Re Canada, electing a relative is not appointing a relative.

Saudi is of course, not a democracy.

Quite so. But it's a G20 nation, and for some reason that was the comparison group chosen.

This thread has gotten really weird. Like even weird than it already was.

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Also, apparently now taking a friend or family member into your confidence now a sign of mental illness.

I guess every family-owned and operated business is owned and operated by crazy people now.

How many times do your kids show up at your work meetings? Daily? Did they show up and get their own offices when you were hired?

I don't have kids. But family operations are quite common.

As are topless beaches. But the US presidency is neither a family operation nor a topless beach. Children of presidents are not elected, they do not have jobs in the government, they are not authorized to speak for the US on any subject, and they are certainly not entitled to attend summit meetings.

Democracy is overrated.

It's possible the prestige is right, and it's no big deal to have your kids involved in a family operation, but perhaps at the same time it is a big deal that some people think a nation should be run like the corner butcher shop.

Or a NY mob racket.

And it's not like there's anything in the constitution against hereditary power. The founding fathers would have said something if they opposed the idea of people inheriting high office...

As I said, it was never verified...as in by doctors or medical records. Personally, I think he was suffering from the early stages while in office and it was concealed by Nancy and those around him. He was not officially diagnosed until five years after he left office (1994). As I've said earlier, my mother commented that "something is wrong with that man" while he was in office and noted that Nancy was always glued to his side.

Whoa, the prestige. Hold your horses here. Who said anything about "taking a friend or family member into your confidence (is) now a sign of mental illness"? Neigh-ry a one. You need to rein in your imagination. Personally, I don't think 'stable geniuses' would surround themselves with unqualified family members as advisers. That runs rough shod over horse sense.

Ok..I'll stop now.

The people of the US do not elect the head of a family-owned business; they elect the President of the United States.

Yeah, not really sure what the people of the US are actually thinking in their election choices. Lost the plot.

A MINORITY of the people of the US. I take great comfort in that.

That, and thinking that Putin's comment about "western liberalism" was about the "liberal" cities on the USA's west coast, and thinking that a question about school busing was about whether to use buses to get kids to school. From a President, this complete lack of any awareness or concept of what his job even is is like asking an electrician a question involving "current" and getting an answer about canoes & kayaks. It would be hard to be any farther out-of-it than this and still be (mostly) able to even speak English at all.

Pence=Incitatus.

Trudeau was elected, not appointed by his father.

Good point in naming Saudi Arabia, though. I was wondering about maybe Turkey or Indonesia; I had forgotten that the Saudis were in the G20.

Still, thankfully, the top 20 economies aren’t generally family-run businesses. Again, with our own glaring exception, and the Saudis who were, of course, the Trump administration’s first overseas trip. Which was, to quote a certain President, Sad!

Even if the excuses about involving family in the job were valid or even made a speck of sense, they still would not explain the sudden change, to having someone of his inner circle accompany him at all times, when they hadn't done that before.

This is Kremlinology, not psychiatry.

Donald Trump has 'dangerous mental illness', say psychiatry experts at Yale... Pt 2
 

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Ivanka is advising him on when to take his dried-frog pills.

Trump is a danger to no one. He has a very Narcistic personality which I don't particularly like but he presents no danger to society in America anyway. A true weirdo would have declared war on Iran instead of showing restraint.

He said the downing of the drone was not a reason to go to war but had the plane been manned it might have been. He is punishing Iran in other economical ways.

He is certainly no psychopath.

I don't think he is either.

But he clearly is a sociopath.

He already is trying to destroy many of the checks and balances in the US system. He is happy to accept the support and endorsement of white supremacists and klan members. He seems obsessed with destroying everything Obama did, regardless of merit, simply because Obama mocked him in response to Trump's constant birtherism. He has let slip US intelligence to hostile foreign powers, seemingly with no reason other than to show off (part of his narcissism). He attacks the press as an enemy of the people for telling the truth and incites violence against his opponents including the press. He is indulging in criminal behaviour in the highest office and there are multiple credible accusations of sexual assault and rape against him.

Apart from that, well, I'm sure others could list some positives and negatives.

Mental illness diagnoses are just words that try to fit malfunctions in any or all of the trillions and trillions of cells, neurons, neurotransmitters, notgoingtoeventrytosumupthebrainandbody'spartsthat affectbehaviour.

That's why the DSM-# keeps getting bigger and bigger. And this thread.

This thread keeps getting bigger because of Trump Derangement Syndrome. But that is a figure of speech, not a real mental illness.

It's more like a fanfic with really dedicated fans. Like furries.

It's not deranged to worry about further evidence of the increasing levels of idiocy of the president.

His statements about airports in the War of Independence or War of 1812, were not what a well person would say regardless of whether their autocue broke.

It's quite hilarious to see someone claim Trump derangement syndrome when Trump's NPD is so blatantly demonstrable that one has to seriously ignore reality to pretend it's not there.

So true.

If we define something as Trump Derangement Syndrome, it is happening on both pro- and anti-Trump sides of the political spectrum.

The term needs no partisan meaning.

Trump is deranged, though. (Not a medical diagnosis.)

From the pdf document linked to here with a bit of introduction

https://medium.com/hundreds-of-menta...t-123f8f054cd0

Being concerned about the president's health is not derangement.

For those of us here who are not concerned however...

This thread helps reassure me that Trump hasn't completely lost it yet. Because I think he is capable of 'great' things, and it would be pity if he had to step down before doing something truly insane. Then when he does it, and conservatives have to decide whether or not to keep pretending he's fine, we will find out who is truly deranged.

Quite popular in Sicily, I understand.

Not sure this was already linked:

https://youtu.be/pS8k93rbJjI

"What the Mueller Report reveals about Trump's mental state."

I don't really disagree with any of this.

Quite popular in a lot of places. I'm pretty sure you don't actually think that every family business is a mob operation.

Very interesting. As Dr. Lee says, this was a mental capacity evaluation that does not require an in person interview.

It's important to highlight what Dr. Lee said regarding presidents and vice-presidents undergoing mental health evaluations: those who push the nuclear buttons must undergo such exams every year but the person who commands them does not.

Of course the person who commands them goes through a mental health evaluation. Indeed, they go through exactly the evaluation that Dr Lee has essayed for Trump.

She was referring to the Commander-in-Chief. The POTUS is not required to undergo a mental health evaluation.

Which was utterly obvious given that that part of the video was about the "Commander in Chief" whilst discussing the President and Donald Trump and this thread is about Trump's mental health.

It's a bit like Liverpoolmiss on Badscience saying that she wonders who "Individual One" could have been in the Cohen indictment. She managed to narrow it down to someone who was the Republican presidential nominee for 2016...

Meanwhile as if to demonstrate that point of the video (or the associated article I linked to) Trump's airport speech xame along.

Then his excuse that it was due to a faulty autocue emphasized his disconnection from reality or at least basic knowledge that a 7 year old would understand.