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Skeptic Ginger 28th February 2021 07:14 PM

Militia groups want to 'blow up the Capitol' when Biden addresses Congress
 
Not sure where to put this. Seems like we need a fresh militia threat thread. There is the threat of a March 4 Trump event and more worrisome this CNN: Capitol Police chief warns militia groups want to 'blow up the Capitol' when Biden addresses Congress.
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Acting US Capitol Police Chief Yogananda Pittman warned Thursday that militia groups involved in the January 6 insurrection want to "blow up the Capitol" and "kill as many members as possible" when President Joe Biden addresses Congress.

Pressed by House lawmakers to provide a timeline for removing the razorwire fencing and other enhanced security measures installed after the US Capitol attack, Pittman said law enforcement remains concerned about threats by known militia groups "with a direct nexus to the State of the Union" address.
We have time:
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Biden's administration is considering an address to a joint session of Congress later this year, though a specific date hasn't been identified.
Homeland Security is monitoring internet chatter. :( But it's going to be the lone wolves that are the hardest to stop.

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"The most significant terrorism-related threat currently facing the nation comes from lone offenders and small groups of individuals inspired by domestic extremist ideological beliefs, including those based on false narratives spread over social media and other online platforms," the spokesperson added.

If this belongs somewhere else, thanks in advance for moving it.

Stacyhs 28th February 2021 07:31 PM

I brought this up in the "How bad will it get next week thread?" because we're supposed to believe by certain people...ok, one person...that it'll be just the "same old, same old" domestic terrorism a la Timothy McVeigh, the Unabomber, etc. I.E. not Trump motivated.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...c51f197801.jpg

Skeptic Ginger 28th February 2021 10:51 PM

I considered that thread but it really has run it's course. If we were only talking about March 4th .... but now we have a whole new set of circumstances.

Maybe a merged thread is in order.

The Great Zaganza 28th February 2021 11:08 PM

There is some twisted beauty in the reaction to right-wingers committing violence: because they have no sense of cognitive dissonance, an attack like the one on the Capitol, can be an expression of Patriotism and a False Flag operation at the same time.

Future terror attacks, too, will be seen as heroic and a (((left-wing Plot))) simultaneously.

Stacyhs 1st March 2021 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 13412097)
I considered that thread but it really has run it's course. If we were only talking about March 4th .... but now we have a whole new set of circumstances.

Maybe a merged thread is in order.

No problem.

Stacyhs 1st March 2021 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13412106)
There is some twisted beauty in the reaction to right-wingers committing violence: because they have no sense of cognitive dissonance, an attack like the one on the Capitol, can be an expression of Patriotism and a False Flag operation at the same time.

Future terror attacks, too, will be seen as heroic and a (((left-wing Plot))) simultaneously.

It's the same twisted logic from the people who have no problem seeing a serial adulterer, liar, conman, and sociopath without a shred of morals or conscience as the instrument of God sent to save America from the Commie, Socialist, Radical Libtards.

Skeptic Ginger 1st March 2021 12:32 AM

Perfect example Stacy. :thumbsup:

The Great Zaganza 1st March 2021 12:56 AM

I remember how, after 9/11, plenty of people trotted out the bit in the Koran that gives Believers permission to lie if it was in the furtherance of the Cause.

Current Conservationism, and Trumpism in particular has this in spades: lying to the Press, to Judges and voters is not only permissible, it is evidence of commitment to the Leader.

SuburbanTurkey 1st March 2021 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13412106)
There is some twisted beauty in the reaction to right-wingers committing violence: because they have no sense of cognitive dissonance, an attack like the one on the Capitol, can be an expression of Patriotism and a False Flag operation at the same time.

Future terror attacks, too, will be seen as heroic and a (((left-wing Plot))) simultaneously.

I don't see it as dissonance.

America is only America if ruled by Real AmericansTM. Any government not run by them is illegitimate.

It's boilerplate fascism crap, purging the nation of undesirables and enforcing their will through violence is all perfectly consistent with that ideology.

Venom 1st March 2021 10:33 AM

I made this thread a while back. Seems like the fears weren't unfounded.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=349038

MarkCorrigan 1st March 2021 04:14 PM

This is a surprise? Doesn't surprise me.

Emily's Cat 2nd March 2021 01:55 PM

Hopefully Homeland Security and the Secret Service will be able to nip this in the bud and prevent any violence from happening.

Stacyhs 3rd March 2021 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Emily's Cat (Post 13413886)
Hopefully Homeland Security and the Secret Service will be able to nip this in the bud and prevent any violence from happening.

Then certain people will say, "See? I told you the fear mongering was all way overblown!"

RolandRat 3rd March 2021 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13414249)
Then certain people will say, "See? I told you the fear mongering was all way overblown!"

Those certain people will never be convinced or swayed. Nipped in the bud? Project Fear. Attack carried out, left wing false flag.

We're talking about a group of people who believe Hilary Clinton drinks the blood of newborns.

They have been emboldened by Trump and the GoP. It's going to be a while before you guys can slap them back into place.

Craig4 3rd March 2021 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13414249)
Then certain people will say, "See? I told you the fear mongering was all way overblown!"

Depends on the packaging. If the USA and FBI SAC do a shoulder to shoulder press conference after some arrests, in front of a table full of scary looking guns, boxes of ammunition and bomb making material they will pretty much insulate themselves from fear mongering charges. If we keep hearing about these arrests for lower level felonies and misdemeanors of morons, yeah the public may have a hard time taking the threat seriously.

The DOJ should be able to come up with a couple of sacrificial lambs dumb enough to cross into seditious conspiracy who are also massive gun nuts to serve the purpose.

Darat 3rd March 2021 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 13412021)
Not sure where to put this. Seems like we need a fresh militia threat thread. There is the threat of a March 4 Trump event and more worrisome this CNN: Capitol Police chief warns militia groups want to 'blow up the Capitol' when Biden addresses Congress.

We have time:

Homeland Security is monitoring internet chatter. :( But it's going to be the lone wolves that are the hardest to stop.




If this belongs somewhere else, thanks in advance for moving it.

What did anyone expect from those Mexican murderers and rapists Biden has been sending private jets to bring into the country?

Skeptic Ginger 3rd March 2021 09:02 AM

I wonder if we'll see scattered mini-crowds tomorrow on a few street corners or in front of whatever buildings these guys focus on, while a Biden state of the union gives them a focal point to show up in one large group?

There were a bunch of cult members near CPAC, lining the street Sunday with Trump signs waiting for his limo to drive by. It's bizarre how many people are taken in by a lying con-man.

Jim_MDP 4th March 2021 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 13414603)
...

There were a bunch of cult members near CPAC, lining the street Sunday with Trump signs waiting for his limo to drive by. It's bizarre how many people are taken in by a lying con-man.

Popoff, Ham, the Graham's, Falwell, and a few score of others would disagree. [emoji20]

Skeptic Ginger 4th March 2021 06:47 PM

March 4 Trump day is over. Anyone have any local activity where they were? The Capitol certainly seemed quiet.

This was an interesting twist, it's all just fake news says The GatewayPundit but not the fake news one would expect, rather the fake news that there ever was a big protest planned.

Fake News ABC Desperately Tries to Drum Up Controversy After 4 Trump Supporters Show Up to ‘Planned March 4th Insurrection’ at US Capitol
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ABC News desperately tried to drum up some drama after virtually no one showed up to the US Capitol on Thursday.

Earlier this week Capitol Police increased security based on suspicious ‘intel’ warning of a militia plot to breach the Capitol on March 4. ...The Capitol Police claimed that there was intel warning of a new plan to attack the Capitol building.

According to Fox 5 DC, “sources” said they received an intelligence bulletin warning that Three Percenters were planning on breaching the Capitol on Thursday, March 4. ....
Yeah, what's with those fear mongers, none of the rest of us read about any of this in social media. :rolleyes:

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FOUR peaceful Trump supporters showed up to the US Capitol on Thursday and ABC News made it sound like a five alarm fire.

“High security at US Capitol as Trump supporters gather hoping for his return to power” ABC said with a photo of National Guard troops.
What fools listening to all those false alarms.

Skeptic Ginger 4th March 2021 06:49 PM

I think it's worth taking note, without Twitter Trump couldn't raise a ripple of a protest.

theprestige 4th March 2021 07:29 PM

You'd think that in the 21st century the security services would be able to handle this kind of threat without public fanfare and disruption of regular business.

Bogative 4th March 2021 08:00 PM

How long before Joe Biden and the media resurrect this to keep his supporters scared of nonexistent bogeyman?




http://www.internationalskeptics.com...ictureid=12765

Silly Green Monkey 4th March 2021 08:03 PM

What? How? Seriously, how? The disruption is happening, how modern-day security services (and how is that different from last century's boots'n'guns?) going to counter the disruption while creating normalcy for the businesses, whose idea of 'normalcy' doesn't have jackbooted idiots OR security patrols?

tyr_13 4th March 2021 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by theprestige (Post 13416391)
You'd think that in the 21st century the security services would be able to handle this kind of threat without public fanfare and disruption of regular business.

Yeah, it's been almost two months since our last insurrection. Why worry!

newyorkguy 4th March 2021 08:58 PM

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Meanwhile Richard Barnett -- you remember him, right? -- is getting antsy to get out of the DC Corrections facility. Thursday during a virtual appearance a federal judge continued his case until May 4th, meaning Barnett will remain in the DC jail until at least then. Barnett was described as livid. He angrily exclaimed, "Another month!" Apparently no one had the heart to tell him, "No, Mr. Barnett, this is March 4th. May 4th means two more months in the, um, facility."

I imagine the Washington DC Corrections Center is not a real comfortable place for someone like Barnett.

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Judge Cooper suggested a continuance until May 4, but that did not go over well with Barnett. “I’ve been here a long time … another month … It’s not fair,” Barnett could be heard telling the court about the suggested May date. “You’re letting everyone else out … I need help,” he yelled. At this point, the status conference was paused so Barnett could talk with his attorneys about the new court date. from the FOX affiliate in northwest Arkansas
Makes me think of some exceedingly sound advice a police detective named Anthony Baretta used to offer. "If you can't do the time...don't do the crime." ;)

timhau 4th March 2021 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13416414)
How long before Joe Biden and the media resurrect this to keep his supporters scared of nonexistent bogeyman?

Endless talk of a non-existent caravan of troublemakers heading our way sounds like a concept someone already used.

Bogative 4th March 2021 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by timhau (Post 13416453)
Endless talk of a non-existent caravan of troublemakers heading our way sounds like a concept someone already used.


20 years ago it was the “Muslim terrorists” who were going to attack America at any time.

Today it’s the “white right-wing terrorists.”

Stacyhs 4th March 2021 11:26 PM

I just love it when steps taken to prevent/discourage idiots from doing stupid things work and then people declare there was never any danger from those idiots in the first place.
It's like claiming brushing and flossing every day was a waste of time because you didn't have any cavities at your yearly dental check up.

Mumbles 4th March 2021 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Silly Green Monkey (Post 13416416)
What? How? Seriously, how? The disruption is happening, how modern-day security services (and how is that different from last century's boots'n'guns?) going to counter the disruption while creating normalcy for the businesses, whose idea of 'normalcy' doesn't have jackbooted idiots OR security patrols?

Thing is - the annual presidential address to Congress is *always* a massive security event, and has been for a good long time now. Anyone trying to get near the Capitol building or the White House without authorization...well, they've got a lot of experts, animals, surveillance, snipers, MRAPs, well-armed checkpoints...and that's the stuff that's publicly known.

The random crap like what today was supposed to be, will have somewhat less security than that.

But on the plus side, they seem to be taking actual threats seriously, instead of having the FBI repeatedly harass someone who was at a BLM rally, or sending helicopters to fly way too low at a protest. Why they need to keep learning this exact same lesson I'll never know...

The Great Zaganza 5th March 2021 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13416475)
20 years ago it was the “Muslim terrorists” who were going to attack America at any time.

Today it’s the “white right-wing terrorists.”

You are saying that Muslim terrorism is as real as white supremacist right-wing terrorism.

Got it.

Minoosh 5th March 2021 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13416475)
20 years ago it was the “Muslim terrorists” who were going to attack America at any time.

A correct belief.

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Today it’s the “white right-wing terrorists.”
Them too.

I can't tell where you're going with this, apologies if I missed something important.

catsmate 5th March 2021 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by timhau (Post 13416453)
Endless talk of a non-existent caravan of troublemakers heading our way sounds like a concept someone already used.

:D :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13416498)
I just love it when steps taken to prevent/discourage idiots from doing stupid things work and then people declare there was never any danger from those idiots in the first place.
It's like claiming brushing and flossing every day was a waste of time because you didn't have any cavities at your yearly dental check up.

The Y2k fallacy is still around.

timhau 5th March 2021 04:55 AM

Why are you people being so dramatic about something that happened two months ago possibly happening again? Don't you leftist morons realize that the real danger is in fictional brown people heading for the border and fabricated threats of communism?

SuburbanTurkey 5th March 2021 05:04 AM

The chatter about March 4 was never as prolific and extreme as the stuff that was leading up to the Jan6 attack. It was appropriate to take precautions, but I suspect a lot of this publicity was about the cops trying to salvage their damaged reputation more than anything.

They were caught asleep at the wheel and now they're trying to put out the message that they're being more diligent in their duty.

Belz... 5th March 2021 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 13416363)
March 4 Trump day is over.

Did I miss Trump's triumphant return and inauguration?

Norman Alexander 5th March 2021 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by newyorkguy (Post 13416448)
Meanwhile Richard Barnett -- you remember him, right? -- is getting antsy to get out of the DC Corrections facility. Thursday during a virtual appearance a federal judge continued his case until May 4th, meaning Barnett will remain in the DC jail until at least then. Barnett was described as livid. He angrily exclaimed, "Another month!" Apparently no one had the heart to tell him, "No, Mr. Barnett, this is March 4th. May 4th means two more months in the, um, facility."

I imagine the Washington DC Corrections Center is not a real comfortable place for someone like Barnett.

A precious little snowflake with mental problems hiding inside the fragile and cracked shell of a T**** bully.

kookbreaker 5th March 2021 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13416498)
I just love it when steps taken to prevent/discourage idiots from doing stupid things work and then people declare there was never any danger from those idiots in the first place.
It's like claiming brushing and flossing every day was a waste of time because you didn't have any cavities at your yearly dental check up.

Same people whined that we wasted effort working on the Y2K problem when the year came without the apocalypse they had been creaming themselves over. Never mind that the efforts were what kept a disaster at bay.

Armitage72 5th March 2021 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13416498)
I just love it when steps taken to prevent/discourage idiots from doing stupid things work and then people declare there was never any danger from those idiots in the first place.
It's like claiming brushing and flossing every day was a waste of time because you didn't have any cavities at your yearly dental check up.


I've regularly seen things like "We don't need the FDA anymore. Our food is safe now", as if they aren't engaging in ongoing activities that keep it safe. Once it's safe, it's safe forever, no matter what happens.

Mumbles 5th March 2021 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by timhau (Post 13416618)
Why are you people being so dramatic about something that happened two months ago possibly happening again? Don't you leftist morons realize that the real danger is in fictional brown people heading for the border and fabricated threats of communism?

Don't forget cancelling the Muppets by adding a disclaimer to some eps of their 40 year old show, and "intersectionality" which is when everyone gets together to beat straight white men with baseball bats or something.

Dr. Keith 5th March 2021 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 13414264)
The DOJ should be able to come up with a couple of sacrificial lambs dumb enough to cross into seditious conspiracy who are also massive gun nuts to serve the purpose.

Hey, that's my brother you're talking about.


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