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TahiniBinShawarma 24th October 2020 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gulliver Foyle (Post 13268730)
No, Bobulinski being invited to make a statement under caution or face arrest and charge changes nothing, really.

Motivation is clear with him, Tony Bobulinski found out through the Senate report a few weeks ago that Hunter and Jim Biden had a side deal with CEFC China Energy, and he wasn't happy about it.

Bogative 24th October 2020 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wareyin (Post 13269142)
I guess you are behind the times. We've already discussed in this thread how even Giuliani thought this info was too sketchy when someone was selling it to him last year in the Ukraine.

Obviously, Giuliani was wrong initially just like the doubters here at ISF.

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And somehow, you seem reluctant to explain what "dirt" this is supposed to be, or why we should care. Hmm
I'm not obligated to explain anything to anyone who can very easily find the explanation themselves by reading information that has been provided by multiple sources available with a quick Google search.




GTV has released another picture captioned "Exclusive! Picture of Joe Bidenís son Hunter Biden Using and Weighing Drugs Disclosed!".

It's a picture 4.7 g of crack cocaine sitting on a scale. I hope he put back 10% for "the big guy."

Bogative 24th October 2020 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TahiniBinShawarma (Post 13269147)
Motivation is clear with him, Tony Bobulinski found out through the Senate report a few weeks ago that Hunter and Jim Biden had a side deal with CEFC China Energy, and he wasn't happy about it.


I'm guessing he saw the writing on the wall and stepped out in front of this before being thrown under the bus and ending up a convicted felon like two other Hunter Biden former business partners.

TahiniBinShawarma 24th October 2020 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wareyin (Post 13269142)

I guess you are behind the times. We've already discussed in this thread how even Giuliani thought this info was too sketchy when someone was selling it to him last year in the Ukraine.

How do you know it's the same material?

wareyin 24th October 2020 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13269149)
Obviously, Giuliani was wrong initially just like the doubters here at ISF.

Giuliani was wrong that the disinformation someone was trying to charge him $5mil to buy was too sketchy? And you believe that because...?

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13269149)
I'm not obligated to explain anything to anyone who can very easily find the explanation themselves by reading information that has been provided by multiple sources available with a quick Google search.

I'm not going to be able to google why you think evidence that a self admitted drug user was using drugs is some kind of dirt or gotcha. That's why I'm asking you to explain it. If you are unable to, that's ok, I I understand.


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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13269149)
GTV has released another picture captioned "Exclusive! Picture of Joe Bidenís son Hunter Biden Using and Weighing Drugs Disclosed!".

It's a picture 4.7 g of crack cocaine sitting on a scale. I hope he put back 10% for "the big guy."

Oh noes, more evidence that a former addict once used drugs. I am blown away. Next you'll be dropping old Cheech and Chong movies to prove they used drugs too!

wareyin 24th October 2020 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TahiniBinShawarma (Post 13269160)
How do you know it's the same material?

I guess there could have been more than one group selling this stuff, but I sure hope nobody actually paid the asking price of $5 mil for evidence of what was already public and old knowledge.

TahiniBinShawarma 24th October 2020 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by wareyin (Post 13269172)
I guess there could have been more than one group selling this stuff, but I sure hope nobody actually paid the asking price of $5 mil for evidence of what was already public and old knowledge.

So you think the repair shop guy is lying?

Bogative 24th October 2020 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by wareyin (Post 13269162)
I'm not going to be able to google why you think evidence that a self admitted drug user was using drugs is some kind of dirt or gotcha. That's why I'm asking you to explain it. If you are unable to, that's ok, I I understand.

Forgive me for presuming you were sufficiently informed about the subject being discussed. I mentioned "10% to the big guy" in the post you are replying to. Google that term and inform yourself on what it means and how it relates to Joe Biden and Tony Bobulinski.

TahiniBinShawarma 24th October 2020 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wareyin (Post 13259972)
What I find weird is that despite several posters explaining to you that Shokin was not investigating Burisma, as well as the sources you yourself said you got your info from also telling you that, here you are repeating the claim.

What makes you think Shokin wasn't investigating Mykola Zlochevsky/Burisma?

dirtywick 24th October 2020 07:28 PM

There’s supposed to be a laptop from Biden full of details of foreign corruption and child porn, but it’s just a bunch of sex tapes. How boring.

dirtywick 24th October 2020 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TahiniBinShawarma (Post 13269181)
So you think the repair shop guy is lying?

Do I think he got 3 laptops from someone he couldn’t identify but guessed it was Hunter Biden due to a sticker on the laptop, was unable to contact Hunter Biden in any way, made copies of the hard drives and then contacted and turned them over to Rudy Giulianis lawyer? No I don’t think that happened it sounds stupid.

And meanwhile, Rudy Giuliani is cavorting around Eastern Europe specifically to find dirt on Hunter Biden and has been offered this exact info for sale is just a coincidence. Hunter maybe be smoking crack, but sir I am not.

TahiniBinShawarma 24th October 2020 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtywick (Post 13269215)
Do I think he got 3 laptops from someone he couldnít identify but guessed it was Hunter Biden due to a sticker on the laptop, was unable to contact Hunter Biden in any way, made copies of the hard drives and then contacted and turned them over to Rudy Giulianis lawyer? No I donít think that happened it sounds stupid.

Yeah, I'm not sure that's how it's been reported, but just wanted to know if you thought he was lying, which you do. Thanks.

Roger Ramjets 24th October 2020 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TahiniBinShawarma (Post 13268289)
You highlighted the wrong section, see legally.

If you meant legally obligated then you should have said so.

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if the emails are real, I would say he's actually morally obligated to release them.
Why would you say that?


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He may not be, but
But you said he was. Unequivocally. Now you're not sure?

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The sun will never go supernova.
You don't know that. As far as we know the Sun won't ever go supernova, but that doesn't preclude the possibility that scientists are wrong about it.

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There are no charges as of today unless they are under seal, that does not preclude the possibility of future charges.
Possibility is one thing, probability another. Do you have any idea how likely it is?

dirtywick 24th October 2020 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TahiniBinShawarma (Post 13269225)
Yeah, I'm not sure that's how it's been reported, but just wanted to know if you thought he was lying, which you do. Thanks.

To be as fair as I can about this, most of the reporting on it comes from a tabloid article written by a segment producer for a right wing entertainment show so i can understand your doubts about the story.

TahiniBinShawarma 24th October 2020 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Roger Ramjets (Post 13269238)
If you meant legally obligated then you should have said so.

Ok.

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Originally Posted by Roger Ramjets (Post 13269238)
Why would you say that?

Why would I think purported emails that detail corruption should be released on moral grounds?

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Originally Posted by Roger Ramjets (Post 13269238)
But you said he was. Unequivocally. Now you're not sure?

Actually I'm am sure he was pretending to know, whether he realizes it or not.

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Originally Posted by Roger Ramjets (Post 13269238)
You don't know that. As far as we know the Sun won't ever go supernova, but that doesn't preclude the possibility that scientists are wrong about it.

I'm comfortable going with the present science.

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Originally Posted by Roger Ramjets (Post 13269238)
Possibility is one thing, probability another. Do you have any idea how likely it is?

Nope.

Bogative 24th October 2020 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtywick (Post 13269215)
Do I think he got 3 laptops from someone he couldnít identify but guessed it was Hunter Biden due to a sticker on the laptop, was unable to contact Hunter Biden in any way, made copies of the hard drives and then contacted and turned them over to Rudy Giulianis lawyer? No I donít think that happened it sounds stupid.


Fake news. It was fake news 10 days ago when it was first claimed, it's fake news today, it will be fake news for eternity.

John Paul said in a recorded interview he would not have been able to pick Hunter Biden out of the lineup because he didn't know what Hunter Biden looked like.

John Paul said he asked the person dropping the laptops off for his name to which the man responded "Hunter" and then after a long pause said, "Biden" as if he was supposed to recognize who Biden was.

You can hear for yourself starting at the 7:00 mark in the recording at this link. You should listen to the whole thing so you will know what the man actually said instead of the bull **** spin propagated by the media.

https://soundcloud.com/rptrbnd/mac-shop-10-14-cm

TahiniBinShawarma 24th October 2020 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtywick (Post 13269240)
To be as fair as I can about this, most of the reporting on it comes from a tabloid article written by a segment producer for a right wing entertainment show so i can understand your doubts about the story.

Too early to tell, not enough information. Also, the biggest red flag for me is the Wang DingGang aspect.

TahiniBinShawarma 24th October 2020 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13269246)
Fake news. It was fake news 10 days ago when it was first claimed, it's fake news today, it will be fake news for eternity.

John Paul said in a recorded interview he would not have been able to pick Hunter Biden out of the lineup because he didn't know what Hunter Biden looked like.

John Paul said he asked the person dropping the laptops off for his name to which the man responded "Hunter" and then after a long pause said, "Biden" as if he was supposed to recognize who Biden was.

You can hear for yourself starting at the 7:00 mark in the recording at this link. You should listen to the whole thing so you will know what the man actually said instead of the bull **** spin propagated by the media.

https://soundcloud.com/rptrbnd/mac-shop-10-14-cm

In fairness to the other side, I've seen claims he contradicted himself. I also asked for a cite but didn't get any.

dirtywick 24th October 2020 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13269246)
Fake news. It was fake news 10 days ago when it was first claimed, it's fake news today, it will be fake news for eternity.

John Paul said in a recorded interview he would not have been able to pick Hunter Biden out of the lineup because he didn't know what Hunter Biden looked like.

John Paul said he asked the person dropping the laptops off for his name to which the man responded "Hunter" and then after a long pause said, "Biden" as if he was supposed to recognize who Biden was.

You can hear for yourself starting at the 7:00 mark in the recording at this link. You should listen to the whole thing so you will know what the man actually said instead of the bull **** spin propagated by the media.

https://soundcloud.com/rptrbnd/mac-shop-10-14-cm

Rein it in there chief. He also said he canít be sure it was actually Biden but was convinced because of the sticker. At least, thatís what the NY Post article that broke the story claimed. Which, again, trying to figure out whether or not itís true so if youíre taking issue with me using that as a source then, well Iíve been saying itís fake news the whole time.

JoeMorgue 24th October 2020 10:01 PM

Even if I take the worst version of this scandal, accept it without evidence, and multiply it times 10 it won't compare to what Trump does every day before breakfast.

dirtywick 24th October 2020 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TahiniBinShawarma (Post 13269249)
In fairness to the other side, I've seen claims he contradicted himself. I also asked for a cite but didn't get any.

Oh I didnít see that. I got one, the NY Post says he used the Beau Biden foundation sticker to help him identify that it was Hunter but apparently thereís audio of him denying that. Somebody got something wrong there.

Elagabalus 24th October 2020 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13269266)
Even if I take the worst version of this scandal, accept it without evidence, and multiply it times 10 it won't compare to what Trump does every day before breakfast.

Joe Biden could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot Hunter Biden and I would still vote for him. YMMV

TahiniBinShawarma 24th October 2020 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtywick (Post 13269271)
Oh I didnít see that. I got one, the NY Post says he used the Beau Biden foundation sticker to help him identify that it was Hunter but apparently thereís audio of him denying that. Somebody got something wrong there.


https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-...iz-man-to-dad/

"The shop owner couldnít positively identify the customer as Hunter Biden, but said the laptop bore a sticker from the Beau Biden Foundation, named after Hunterís late brother and former Delaware attorney general."

I don't think he used that to identify who brought it in. He has the receipt with Hunter Biden written on it, regardless of whether it was "a second Oswald" who brought it in.

TahiniBinShawarma 24th October 2020 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Elagabalus (Post 13269277)
Joe Biden could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot Hunter Biden and I would still vote for him. YMMV

Cool.

dirtywick 24th October 2020 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TahiniBinShawarma (Post 13269278)
https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-...iz-man-to-dad/

"The shop owner couldnít positively identify the customer as Hunter Biden, but said the laptop bore a sticker from the Beau Biden Foundation, named after Hunterís late brother and former Delaware attorney general."

I don't think he used that to identify who brought it in. He has the receipt with Hunter Biden written on it, regardless of whether it was "a second Oswald" who brought it in.

Interesting thoughts. But why would he bring it up in conjunction with not being able to identify whoís laptop it is if not as evidence he used to identify whoís laptop it is? And why would a receipt with ďHunter BidenĒ on it matter if it wasnít Hunter Biden who signed the receipt?

TahiniBinShawarma 24th October 2020 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtywick (Post 13269287)
Interesting thoughts. But why would he bring it up in conjunction with not being able to identify whoís laptop it is if not as evidence he used to identify whoís laptop it is? And why would a receipt with ďHunter BidenĒ on it matter if it wasnít Hunter Biden who signed the receipt?

Why bring up the sticker? Because in conjunction with the receipt, it kind of rules out that it was a different Hunter Biden. If it was "the second Oswald" who brought it in, you're right, the receipt wouldn't matter.

timhau 24th October 2020 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtywick (Post 13269271)
Oh I didnít see that. I got one, the NY Post says he used the Beau Biden foundation sticker to help him identify that it was Hunter but apparently thereís audio of him denying that. Somebody got something wrong there.

It happens all the time with these laptops. That's no reason not to believe whatever the most recent version is, though.

Minoosh 24th October 2020 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TahiniBinShawarma (Post 13269249)
In fairness to the other side, I've seen claims he contradicted himself. I also asked for a cite but didn't get any.

Here you go:

NYP
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The customer who brought in the water-damaged MacBook Pro for repair never paid for the service or retrieved it or a hard drive on which its contents were stored, according to the shop owner, who said he tried repeatedly to contact the client.
delawareonline.com:
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He said he began hearing about Burisma and Ukraine shortly after Hunter Biden had left his laptop at the Trolley Square repair shop. When a customer doesn't return after 90 days, Mac Isaac says he typically will reach out to them by phone.

Asked if he called Hunter Biden, Mac Isaac said, "No comment."

TahiniBinShawarma 25th October 2020 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Minoosh (Post 13269304)
Here you go:

NYP


delawareonline.com:

That's not a contradiction. The NYP cite is from before his press call, from the article that broke the story. The delawareonline is from the press call after the story broke. Im not sure making a statement to the NYP and then saying "no comment" later is a contradiction, but that's just me I guess.

Elagabalus 25th October 2020 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TahiniBinShawarma (Post 13269306)
That's not a contradiction. The NYP cite is from before his press call, from the article that broke the story. The delawareonline is from the press call after the story broke. Im not sure making a statement to the NYP and then saying "no comment" later is a contradiction, but that's just me I guess.

Cool! :thumbsup:

Minoosh 25th October 2020 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by wareyin (Post 13269133)
Rather than reposting all the people mocking the fake laptop story, why don't you give us some reason to take it seriously? Was the video even claimed to be from the laptop?

If they had better material they would have used it.

The Biden detractors here are making some of the most deeply dishonest arguments I've ever seen on this forum.

ETA: But they aren't even arguments. Just a bunch of smears, sneers and jeers.

dirtywick 25th October 2020 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TahiniBinShawarma (Post 13269298)
Why bring up the sticker? Because in conjunction with the receipt, it kind of rules out that it was a different Hunter Biden. If it was "the second Oswald" who brought it in, you're right, the receipt wouldn't matter.

Oh so the sticker is an integral part of the story and not fake news? Cool then we can move on from that.

Minoosh 25th October 2020 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TahiniBinShawarma (Post 13269306)
That's not a contradiction. The NYP cite is from before his press call, from the article that broke the story. The delawareonline is from the press call after the story broke. Im not sure making a statement to the NYP and then saying "no comment" later is a contradiction, but that's just me I guess.

Why the inconsistency? What is he hiding?

Norman Alexander 25th October 2020 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TahiniBinShawarma (Post 13269298)
Why bring up the sticker? Because in conjunction with the receipt, it kind of rules out that it was a different Hunter Biden. If it was "the second Oswald" who brought it in, you're right, the receipt wouldn't matter.

LOL. What a crock! Nothing of the sort!

I can leave a bodged-up computer at a repair place with a Nazi swastika on it and sign the receipt "Benito Stalin Hitler". In no way does that tie that machine to me, nor does it represent my political views. So if it contains kiddie-porn, does that mean one of those historical leaders is a rock-spider?

Even if this mythical laptop was for some inexplicable reason left at some five-and-dime repair center a zillion miles from where it would be expected to be left, and somehow or other the owner left their private stash of drug-fueled home-movies on it easily accessible, this reeks of a kompromat set-up.

But why go to all that expensive, risky bother. Rudi G has been trawling around Ukraine looking for just this sort of stuff for over a year. He has admitted as much. So just sell the fake kompromat straight to him in Kyiv for dollars, and then let him try to sell it to the US public. He is that stupid and mad. GRU is now millions richer in US dollars, Rudi is happy, and everyone waits for the laugh track to kick in.

So you do understand? This was not aimed at Hunter Biden at all. It was aimed at Rudi, and indirectly it was telling Trump that he, too, can be exposed that easily by his moronic buddies.

Blank 25th October 2020 04:34 AM

Things I've gathered up here:

1) Working for a company is bad. Even if HB did some work for CEFC it is absolutely a no issue. CEFC had tons of employees and no ones calling them out - not working would probably mean labeling HB as a deadbeat bum, but hey.

2)If a company employing you ends up doing something fishy later on, it's an obvious mark that everyone doing business with the said company is part of the fishy business - sorry all former CEFC employees.

3)Pictures that have someone that looks a bit like HB doing drugs are always real. I really can't say if some of the crack fotoes are of HB or someone else.
First time I saw it I was like "That explains a ton about Dr. House"

Not that it really even matters. Hunter Biden is not on the ballot. So the entire thing is just a pointless diversion and a desperate last minute attempt to stir up some scandal. Funniest stuff about this is the rabid Trump supporters doing the "worst crime ever/Obama/chyna"-routine.

Even IF HB did some work for CEFC, in what way was that even remotely illegal in 2017? Is there anything except silly CTs and innuendoes?

The origin of the laptop doesn't even matter, who cares if its a fake or real nothingburger. The entire discussion about it's origin is just a smokescreen and a diversion to cover up the fact that there is nothing of value here, just pointless stuff that amounts to absolutely nothing.

dirtywick 25th October 2020 04:53 AM

imo the longer they keep pushing this instead of talking about something voters might actually care about the better

Mader Levap 25th October 2020 05:00 AM

At this stage, entire thread belongs to conspiracy subforum section.

TahiniBinShawarma 25th October 2020 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13269353)
LOL. What a crock! Nothing of the sort!

I can leave a bodged-up computer at a repair place with a Nazi swastika on it and sign the receipt "Benito Stalin Hitler". In no way does that tie that machine to me, nor does it represent my political views. So if it contains kiddie-porn, does that mean one of those historical leaders is a rock-spider?

Even if this mythical laptop was for some inexplicable reason left at some five-and-dime repair center a zillion miles from where it would be expected to be left, and somehow or other the owner left their private stash of drug-fueled home-movies on it easily accessible, this reeks of a kompromat set-up.

The store is a few miles away from his father's house, and right up the street from the foundation. The "zillion miles" is just nonsense.


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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13269353)
But why go to all that expensive, risky bother. Rudi G has been trawling around Ukraine looking for just this sort of stuff for over a year. He has admitted as much. So just sell the fake kompromat straight to him in Kyiv for dollars, and then let him try to sell it to the US public. He is that stupid and mad. GRU is now millions richer in US dollars, Rudi is happy, and everyone waits for the laugh track to kick in.

So you do understand? This was not aimed at Hunter Biden at all. It was aimed at Rudi, and indirectly it was telling Trump that he, too, can be exposed that easily by his moronic buddies.


You have the repair guy as a willing part of some Russian conspiracy?

wareyin 25th October 2020 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TahiniBinShawarma (Post 13269181)
So you think the repair shop guy is lying?

I've asked you before which contradictory version of his story is true, and how do you know? In response to you asking that exact question already.

wareyin 25th October 2020 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TahiniBinShawarma (Post 13269198)
What makes you think Shokin wasn't investigating Mykola Zlochevsky/Burisma?

Wow, that's a blast from the past. How many pages back, 6? Or 16.5?

Anyway, the fact that the entire international community was complaining at the time that Shokin wasn't, coupled with his explicit stated refusal to do so. Thanks for playing.


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