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Stacyhs 4th June 2022 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13825251)
Marjorie Taylor Greene says that Christian nationalism is nothing to fear because it's the only thing that can stop school shootings, crime, and sexual immorality, declaring that anyone who opposes it is a "domestic terrorist."

Video in link

https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/s...24881523081216

From your link:

"Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) just reacted to Trump Advisor Peter Navarro’s indictment: “If you're a Republican, you can't even lie to Congress or lie to an FBI agent or they're coming after you!”

Damn Democrats and their witch hunts for people committing crimes!

jimbob 4th June 2022 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13822513)
Why do we keep getting told this (and variations on it) as if it's supposed to be comforting or is supported by recent history?

As already noted we got told the exact same thing about Trump and that didn't exactly pan out. I have zero reason to believe that old school Republicans A) can really control their fringes when they reach some arbitrary point of "no longer worth it" or B) want to.

I'm starting to get tired of the only optimism (not exactly the right word but close) being allowed is vague allusions to some undefined random point in the future where the evil and wrong will be forced to stop being evil and wrong by slightly less evil and wrong for no discernable reason by some vague unsupported idea that things just can't keep getting worse forever.

"No things can't get that bad. At some arbitrary point some force will magically start operating in the exact opposite way it always acts and fix it all." is nonsense.

Dangerous, violent, Post-fact conspiracy idiots like MTG are the Republican's future. Nobody knows that better than the Republican Old Guard. This mythology that they are going to pull the Ghost Army from LOTR on the Boeberts and the Greenes (and the much, much, much worse versions of them waiting in the wings) is suicidality naively laughable.


More likely that they feign shock whilst being pleased that the "unsayable" is now being said and the terms of the debate is shifted.

Paul2 4th June 2022 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13825393)
From your link:

"Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) just reacted to Trump Advisor Peter Navarro’s indictment: “If you're a Republican, you can't even lie to Congress or lie to an FBI agent or they're coming after you!”

Damn Democrats and their witch hunts for people committing crimes!

The ultimate problem with Gohmert's statement is not (just) that it's idiotic, it's horribly nefarious. Him getting away with saying that destroys any impulse toward critical thinking and evaluating what a politician says, rather than just sucking it down because the pol is part of your tribe. It gets the tribe to accept anything. The more idiotic, the better, because then the tribe is even more firmly in your grasp, and you can do what you want and say what you want with no fear of challenge.

It's similar to how Trump's firehose of lies destroyed a common sense of truth.

We need to focus less on the idiocy of these statements, lies, etc., and more on the political rot they create.

Stacyhs 4th June 2022 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul2 (Post 13825627)
The ultimate problem with Gohmert's statement is not (just) that it's idiotic, it's horribly nefarious. Him getting away with saying that destroys any impulse toward critical thinking and evaluating what a politician says, rather than just sucking it down because the pol is part of your tribe. It gets the tribe to accept anything. The more idiotic, the better, because then the tribe is even more firmly in your grasp, and you can do what you want and say what you want with no fear of challenge.

It's similar to how Trump's firehose of lies destroyed a common sense of truth.

We need to focus less on the idiocy of these statements, lies, etc., and more on the political rot they create.

Do you think any of the people who vote for idiots like Gohmert, Boebert, MTG, Cawthorn, etc give a damn about the 'political rot' they create?

Paul2 4th June 2022 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13825634)
Do you think any of the people who vote for idiots like Gohmert, Boebert, MTG, Cawthorn, etc give a damn about the 'political rot' they create?

'Course not / rhetorical.

shemp 4th June 2022 12:47 PM

It doesn't matter, the political rot has already gone too far.

Agatha 4th June 2022 12:47 PM

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