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ponderingturtle 9th November 2020 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JayUtah (Post 13284612)
Voter fraud in the past fifty years has almost never occurred. That's stuff like casting someone else's absentee ballot, trying to vote more than once, voting when you're not registered or eligible, voting in a district other than where you live. The major university study that passed quickly under my eyes in the past few days (murky, so I don't recall citations or accurate details) identified on the order of 1,500 cases of voter fraud or attempted voter fraud in 2 billion votes cast. For any given vote in the 2020 Presidential election, that's a prior probably of p < 7.5 × 10-7 that the vote was cast fraudulently.

He hasn't been charged with it but it was committed by Derek Chauvin by voting in Florida while residing in Minnesota. I would expect there is more voter fraud of that sort voting at your second home not your primary residence than people expect. Though of course this would only favor people who own second homes so there is likely some party bias in that.

eerok 9th November 2020 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13288123)
Its someone's opinion.

As are most statements seen above.

Reality will prevail. There are no viable legal challenges to this election, just a mentally ill loser stirring up the rabble.

You seem not to realize that some opinions are better than others.

Will you accept reality when it bops you on the head?

eerok 9th November 2020 02:16 PM

On the subject of opinions, I'm basing mine on people like Ben Ginsberg, former Republican lawyer and election expert with 38 years of experience in such matters. He thinks Trump has no legitimate legal claim against the election.

But hey, Bubba's got some bozo on Facebook.

Bubba 9th November 2020 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by eerok (Post 13288256)
...some bozo on Facebook.


..... has opined:

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The people who were okay with Facebook and Twitter fact checking Posts ... should have no problem with a Supreme Court Judge fact-checking the votes. Meh, let them have their day. Judges follow the constitution to enforce the law.

Bubba 9th November 2020 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by eerok (Post 13288234)
Reality will prevail. There are no viable legal challenges to this election, just a mentally ill loser stirring up the rabble.

You seem not to realize that some opinions are better than others.

Will you accept reality when it bops you on the head?


Do you accept reality of footage of a pre-pubescent girl abruptly pulling herself away from Biden's grasp as he touches her breast with the fingers of his left hand, after sniffing her hair?

Bubba 9th November 2020 03:01 PM

Come to think of it, does it take an election conspiracy to never air those videos of Biden sniffing and fondling girls and women (not to mention burying Tara Reade's account)...??

dudalb 9th November 2020 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13288109)
I see "Avoid the material. Attack the source"

Yeah, like the reliability and track record of a source should not be taken into account when evaluating a source.

eerok 9th November 2020 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13288315)
Do you accept reality of footage of a pre-pubescent girl abruptly pulling herself away from Biden's grasp as he touches her breast with the fingers of his left hand, after sniffing her hair?

That's not reality. That's just fevered imaginations at work.

eerok 9th November 2020 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13288309)
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The people who were okay with Facebook and Twitter fact checking Posts ... should have no problem with a Supreme Court Judge fact-checking the votes. Meh, let them have their day. Judges follow the constitution to enforce the law.

That's a non sequitur, but I agree with the second part. Let Trump have his day. Legally he can throw all the silly tantrums at the courts that he can dream up. He'll look like a spoiled brat and an idiot, but in fact that's his right. I'd be surprised if SCOTUS will touch this with a ten-foot pole, though.

Dr. Keith 9th November 2020 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13288123)
Its someone's opinion.

As are most statements seen above.

That opinion contained a lot of assertions of fact. One might say claims of fact. That is where the hearty laughing is aimed, the lack of reality upon which that opinion is formed.

Luckily, Trump will have his day in court. So far that has been fruitful for the attorneys, but not Trump. I wonder how many attorneys involved in these legal wrangling will one day make it to the Supreme Court?

Bubba 9th November 2020 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by eerok (Post 13288343)

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by Bubba View Post
Do you accept reality of footage of a pre-pubescent girl abruptly pulling herself away from Biden's grasp as he touches her breast with the fingers of his left hand, after sniffing her hair?

That's not reality. That's just fevered imaginations at work.


It is quite clear that Biden's victim pulls away from his grasp when his fingers touch her breast.

At 0.32.

Youtube of course has censored thousands of uploads of this footage. One reason they gave had to with "sexual exploitation of children"....Indeed.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/5IYFOIYTQKoH/

Bubba 9th November 2020 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith (Post 13288375)
That opinion contained a lot of assertions of fact. One might say claims of fact.

Same as seen here every day. Some of the claims of fact, about blocking observers in PA, were proven by footage from inside and outside the counting room.

If the SC accepts it, they, not the MSM, and not some obnoxious clueless forum clown will decide.


Time will tell. Then it might be over.

eerok 9th November 2020 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13288379)
It is quite clear that Biden's victim pulls away from his grasp when his fingers touch her breast.

At 0.32.

Youtube of course has censored thousands of uploads of this footage. One reason they gave had to with "sexual exploitation of children"....Indeed.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/5IYFOIYTQKoH/

I saw a video of Trump dry-humping an American flag. He had his hands all over the breast area, too.

Bubba 9th November 2020 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by eerok (Post 13288398)
I saw a video of Trump dry-humping an American flag. He had his hands all over the breast area, too.


Please provide link, or it didnt happen


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by Bubba View Post
It is quite clear that Biden's victim pulls away from his grasp when his fingers touch her breast.

At 0.32.

Youtube of course has censored thousands of uploads of this footage. One reason they gave had to with "sexual exploitation of children"....Indeed.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/5IYFOIYTQKoH/

Resume 9th November 2020 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13288123)
Its someone's opinion.

No no no, claims are not evidence; one provides evidence for claims. You continually get this backwards.

eerok 9th November 2020 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13288400)
Please provide link, or it didnt happen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE7peOmlTRk

Bubba 9th November 2020 03:54 PM

F Y I

Fox News as taken Judge Jeanine off the air because she was defending President Trump and she was saying their is clear signs of voter fraud. Fox News is No longer a fair and balanced network, they are now to me a Nazi socialist media party network for the left. Fox was the first network to call that Biden won Arizona without all the votes even being counted. Fox and Social media are working overtime squelching free speech, free thought and true undisputable facts with signed affidavits showing rampant voter fraud happening across our Nation. Networks and the social media expect us to just be quiet and to except this bogus election, this is only because they think of themselves as Gods and what they say and think is what we all must except.

-- seen on that internet

Bubba 9th November 2020 03:56 PM

I saw a video of Trump dry-humping an American flag. He had his hands all over the breast area, too.

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Originally Posted by eerok (Post 13288413)



Oh my goodness its true, exactly as you described

zorro99 9th November 2020 03:56 PM

Hammer and Scorecard
 
He tricked the Bush administration into thinking he could detect terrorist signals in al Jazeera broadcasts. Now Dennis Montgomery has a new set of believers.

Will Sommer

Updated Nov. 09, 2020 3:14AM ET / Published Nov. 08, 2020 9:04PM ET

As Donald Trump refuses to concede the election, some of his most loyal allies have become obsessed with a bizarre new conspiracy theory about the race, insisting that Trump only lost the election because a deep-state supercomputer named “Hammer” and a computer program named “Scorecard” were used to change the ballot count.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/infamo...claim?ref=home

Resume 9th November 2020 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13288420)
.

-- seen on that internet

From where did you plagiarize this?

eerok 9th November 2020 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13288420)
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Fox News is No longer a fair and balanced network, they are now to me a Nazi socialist media party network for the left.

I think they meant that Fox News is now no longer a Nazi fascist media party network for the right, but I'm not convinced that Fox has smartened up all that much.

zorro99 9th November 2020 04:25 PM

Herschel Walker
@HerschelWalker
·
Nov 8
Anyone using HAMMER SCORECARD to alter voting in our America election should be prosecuted.

https://mobile.twitter.com/i/events/1308626736066617344

Matthew Ellard 9th November 2020 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13288420)
Fox News as taken Judge Jeanine off the air because she was defending President Trump

She went on air drunk as a skunk, seven months ago. Murdoch kept her on when she had a purpose promoting Trump. That purpose has come to an end. There is no point in Fox losing sponsors, or being exposed to litigation to keep a pro-Trump person on air. Trump's gone.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...l-difficulties

Axxman300 9th November 2020 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13288327)
Come to think of it, does it take an election conspiracy to never air those videos of Biden sniffing and fondling girls and women (not to mention burying Tara Reade's account)...??

Trump and his crew have lowered the bar to the point where unless we have 4k video of Biden hunting, cooking, and eating humans he's still a viable candidate.

Resume 9th November 2020 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Axxman300 (Post 13288613)
Trump and his crew have lowered the bar to the point where unless we have 4k video of Biden hunting, cooking, and eating humans he's still a viable candidate.

Worse. Trump and his crew lowered the bar so much Trump was actually elected president, once.

Bubba 9th November 2020 08:16 PM

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by Bubba View Post


-- seen on that internet


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Originally Posted by Resume (Post 13288430)
From where did you plagiarize this?


Like it says


"seen on that internet"

Another FB opinion, as if it matters

Why would you care anyway?

Resume 9th November 2020 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13288797)
Why would you care anyway?

Because of how dishonest it makes your posts appear. Or rather, how much more dishonest.

Bubba 9th November 2020 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by eerok (Post 13288452)
I think they meant that Fox News is now no longer a Nazi fascist media party network for the right, but I'm not convinced that Fox has smartened up all that much.




Oodles of conservatives are quitting fox and choosing to newsmax.

Michele Malkin is sharp. Diamond and Silk are smart and entertaining.

Y'all must step up and be there or be square.

Craig4 9th November 2020 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13288109)
I see "Avoid the material. Attack the source"

I'd be happy to attack the source if you would provide one.

Bubba 9th November 2020 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Resume (Post 13288801)
Because of how dishonest it makes your posts appear. Or rather, how much more dishonest.



Said the self appointed majorette of the *Bubba is dishonest narrative* Pep Squad.

Like all fake narratives, it requires regular maintenance.

Bubba 9th November 2020 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 13288803)
I'd be happy to attack the source if you would provide one.


I usually do so 75%, excluding random FB comments y'all need to see, and items from email.


But there is the cult narrative again. "Bubba does not provide sources"


There actually was a source provided, associated with:


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by Bubba View Post
I see "Avoid the material. Attack the source"

Resume 9th November 2020 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13288805)
Are you . . .

Correct in my assessment of your posting history?

Yes, yes I am.

Pretending other's words are your own, posting without attributions or quotations is inherently dishonest. Period.

Resume 9th November 2020 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13288805)

Like all fake narratives, it requires regular maintenance.

Maybe if you didn't advance false narratives and get called on them, you wouldn't have to maintain them.

Bubba 9th November 2020 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Resume (Post 13288826)
Correct in my assessment of your posting history?

Yes, yes I am.

Pretending other's words are your own, posting without attributions or quotations is inherently dishonest. Period.


There it is again. Assuming that posting words must mean that I pretend other's words are my own.

Whatever floats your narrative.

Watching you fail (to give up your chew toy) is incentive enough for posting random words from FB.

Remember, arguing with strangers online is a must do hobby because we all live forever. (Tell the others who dont know)

Resume 9th November 2020 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13288849)
There it is again. Assuming I pretend other's words are my own.

Nope, it has been demonstrated when you went back and added attribution to some of your unattributed posts.

More dishonesty.

Bubba 9th November 2020 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Resume (Post 13288852)
Nope, it has been demonstrated when you went back and added attribution to some of your unattributed posts.

More dishonesty.

Thats your opinion on why a poster would do so.

IOW your "Claim"

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

There are other (non-narrative friendly) reasons for editing, beyond your radar's horizon.
Dear Abaddon was also fond of shrieking that "edited" means dishonesty. (more narrative-slaving).
He seems to share your radar's horizon.

Fundies of all stripes hold that everyone should observe their rules for living. You are not skeptics.

There is actually a brilliant written piece addressing your horizon. It explains disparate vision. I will post it, when I have enough popcorn set aside.

Resume 9th November 2020 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13288863)
"Claim" (bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha).

Nope, myself and others have witnessed your postings without attribution and have called you on it, causing you to correct those posts.

More dishonesty on your part. You are almost too dishonest for anyone to take you seriously.

Bubba 9th November 2020 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Resume (Post 13288864)
Nope, myself and others have witnessed your postings without attribution and have called you on it, causing you to correct those posts.

More dishonesty on your part. You are almost too dishonest for anyone to take you seriously.



of course, credule

Resume 9th November 2020 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13288935)
of course . . .

Yes, as I and others have demonstrated.

smartcooky 9th November 2020 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Ellard (Post 13288510)
She went on air drunk as a skunk, seven months ago. Murdoch kept her on when she had a purpose promoting Trump. That purpose has come to an end. There is no point in Fox losing sponsors, or being exposed to litigation to keep a pro-Trump person on air. Trump's gone.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...l-difficulties

How that POS Pirro ever became a judge in the first place is beyond my understanding. She really is a nasty, nasty piece or work.

Oh, and Faux News cut away from a press briefing by Kayleigh McEnany, after she accused Democrats of rigging the election
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...or-votes-spiel

And they have also criticised him for not conceding
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ede-with-grace

Looks like Faux are turning on Trump, and that will be a bitter blow.

They will soon be "The Enemy of the People".


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