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Captain_Swoop 20th September 2020 03:28 AM

At the latest rally, Trump suggest that Biden will receive an injection of performance enhancing drugs “in the ass” before the debates.

Because he keeps bringing this up, I'm sure now that this will be his escape clause for not debating Biden.

Biden should offer to take a drug test before the debate as long as trump takes one too.

There's no way Trump will want that.

Captain_Swoop 20th September 2020 03:37 AM

According to OAN Trumps 'Long history of random acts of kindness goes unreported by the mainstream media'

No examples were forthcoming though.

Captain_Swoop 20th September 2020 03:38 AM

From the Rally

"Your love your president, and your president gets honored, because I'm being not honored, you are being honored , with the Nobel Peace Prize"
He is now talking as though he has actually won a Nobel.

He said that as a condition of TikTok's sale, he tried to shake down Oracle to put $5 billion into a fund "so we can educate people as to the real history of our country, the real history, not the fake."

"We are taking school funds away from these crazy schools that are teaching horrible things. Bad things, actually. We will teach our children the truth about America: That we are the most exceptional nation on the face of the Earth & we are getting better every single day"

Captain_Swoop 20th September 2020 03:42 AM

Trump's Fayetteville crowd is totally silent as he tells rambling, unending stories about Boeing and generals that call him "sir." Completely bonkers.

"The aircraft carriers that cost 10 times more than they should cost, and then they use, you know, the electric catapults. You've heard that, right? They don't want to use steam. Why? B/c it's too simple. B/c it works. B/c it's better, Elevators that are operated by magnets."

Captain_Swoop 20th September 2020 03:43 AM

"He's from North Carolina and he's cheap as hell" -- Trump on his chief of staff, Mark Meadows

Norman Alexander 20th September 2020 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13229842)
Trump's Fayetteville crowd is totally silent as he tells rambling, unending stories about Boeing and generals that call him "sir." Completely bonkers.

"The aircraft carriers that cost 10 times more than they should cost, and then they use, you know, the electric catapults. You've heard that, right? They don't want to use steam. Why? B/c it's too simple. B/c it works. B/c it's better, Elevators that are operated by magnets."

Yes, folks, he is YOUR president.

Norman Alexander 20th September 2020 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13229843)
"He's from North Carolina and he's cheap as hell" -- Trump on his chief of staff, Mark Meadows

Heh! Way to build good employee relationships within Trump Industries. Mark the craven putz must feel SO valued right about now...

Aridas 20th September 2020 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SezMe (Post 13229557)
Nope. Coll9ins is already in the biggest re-election battle she has ever had. A vote to approve will be her last and she knows it. She, among all the others, is the one I count on most.

It's possible that she'll maintain her stance. If I understand her voting history correctly, though, she has quite the history of reversing course if her vote actually matters.

I have no faith in her.

Going further, politically, there's more than one side to this. If she supports Trump/McConnell, her opposition will be energized even more and some fence-sitters will desert her. If she doesn't, she'll be alienating the people who are most likely to vote for her.

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13229739)
They don't want history to be taught; they want a 1950's Cinemascope Widescreen Color Epic version of history as written by the victors losers.

FTFY.

carlosy 20th September 2020 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13229865)
Yes, folks, he is YOUR president.

He is at least as stupid as they are.
That's why they love him.

Safe-Keeper 20th September 2020 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13229842)
Trump's Fayetteville crowd is totally silent as he tells rambling, unending stories about Boeing and generals that call him "sir."

Instead of the rambling clown they cheered enthusiastically in 2016 they're stuck with this rambling clown.

It's like when you make your bed and then it turns out you have to sleep in it, too.

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"The aircraft carriers that cost 10 times more than they should cost, and then they use, you know, the electric catapults. You've heard that, right? They don't want to use steam. Why? B/c it's too simple. B/c it works. B/c it's better, Elevators that are operated by magnets."
The predictive keyboard president.

Gulliver Foyle 20th September 2020 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13229496)
Why do Trump supporters think harassing voters outside polling places is somehow going to make them LESS likely to vote?

It's an effective tactic when they're let get away with it outside abortion clinics. Why wouldn't it transfer over?

Gulliver Foyle 20th September 2020 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SezMe (Post 13229557)
Nope. Coll9ins is already in the biggest re-election battle she has ever had. A vote to approve will be her last and she knows it. She, among all the others, is the one I count on most.

Don't hold your breath. You'll be a skeleton long before she breaks party ranks. Her schtick has always been to put on a concerned face and express "deep concern" over whatever anti-democratic measures the republicans are pushing and then to turn around and be the first to vote for them. Her voting with Trump record is at 94% and she always had high party line voting records, no matter how wrong she publicly said the thing she was voting for was.

Gulliver Foyle 20th September 2020 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey (Post 13229609)
Not a serious attempt at assassination, if that's what you're thinking: ricin isn't effective by mere contact, and it's unlikely anybody at the White House is in the habit of immediately eating, inhaling, or injecting whatever they receive unsolicited in the mail. At a party, perhaps, but not through the mail.

Inside job then?

Gulliver Foyle 20th September 2020 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Cain (Post 13229694)
In the past seven presidential elections (soon to be eight), Republican candidates managed to win the popular vote just once. Obama served for eight years and appointed two Justices; Trump might appoint three in just one term. It's just stupid.

As someone commented on Twitter: “contrary to our supposedly pragmatic nature, american institutions are revered in proportion to how much they do not work.”

And that one time was only "won" by some very heavy cheating, voter supression, non counting of votes, deliberately putting broken voting machines in Democrat voting areas and the resumption of Jim Crow era "voting tests".

Safe-Keeper 20th September 2020 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13229496)
Why do Trump supporters think harassing voters outside polling places is somehow going to make them LESS likely to vote?

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Safe-Keeper 20th September 2020 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Gulliver Foyle (Post 13229896)
And that one time was only "won" by some very heavy cheating, voter supression, non counting of votes, deliberately putting broken voting machines in Democrat voting areas and the resumption of Jim Crow era "voting tests".

Then on top of all that he had the gall to claim the election was rigged -- by the Democrats.

Safe-Keeper 20th September 2020 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey (Post 13229609)
Not a serious attempt at assassination, if that's what you're thinking: ricin isn't effective by mere contact, and it's unlikely anybody at the White House is in the habit of immediately eating, inhaling, or injecting whatever they receive unsolicited in the mail. At a party, perhaps, but not through the mail.

To be fair, though, the target in this case was particularly stupid.
Unfortunately he hasn't replaced the Secret Service, too, with grifters and family members, so the package probably never reached him in the first place.

Aridas 20th September 2020 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lupus (Post 13229759)
I'd love to hear an example or this happening.

Government shutdown. Wall stuff. Multiple things related to COVID. "Liberate <state>." Those just to start, really.

To be fair, there's a lot more in the way of feedback loop between Trump and Fox than anything adversarial - especially when it comes to the relationship between Trump and Hannity, who's been known at times as basically a shadow chief of staff. Still, to be clear, are you actually seriously not aware of how influenced by Fox News Trump is? The sheer number of tweets reacting to one thing or another that was on Fox, alone, should clue you in a bit on the influence there.


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Originally Posted by Lupus (Post 13229759)
I also hope things keep getting better. Will the long-term damage be in 30 years the history books saying "Trump was actually a Russian agent who infiltrated the White House to end the sanctions on Russia."?

If the damage was limited to just something of that level, it would be lovely.


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Originally Posted by Lupus (Post 13229759)
That's nonsense, because it was testing for people of equal wealth. That'd be even better if it showed equal happiness controlled for differences in depression and other mental illnesses. lol

Hmm? So, shall I assume that all you were actually doing was trying to cherry pick, then, rather than reading what was said for understanding and comprehension?



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Originally Posted by Lupus (Post 13229759)
Being happy under ******** life circumstances makes you more mentally healthy, than someone that bases their mood on externals.

I disagree. Facing reality is more a sign of good mental health than running away from the truth with self-delusion. It's when you can handle reality well with as little self-delusion as possible (it's effectively impossible to get rid of all self-delusion, regardless) that you can be said to be mentally healthy and if you add facing tough circumstances to that, then you can truly be said to be mentally strong. Running away is certainly easier, though.


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Originally Posted by Lupus (Post 13229759)
I thought you had me, but the situation is actually more sad. Most liberals, similar to hippy-types act as if they are happy in front of other people but are miserable on the inside. They go out and smile and act friendly but underneath the skin tells a darker story. It's a similar story for my mother.

Got actual evidence to back up your claim? Or are you just trying to dismiss evidence simply because it conflicts with a belief that you are attached to?


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Originally Posted by Lupus (Post 13229759)
I'm not really sure what your argument is, all I heard is that you beat your Dad in a debate and he refused to acquiesce. You've done that before, right?

I suppose that's a fair reaction. Those examples were end result, rather than how things work.

I suppose I feel like directing you towards Tobin Smith, then, for ease's sake.

To take an excerpt from that link -

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And what about those designated liberals aka “libtards” on my shows?

I can tell you (with very few exceptions) that a big part of the Fox News “fair and balanced” scam was also built from this reality: articulate, principled, worldly liberals — especially women — don’t exist in Roger’s Fox News world.

The designated liberals job was simple: make the viewer so enraged from their recitation of hated liberal/progressive ideological heresy (theology that the Fox viewer, of course, had been taught to hate from decades of listening to thousands of hours of conservative talk radio) that the viewer literally felt like “throwing a brick through my TV screen.”

Key Point: the viewer’s rage set their brain’s pleasure-giving dopamine delivery system into high gear...and when their fellow conservative protagonist/tribal hero (aka me the hitman) turned the liberal’s own words against them and vanquished the sniveling apostate into living hell on live TV…WOW…the pleasure chemical rushed through the Fox viewer's brain like a deep hit of crack cocaine (btw its the dopamine system in the brain that cocaine stimulates and makes it so addictive).

The other reality of Fox opinion programming is even more diabolical than simply fooling old people into believing they are watching a “fair fight”:
The goal at Fox News is explicit: Produce outrage inducing partisan performance art insufficient emotional intensity to produce enough pleasure/dopamine to get their dopamine addicted viewer the high the need until the NEXT Fox News opinion program.

Neuroscience has known for years that “news junkies” or “political junkies” were in fact addicts…junkies…who got their addictive dopamine hit from the emotional roller coaster of unbridled outrage followed by the dopamine-releasing experience derived from the thrill of watching the victory/denouement of the ideological apostate.

alfaniner 20th September 2020 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Lupus (Post 13229759)
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Originally Posted by Aridas View Post
Trump's quite amply demonstrated that Fox can fairly easily get him to change course on numerous occasions. That's even without the money part of things.

I'd love to hear an example or this happening.

I've seen a couple of reports on CNN that have followed the timeline. Carlson or Hannity say something ridiculous, and a short time later (sometimes minutes) Trump is parroting the same thing as if it was his own idea, often using the same words. This has often made me think that it's not Trump that is the most powerful person in the world, it's those guys.

Captain_Swoop 20th September 2020 06:25 AM

Trump Tweets

Jim, to late to take it back. Stay with the truth, no pandering!
Quote Tweet

The Recount
@therecount
Jim Cramer: “What deal can we have, Crazy Nancy? I’m sorry, that was the president. I have such reverence for the office. I would never use that term ...”

Captain_Swoop 20th September 2020 06:33 AM

Trump Tweets

Fake News!
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Mary Beth Coyte
@mbcoyte
I finally unfollowed CNN today. They used to be a great news station, now they’re just a propaganda arm of the Democrat Party. I’m done!

Kingdomsaracen
@infidelsaracen
@kaitlancollins and @PressSecKayleigh is awesome no wonder Boris is looking for a British version

swelsh
@swelsh4 @PressSec is the boss! Love her. CNN will never learn

Captain_Swoop 20th September 2020 06:34 AM

Trump Tweets

Great!
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Karlyn Borysenko has run out of effs to give
@DrKarlynB
45% of gay men are voting for @realDonaldTrump!!!!

Captain_Swoop 20th September 2020 06:36 AM

Trump retweeted

Dawn Michael
@SexCounseling
It looks like President Trump is leading in the polls in North Carolina.

Captain_Swoop 20th September 2020 06:41 AM

Trump Tweeted

Buy Lou’s GREAT New Book!
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Lou Dobbs
@LouDobbs
Fighting China’s Threat: @mikepillsbury touts @realDonaldTrump’s international accomplishments and his push for an arms control agreement with Communist China. #AmericaFirst #MAGA #Dobbs

Captain_Swoop 20th September 2020 06:44 AM

THANK YOU NORTH CAROLINA!

LAW & ORDER!

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

Vote!

Joe Biden says this is a race between Scranton and Park Avenue. This is a race between Scranton and China. Joe Biden betrayed Scranton, and America, to China and foreign countries. I will always put America First!

varwoche 20th September 2020 06:48 AM

Wrong thread

Captain_Swoop 20th September 2020 07:16 AM

Trump Tweets

People want respect for our Anthem and our Flag. Ratings will only get worse! Didn’t we go through this once before?
Quote Tweet

Daily Caller
@DailyCaller
NFL TV Ratings Are In The Toilet. There's Probably 1 Major Reason Why https://dailycaller.com/2020/09/14/s...gs-28-percent/

Captain_Swoop 20th September 2020 07:18 AM

It's disgusting how they only spend 1 minute honoring the flag and 2 hours 59 minutes showing football. It should be the reverse.

Mumbles 20th September 2020 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13229933)
Trump Tweets

Jim, to late to take it back. Stay with the truth, no pandering!
Quote Tweet

The Recount
@therecount
Jim Cramer: “What deal can we have, Crazy Nancy? I’m sorry, that was the president. I have such reverence for the office. I would never use that term ...”

I mean, I'd say that the host is a dangerous carnival barker in many cases, but...well, it's Jim Cramer. Kinda just goes with the name.

Darat 20th September 2020 07:28 AM

Mod WarningWe know there will be a bit of unavoidable overlap with the recent death and selection of the next supreme judge but as much as possible please keep discussions of that topic to its own thread.
Responding to this mod box in thread will be off topic Posted By:darat

Captain_Swoop 20th September 2020 07:52 AM

trump Tweets

THANK YOU! #MAGA. 53% APPROVAL!
And 96% in the Republican Party. Save your 2nd Amendment!

Elagabalus 20th September 2020 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13230000)
trump Tweets

THANK YOU! #MAGA. 53% APPROVAL!
And 96% in the Republican Party. Save your 2nd Amendment!


I took away your bump stocks!!

Skeptic Ginger 20th September 2020 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lupus (Post 13229759)
...
It's his personal information what his tax plan shows. I guess largely self-funded would have been a better way to describe it since he's spent 1.5 billion dollars and is now worth 2.5 billion. If Mueller reports didn't find any connections, I don't know what will.

First off re the highlighted, it's bogus. He didn't fund his own campaign and I doubt you can find any reliable source that he's a billionaire besides himself and sources that regurgitate his claims.

As for the Mueller report, the public has yet to see what the report says because Barr lied about what's in it and there are redacted parts few people have seen. And it's quite absurd to claim Trump is clean when multiple people running his campaign were indicted and convicted.


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I also hope things keep getting better. Will the long-term damage be in 30 years the history books saying "Trump was actually a Russian agent who infiltrated the White House to end the sanctions on Russia."?
It will say Trump was a pathologic narcissist who was the most corrupt POTUS in American history. It will say Putin exploited this to his advantage.


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I thought you had me, but the situation is actually more sad. Most liberals, similar to hippy-types act as if they are happy in front of other people but are miserable on the inside. They go out and smile and act friendly but underneath the skin tells a darker story. It's a similar story for my mother
.:rolleyes:

Bob001 20th September 2020 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Lupus (Post 13229759)
....
It's his personal information what his tax plan shows. I guess largely self-funded would have been a better way to describe it since he's spent 1.5 billion dollars and is now worth 2.5 billion. If Mueller reports didn't find any connections, I don't know what will.
....


I'm not sure what you think your lengthy rant is supposed to mean, but Mueller did not investigate Trump's taxes or his lifetime financial corruption. The Mueller probe was restricted to looking for criminal interference in the 2016 election. There's no doubt that Trump has cheated on his taxes, consorted with organized crime and laundered money for Russian gangsters for decades. We may never know the extent or the details.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/30/u...epartment.html
https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion...ey-laundering/
https://newrepublic.com/article/1435...rime-syndicate
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...94f_story.html

Ryokan 20th September 2020 08:50 AM

USA just passed the UK in corona deaths per capita.

TragicMonkey 20th September 2020 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper (Post 13229905)
To be fair, though, the target in this case was particularly stupid.
Unfortunately he hasn't replaced the Secret Service, too, with grifters and family members, so the package probably never reached him in the first place.

I seriously doubt whether Donald Trump has ever in his entire life opened a piece of mail. It's an activity that combines: minimal physical exertion, minimal physical coordination, a child-level understanding of a centuries-old system of communication, an ability to read, and a desire to intake information from a source other than television. None of those things is in Trump's wheelhouse, and several of them are outright anathema to him.

SezMe 20th September 2020 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 13228750)
My whip count right now is that Collins and Murkowski will oppose.

You left an important Senator out. The Arizona election is a special one in that it is a replacement for McCain's seat for which McSally was appointed. Mark Kelly, a Democrat, is going to win that election and he doesn't have to wait for January 2021 to be seated. He can take office as soon as the election results are certified. That is a sure vote for the Dems and he can be seated as soon as the end of November.

The Great Zaganza 20th September 2020 09:23 AM

Trump jokes that he can ban Biden from becoming President via Executive Order:

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1307...857315840?s=20


Democracy is just a joke to his fans.

thaiboxerken 20th September 2020 09:24 AM

It's a joke the same way a guy "jokes" to his gf about having a threesome with his gf's best friend....

SezMe 20th September 2020 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 13229678)
But McConnell can foil those problems by having the vote in the lame duck.

True, but in the lame duck, McConnell has far, far less leverage than before the election. The losers don't have to give a damn what he threatens them with and the winners have six years to go before their next election by which time this will be ancient history. Moscow's maximum leverage is right now.


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