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Not yet anyway. |
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Can Franken reasonably expect to win again in these times? |
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I don't doubt she believes her perception of Franken's motives. I am not sure her perception—he wrote the skit and wanted to practice it so he could kiss her— is valid. That implies she knows Franken's motive but she has no way of verifying that motive. Quote:
When the accusers come out of the woodwork, the subject can be revisited. In the meantime, Franken has been a supporter of women's rights for decades. And his response to the accusation fits with my confirmation bias, that he is indeed sensitive and has decided if his behavior has been crass he's determined to change it. |
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Penis I guess, I'll try not to offend you. :rolleyes: |
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It lessens what actual groping is, and it makes a crime of any sexual jokes whatsoever. I get it, some people are outraged. Personally, I don't draw the line at such a prudish point. At the same time, the important stuff should not go unnoticed like the Steubenville pictures. |
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Yes, I think the reason the election was close was Franken was a comedian and not a proven legislator. Now he has a legislator track record and my guess is Minnesotans are pleased with his record. |
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Don’t forget he’s known this picture was out for awhile. ;) |
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I asked why Franken's actions made such an impression on her when surely other men must have also objectified her? That doesn't have **** to do with saying she egged Franken on or she should have expected Franken to want to jam his tongue down her mouth. If anything, maybe those expectations, that men objectify her, is what led her to assume certain things about Franken's motives. |
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I think it is a dangerous route to go down. |
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Every woman on this planet gets that treatment from men. But what Franken did was way beyond what any woman should have to deal with. The way you brought up her modeling was again, classic slut shaming. If a woman gets her ass pinched walking down the street, you pretty much said “why is she upset she should be used to it since she’s wearing those yoga pants all the time” |
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Clutch those pearls. Him being a member of the loyal opposition have anything to do with your convenient sense of outrage. |
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She worked at hooters. |
Yep. Partisan politics at its best. "Let me explain in three thousand words why your jaywalker is worse than my jaywalker".
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2) What body should he submit himself to for judgment. No criminal or civil charges have been filed. |
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Men are dawgs! (God help me, the MRAs will be along.) Men behaving badly in concert with other men behaving badly and their mousy female enablers is a constant in society since I can remember. We don't really care. We're just here for the political points, after all. |
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I absolutely don't condone Franken's behavior. He should absolutely suffer some consequence. That said, let's not compare oranges to apples. There is a difference between admitting wrong doing, apologizing and supporting an ethics investigation into one's self and what Moore did. Has Franken been banned from the Mall of the Americas for hitting on high school girls?
If the investigation comes up with worse behavior (I'll note the victim in this case has pointedly not called for his removal from the Senate, rather the opposite) with more women, then he should be removed from the Senate. |
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https://www.snopes.com/2017/11/17/ro...ng-teen-girls/ |
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Do you think that the NSFW photos damage her credibility? Does anyone here? If not, then why are you still going on about this after other 450 posts in this thread. Seems that the one with the issue here might be you because you are the one that keeps bring it up. |
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So telling people he was banned is a lie? |
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