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You do have to wonder how this stands out in her mind as the quintessential sexual harassment when clearly it must have been common in her life. You would think she had a gazillion worse complaints to be made.
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So he mimed groping a woman through her flak jacket. He knew she would see this picture and be humiliated. Man, rape culture never sleeps; these guys are always one or two steps ahead.
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QUESTION: Has Al Franken been photographed groping a sleeping woman's breast other than "the woman's"?
Fact: it only counts if it is pattern. Fact: Appearing in Playboy or eating at Hooters is basically a one grope free card. Holy smokes, this thread, yo..... |
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I most certainly don't believe if you are a model or waitress at Hooters it is expected of you to be groped. |
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Slut Shaming damn.... is this for real? |
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Then what? Is every actor that kissed in a skit a potential harasser? Have you seen Game of Thrones? 50 Shades? |
#MeToo (but only if there is at least two... no hooters waitresses either)
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Also (anyone can answer) why hasn't this photo been circulated until she circulated it, if it was for humiliation purposes ? Doesn't cause much humiliation hidden away from public sight does it ? Seems like the only one humiliated here is franken ? |
I remember a San Diego sports figure grabbed a handful of some "waitress". She sued in civil court and won. One dollar. Seems that with her past, the crime was akin to shoplifting.
This lne seems like another has-been making a last grab at the lime light. |
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I find it hard to believe that in the military this kind of joking isn't common. There must be a gazillon sleeping picture jokes of military men and women. Women in the military are being raped and assaulted. That is something to be outraged about. The accusations over more minor things really lessens the seriousness of the significant issues. |
Hmmm, linking to her past as a playboy model, hooters waitress, link to bikini pictures.
Golly, i wonder why more women didn't come out earlier?? Oh right, the unfettered slut shaming.... |
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And IDK if I count that as "groping" her , as it doesn't like like he's actually touching her. grope 2. informal feel or fondle (someone) for sexual pleasure, especially against their will. "he was accused of groping office girls" synonyms: fondle, touch; |
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On the sliding scale of sexual assault seriousness is one kiss from what might have been a miscommunication and a pretend grope the same as actually groping and repeatedly kissing teenage girls?
Because while both are bad I see one as definitely way worse than the other. The response is also starkly different. |
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So, we're not supposed to "slut shame", but Geez, men are not eunuchs. Not even actors. |
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It doesn't matter and we shouldn't assume any of that. Regardless of the reason, the question still remains, is this one person's reaction to Franken or is it a pattern? If one person believes, for whatever reason, that your actions toward them were abusive, then 1) it's either the actions were abusive and it's a pattern, or 2) the actions were abusive unintentionally (it happens), or 3) the actions weren't abusive and the person's interpretation of the actions was wrong. I've already said the reason I don't put #1 on that list as the most likely is because Franken has been a promoter of women's rights for decades. That doesn't mean he couldn't still turn out to be an abuser. But I have no reason not to rule out #2 or #3 at this point. |
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"I most certainly don't believe if you are a model or waitress at Hooters it is expected of you to be groped." |
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I think you will find the set of people who think franken should step down due to this coincides 100% with the group that thinks trump shouldn't be president because of what he did. The problem is the group of people who think franken needs to go, but trump is ok. I'm trying to find out if the prestige is in that latter group. Quote:
They can investigate the charges there ... because that sounds like the right thing too. I'm not quite ready to just willy-nilly take anyones word for things that have big consequences with no investigation. |
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Not at all. There’s an actual picture of Franken sexually harassing a woman. |
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Think about this for a moment. If it wasn't for the whole "locker-room talk" thing with Trump, do you think there would even be a question as it if felling up a 14-year old was acceptable currently? The way to stamp this out is to not be accepting of any of it, regardless of how "just messing around" it might be. |
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