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Edit: It's been a couple of days since Gingervytes logged in. I'd love to hear about Flat Earth mythology from an actual believer. If Gingervytes is an actual Flat Earther instead of just pretending to be one they might be able to provide that feedback. |
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... Well, one of their problems. :rolleyes: Hans |
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There's a whole lot of contained pressure.
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The conspiracy theorists, of course, will be all over the fact that they towed a diesel along for the ride. Sorry, gang, for apparently having broken the thread by PM-ing Gingervytes the arithmetic he "couldn't find". He's probably still trying to find a way to say he didn't get it. |
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It would, if it also included the sun sliding closer to the center then farther away on an annual cycle. The animation as it is depicts an equinox. (And, um, some other moving circular thing that definitely isn't the moon.) |
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If there is a patch of gas expanding in a vacuum and there is an object nearby, will the gas transfer any momentum to the object when it reaches it? If not, why not? |
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1 May 2019 Gingervytes: How did the Curiosity rover get to Mars through the vacuum of space? 1 May 2019 Gingervytes: Explain how the course changes of the Rosetta spacecraft worked as predicted by rocket physics. 2 May 2019 Gingervytes: How do astronauts maneuver in EVA at the ISS using rockets if rockets do not work in space? 3 May 2019 Gingervytes: If rockets do not work in space: How were the orbits of the Galileo 5 & 6 satellites altered with rockets? How are orbit changes for other satellites done? How are orbit adjustments doen for the ISS, e.g. to avoid space junk? 6 May 2019 Gingervytes: What evidence would you accept to show that rockets work in a vacuum? 10 May 2019 Gingervytes: How did astronauts get to the Hubble telescope and repair it? There were several Hubble Servicing Missions. We might have a paranoid delusion that Hubble was launched with faults and some way of fixing them without servicing missions. Add a paranoid delusion that Hubble was launched with concealed instrumsts that were somehow deployed to become the new ones added by service missions. Or a really paranoid delusion of Hubble not existing (Hubble data tended to be confirmed by later Earth based telescopes) :p! |
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Shame on you. |
I've finally caught up with this thread and wow. This is destined to be one of the classics.
The number of people who would need to be involved in this coverup is astronomical. Millions - probably billions. And every one of them would have to be complicit and keep their mouth shut about it. No whistleblowers, not careless offhand remarks to friends or family, no leaks. Do you know what the probability of that would be? If this theory is true, the only people who aren't willingly in on the conspiracy are those few thousands of flat earthers. Everybody else has to be complicit. Astounding. |
Pretty sure at least half the flat earthers have to be in on it too.
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What about the maybe trillions of dollars spent building rockets and their launch facilities around the world. A massive accounting conspiracy to cover that up and no one leaked it over the last almost 60 years!
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Sure, to claim that a flat earth is accelerating upward at 9.9 m/s/s it is easy to claim that this replicates gravity. However, this has consequences. If the "disc" is so accelerating, then we gain 9.8 m/s of speed every second. Thus the disc gains 9.8 x 60 = 588 m/s every minute. and 588 x 60 = 35280 ms/s every hour. Then in a year, we gain 35280 x 24 x 365 = 309052800 m/s per year. In other words, from a standing start of 0 the disc would reach a speed of 309052800 m/s in one year. I see a problem brewing. So how long has the earth been accelerating like this? Well let us be nuttily generous. What is the very lowest claim for the age of the Earth? That would be the Young Earth Creationist of 6 to 10 thousand years. Take the lowest of 6,000 years being generous again. The discs current speed is thus 6,000 x 309052800 = 1854316800000 m/s. 1,854,316,800,000 m/s. Is our current speed given the disc is only 6,000 years old. 299,792,458 m/s. Is the speed of light. Anyone see the problem? (beyond the rather obvious idiocy that the disc is motoring at 6819 times the speed of light right now as a minimum). The next quibble is that one has arbitrarily selected 6,000 years as the age of the earth and that invalidates the numbers. Sure. Want an older Earth? That just makes things worse. Want a younger Earth? Well now you are in a world of hurt because you have to claim that everything is false and faked including the bible an every other "holy" book ever written. Or every civilisation that ever existed. Well, it means that all of the planets must be accelerating in the same direction and rate as the disc. |
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So what? Why should anyone care whether or not you think rockets work in space? |
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Nothing is a barrier when science is a lie. |
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A huge conspiracy involving everybody involved in astronomy, rockets, airline industry, communications, and so on. Probably also including everybody claiming to live in Australia. I wonder: who is paying for all that? Is it worth that much in order to "control" the unsuspecting populace?
And now we are at it: How do the Australian Flat-Earthers argue? |
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That's as close as Canberra ever gets, by the way. Almost snowing. |
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I think I would sue if they made me depend on a flat-earther for my education. |
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We're actually at the beginning of our very own (South) Polar Vortex right now, but it's due to get better shortly, before it starts getting really cold in June and July. |
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I want to travel to Australia and/or New Zealand but I've yet to decide if I want to experience x-mas in the summer or winter in July. Both things just blow my mind... :D |
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Earth (and anything else) can indeed accelerate indefinitely, because it will never quite reach the speed of light. ... So there ... Hans |
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