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Captain_Swoop 22nd September 2020 05:13 PM

"We're gonna make a play for New York," Trump claims (he's losing by nearly 30 points in NY, so no, he's not)

a_unique_person 22nd September 2020 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giordano (Post 13232009)
No Sherlock. She is allegedly considering this as one way of throwing a shoe in your SC nomination and confirmation machinery to slow it down until after the election.



But after the Woodward interviews I really don’t know if Trump is that stupid, trolling his opposition, or trolling his supporters. I now often think he toys with his supporters amusing himself with just how stupid they are.

He thinks everyone is more stupid than him. All his life he has worked on scams to screw others and to a degree, it has worked. Then he was elected POTUS. He doesn't need any further confirmation.

Lurch 22nd September 2020 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13232305)
Trump Retweeted

Secretary Pompeo
@SecPompeo
US government account
The world needs to unite around the central idea that the Islamic Republic of Iran is the greatest threat, and when that regime changes its behavior, we have the chance to create true global stability in the region. It’s what President @realDonaldTrump asked us to do.

We welcome the UK, Germany, and France's rejection of China's unlawful maritime claims in the South China Sea at the United Nations. China must abide by international norms. We join our allies in rejecting the idea that "might makes right.

On that last statement; does the irony not burn his tongue?

a_unique_person 22nd September 2020 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lurch (Post 13232852)
On that last statement; does the irony not burn his tongue?

Trump is an irony free zone

Captain_Swoop 22nd September 2020 05:18 PM

"They'll give him a shot of something , we want a drug test" -- Trump accuses Joe Biden of planning to take drugs before the debates.

Captain_Swoop 22nd September 2020 05:20 PM

Trump tells a Sir Story about Melanie

"I go home all the time, 'First Lady, how'd you like the crowd? 'Sir, I didn't see it. I didn't see it. I didn't see it Donald, I didn't see it.' Sometimes she'll call me Mr President, but she's only kidding, believe me."

Stacyhs 22nd September 2020 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13232858)
"They'll give him a shot of something , we want a drug test" -- Trump accuses Joe Biden of planning to take drugs before the debates.

Yeah, the resident FOX doctor is pushing the same nonsense.
Quote:

The president’s ridiculous claims, which he’s used to demand that Biden take a drug test before the debates, were given an air of legitimacy Monday night by Fox News medical contributor Dr. Marc Siegel, who wildly speculated that the former vice president is using speed and Adderall.

Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who has repeatedly suggested Biden is suffering from mental decline, once again took aim at the presidential hopeful on Monday night, mocking him for his latest verbal gaffe. In this instance, it was Biden mistakenly saying nearly 200 million Americans had died from the coronavirus, rather than 200,000.

“Who is his dealer?!” Carlson snickered. “A lot of people are asking this question.”

After playing a clip of the president accusing Biden of taking performance-enhancing drugs and challenging the ex-veep to get tested before next week’s presidential debate, the Fox News host noted that Biden “has not yet agreed” to be tested, before turning to Siegel.

“Tucker, imagine if President Trump said that, imagine how the wolves would be all over him if he made anything like that mistake,” the doctor responded. “And the word of course they use to cover this is ‘gaffe,’ but I have to tell you, it's time we stopped using the word ‘gaffe.’”

Pointing out that he hasn’t examined Biden and doesn’t “have a clinical diagnosis to make,” Siegel went on to deliver a diagnosis based on what he claimed were conversations with neurologists.

“And I want to put forth some ideas tonight, they’re not proof, they’re not even theories,” Siegel, who said earlier this year the “worst-case scenario” for the coronavirus would be the seasonal flu, declared. “But back in 1988 former Vice President Biden had two aneurysms clipped in his brain using surgery, surgical techniques, and he had a bleed. Studies show a 50 percent long-term cognitive problem.”

Siegel, who recently fawned over Trump’s ability to repeat the phrase “person, man, woman, camera, TV,” suggested that Biden may have suffered a “silent stroke” due to his atrial fibrillation and therefore was prescribed certain drugs.

“So now, President Trump says, ‘You know, we should have drug testing before debates,’ and I’m thinking why would he be saying that?” Siegel continued to speculate. “There’s a study that shows that for people who have mild cognitive thinking or memory problems, you know what helps? Speed.”

“You know what helps? Adderall, a drug that I prescribe,” the doctor added. “These drugs can help in low doses for short periods of time.”

Siegel wrapped up the wild segment by contrasting Trump’s demands for a drug test to attempts by the Olympics and professional sports to prevent doping, adding that they“want to make sure nobody takes advantage.”

Captain_Swoop 22nd September 2020 05:32 PM

"You can't give your wife a kiss goodnight. You have to wear a mask"
Well, that's what Menanie tells him.

Trump on protests
"They go out & buy tuna fish & soup, you know that, right? Goya, I hope. Good guy. Because they throw it. It's the perfect weight. Tuna fish, they can really rip it & it hits you. It's true. You can throw that sucker, you can put a curve on it."
"We want to go in, and we want to take over Portland"
He then mocks @AliVelshi again for getting shot with a rubber bullet "It's a beautiful sight"

Captain_Swoop 22nd September 2020 05:39 PM

“To combat the toxic Left-Wing propaganda in our schools, I announced last week that we are launching a new pro-American lesson plan for students called the 1776 Commission.”

Stacyhs 22nd September 2020 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13232860)
Trump tells a Sir Story about Melanie

"I go home all the time, 'First Lady, how'd you like the crowd? 'Sir, I didn't see it. I didn't see it. I didn't see it Donald, I didn't see it.' Sometimes she'll call me Mr President, but she's only kidding, believe me."

This is as true as the time he called her at home in DC to tell her about how upset he was not being able to go to the American cemetery in France. You know, the same trip where she was with him.

Captain_Swoop 22nd September 2020 05:55 PM

"They grabbed a guy - ‘I'm a reporter! I'm a reporter!' - ‘Get out of here!' They threw him aside like a bag of popcorn. But honestly, when you watch the crap we've all had to take it's actually a beautiful sight"-Trump glorifies violence against journos

Captain_Swoop 22nd September 2020 05:57 PM

"You know, NASA was an absolutely disaster. Grass was growing through the fairways" -- Trump has golf on the brain

Stacyhs 22nd September 2020 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13232890)
"They grabbed a guy - ‘I'm a reporter! I'm a reporter!' - ‘Get out of here!' They threw him aside like a bag of popcorn. But honestly, when you watch the crap we've all had to take it's actually a beautiful sight"-Trump glorifies violence against journos

Nah, he's not fanning the flames of hate or encouraging violence. Not at all.
I really do hate that POS.

Babbylonian 22nd September 2020 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13232860)
Trump tells a Sir Story about Melanie

"I go home all the time, 'First Lady, how'd you like the crowd? 'Sir, I didn't see it. I didn't see it. I didn't see it Donald, I didn't see it.' Sometimes she'll call me Mr President, but she's only kidding, believe me."

He's so self-deluded that he thinks we actually believe he and his gold digger are deeply in love and have little skits and games between them.

What his little story tells me: His wife has zero interest in looking at him when she doesn't absolutely have to, and she doesn't hide it.

varwoche 22nd September 2020 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13232874)
“To combat the toxic Left-Wing propaganda in our schools, I announced last week that we are launching a new pro-American lesson plan for students called the 1776 Commission.”

How very Taliban.

Norman Alexander 22nd September 2020 06:31 PM

Brownshirts Rally, then?

Giordano 22nd September 2020 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13232839)
Trump Tweets

A few weeks ago, I BANNED efforts to indoctrinate government employees with divisive and harmful sex and race-based ideologies. Today, I've expanded that ban to people and companies that do business...

...with our Country, the United States Military, Government Contractors, and Grantees. Americans should be taught to take PRIDE in our Great Country, and if you don’t, there’s nothing in it for you!

Wait, weren’t the top military bosses and contractors evil? Just about the time we switched from being at war with Oceania to Eurasia? Or something like that.

But there is no reason to point out Trumps inconsistencies. It is like pointing out water is wet. Did any of Trump’s supporters read 1984? Or ultimately did they never pick up the ideas in the book?

Bob001 22nd September 2020 10:35 PM

Ex-Pence security aide dishes on Trump.
Quote:

WASHINGTON — Olivia Troye, who played a key role in the Trump administration's coronavirus response as an aide to Vice President Mike Pence, says that President Donald Trump is "not actually looking out for" Americans in his handling of the pandemic.

In an interview with Andrea Mitchell airing Tuesday on "NBC Nightly News," Troye spoke about Trump "undermining" guidelines developed by the White House's coronavirus task force.

She cited, for example, the president’s decision to hold a rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, at the height of the pandemic during the summer, where he didn’t follow the advice of experts on protective measures, such as wearing a mask.

"He's not actually looking out for you," Troye said. "He's not looking out for these people. He's not looking out for them. He just wants you in that audience so he can have the camera shot of, you know, his fanfare and the people around him. But the truth is, he's putting those lives at risk.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...-aide-n1240683

It continues to astonish me that nobody -- as far as we know -- actually recorded some of their meetings with Trump. Unless everybody entering the Oval Office was wanded at the door, a small recorder would have been easy to conceal.

Stacyhs 22nd September 2020 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
“To combat the toxic Left-Wing propaganda in our schools, I announced last week that we are launching a new pro-American lesson plan for students called the 1776 Commission.”
Quote:

Originally Posted by varwoche (Post 13232908)
How very Taliban.

Trump is too stupid to realize that this is just his own MAGA version of what he's accusing the 1619 Project of doing: conservative propaganda vs liberal propaganda.

Stacyhs 22nd September 2020 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giordano (Post 13232947)
Wait, weren’t the top military bosses and contractors evil? Just about the time we switched from being at war with Oceania to Eurasia? Or something like that.

But there is no reason to point out Trumps inconsistencies. It is like pointing out water is wet. Did any of Trump’s supporters read 1984? Or ultimately did they never pick up the ideas in the book?

1984 was banned in several school districts as being 'pro-communist' and 'anti-government' including GA, AL, ID,and challenged in FL. See a common factor here?

Captain_Swoop 23rd September 2020 02:43 AM

Trump Tweets

With your VOTE, we are going to lift our nation to extraordinary new heights – we are going to turn the page forever on the failed political class – and we are going to Defend our Jobs, our Families, our Borders, and our treasured way of Life! http://vote.donaldjtrump.com

I did more in 47 months than Joe Biden did in 47 years!

I was honored to be back in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania with thousands of loyal, hardworking American Patriots. This election is a choice between Pennsylvania & China. If Biden wins, China wins. When we win, Pennsylvania Wins, and AMERICA WINS! #MAGA

Congratulations to @MattGaetz on the release of his new book, “Firebrand: Dispatches from the Front Lines of the MAGA Revolution.” Get your copy today!

Congratulations to @JudgeJeanine on the release of her new book, “DON’T LIE TO ME” which is now available. Get your copy today!

Aridas 23rd September 2020 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13233094)
Trump is too stupid to realize that this is just his own MAGA version of what he's accusing the 1619 Project of doing: conservative propaganda vs liberal propaganda.

I disagree. You seem to be assuming moral values and levels of honesty that Trump does not demonstrate to reach this conclusion. Again, it's worth remembering that Trump was literally taught to use Nazi tactics, very much including the Big Lie. I'd say that it's nigh certain that he knows quite well that he's applying inconsistent standards and is doing so quite intentionally.

As part of a larger theme, though... while it's not wrong to call Trump stupid, it's also worth remembering that a lot of the problematic things that he's done have far less to do with stupidity than they do with a set of values and tactics that, normally, can be called outright evil.

turingtest 23rd September 2020 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13232890)
"They grabbed a guy - ‘I'm a reporter! I'm a reporter!' - ‘Get out of here!' They threw him aside like a bag of popcorn. But honestly, when you watch the crap we've all had to take it's actually a beautiful sight"-Trump glorifies violence against journos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13232893)
Nah, he's not fanning the flames of hate or encouraging violence. Not at all.
I really do hate that POS.

Jesus ******* Christ. Well, Republicans in particular and Trumpkins in general can surely be proud- they will get that SC Justice to make the conservative majority they wanted, and all they had to do was to turn the U.S. into an endless episode of The Jerry Springer Show.

Captain_Swoop 23rd September 2020 04:21 AM

Trump Tweets

I hardly know Cindy McCain other than having put her on a Committee at her husband’s request. Joe Biden was John McCain’s lapdog. So many BAD decisions on Endless Wars & the V.A., which I brought from a horror show to HIGH APPROVAL. Never a fan of John. Cindy can have Sleepy Joe!

(This was in response to the following tweet)
Cindy Mccain
@cindymccain
· 11h
Joe and I don't always agree on the issues, and I know he and John certainly had some passionate arguments, but he is a good and honest man. He will lead us with dignity.

Tero 23rd September 2020 04:27 AM

white people have good genes!
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/22/polit...ics/index.html

In fact we have defective melanin production, in order to allow more vitamin D production.
https://www.longdom.org/open-access/...ini-review.pdf

Distracted1 23rd September 2020 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turingtest (Post 13233269)
Jesus ******* Christ. Well, Republicans in particular and Trumpkins in general can surely be proud- they will get that SC Justice to make the conservative majority they wanted, and all they had to do was to turn the U.S. into an endless episode of The Jerry Springer Show.

Indeed.
I find your characterization of the current state of the U.S. as "an episode of Jerry Springer" to be spot on.

I feel like we are on an endless loop of re-runs, and the "off" switch is encrypted.

Captain_Swoop 23rd September 2020 04:53 AM

Trump Retweeted

Judicial Watch Scales
@JudicialWatch
Judicial Watch has filed an official complaint with the Office of Congressional Ethics about Rep. Ilhan Omar potential violations of law. Let us know if you agree that Rep. #IlhanOmar SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED by signing the petition HERE:

Norman Alexander 23rd September 2020 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13233314)
Trump Retweeted

Judicial Watch Scales
@JudicialWatch
Judicial Watch has filed an official complaint with the Office of Congressional Ethics about Rep. Ilhan Omar potential violations of law. Let us know if you agree that Rep. #IlhanOmar SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED by signing the petition HERE:

Care to identify what she has done that has you all hot and bothered?

Or are you really desperate to get a REAL heavy duty suit for harassment...

Captain_Swoop 23rd September 2020 05:22 AM

Trump Retweeted

New York Post
@nypost
Rep. Matt Gaetz: Bloomberg may face criminal probe for paying felons' fines https://trib.al/ziZLTlE

Fast Eddie B 23rd September 2020 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giordano (Post 13232947)
Did any of Trump’s supporters read 1984?

Or read or watch “The Handmaid’s Tale”?

Then again, we might be dealing with people who think Gilead would be a nice place to live!

Horatius 23rd September 2020 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie B (Post 13233358)
Or read or watch “The Handmaid’s Tale”?

Then again, we might be dealing with people who think Gilead would be a nice place to live!



That's the essential problem with pointing to stories like this as a cautionary tale - if there weren't people who really would think it was a nice place to live in real life, we wouldn't need the cautionary tale in the first place.

Armitage72 23rd September 2020 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13233325)
Care to identify what she has done that has you all hot and bothered?

Or are you really desperate to get a REAL heavy duty suit for harassment...


I tried a quick Google search, but based on the search results, they've apparently filed complaints every few months for the last couple years. I couldn't be bothered to narrow it down.

Aridas 23rd September 2020 06:49 AM

To poke at something as a warning -

Quote:


“We are accustomed to choosing electors by popular vote, but nothing in the Constitution says it has to be that way. Article II provides that each state shall appoint electors ‘in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct.’ Since the late 19th century, every state has ceded the decision to its voters. Even so, the Supreme Court affirmed in Bush v. Gore that a state ‘can take back the power to appoint electors.’ How and when a state might do so has not been tested for well over a century.”

“Trump may test this. According to sources in the Republican Party at the state and national levels, the Trump campaign is discussing contingency plans to bypass election results and appoint loyal electors in battleground states where Republicans hold the legislative majority. With a justification based on claims of rampant fraud, Trump would ask state legislators to set aside the popular vote and exercise their power to choose a slate of electors directly. The longer Trump succeeds in keeping the vote count in doubt, the more pressure legislators will feel to act before the safe-harbor deadline expires.”

Captain_Swoop 23rd September 2020 06:52 AM

Trump repeats his lie Mexico is paying for the wall: "They said, 'Yeah, but Mexico is not paying for it.' But they ARE paying for it. Mexico is paying for the wall at the border you know, all those trucks that go back and forth"

Does he think they are paying some kind of toll that goes towards the wall?

The Don 23rd September 2020 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13233423)
Trump repeats his lie Mexico is paying for the wall: "They said, 'Yeah, but Mexico is not paying for it.' But they ARE paying for it. Mexico is paying for the wall at the border you know, all those trucks that go back and forth"

Does he think they are paying some kind of toll that goes towards the wall?

Who knows, ?

His supporters probably think they do.

Flat out lying has worked so far.

BobTheCoward 23rd September 2020 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aridas (Post 13233419)

Rules are rules.

The Great Zaganza 23rd September 2020 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobTheCoward (Post 13233471)
Rules are rules.



"- now let them enforce them."

BobTheCoward 23rd September 2020 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13233479)
"- now let them enforce them."

Which is what the states would do by assigning electors.

Aridas 23rd September 2020 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armitage72 (Post 13233403)
I tried a quick Google search, but based on the search results, they've apparently filed complaints every few months for the last couple years. I couldn't be bothered to narrow it down.

IIRC, Judicial Watch files a heck of a lot of things that have very little basis in reality.


To poke elsewhere as a point of potential interest... It looks like Facebook is taking actions to disrupt and undermine attempts to fight climate change. That's including, to poke at a tweet -

Quote:

So Facebook censors climate scientists like ⁦@KHayhoe⁩, marking their content “political,” while allowing disinformation from oil industry front groups to circulate as “opinion?” This is not a fact-checking policy.

Aridas 23rd September 2020 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobTheCoward (Post 13233482)
Which is what the states would do by assigning electors.

Indeed, the rules are the rules, which is exactly why the Trump campaign and Republican Party should be taken very seriously when they're talking about invoking rules in a technically legal way to seize power in ways that much of the public doesn't even know is a real possibility.


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