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shemp 13th September 2020 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RedStapler (Post 13222256)
In his constantly increasing stupidity he probably means either that he has some strange, of course not existing 'right' for 4 more years since the pesky Dems tried to impeach his 'innocent' ass or he plans on replacing key positions in the justice system so they will 'decide' that he is totally eligible for 4 more years since the pesky Dems tried to impeach his 'innocent' ass. :)

Well, if they want Civil War II that's the route they should take.

Norman Alexander 13th September 2020 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedStapler (Post 13222256)
In his constantly increasing stupidity he probably means either that he has some strange, of course not existing 'right' for 4 more years since the pesky Dems tried to impeach his 'innocent' ass or he plans on replacing key positions in the justice system so they will 'decide' that he is totally eligible for 4 more years since the pesky Dems tried to impeach his 'innocent' ass. :)

The good thing is that one of the potential outcomes of any negotiation with an untrustworthy client is "**** OFF".

thaiboxerken 13th September 2020 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13222313)
The good thing is that one of the potential outcomes of any negotiation with an untrustworthy client is "**** OFF".

Well.. Trump is probably using the Republican definition of negotiation, which is he gets what he wants and gives up nothing for it.

Bob001 13th September 2020 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper (Post 13222289)
At least with Trump gone, they won't be unified under one leader anymore. They will be just as bigoted, authoritarian, and insufferable, but maybe just a tad bit less visible and vocal.


But if Trump loses, he won't be gone. He has only served one term. He can run again in 2024. He can raise money, make speeches and incite mobs for the next four years, and so can his offspring. If anything goes wrong during the Biden administration, Trump can win. And how will his cultists respond if the 2024 Democratic candidate is Kamala Harris or Stacey Abrams? If Trump doesn't run, he can throw his support behind some younger, smarter fascist like Ted Cruz or Tom Cotton. Whatever is happening now is far from over.

Norman Alexander 13th September 2020 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob001 (Post 13222321)
But if Trump loses, he won't be gone. He has only served one term. He can run again in 2024. He can raise money, make speeches and incite mobs for the next four years, and so can his offspring. If anything goes wrong during the Biden administration, Trump can win. And how will his cultists respond if the 2024 Democratic candidate is Kamala Harris or Stacey Abrams? If Trump doesn't run, he can throw his support behind some younger, smarter fascist like Ted Cruz or Tom Cotton. Whatever is happening now is far from over.

Less likely if he is in jail, or has fled to Moscow to escape prosecution, or he has been committed to an asylum for the terminally bewildered.

Horatius 13th September 2020 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojo (Post 13221893)

Quote:

The long-time Republican dirty trickster, who has a tattoo of Richard Nixon on his back, offered the startling advice on Thursday, in a call to conspiracy theorist Alex Jones’s Infowars online show.

Well, that just says it all.

Horatius 13th September 2020 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13222117)
Just signed a new Executive Order to LOWER DRUG PRICES! My Most Favored Nation order will ensure that our Country gets the same low price Big Pharma gives to other countries. The days of global freeriding at America’s expense are over...


We should perhaps note that "Big Pharma" doesn't "give" other countries lower prices. Other countries with Universal Health Care tend to negotiate with Big Pharma, using their massive purchasing power, to make them sell at better prices.

Of course the "Businessman president" doesn't get that.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Ladewig (Post 13222156)
So, just out of curiosity, what kind of pay do you think re-education center employees make? Is there a uniform allowance?



Education is a CommieNazi plot, so of course they get **** wages and have to buy their own whips to use on the students.

RedStapler 13th September 2020 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Horatius (Post 13222409)

Education is a CommieNazi plot

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I AGREE

The Great Zaganza 13th September 2020 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 13222218)

This is not just bravado by Trump: if he wins, he is a Lame Duck from day 1: Republicans will think of the post-Trump era and make sure not to distance themselves from anything too crazy.

gypsyjackson 13th September 2020 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13222117)
Trump Tweets

I did more in 47 months as President than Sleepy Joe Biden did in 47 years! #MAGA

Just signed a new Executive Order to LOWER DRUG PRICES! My Most Favored Nation order will ensure that our Country gets the same low price Big Pharma gives to other countries. The days of global freeriding at America’s expense are over...

...and prices are coming down FAST! Also just ended all rebates to middlemen, further reducing prices.

I can’t find the EO, but this matter does, as Horatius notes, seem to demonstrate a misunderstanding of Most Favoured Nation rules. Under MFN, unless you have a registered free trade agreement, you can’t give a tariff discount to countries that export a product to you unless you give the same discount to all other non-FTA countries.

I thought I would check what the US tariffs are on medicines, choosing packaged pseudoephedrine as an example completely at random, and it seems the US has long had a zero tariff. So I’m not sure how an executive order could do anything to MFN tariffs other than increase them. Maybe import subsidies?

gypsyjackson 13th September 2020 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13221927)
Trump Tweets

Sleepy Joe Biden has spent 47 years in politics being terrible to Hispanics. Now he is relying on Castro lover Bernie Sanders to help him out. That won’t work! Remember, Miami Cubans gave me the highly honored Bay of Pigs Award for all I have done for our great Cuban Population!

Trying to grab some of that sweet Bay of Pigs glory the US is renowned for.

The Great Zaganza 13th September 2020 10:13 PM

I presume the Bay of Pigs Award is a mocking award to single out a person who proclaims support for a group but then abandons them to their death for political expedience.
If so, it entirely fitting.

Bob001 13th September 2020 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13222469)
I presume the Bay of Pigs Award is a mocking award to single out a person who proclaims support for a group but then abandons them to their death for political expedience.
If so, it entirely fitting.


Not even that. It doesn't exist at all.
Quote:

Attacking Joe Biden and seeking to exploit reports that his rival is struggling with Latino voters, Donald Trump boasted on Sunday of receiving “the highly honoured Bay of Pigs Award” from Cuban Americans in the battleground state of Florida.

Perhaps inevitably, and to the glee of the internet, no such award exists.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ida-cuba-biden

Stacyhs 13th September 2020 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob001 (Post 13222472)
Not even that. It doesn't exist at all.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ida-cuba-biden

What next? He'll claim he was awarded the Purple Heart that retired Lt. Col. handed him back in 2016? Or maybe the Nobel Prize that he was nominated for?

The Great Zaganza 13th September 2020 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob001 (Post 13222472)
Not even that. It doesn't exist at all.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ida-cuba-biden

Can we set up a Bay-of-Pigs award then?

I'm thinking of a Logo with a Pig's head on a stick from Lord of the Flies.

Bob001 13th September 2020 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13222475)
What next? He'll claim he was awarded the Purple Heart that retired Lt. Col. handed him back in 2016? Or maybe the Nobel Prize that he was nominated for?


Every time anybody mentions that -- and apparently it's in heavy rotation on Fox -- it should be noted that there are probably tens of thousands of people in the world who can submit a nomination. There are at least 318 nominees this year.

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According to the statutes of the Nobel Foundation, a nomination is considered valid if it is submitted by a person who falls within one of the following categories:

Members of national assemblies and national governments (cabinet members/ministers) of sovereign states as well as current heads of states

Members of The International Court of Justice in The Hague and The Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague

Members of l’Institut de Droit International

Members of the international board of the Women’s International League for Peace and Freedom

University professors, professors emeriti and associate professors of history, social sciences, law, philosophy, theology, and religion; university rectors and university directors (or their equivalents); directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes

Persons who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize

Members of the main board of directors or its equivalent of organizations that have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize

Current and former members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee (proposals by current members of the Committee to be submitted no later than at the first meeting of the Committee after 1 February)

Former advisers to the Norwegian Nobel Committee
https://www.nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/

Ladewig 13th September 2020 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob001 (Post 13222482)
Every time anybody mentions that -- and apparently it's in heavy rotation on Fox -- it should be noted that there are probably tens of thousands of people in the world who can submit a nomination. There are at least 318 nominees this year.


https://www.nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/

Wait!

In past years Trump couldn’t even get Jerry “I like to watch” Falwell, Jr to nominate him?

And no Republican senators would nominate him?

And he couldn’t get Ukrainian President V. Zelinski to mail his name to Oslo?

KDLarsen 14th September 2020 02:30 AM

It's good to be king

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Nevada event in front of a mostly mask-less crowd breaches state’s 50-person limit and Trump administration’s coronavirus guidelines

In open defiance of state regulations and his own administration’s pandemic health guidelines, President Donald Trump on Sunday hosted his first indoor rally since June, telling a packed, nearly mask-less Nevada crowd that the nation was making the last turn in defeating the virus.

Eager to project a sense of normalcy in imagery, Trump soaked up the raucous cheers inside the warehouse venue. Relatively few in the crowd wore masks, with one clear exception: those in the stands directly behind Trump, whose images would end up on TV, were mandated to wear face coverings.
The Guardian: Trump's first indoor rally since June defies Covid laws, attacks Biden

I'm going to assume that yet again, nothing is going to come of it.

Craig4 14th September 2020 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob001 (Post 13222321)
But if Trump loses, he won't be gone. He has only served one term. He can run again in 2024. He can raise money, make speeches and incite mobs for the next four years, and so can his offspring. If anything goes wrong during the Biden administration, Trump can win. And how will his cultists respond if the 2024 Democratic candidate is Kamala Harris or Stacey Abrams? If Trump doesn't run, he can throw his support behind some younger, smarter fascist like Ted Cruz or Tom Cotton. Whatever is happening now is far from over.

Trump will be 78 in 2024 and let's face it, he's no Joe Biden. We have strong indications that his health is failing. The fight to be the heir of Trump is going to be ugly with his nits who grew into lice, former cabinet members and probably a few demagogue businessmen vying for the crown. If the Trump administration ends next year and along with it, the loss of the Senate, he's going to leave a weakened and fractured GOP.

Captain_Swoop 14th September 2020 03:32 AM

Trump Tweets

Biden Handlers know this is a lie!
Quote Tweet

New ad by the Biden camp suggesting President Trump will deplete Social Security by 2023, receives four Pinocchios from WAPO.
FACTS MATTER.

We will be substantially LOWERING Medicare Premiums and Prescription Drug Prices, bringing them down to levels that were not thought possible!

Captain_Swoop 14th September 2020 03:34 AM

Trump Tweets

For the entire summer, Joe Biden was SILENT as left-wing mobs assaulted police officers. When Biden’s far-left supporters set fire to police cars, precinct stations, and courthouses, Joe Biden called them “PEACEFUL PROTESTORS.” When asked if he would cut police funding, Biden...

...replied “Yes, Absolutely.” Biden calls for abolishing cash bail and closing prisons — and Biden even called law enforcement “the ENEMY.” Biden’s anti-police crusade must STOP. Furthermore, the corporations funding anti-police organizations should instead give their money...

...to the families of crime victims and fallen officers. In the Republican Party, we know that police officers are not villains, but HEROES who risk their lives to KEEP US SAFE 24/7/365!

Captain_Swoop 14th September 2020 04:08 AM

Trump Retweeted

LORI HENDRY
@Lrihendry
In a democrat America rioting and looting are acceptable. Going down an aisle the wrong way in Publix without a mask is an arrestable offense.

Eric Trump
@EricTrump
Good things happen to great people who have backbone & conviction! On Friday, Erica Enders added #WomenForTrump to both sides of her car & started an amazing movement among the drivers in support of @realDonaldTrump! Minutes ago she won the entire U.S Nationals in Indianapolis!!

Captain_Swoop 14th September 2020 04:13 AM

Trump Retweeted

Paul Sperry
@paulsperry_

DEVELOPING: Investigators have learned that Obama CIA Director John Brennan ran a secret task force out of Langley with its own separate budget to investigate Trump campaign and alleged ties to Russia. Task force set up before FBI officially launched its own probe on 07/31/16

Herschel Walker
@HerschelWalker
Shame on @KamalaHarris not visiting 911 Caller in WI! As AG in SF, a judge had to intervene for her violating a defendant's constitutional rights. Incarcerated thousands for marijuana charges & then bragged she smoked weed listening to rappers who weren't even known yet!

Captain_Swoop 14th September 2020 04:15 AM

Trump Retweeted

Ronna McDaniel
@GOPChairwoman
·
Sep 9
From Israel-UAE to Serbia-Kosovo, @realDonaldTrump has accomplished more for peace in the last month than President Obama did in 8 years – and Obama was nominated just *weeks* after being sworn in.
A truly deserving nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize for President Trump!

Jack Posobiec Flag of United States
@JackPosobiec
Trump banned Critical Race Theory, told off the Military Industrial Complex, announced he’s bringing the troops home, got nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize, and it’s only Wednesday morning

Rudy W. Giuliani
@RudyGiuliani
It’s clear Robert Mueller was in no condition to run his investigation — so who did?
This is the same CON the Democrats are pulling with Biden!

Ladewig 14th September 2020 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KDLarsen (Post 13222568)
It's good to be king


The Guardian: Trump's first indoor rally since June defies Covid laws, attacks Biden[indent]
Eager to project a sense of normalcy in imagery, Trump soaked up the raucous cheers inside the warehouse venue. Relatively few in the crowd wore masks, with one clear exception: those in the stands directly behind Trump, whose images would end up on TV, were mandated to wear face coverings.
I'm going to assume that yet again, nothing is going to come of it.

A) I wonder how far droplets from raucous cheers can go.

B) He’s traded auditoriums for warehouses?

A+B) I wonder how far droplets from raucous cheers can go in a warehouse.

.....
With every passing week each side becomes more certain that the other side is a bunch of morons making decisions that will kill people.



ETA
“Eager to project a sense of normalcy”?
Trump could not project a sense of normalcy if all his wealth were at stake.

Captain_Swoop 14th September 2020 04:16 AM

Trump Retweeted
Lou Dobbs
@LouDobbs
Thanks for your kind words Rudy, and for all you've done for the nation and @POTUS! #MAGA #AmericaFirst
Quote Tweet

Rudy W. Giuliani
@RudyGiuliani
@LouDobbs book should be an immediate buy for everyone. It is a persuasive explanation of how @realDonaldTrump, and only Trump, can lead America's already growing economy back to the historic levels pre-China virus.

Ladewig 14th September 2020 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13222614)
Trump Retweeted

Paul Sperry
@paulsperry_

DEVELOPING: Investigators have learned that Obama CIA Director John Brennan ran a secret task force out of Langley with its own separate budget to investigate Trump campaign and alleged ties to Russia. Task force set up before FBI officially launched its own probe on 07/31/16

Herschel Walker
@HerschelWalker
Shame on @KamalaHarris not visiting 911 Caller in WI! As AG in SF, a judge had to intervene for her violating a defendant's constitutional rights. Incarcerated thousands for marijuana charges & then bragged she smoked weed listening to rappers who weren't even known yet!

Investigators?
Like Sheriff Joe and his birth certificate investigators?

What do you think the odds are that President Trump asked at least one person on his staff about setting up a secret CIA team to spy on Team Biden?

ETA
And that conversation included, “But I’m their boss. They have to do what I say”?

Firestone 14th September 2020 04:36 AM

Must be one of the most stupid conspiracy theories ever that "they" launched a myriad investigations on the Trump campaign, but somehow forgot to even leak anything about that before the election.

What the FBI (probably the NYC office) actually leaked was that "Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia" (NYT, Oct 31st, 2016).
And the "Comey letter" of course.

But yeah, Trump is still whining in 2020 about something that actually didn't happen (or if it did, had 0 impact) in 2016.

jimbob 14th September 2020 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 13215532)
But there are tapes, many of them. And there are many Tweets.

If the Democrats are smart, they'll make dozens of ads with Trump's unkept promises, his egging on violence, and his divisiveness,

I don't think the Veterans are better off, show that. And show Trump with his gold toilets claiming how good the stock market is, next to the unemployed and people not surviving. Show all those closed for good businesses.

Show those two people in scrubs holding off Trump supporters.

This stuff is marketing 101. It writes itself.

Oh yes. But I was specifically referring to his "losers and suckers" comment. As that directly attacks something his supporters claim to love.

ETA: it plays against his "truthiness" idea.

Racism and mocking disabled people - "Everyone thinks like that, but the hypocrite libs don't dare say it out loud"
Boasting of sexual assault - "yes it was a bit crass, but again, it's just what a red-blooded man would do in that situation"

Dissing veterans - hmm

Fast Eddie B 14th September 2020 05:33 AM

I watched as much of last night’s rally as I could stand.

Most of what I saw was doomsday demonizing of Biden.

But he also mentioned Obama “spying” on his campaign, which elicited a chant of “Lock him up!”. With Trump soaking it up.

https://youtu.be/9BAnprlmuOE

This was followed by what I think was a chant of “We love you!”, though it was hard for me to make out.

So, we’re at the point where a sitting President suggests the imprisonment of his predecessor. It’s all quite disheartening. And scary.

carlitos 14th September 2020 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13222475)
What next? He'll claim he was awarded the Purple Heart that retired Lt. Col. handed him back in 2016? Or maybe the Nobel Prize that he was nominated for?



Maybe he conflated his Michigan Man of the Year award with the Bay City Rollers.

Armitage72 14th September 2020 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob001 (Post 13222472)
Not even that. It doesn't exist at all.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ida-cuba-biden


It was mentioned in an earlier post that he received an endorsement, not an award, from an organization called the Bay of Pigs Veterans Association.

Captain_Swoop 14th September 2020 08:04 AM

Trump Tweets

Our people have all left Drudge. He is a confused MESS, has no clue what happened. Down 51%. @DRUDGE
They like REVOLVER and others!

Great, Just Out! 51% Approval Rating in Rasmussen Poll. 95% in Republican Party. Stock Market up BIG today. Will I ever be given credit for the Markets and Economy? Next year will be BIG!

Captain_Swoop 14th September 2020 08:06 AM

Trump Retweeted

Byron York
@ByronYork
Princeton University group studies 3 months of Black Lives Matter protests. Intent is to show they are 'overwhelmingly peaceful.' But report reveals nearly 570 violent demonstrations--riots--in nearly 220 locations spread all across country. http://ow.ly/wY4u50BiSDg

Ronna McDaniel
@GOPChairwoman
The this is a total smear campaign against @realDonaldTrump. His opponents have been waging one since before he was elected!

Lou Dobbs
@LouDobbs
Biden Megadonor Owns The Atlantic, Reportedly Communicates Often With Journalist Behind Anonymously-Sourced Trump Bombshell

Donald Trump Jr.
@DonaldJTrumpJr
When two dozen phones belonging to Robert Mueller’s crooked henchmen magically all get erased how is anyone supposed to have any faith in our justice system?
Imagine how long all the witnesses they railroaded would be in jail for if they had done that “by accident?”

Firestone 14th September 2020 08:06 AM

I finally get it: Biden is responsible for the pandemic and the riots, while Trump is responsible for the "good" economy.
Co-presidents, as it were.

Captain_Swoop 14th September 2020 09:04 AM

Trump Tweets
Pathetic!
Quote Tweet

Emerald Robinson Latin cross
@EmeraldRobinson
Bubba Wallace: "There's a noose in my garage!"
FBI: "We'll scramble 15 agents to investigate today!"
Tom Fitton: "The Mueller team destroyed 31 work phones to hide their tracks in 2018!"
FBI: "Sorry, we're busy at an Intersectionality training class."

Trump Tweets
Push it hard Marsha. DOJ must act. This should include Crooked Hillary’s illegal deletion of her emails. SPEED!
Quote Tweet

Sen. Marsha Blackburn
@MarshaBlackburn
Destroying evidence is a federal crime punishable by up to 20 years in prison. https://foxnews.com/politics/mueller...e-intelligence

Captain_Swoop 14th September 2020 09:05 AM

Trump Retweets

Avik Roy
@Avik
So @YouTube just took down a June 23 interview that Scott Atlas (@SWAtlasHoover) did with his employer, Stanford's @HooverInst, because it "contradicts the World Health Organization or local health authorities' medical information about COVID-19."
Antitrust jurisprudence and regulation in the U.S. needs to be modernized on many fronts, especially to tackle the problem of multinational technology companies that attempt to impose a monopoly on information.

Mollie
@MZHemingway
Big Tech is utterly terrifying right now. The World Health Organization is not our master and they are dangerously wrong with alarming frequency. Even if that weren’t true, free people must be free to counter them.

Captain_Swoop 14th September 2020 09:06 AM

Trump Retweeted

Steve Milloy
@JunkScience
California has a long history of megadroughts that pre-date SUVs.
People can either manage forests intelligently or nature will do it indiscriminately.

Harmeet K. Dhillon
@pnjaban
Hospital industry lobbyists who gave $1m+ to @andrewcuomo convinced him to send thousands of grandparents to their deaths in order to protect hospital bottom lines. There were never any bed shortages in our country. I hope it was worth it, Governor.

Bill Hammond
Raske and GNYHA have become one of Cuomo's closest political allies and financial supporters, donating more than $1M to his 2018 campaign. Cuomo, in turn, has taken extraordinary steps to the benefit of GNYHA's members. https://empirecenter.org/publication...ing-the-money/

Captain_Swoop 14th September 2020 09:10 AM

Trump Tweets
I am helping Minnesota greatly. OBiden was a Minnesota disaster!
Quote Tweet

David Reaboi
@davereaboi
One thing Somalia definitely doesn’t need is more Somalis radicalized in Minneapolis.

CapelDodger 14th September 2020 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armitage72 (Post 13222777)
... an organization called the Bay of Pigs Veterans Association.

Suckers and losers.


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