Australian Politics - The Morrison Period Part II
 

True. But some of those have come by plane, which the government can't stop, and the one boat they needed to stop they didn't.

Well one thing that might happen now that his beloved Sydney is in the **** is that Scott “this is not a race” Morrison might get serious about vaccinations.

Darwin did go into 48 hour lockdown.

A national lockdown isn’t out of the question. All because of a Sydney quarantine leak. Thank you Gladys and Scott.

New rules in the ACT effective from tonight

We must wear a facemask while indoors other than home and work. This includes on public transport and in shops.

Details https://www.covid19.act.gov.au/act-s...nse/face-masks

I have been waiting for this to happen. Glad it has.

I agree - both should be strung up.

Morrison, for failing to provide suitable quarantine - and our gov't is playing the same deadly game - when excellent alternatives could be arranged in days.

Gladys, for failing to act quickly enough.

There have been plenty of other quarantine leaks in Brisbane, Melbourne and Adelaide. So let's string up all those premiers too, shall we?

The problem with leaks has been the misplaced expectation that hotels are adequate quarantine locations. Clearly they are not, medically speaking, and a few moments of thought would have realised this. Hotels are just a smaller version of a cruise ship, and we all shuddered at the thought of these "floating petri dishes". Hotels were chosen by the pollies because they already existed, were easier to corral people, and were easier to finance quickly. Expediency.

What we really needed was a federal government initiative to quickly create quarantine facilities. But Scomo clearly was not up to something that wasn't spin and marketing. He handed off responsibility to the states, and sat back saying "How good's Australia!" Bushfires all over again.:mad:

I hope Victoria hurries up with their planned new purpose-built quarantine facility.

Darwin’s Howard Springs facility, a repurposed workers village comprising of single bed cabins, has had no leaks so far. Seems we have ignored the realities of aerosol transmission so we don’t have to deal with the broken hotel system. Change too expensive? Hotel industry enjoying a windfall?

Just reading about the plans for states' facilities.

Victoria's will be based on Howard Springs and is said to be up and running by the end of the year.

More on the others:

https://amp.9news.com.au/article/712...d-7bc58e9e77cc

Some of the city hotels would have been hurting without the quarantine business. You wonder how much lobbying went on.

No, I don't wonder. :rolleyes:

It certainly didn't take Barnaby long to start spouting bull ****.

Barnaby Joyce urged to apologise over ‘burning flesh’ comments about Melbourne’s Covid impact

Beetroot might end up alienating some rural conservative voters with that kind of BS. I know a few who are very sympathetic to hard lockdowns.

If he and his mates in federal parliament want to appease some of their industry paymasters by preventing lockdowns they should sort out the vaccine farce.

I agree. Some rural areas have heaps of holiday homes. If there is a Covid 19 outbreak then city people are likely to run to these holiday homes and wait out the outbreak. This would put the rural communities at risk. However, if a lockdown is enforced early, the city people cannot flee to their country homes. This would keep the rural areas safe.

Barney, Barney, Barney. Wear a damn mask, yeah?

If Beetroot keeps getting everybody and their dog offside from the get-go, and also racks up fines for being an absolute dick, there may be hope that his tenure as First Sidekick may be VERY short.



.......What am I saying. Scomo is the PM. So absolutely nothing will get done until Beetroot reduces the coalition to smoking rubble.

You'd think that even Albo would be able to win an election with this lot in government. But I said that about Shorten, too.

Lets not go full Murrica and turn mask wearing into a political issue. That would be great thanks, Beetroot and your mates on Sky.

Question for you: is there a move to place Mark Butler into Labor's leadership?

And if not, why not?

Miles behind. Barely mentioned in dispatches.

Why do you think he has any chance of leadership?

That's what I wanted to know. I completely forgot this guy existed and he's an MP for a seat in my state.

I didn't know where he was positioned, which is why I asked. Given the shortcomings of Labor's current and former utter screw-ups I'd expect there to be a serious search for someone to take over from the wee loser currently destroying their hopes.

Butler is the one Aussie politician I consistently see saying the right things about Covid response and corruption in the NLP*.

I must be looking at the wrong media.

As you were then. Albo all the way!




*Yes, I know they're not the NLP, but given those initials also stand for "neuro-linguistic programming" I think they work very well.

There are plenty of Labor MPs better than Albo, and they have been spoken about in this thread.

Their main problem is that, unlike the LNP, most of them are hampered by brains and honesty.

Looks like Gladys' idea of a soft lockdown didn't work: https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/austra...ile-infectious

Quite amazing that after all this time, and with more-infectious cases, the need for fast and hard lockdown hasn't sunk in.

Looks to me that instead of two weeks that would have worked if you went hard early is going to be more like six. The fact that people won't self-manage is borne out by the 13 infectious people who were out and about.

Good to see the other states taking it more seriously - they'll reap the benefits of that pretty quickly.

Meanwhile, Morrison claims to be building a pathway out of Covid, using lots of vague ideas and nothing specific whatsoever.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/austra...out-of-covid19

I expect 100 cases a day soon. There is no lockdown in NSW. Retail outlets and shopping centres still open. Massive numbers of people promenading in Bondi and the northern beaches.

Gladys has ****** this up royally. This will be worse than the Ruby Princess.

A joke, as expected. No dates, no vaccination targets. A nothing burger.

Not quite. It's about 30. Still bad though.

Yeah there is!

For essential shopping only, properly masked and distancing, etc. Food outlets are doing take-away only.

Yeah, that's a bit silly. They are supposedly "exercising in groups of no more than 50". What is that about...

Yep, dozens sent to hospital or dying. It will be an absolute plague. Wait... That's not actually happening with those already diagnosed. Something wrong there...

Scomo is desperately trying to spin his way out of responsibility and commitment for this. That's the only way he knows how to deal with crises. And he is flailing badly. Beetroot is loving it because it makes him look half capable, and he's a crazed imbecile.

I’ve read that retail shops like JB HiFi are open as well as Harvey Norman. Only on Twitter, so what is the situation?

But seriously, exercise with 50 maskless people?

No this is lockdown lite. In the last three days there have been 36 infected, non isolated people. I stick with my 100 a day infections in a few days.

Bigger retailers are still open with masking, distancing, and limited numbers. Some places are shut though.

That's what The Rules^TM allow.

https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/rules/greater-sydney

We shall see. It isn't pretty, and some people are just ******* careless. The known infections so far are all associated with only a couple of spreader events.

Linked infections are not the issue. We all know that almost all are linked to the limo driver. Its those non isolated infected people, and there has been a heap due to the non-lockdown.

But to stick to politics, Gladys is still in NSW is right just because mode. A typical Liberal, more concerned about the dollar than the health of citizens. There is a pregnant woman in ICU with covid. **** you Gladys.

Looking at my stats. There been cases in the last few days in every state except Tasmania and the ACT. I think that is more luck than anything else. All it takes is one holidaymaker to go back home with Covid 19 and that state is in big trouble.

The Tanami gold mine, for example.

1 - it's a bit early to see deaths.

2 - older people are being a lot more cautious and the infections are largely among younger groups, who are less-likely to die.

That's a problem in that it will encourage people not to take it seriously, which is how outbreaks get worse very quickly.

It's also how new variants develop. Which is of concern on a far less local and more global level.

It's 3 days later and they just announced 16 new cases in NSW.

What's happened?

Noise. Probably the labs are not working flat out on a Saturday. Still too high.