today, I sent this letter to Joe Biden to demand an immediate investigation into Anthony Fauci’s lies and his potential involvement in the cover up of the origins of the China virus.

The American people deserve answers on the Wuhan lab & Fauci deserves to be held accountable!

(Text of letter in link)

https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1400916114620702729

She wants an answer by June 31st!

newyorkguy 5th June 2021 03:58 AM

In addition to Marj wanting an answer "by June 31st," she also wrote, "According to the Center for Disease Control, as of June 3rd...593,000 people have died..." We actually passed 593,000 on May 4th. Below is Resume's post in the coronavirus thread from May 5th.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Resume (Post 13472460)
From Worldometer:

United States
Coronavirus Cases:
33,321,244
Deaths:
593,148

New Cases:
46,129
New Deaths:
743

As of June 3rd the death total was actually over 611,000. :(

Belz... 5th June 2021 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13499699)
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene tweeted

@RepMTG
Today, I sent this letter to Joe Biden to demand an immediate investigation into Anthony Fauciís lies and his potential involvement in the cover up of the origins of the China virus.

The American people deserve answers on the Wuhan lab & Fauci deserves to be held accountable!

(Text of letter in link)

https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1400916114620702729

She wants an answer by June 31st!

"Dear Ms. Greene. Start by using the actual name of this disease, and I'll consider reading the rest of your letter. Thanks."

slyjoe 5th June 2021 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13499699)
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene tweeted

@RepMTG
Today, I sent this letter to Joe Biden to demand an immediate investigation into Anthony Fauciís lies and his potential involvement in the cover up of the origins of the China virus.

The American people deserve answers on the Wuhan lab & Fauci deserves to be held accountable!

(Text of letter in link)

https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1400916114620702729

She wants an answer by June 31st!

Fine. We can start with Trump's dismantling of the infectious disease docs in place in China. Among other things.

Stacyhs 5th June 2021 11:36 AM

FactCheck.org has found that "Conservative pundits and viral social media posts have now mischaracterized some of those emails in an effort to discredit Fauci." For a more detailed explanation of what actually happened, read the entire Fact Check article provided.


Quote:

The Washington Post and BuzzFeed News each filed Freedom of Information Act requests for Dr. Anthony Fauci’s emails and published that correspondence on June 1, showing how the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases navigated the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic.

The batch of emails requested by the Post were from March and April 2020, while BuzzFeed News’ spanned January to June 2020. BuzzFeed News also posted all of the 3,234 pages of the emails it got on a separate site.

Conservative pundits and viral social media posts have now mischaracterized some of those emails in an effort to discredit Fauci. We’ll look at three issues: what Fauci was told about the origins of the coronavirus, what he knew about the drug hydroxychloroquine and what he said about the use of face masks.
Quote:

The posts and commentary point to the Jan. 31, 2020, email as proof that “Fauci knew the virus was likely engineered,” as one Facebook post puts it, or that something suspicious happened regarding an analysis published by Andersen and other scientists weeks later, concluding that “SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus.”
Quote:

But Andersen said the email shows “a clear example of the scientific process.” In his June 1 tweet, Andersen said, “As I have said many times, we seriously considered a lab leak a possibility. However, significant new data, extensive analyses, and many discussions led to the conclusions in our paper.”
Quote:

Fox News host Laura Ingraham highlighted the Jan. 31 email on her June 2 show >snip< ...

Ingraham then says: “Now, mysteriously, Andersen’s article debunking the lab leak theory and also signed by the other colleagues of course was a 180-degree turn from what he told Fauci in January,” saying that Fauci “influenced it.”

But Andersen said there was nothing mysterious about the change of his earlier opinion, nor was it a “massive cover-up” as one Australian journalist alleged on Twitter. “It’s just science. Boring, I know, but it’s quite a helpful thing to have in times of uncertainty,” Andersen said.

Quote:

“This is a textbook example of the scientific method where a preliminary hypothesis is rejected in favor of a competing hypothesis as more data become available and analyses are completed,” he (Andersen) said.

As we’ve written recently, while scientists have found SARS-CoV-2 is similar to bat coronaviruses, the exact origins of SARS-CoV-2 remain unknown. The zoonotic transfer theory, which Fauci says he believes is “most likely,” hasn’t been proven, nor have theories of a lab accident.

But there have been many calls for more investigation, including by Fauci himself.

TheSupermeerkat 5th June 2021 12:50 PM

19 more MTGs on the way?

https://www.mic.com/p/there-are-alre...-2022-81091989

RecoveringYuppy 5th June 2021 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSupermeerkat (Post 13500005)
19 more MTGs on the way?

One of them is MTG herself and another is already in Congress, so it's actually just 17 more, but yeah.

Trebuchet 5th June 2021 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellbound (Post 13497428)
To quote an old punchline: ďbut you have sex with ONE goat...Ē

:D


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Look up Popehat's Rule of Goats.

Norman Alexander 6th June 2021 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13499699)
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene tweeted

@RepMTG
Today, I sent this letter to Joe Biden to demand an immediate investigation into Anthony Fauciís lies and his potential involvement in the cover up of the origins of the China virus.

The American people deserve answers on the Wuhan lab & Fauci deserves to be held accountable!

(Text of letter in link)

https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1400916114620702729

She wants an answer by June 31st!

Promise her an answer on 31 June.

Norman Alexander 6th June 2021 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSupermeerkat (Post 13500005)

Candidates. Hopefully zero elected.

quadraginta 6th June 2021 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13500323)
Candidates. Hopefully zero elected.


Yes.

But Trump is busily stumping for that sort of candidate, one GOP get-together after another. (E.G., an hour and a half speech just yesterday at the North Carolina Repugnican Party State Convention.)

And that's the important part. MTG didn't win just because she is a wacko nutcase. She is a wacko nutcase who got the Repugnican Party's backing. At which point she was a shoo-in in a district which was much more than comfortably red.

Trump remains the Pied Piper to the leadership of the GOP. As long as that remains true then this sort of candidate will always have a chance of winning.

A good chance, sadly.

Norman Alexander 6th June 2021 07:35 PM

True. But when even Corey Lewandowsky is telling the Mango Moron that he did NOT win the last election, and will NOT be reinstated come August, the remaining candidates the Donster Monster is stumping for are being whittled down to a bunch of flat-out cross-eyed toothless loons and morons, barely better than farm animals, who make even MTG look half sane and reasonable. At some point, even the current GOP will say "We want to actually win, not get our people out of the County looney bins, Don. We'll take it from here..."

quadraginta 6th June 2021 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13500851)
True. But when even Corey Lewandowsky is telling the Mango Moron that he did NOT win the last election, and will NOT be reinstated come August, the remaining candidates the Donster Monster is stumping for are being whittled down to a bunch of flat-out cross-eyed toothless loons and morons, barely better than farm animals, who make even MTG look half sane and reasonable. At some point, even the current GOP will say "We want to actually win, not get our people out of the County looney bins, Don. We'll take it from here..."


How many votes can Corey Lewandowsky bring to the polls?

A significant percentage of the electorate are Trump devotees first and Party faithful afterward. And that percentage also constitutes a very large chunk of the GOP base.

Going against Trump requires both personal integrity and a spine on the part of any GOP hopeful.

Would you like to discuss how prevalent those qualities are within the leadership of the Repugnican Party? Or how much they are welcomed and respected by them?

mgidm86 6th June 2021 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRC_Hans (Post 13497524)
That is, IMHO, uniquely the weirdest concept in Christianity. Far outstrips miracles and human parthenogenesis.

Hans


The forgiveness concept lowers the bar so that more people will join the church and put cash in the collection plate. What a great club where you can screw up as bad as you want and still be considered a great person!

It's like a diet where you can eat all you want and still lose weight. Total scam.

Norman Alexander 6th June 2021 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quadraginta (Post 13500860)
How many votes can Corey Lewandowsky bring to the polls?

A significant percentage of the electorate are Trump devotees first and Party faithful afterward. And that percentage also constitutes a very large chunk of the GOP base.

Going against Trump requires both personal integrity and a spine on the part of any GOP hopeful.

Would you like to discuss how prevalent those qualities are within the leadership of the Repugnican Party? Or how much they are welcomed and respected by them?

I understand fully. And yet the T**** era is starting to fade into the rear-view mirror if Lewandowsky is openly disagreeing with him.

It appears the GOP as a party is shrinking, leaving moderates out more and more because they don't kowtow to the Divine One's imperial words any more. Even Mike Pence, his own veep and right-wing wimp, is distancing himself.

That leaves a just core of hard-case reeking stupid with T**** as the kernel, and there are pockets of geography where these people are known to congregate. At this time this core of nutters is sizeable, but even so the level of actual T****'s personal support has already shrunk from the 2020 levels and especially after 6-Jan. Witness his failed blog website - clearly his hard-core supporters were not flocking to his word there.

Those who have moved away may well be seeking other far-right gurus, and some GOP candidates are positioning themselves as the T****-alternatives. MTG is one of these - I'm sure she has enough chutzpah to want to take over that crown. Although she clearly hasn't the brains.

quadraginta 6th June 2021 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13500873)
<snip>

Those who have moved away may well be seeking other far-right gurus, and some GOP candidates are positioning themselves as the T****-alternatives. MTG is one of these - I'm sure she has enough chutzpah to want to take over that crown. Although she clearly hasn't the brains.


Judging by the last administration, there doesn't seem to be any actual evidence that this is a necessary prerequisite.

Norman Alexander 6th June 2021 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quadraginta (Post 13500877)
Judging by the last administration, there doesn't seem to be any actual evidence that this is a necessary prerequisite.

Yeah, good point.

*SIGH*

Armitage72 14th June 2021 08:19 AM

Greene says that SARS-CoV-2 must be a bioweapon because God wouldn't create it and she doesn't believe in evolution.


Quote:

Greene made the remarks during an interview on Steve Bannonís podcast in which they discussed COVID-19 origin theories. Bannon asked her if she believed in gain of function research, in which scientists deliberately enhance pathogens in a lab to study them and prepare for future pandemics. She responded:

"No, I donít buy it because I donít believe in evolution. I donít believe in that type of so-called ďscienceĒ [uses air quotes]. I donít believe in evolution, I believe in God and these viruses were not making people sick until they created them and [Ö] weaponize these viruses to be able to attach to our cells and make us sick. This has caused so many people to die all over the world. This is a bio-weapon."

JoeMorgue 14th June 2021 08:38 AM

*Shrugs* Most of Congress probably doesn't believe in Evolution, just by playing the statistics. She's not worst for saying it out loud.

Resume 14th June 2021 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armitage72 (Post 13508034)
Greene says that SARS-CoV-2 must be a bioweapon because God wouldn't create it and she doesn't believe in evolution.

So how does she explain the Spanish flu, smallpox, etc.?

grunion 14th June 2021 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Resume (Post 13508055)
So how does she explain the Spanish flu, smallpox, etc.?

Or the ten plagues?

Stacyhs 14th June 2021 10:01 AM

I wonder how all those viruses like smallpox and flu and that killed people before the 20th century were created by humans? Those scientists in the Middle Ages had far more sophisticated labs than we knew!

Does she also think God didn't invent bacteria or just viruses?

MTG doesn't think "God would do that" but I'd bet you she thinks God created the HIV virus to punish all those 'sinning, pervert homos'.

MTG is really working hard for the title of "Most Stupid Person in Congress" title. Gohmert had better watch out as she's coming up fast.

JoeMorgue 14th June 2021 10:05 AM

Yeah we've literally put more actual thought into it in the last 4 posts than she has her entire life.

God works in mysterious ways, what more do you need?

Trebuchet 14th June 2021 10:08 AM

HIV, of course, is easy. It's God's punishment for gay people. And heterosexuals in Africa.

gnome 14th June 2021 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armitage72 (Post 13508034)
Greene says that SARS-CoV-2 must be a bioweapon because God wouldn't create it and she doesn't believe in evolution.

Accuracy requires that attributing the bolded part to her is a stretch beyond her words, even if one suspects she believes it.

Armitage72 14th June 2021 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnome (Post 13508203)
Accuracy requires that attributing the bolded part to her is a stretch beyond her words, even if one suspects she believes it.


Yes, that was my translation of "I believe in God and these viruses were not making people sick until they created them".

Andy_Ross 14th June 2021 04:19 PM

Imagine having to host a press conference to announce you just learned the Holocaust was very bad

Craig4 14th June 2021 04:44 PM

Wow, MTG just showed a near human self-awareness.

shemp 14th June 2021 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 13508568)
Wow, MTG just showed a near human self-awareness.

She is not self-aware, she is a P-Zombie.

Norman Alexander 14th June 2021 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Resume (Post 13508055)
So how does she explain the Spanish flu, smallpox, etc.?

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunion (Post 13508100)
Or the ten plagues?

The bubonic plague was around long before Wuhan labs was built. LONG before. So I guess that God gave rats and fleas microbiological warfare technologies??

Stacyhs 14th June 2021 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13508637)
The bubonic plague was around long before Wuhan labs was built. LONG before. So I guess that God gave rats and fleas microbiological warfare technologies??

If you brought that up to MTG, she'd claim that she was talking about viruses only and that the plague is caused by a bacteria (after someone with some intelligence explains to her the difference between a virus and bacteria).

Norman Alexander 14th June 2021 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13508679)
If you brought that up to MTG, she'd claim that she was talking about viruses only and that the plague is caused by a bacteria (after someone with some intelligence explains to her the difference between a virus and bacteria).

So... Smallpox? Syphilis? Other diseases of ancient lineage?

She is a walking pit of ignorance.

Stacyhs 14th June 2021 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13508722)
So... Smallpox? Syphilis? Other diseases of ancient lineage?

She is a walking pit of ignorance.

Of course she is. She's an idiot. I'm certainly not arguing that she isn't. But nitpicking: syphilis is also not a virus but caused by bacteria.

Norman Alexander 14th June 2021 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13508784)
Of course she is. She's an idiot. I'm certainly not arguing that she isn't. But nitpicking: syphilis is also not a virus but caused by bacteria.

To her, it is a "Chinese virus" even if it is an actual virus, bacteria, or tapeworms.

Stacyhs 14th June 2021 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13508788)
To her, it is a "Chinese virus" even if it is an actual virus, bacteria, or tapeworms.

She probably thinks Sweet and Sour Chicken is a bioweapon.

The Great Zaganza 15th June 2021 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13508807)
She probably thinks Sweet and Sour Chicken is a bioweapon.

if it is, I don't wan't to know.

Stacyhs 15th June 2021 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13508843)
if it is, I don't wan't to know.

Everyone knows Sweet and Sour Chicken isn't, but burritos are definitely bioweapons. :D


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