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Darat 17th September 2020 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13226028)
And yet, because he didn't actually soil himself on live TV, the consensus was that he performed far better than expected. With expectations set that low, it's easy to see how he can exceed them.



In any case, even though there was a general agreement (though by no means a consensus) that Hillary beat him in the debates, it didn't seem to affect his support at all.



Why bother to prepare in depth for debates when you intend to ignore inconvenient questions and instead parrot your favourite catch phrases throughout ?

I think it would be rather funny if Biden came out with a book, perhaps Mary Trump's and started reading it when Trump bathers on.

The Don 17th September 2020 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13226056)
I think it would be rather funny if Biden came out with a book, perhaps Mary Trump's and started reading it when Trump bathers on.

Funny, but a very, very, bad idea IMO.

With much pearl-clutching, FOXNews and Sinclair media would claim that this was disrespectful. The other media outlets would feel obliged to report on this. The overwhelming majority of Americans would have the impression that Joe Biden had been unacceptably disrespectful to President Trump.


edited to add...

If President Trump doesn't **** himself, the media will be full of reports of how well he performed and how Presidential he seemed.

Any tiny flub or stumble from Biden no matter how minor will be seized on by the media. :rolleyes:

Captain_Swoop 17th September 2020 02:49 AM

Trump Tweets

Don’t worry, wonderful & beautiful Alaska, there will be NO POLITICS in the Pebble Mine Review Process. I will do what is right for Alaska and our great Country!!!

Mojo 17th September 2020 03:19 AM

Trump is projecting again: Trump claims CDC director is 'confused' over 2021 vaccine timetable.

Ladewig 17th September 2020 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13226028)
And

In any case, even though there was a general agreement (though by no means a consensus) that Hillary beat him in the debates, it didn't seem to affect his support at all.

Yes.
One group was judging the debate on ability to succinctly and comprehensively describe a plan to reach a specific goal while simultaneousLy noting how one might deal with possible hazards that the plan may encounter.

One group was judging the debate on the ability to put that bitch in her place while simultaneously describing vague goals without all that boring stuff like statistics or possible shortfalls of various plans.

Plus, they had Mr. Chucklehead himself saying that ďmany academics and business owners called me to say how good my answers were. These are common-sense solutions to simple straight-forward problems.Ē

Armitage72 17th September 2020 05:18 AM

When tear gas and rubber bullets aren't enough.

Microwave and acoustic weapons were requested for use against the DC demonstrators, but weren't available.

7,000 rounds of live ammo were also transferred, so I guess it could have been worse.

Quote:

Federal officials looked into getting a heat ray that makes targets' skin feel like it's burning and amassed thousands of rounds of ammunition in preparation for clearing a peaceful protest in Lafayette Square in June, according to written House testimony from an Army National Guard major who was at the scene.
...
[Major] DeMarco wrote that the Defense Department's head military police officer for the National Capitol Region emailed him and others on the day of the protests asking if the DC National Guard had "a Long Range Acoustic Device," which can blast walls of sound at protesters, or "the Active Denial Systems," which feature "a directed energy beam that provides sensation of intense heat on the surface of the skin."
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He also referenced a weapons transfer to the DC National Guard the afternoon of the protest that he later learned contained "approximately 7,000 rounds of ammunition."

Craig4 17th September 2020 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRealnz (Post 13224057)
To add

Regardless you have to admit that the Arab nations recognizing Israeli sovereignty is a big deal. Israelis can finally travel to foreign Arab nations and vice versa. If you don't think that's a good thing and a step in the right direction then I don't know what to say. A lot of our political maneuvering in the middle east is for profit, but also as a deterrent to keep Israel from getting gang banged by all the Arab nations

It's not a big deal yet. It will be a big deal if it sticks. UAE has already said the deal is contingent upon a cessation of West Bank annexations and Israel has only committed to a pause. If annexations resume, it all falls apart. I imagine Bahrain will have similar issues.

Steve 17th September 2020 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Armitage72 (Post 13226198)
When tear gas and rubber bullets aren't enough.

Microwave and acoustic weapons were requested for use against the DC demonstrators, but weren't available.

7,000 rounds of live ammo were also transferred, so I guess it could have been worse.

The ingenuity of the Feds when it comes to methods of torturing and harming their own citizens is remarkable.

Wonder when they will bring these out of storage:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...1&d=1600346042

Ladewig 17th September 2020 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mojo (Post 13226078)

How grotesquely deformed does oneís ego have to be to say, ďmy understanding of this medical subject differs from that of an acclaimed physician and university professor who is well-respected by his peers. Should I talk to my staff about why our opinions differ? Nope, Iíll just go on TV and say he was confused - because, you know, genius and stuff.Ē

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Another entry in the fun-but-a-bad-debate-idea category would be for Biden to start his responses by holding up a piece of paper and making a mark on it before saying, ďSorry for that short interruption, Iím playing malignant narcissist bingo. If, in his next response, the president demonstrates he has no empathy for other peopleís emotions, Ill have five boxes in a row.Ē Wait until President Chucklehead is answering a COVID question and interrupt him by yelling Bingo.

JoeMorgue 17th September 2020 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladewig (Post 13226240)
How grotesquely deformed does oneís ego have to be to say, ďmy understanding of this medical subject differs from that of an acclaimed physician and university professor who is well-respected by his peers. Should I talk to my staff about why our opinions differ? Nope, Iíll just go on TV and say he was confused - because, you know, genius and stuff.Ē

It's not that surprising. Trump is just a specifically bad tumor on a growing cancer of anti-intellectualism (and hell even broader "anti-having any form of standards at all" nihilism) that's been spreading hard for a while now.

Captain_Swoop 17th September 2020 05:58 AM

It’s amazing that just today the president said that covid deaths in states that didn’t vote for him don’t really count, he wanted to use a heat ray on protesters, and the lunatic attorney general wanted to arrest the mayor of Seattle and undecided voters still exist.

Captain_Swoop 17th September 2020 06:00 AM

Trump Tweets

Twitter makes sure that Trending on Twitter is anything bad, Fake or not, about President Donald Trump. So obvious what they are doing. Being studied now!

Democrats only want BAILOUT MONEY for Blue States that are doing badly. They donít care about the people, never did!

I am SUBSTANTIALLY LOWERING MEDICARE PREMIUMS. Have instituted Favored Nations Clause and Rebates on Drug Companies. Never been done before. Drug companies are hitting me with Fake Ads, just like sleepy Joe. Be careful! Drug prices will be reduced massively, and soon.

Captain_Swoop 17th September 2020 06:05 AM

Amy Dorris has come forward with a new sexual assault allegation against Donald Trump

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Amy Dorris alleges Trump forced his tongue down her throat and groped her at 1997 US Open

‘It felt like tentacles’


A former model has come forward to accuse Donald Trump of sexually assaulting her at the US Open tennis tournament more than two decades ago, in an alleged incident that left her feeling “sick” and “violated”.

In an exclusive interview with the Guardian, Amy Dorris alleged that Trump accosted her outside the bathroom in his VIP box at the tournament in New York on 5 September 1997.

Dorris, who was 24 at the time, accuses Trump of forcing his tongue down her throat, assaulting her all over her body and holding her in a grip she was unable to escape from.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...del-amy-dorris

Aridas 17th September 2020 06:15 AM

And more on the Barr front.

Bill Barr wanted to arrest a city’s mayor for trying to keep police and protesters apart

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While Attorney General Bill Barr was outed for trying to charge protesters with sedition, it appears he also wanted to indict Seattle’s mayor.

The New York Times reported Wednesday that Barr was livid that Mayor Jenny Durkan created “protest zones,” to keep protesters isolated in a specific area and away from police. The zone stopped police and protesters from clashing, which had been a problem in other cities where police moved in on protesters and where protesters would throw water bottles and other items at police.

“The directives are in keeping with Mr. Barr’s approach to prosecute crimes as aggressively as possible in cities where protests have given way to violence,” said the Times. “But in suggesting possible prosecution of Ms. Durkan, a Democrat, Mr. Barr also took aim at an elected official whom President Trump has repeatedly attacked.”
Yeah... all the more reason to believe that they were actively TRYING to stir up more violence.

Segnosaur 17th September 2020 06:24 AM

Another sexual assault allegation against stubby Mcbonespurs... This one from a former model Any Dorris who claims trump attacked her back in the 90s.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...-1997-n1240291

While I think there is a good chance the allegation is true (subject to investigation), the timing makes it look... Suspicious. (Wasn't reported to police at the time, nor were the allegations made back in 2016 when other women were coming forward. Even if she had valid reasons for staying silent at the time, it does bring up questions of being just a political stunt.)

ETA: oops. Ninjaed on this.

The Don 17th September 2020 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13226249)
Trump Tweets

Twitter makes sure that Trending on Twitter is anything bad, Fake or not, about President Donald Trump. So obvious what they are doing. Being studied now!

Democrats only want BAILOUT MONEY for Blue States that are doing badly. They donít care about the people, never did!

I am SUBSTANTIALLY LOWERING MEDICARE PREMIUMS. Have instituted Favored Nations Clause and Rebates on Drug Companies. Never been done before. Drug companies are hitting me with Fake Ads, just like sleepy Joe. Be careful! Drug prices will be reduced massively, and soon.

In two weeks ? ;)

The Don 17th September 2020 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13226245)
Itís amazing that just today the president said that covid deaths in states that didnít vote for him donít really count, he wanted to use a heat ray on protesters, and the lunatic attorney general wanted to arrest the mayor of Seattle and undecided voters still exist.

It's even more amazing to me that those actions actually make it more likely that 40%-45% of people will vote for him.

Darat 17th September 2020 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13226339)
In two weeks ? ;)

Unless President Biden blocks Trump's attempts yet again.

Resume 17th September 2020 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13226062)
Trump Tweets

Donít worry, wonderful & beautiful Alaska, there will be NO POLITICS in the Pebble Mine Review Process. I will do what is right for Alaska and our great Country!!!

When the Alaska governor was sucking off up to Trump over the Pebble Mine, Trump was all for it[ Now, not so much.
Quote:

In reversal, Trump kills huge Alaskan gold mine. Hereís why . . .
Even when Trump does the right thing, it feels wrong.

Armitage72 17th September 2020 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13226245)
Itís amazing that just today the president said that covid deaths in states that didnít vote for him donít really count, he wanted to use a heat ray on protesters, and the lunatic attorney general wanted to arrest the mayor of Seattle and undecided voters still exist.


Don't forget Barr saying that if Trump wins, protestors should be charged with attempting to overthrow the government.

Craig4 17th September 2020 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13226245)
Itís amazing that just today the president said that covid deaths in states that didnít vote for him donít really count, he wanted to use a heat ray on protesters, and the lunatic attorney general wanted to arrest the mayor of Seattle and undecided voters still exist.

Was he going to drive the protestors into the Potomac River that he had stocked with sharks with freakin laser beams?

Craig4 17th September 2020 09:37 AM

I've put he Cohen book aside so I can read "Rage" by Bob Woodward. The opening pages are a bit of an eye-opener. For all the talk about the China virus and China's lack of transparency, what hasn't been reported is what the deputy National Security Advisor told the president in the famous January briefing. The deputy National Security Advisor,Matt Pottinger is fluent in Mandarin and lived in China as a reporter for the Wall Street Journal during the SARS outbreak. The lack of Chinese openness never mattered at all. He had spoken to a number Chinese medical professionals, academics and government officials who told him, "think 1918 flu". Even if the Chinese weren't transparent with WHO and the CDC, it appears as though they were completely transparent with the president's deputy national security advisor.

Craig4 17th September 2020 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Aridas (Post 13226265)
And more on the Barr front.

Bill Barr wanted to arrest a city’s mayor for trying to keep police and protesters apart



Yeah... all the more reason to believe that they were actively TRYING to stir up more violence.

I can only assume and I'm not clear on why that Barr intended this to come out. Barr must know that nearly everyone in DOJ hates him and that such conversations would become public. Is the point maybe to throw red meat to Trump's base? Even he, as incompetent and disloyal as he is must know that a grand jury empaneled in Seattle would never indict their mayor.

Bob001 17th September 2020 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Segnosaur (Post 13226275)
.....
While I think there is a good chance the allegation is true (subject to investigation), the timing makes it look... Suspicious. (Wasn't reported to police at the time, nor were the allegations made back in 2016 when other women were coming forward. Even if she had valid reasons for staying silent at the time, it does bring up questions of being just a political stunt.)
....


From the link:
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Her account was also corroborated by several people she confided in about the incident. They include a friend in New York and Dorrisís mother, both of whom she called immediately after the alleged incident, as well as a therapist and friends she spoke to in the years since. All said Dorris had shared with them details of the alleged incident that matched what she later told the Guardian.
If she told other people about it at the time, that counts for a lot. Considering what has happened to other women who made similar accusations publicly, it's not surprising that she kept quiet for so long. And considering how Trump has behaved all his life, it wouldn't surprise me if there are hundreds of women with similar stories who chalked it up as just another bad experience with jerk.

JoeMorgue 17th September 2020 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 13226555)
I can only assume and I'm not clear on why that Barr intended this to come out. Barr must know that nearly everyone in DOJ hates him and that such conversations would become public. Is the point maybe to throw red meat to Trump's base? Even he, as incompetent and disloyal as he is must know that a grand jury empaneled in Seattle would never indict their mayor.

A not 100% sure his message was intended for a hypothetical grand jury empaneled in Seattle.

The "red meat" theory makes more sense. He's chumming the water.

Bob001 17th September 2020 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 13226521)
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Even if the Chinese weren't transparent with WHO and the CDC, it appears as though they were completely transparent with the president's deputy national security advisor.

"The Chinese" covers a lot of ground. A veteran reporter would develop sources outside the government bureaucracy, just as they do in the U.S. Keep in mind that the Chinese arrested a doctor who tried to warn his colleagues about this weird new disease, and who subsequently died of it himself. Trump preferred to believe his BFF Xi Jinping over his own intelligence officials.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...r-dissent.html

Captain_Swoop 17th September 2020 11:21 AM

Trump Tweets

I am lowering, not raising, Medicare Premiums!

Horatius 17th September 2020 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13226690)
Trump Tweets

I am lowering, not raising, Medicare Premiums!



So, what's the over/under on when medicare premiums will skyrocket?

Silly me, of course it's "Two Weeks".

Craig4 17th September 2020 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob001 (Post 13226608)
"The Chinese" covers a lot of ground. A veteran reporter would develop sources outside the government bureaucracy, just as they do in the U.S. Keep in mind that the Chinese arrested a doctor who tried to warn his colleagues about this weird new disease, and who subsequently died of it himself. Trump preferred to believe his BFF Xi Jinping over his own intelligence officials.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...r-dissent.html

In the book Pottinger describes who he talked to. He doesn't mention names but what they told him made anything the Chinese government was trying to silence the doctor from saying, trivial.

When I say Chinese, I mean the government of the PRC not Chinese people generally. I apologize if that was not clear.

Trebuchet 17th September 2020 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Segnosaur (Post 13225288)
But Trump put so much effort into preparing for the debates!

From: NBC
President Donald Trump has not held a single mock debate session, and has no plans to stage a formal practice round, as he readies for his first faceoff with Joe Biden in less than three weeks, according to multiple people familiar with the discussions.

Oh, never mind.

He doesn't need to; he's not going to show up. His excuses will be that Biden is on drugs, or he's too busy, or the moderators are fake news, or have blood coming out their wherever.

Mojo 17th September 2020 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Roger Ramjets (Post 13221394)
This tells me that Trump is using 'performance enhancing' drugs.


Trumpís performance tells they ainít working.

The Don 17th September 2020 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 13226872)
He doesn't need to; he's not going to show up. His excuses will be that Biden is on drugs, or he's too busy, or the moderators are fake news, or have blood coming out their wherever.

I disagree, IMO he will show up because he believes he can win any debate and because of ratings. He's not doing any preparation because his performance doesn't depend on anything Joe Biden says or does.

Mojo 17th September 2020 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13226895)
I disagree, IMO he will show up because he believes he can win any debate and because of ratings. He's not doing any preparation because his performance doesn't depend on anything Joe Biden says or does.


Heíll show up because his ego requires it.

Stacyhs 17th September 2020 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojo (Post 13226904)
Heíll show up because his ego requires it.

I agree. His narcissism tells him he'll be able to out debate Biden because he's the greatest debater of all time. He'll debate like never seen before.

Captain_Swoop 17th September 2020 02:41 PM

Trump Tweets

The Democrats are just ANGRY that the vaccine and delivery are so far ahead of schedule. They hate what they are seeing. Saving lives should make them happy, not sad!

Mojo 17th September 2020 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13226916)
I agree. His narcissism tells him he'll be able to out debate Biden because he's the greatest debater of all time. He'll debate like never seen before.


The greatest something-debater of all time, Iím sure.

Captain_Swoop 17th September 2020 02:53 PM

The White House Tweets
@WhiteHouse
US government account

President @realDonaldTrump announced that he will sign an Executive Order establishing a commission to promote patriotic education: The 1776 Commission!

Captain_Swoop 17th September 2020 02:56 PM

Trump Retweeted

The White House
@WhiteHouse
US government account
Today, we are seeing the results of decades of left-wing indoctrination in our schools.

No American student should be made to feel ashamed of their history or identity.

Captain_Swoop 17th September 2020 02:57 PM

Trump Retweeted

Dan Scavino
@DanScavino
“The police dept, based on their observation in person, and on the highway cameras, combined with the formulas of roadway occupancy, have estimated 16-20 thousand vehicles for the TRUMP PARADE CINCINNATI OHIO.” #MAGAFlag of United StatesEagle
“Trump Parade Cincinnati Ohio”
https://facebook.com/222144039182621...GLp0I5LTDB&d=n

Stacyhs 17th September 2020 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13226948)
The White House Tweets
@WhiteHouse
US government account

President @realDonaldTrump announced that he will sign an Executive Order establishing a commission to promote patriotic education: The 1776 Commission!

Ah, yes. The Great Trump Patriotic Youth Education Movement.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...3dd3856a04.jpg


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