Originally Posted by Babbylonian (Post 13131857)

Except for one tiny little thing: Unless they're run entirely by partisan hacks, courts generally want to hear reasons (they prefer good ones) for wildly unusual actions taken by government officials. This action is such a naked attempt to politicize the Justice Department that if it goes to court it will be pretty tough for a judge not to tell Barr to GTFO.

It's particularly unclothed given that the process was kicked off by the bald-faced lie that Berman was "stepping down." There's simply no getting around the obvious untruth of those words. It's passive-aggressive ******** that was almost certainly generated because there was some question as to whether Trump or Barr could fire film outright. The hope was likely that Berman would get the message and go away quietly, perhaps in the belief that fighting it would be more trouble than it's worth. Instead, they've given him the opportunity to parlay their ******** into a big step towards higher office by being the underdog crime-fighting hero.

Originally Posted by Meadmaker (Post 13131865)

That's true. I said it was a "losing" case, but I just meant that, ultimately, Barr/Trump will come out on top. Even if a judge rules that you can't fire him, he's still answerable to the executive branch, so they can certainly pull his funding or in other ways restrict his actions. He said his investigations will continue. I'm pretty sure Barr can make certain that doesn't happen.

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13131444)

Geoffrey Berman, Attorney for the SDNY, is getting replaced by Barr.
This would have nothing to do with him going after Guiliani's band or merry miscreants, would it?

Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 13132021)

The concept of obstruction of justice means nothing any more, does it?

Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 13132021)

The concept of obstruction of justice means nothing any more, does it?

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13132025)

Not in this administration.

If Biden wins, I expect Barr will be among the very first to go.

Originally Posted by Segnosaur (Post 13132091)

Being a cabinet posting, the Attorney general always leaves when a president is replaced. He will leave at the same time Trump does.

(Well, unless he resigns or gets fired early.)

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 13132101)

Traditionally cabinet members resign when the new President takes office. Traditionally. I can well imagine them all refusing to do so, just to make trouble. There's nothing traditional about this administration.

Originally Posted by Armitage72 (Post 13131612)

I've seen people paraphrasing his response as "Go **** yourself."

https://i.imgur.com/0Uv5Je6.jpg

Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin (Post 13134521)

Did no one proofread that release? Yikes!

Originally Posted by Segnosaur (Post 13134494)

I agree that this current administration is basically breaking all the norms for how the government should work.

But I really don't think cabinet members are able to stay on past the end of the president's term. These are not career public servants, they are individuals selected by the president to act as his personal advisors/minions/etc. They are members of the executive branch, which is identified with the president. It would make no sense for them to NEED to get fired after the president leaves office.

(I attempted to google anything about cabinet members having to officially resign at the end of the president's term but could find nothing. Perhaps you have some reference to back up your point?)

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13132025)

Not in this administration.

If Biden wins, I expect Barr will be among the very first to go.

Originally Posted by Segnosaur (Post 13134494)

I agree that this current administration is basically breaking all the norms for how the government should work.

But I really don't think cabinet members are able to stay on past the end of the president's term. These are not career public servants, they are individuals selected by the president to act as his personal advisors/minions/etc. They are members of the executive branch, which is identified with the president. It would make no sense for them to NEED to get fired after the president leaves office.

(I attempted to google anything about cabinet members having to officially resign at the end of the president's term but could find nothing. Perhaps you have some reference to back up your point?)

Originally Posted by Segnosaur (Post 13134494)

I agree that this current administration is basically breaking all the norms for how the government should work.

But I really don't think cabinet members are able to stay on past the end of the president's term. These are not career public servants, they are individuals selected by the president to act as his personal advisors/minions/etc. They are members of the executive branch, which is identified with the president. It would make no sense for them to NEED to get fired after the president leaves office.

(I attempted to google anything about cabinet members having to officially resign at the end of the president's term but could find nothing. Perhaps you have some reference to back up your point?)

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 13135008)

Not off hand, I'd have to do some digging.

The other problem a Dem President is likely certain to have is getting the Senate to confirm his choices, especially if the R's retain control.

Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13135132)

Yes,.a GOP controlled senate could ensure that any role that requires confirmation remains unfilled regardless of the candidate. They're also the kind of people to do it too. :mad:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 13135008)

Not off hand, I'd have to do some digging.

The other problem a Dem President is likely certain to have is getting the Senate to confirm his choices, especially if the R's retain control.

Originally Posted by Babbylonian (Post 13135098)

You won't find anything because there is no requirement to resign. In fact, cabinet members could remain in office indefinitely if they don't resign and aren't fired.

Originally Posted by CORed (Post 13135163)

I suspect that even with a Democratic majority, the Republicans will try to filibuster every appointment, unless the Dems get smart and just do away with the filibuster entirely. If the Republicans hold a Senate majority, I expect they will go to full scale obstruction of just about everything Biden or the House initiate, be it legislation or appointments, just as they did during most of the Obama administration.

Originally Posted by quadraginta (Post 13135352)

So Biden will have a large collection of "acting" cabinet members,etc..

Thankfully for him there has been an abundance of recent precedent for that.

Originally Posted by quadraginta (Post 13135351)

I think (don't 'know') that it is customary for cabinet members to off their resignations to an incoming president. It's up to him whether he wants to accept them or not.

Originally Posted by Crossbow (Post 13143585)

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trump-camp...041455477.html

This particular lackey assured Trump that the recent Tulsa stadium event would be overflowing with Trump supporters, it turned out that the Tulsa stadium was less than half full of Trump supporters.

Therefore, Michael Glassner has been flushed from his job and replaced with a different Trump lackey.

Trump campaign shakes up top staff after Tulsa rally debacle

Trump campaign chief operating officer Michael Glassner, who had been heavily involved in planning the president’s rallies, has been replaced by Trump's 2016 Arizona chair Jeff DeWit, a major shakeup at the top of the president’s campaign following the Tulsa rally debacle and four months from Election Day, multiple sources tell ABC News.

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The shake up and Glassner’s reassignment are in part a result of how badly things went in Tulsa, sources tell ABC News.

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Originally Posted by a_unique_person (Post 13158577)

Trumps campaign manager sacked.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...-brad-parscale

Originally Posted by a_unique_person (Post 13158577)

Trumps campaign manager sacked.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...-brad-parscale

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13158672)

Any original players left in the team? Miller is the only one I can think of.

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13199637)

And as noted elsewhere, Kellyanne Conway.I actually admire her for keeping a straight face for so long.

Originally Posted by Matthew Ellard (Post 13199710)

Originally Posted by Matthew Ellard (Post 13199710)