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Craig4 2nd March 2018 02:11 PM

Yeah, you can take a story to the bank when The Hair calls it fake news.

dudalb 2nd March 2018 02:19 PM

One commentator thinks that some of the people who have stayed on in hopes of somehow containing Trump and talking him out of his worse ideas will leaved in droves because his rejecting of the advice of almost all his advisors on Tariffs, means he will state going by his "gut feelings: more and more,and the only thing to do is jump ship and wait until the after the inevitable shipwreck to salvage what can be salvaged.

Cl1mh4224rd 2nd March 2018 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12202443)
And people though that Hitler's rants against the Jews were just for political purposes.
I have come to think that if someone says bigoted things and acts like a bigot, it is safest to think he is a bigot.


Hell, even if they aren't, why would they stop doing something that's getting them exactly what they want?

Hitler may very well have not hated Jews (and hid it pretty well), but if he was convinced that pandering is what got him the popularity and power that he was seeking, of course he would run with it. At some point it just doesn't matter what his actual opinion of Jews may have been.

So, yep... If a person's outward behavior is consistently in line with a certain personality type, with little to no evidence of their "true" personality, it's in the world's best interest to treat that person as the personality type they present to us.

quadraginta 2nd March 2018 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12202214)
Surrounds himself with sychophants who are afraid to disagree with him.
Increasingly Isolated from all but his his most boot licking sycophants.
Rejecting reality when it clashes with his ideological obssesions.
Finding "traitors" everywhere.
Turning on people who were once his allies.
Now who does that remind you of in his last days?


Whether the similarity has merit or not, I find that part about "his last days" to be pleasant, somehow.

quadraginta 2nd March 2018 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12203315)
Trump says the reporting on McMasters imminent departure are "fake news".
Given the record,he will be gone within a month.....

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 12203363)
Yeah, you can take a story to the bank when The Hair calls it fake news.

"Never believe anything until it is officially denied."
An old adage revitalized.

The Great Zaganza 2nd March 2018 09:10 PM

So Kelly is now the new Cheney?
Looks like he controls everything except Twitter...

ponderingturtle 5th March 2018 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 12202295)
You give the lot of them too much credit for maturity.

Speculating: Her boyfriend was canned. Probably led to some tension. Trump's pressures are mounting. He's been yelling at everyone, surely he shouted at Hicks. She's been grumbling not used to not being in a snowflake role. She gets back from the Mueller interrogation, it's leaked about the admission of white lies, Trump is his unable to control himself mood yells some more at poor little Hicks and she says, fine I quit.

That was congress not Mueller interview.

The Great Zaganza 5th March 2018 11:54 PM

The only thing keeping Mattis in the White House is the fact that Trump can't find an alternative candidate who will help him ban Transgender people from serving in the US forces.

Stacko 6th March 2018 03:46 PM

Gary Cohn is resigning.

d4m10n 6th March 2018 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacko (Post 12207676)

Who had Cohn in the deadpool?

varwoche 6th March 2018 05:28 PM

My current pick is Kelly.

Scaramucci, who is still a Trump cultist, recently referred to Kelly as General Jackass, among other sharp criticisms. And it's being reported that Trump is complicit in this outburst.

Norman Alexander 6th March 2018 05:46 PM

Do we keep a running list of all the White House staff who started with Donny in Jan 2017, and strike out their names as they go? Someone who likes to keep book on these things might like to offer odds on each one as well.

Cl1mh4224rd 6th March 2018 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12207797)
Do we keep a running list of all the White House staff who started with Donny in Jan 2017, and strike out their names as they go? Someone who likes to keep book on these things might like to offer odds on each one as well.


The Daily Show is sort of keeping track: https://www.facebook.com/thedailysho...type=3&theater

If that doesn't work, here's a direct link to the image: https://scontent.fagc1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...8c&oe=5B3ABE56

Norman Alexander 6th March 2018 06:21 PM

Oh deary deary me, Kellyanne.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-says-watchdog

dudalb 6th March 2018 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12207831)

She will get a promotion and a raise.

Loss Leader 6th March 2018 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 12207761)
Who had Cohn in the deadpool?


That would be me:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loss Leader (Post 12203156)
McMaster and Cohn will be the next ones out.


Once Trump announced the tariffs, Cohn was a dead man walking.

Norman Alexander 7th March 2018 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12207850)
She will get a promotion and a raise.

So she WILL be the next to leave!

Foolmewunz 7th March 2018 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12207831)

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12207850)
She will get a promotion and a raise.

She's been admonished for promoting Ivanka's products, then several stores stopped carrying Ivanka's line. Then she got behind Roy Moore and he lost.

Am I wrong in wanting to send her into several flipp-able districts. "Oh, and wear the stupid red-white-and-blue coat, wontcha?"

crescent 7th March 2018 04:00 PM

Not quite the White House, but the Chief of the U.S. Forest Service retired about an hour ago, effective immediately with no warning.

Previously in his USFS career, he had done this:

Quote:

“Initiated prior to 2005, the sexual misconduct involved a two-year affair between Mr. Tooke, then Deputy Forest Supervisor in Florida and a student from the SCEP program, who was newly converted to a permanent position in Florida, where Mr. Tooke was assigned,” the retired employee wrote Aug. 31, 2017.
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“During his two-year course of sexual misconduct and affair, Mr. Tooke made repeated calls to the Regional Director of Communications and the Forest Communications Staff Officer urging them to create a new Communications position on the Ocala District in Florida. Mr. Tooke further urged the Regional Director to make placement for the young female employee. The female employee involved in the affair was promoted into the newly created position,” the letter stated.
She was his subordinate - not a direct report, under Tooke's chain of command. Some of the people he pressured to create positions for her were also under his chain of command. This was well known and publicized before they appointed him. Yet, they still brought him out of retirement to put him in charge of the agency.

Trebuchet 7th March 2018 06:11 PM

Can't really blame Trump for that one, I think.

crescent 7th March 2018 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12208977)
Can't really blame Trump for that one, I think.

Why not?

Tooke's transgressions were well known when he was appointed as Chief by the Trump administration.

Craig4 7th March 2018 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12207850)
She will get a promotion and a raise.

Probably. The current administration doesn't think anything as mundane as the law applies to it.

TheL8Elvis 8th March 2018 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Loss Leader (Post 12203156)
This fits Trump's modus operandi. Reportedly, he hates firing people. He sort of freezes them out and then has a subordinate tell them they're not welcome anymore. It's bizarre, though, that he can't even have an honest conversation with his own daughter.

I'm not saying this rumor's true. McMaster and Cohn will be the next ones out.

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 12207761)
Who had Cohn in the deadpool?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loss Leader (Post 12207853)
That would be me:

:bigclap

Trebuchet 8th March 2018 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by crescent (Post 12209002)
Why not?

Tooke's transgressions were well known when he was appointed as Chief by the Trump administration.

Oh, ok. I had the misapprehension that he was already there.

dudalb 12th March 2018 12:03 PM

Sec. of Education DeVos might be on the list for failure to embrace Trump's "Arm School Teachers" initiative with enthusiasm combined with her terrible, embrassing performance on Meet the Press yesterday,which has White House Officials concerned.

Norman Alexander 12th March 2018 12:57 PM

DeVos won't go. Yet, anyway. She represents the evangelical vote which are about the only block Donny hasn't completely betrayed and insulted in public yet.

Hellbound 12th March 2018 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12214998)
DeVos won't go. Yet, anyway. She represents the evangelical vote which are about the only block Donny hasn't completely betrayed and insulted in public yet.

Well, he has, by metaphorically taking a big ole dump on most of those ten commandments, but that block has it's blinders firmly in place so that's okay.

Stacko 12th March 2018 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12214923)
Sec. of Education DeVos might be on the list for failure to embrace Trump's "Arm School Teachers" initiative with enthusiasm combined with her terrible, embrassing performance on Meet the Press yesterday,which has White House Officials concerned.

She's currently bragging on twitter that test scores in Michigan declined after her preferred policies were put in place. 50 Senators and the Vice President voted to confirm this clueless clown.

Craig4 12th March 2018 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12214923)
Sec. of Education DeVos might be on the list for failure to embrace Trump's "Arm School Teachers" initiative with enthusiasm combined with her terrible, embrassing performance on Meet the Press yesterday,which has White House Officials concerned.

I gather she completely screwed the neighbor's dog on "60 Minutes" too.

Trebuchet 12th March 2018 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 12215259)
I gather she completely screwed the neighbor's dog on "60 Minutes" too.

Was it called "Stormy"?

alfaniner 13th March 2018 05:47 AM

TILLERSON OUT!!!

TheL8Elvis 13th March 2018 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loss Leader (Post 12203156)
This fits Trump's modus operandi. Reportedly, he hates firing people. He sort of freezes them out and then has a subordinate tell them they're not welcome anymore. It's bizarre, though, that he can't even have an honest conversation with his own daughter.

I'm not saying this rumor's true. McMaster and Cohn will be the next ones out.

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Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 12215692)
TILLERSON OUT!!!

No second round of applause for Loss Leader. :(

Still breaking news.

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2018/03/1...ate-tillerson/

CIA Director Mike Pompeo will replace Tillerson.

The Great Zaganza 13th March 2018 05:53 AM

I understand that Putin didn't like Romney as Secretary of State, but does he really prefer Pompeo over Tillerson?
maybe Trump should ask his boss before this staff decision?

ponderingturtle 13th March 2018 05:59 AM

Good to see Trump still stands by his catch phrase.

CapelDodger 13th March 2018 06:17 AM

Tillerson knew the risk he was taking when he bad-mouthed Putin over the Skripal case. Respect is due for doing it anyway, I think.

Stacko 13th March 2018 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CapelDodger (Post 12215718)
Tillerson knew the risk he was taking when he bad-mouthed Putin over the Skripal case. Respect is due for doing it anyway, I think.

I'm surprised he survived calling Trump a moron.

Trebuchet 13th March 2018 06:52 AM

And someone called John McEntee, over his security clearance. The Best People!

Crossbow 13th March 2018 07:14 AM

Gee whiz!

Rex Tillerson has finally got the boot and I am surprised that it has taken this long.

And by the way, due to the numerous State Department resignations in the last several months I sure hope that the last person to leave the State Department building will remember to turn out the lights.

alfaniner 13th March 2018 08:06 AM

Tillerson even got the "He's a good man -- I like him" routine, but after the fact this time.

quadraginta 13th March 2018 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12215765)
And someone called John McEntee, over his security clearance. The Best People!


Am I missing something here?

As more and more people get booted out of the White House because of problems with getting their security clearances. shouldn't that make keeping Ivanka and Jared even more difficult?

The_Animus 13th March 2018 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12215765)
And someone called John McEntee, over his security clearance. The Best People!

Being investigated for financial crimes, so they fire him and escort him out of the White House but then make him a senior campaign advisor....

Giordano 13th March 2018 08:26 AM

Apparently John McEntee made certain that Trump always had markers for autographs , delivered messages to him at the White House, and last weekend made certain the clocks in the White House were "sprung forward" for daylight savings time (https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-...red-1520945928). My God- Trump couldn't even hire a go-fer who didn't have serious issues!

Well, at least Mr. McEntee is now free to find a less demeaning job- assuming he stays clear of a conviction and prison.

quadraginta 13th March 2018 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Animus (Post 12215872)
Being investigated for financial crimes, so they fire him and escort him out of the White House but then make him a senior campaign advisor....


It says a lot about the ethical and moral character of the Trump campaign apparatus, but nothing we didn't already know from past performance.

pgwenthold 13th March 2018 08:43 AM

OK, Tillerson puts out a press release supporting the UK conclusions about the source of the toxin and condemns Russia for their involvement, and suddenly gets canned.

How can Congress let this go unchecked?

Stacko 13th March 2018 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 12215907)
OK, Tillerson puts out a press release supporting the UK conclusions about the source of the toxin and condemns Russia for their involvement, and suddenly gets canned.

How can Congress let this go unchecked?

Because they're aiding and abetting.

Trebuchet 13th March 2018 08:54 AM

It would appear to have been in the works for at least a little while since David Dennison already had noms for SOSUS and CIA lined up.

phiwum 13th March 2018 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 12215907)
OK, Tillerson puts out a press release supporting the UK conclusions about the source of the toxin and condemns Russia for their involvement, and suddenly gets canned.

How can Congress let this go unchecked?

Tillerson was told last Friday that he would be fired, so I think that his comments on Russia are irrelevant here.

jimbob 13th March 2018 09:42 AM

The BBC World Service introduced the Tillerson Story with, "it's been almost 7 full days since the last high-level aide left the White House..."

varwoche 13th March 2018 09:48 AM

It seems like only yesterday when reports of Tillerson's pending ouster was labeled "fake news" by the Liar-in-Chief.

tyr_13 13th March 2018 09:49 AM

Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked, have been sacked.


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