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Trebuchet 8th November 2018 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12496546)
Stories that Interior Sectrary Zinke is making inquires about a possible job as a commentator on Fox News,and the he has told close friends he will quit before the end of the year. Looks as if he is going bye bye.

Can you be a Fox News commentator while in Club Fed?

Craig4 8th November 2018 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12496579)
Can you be a Fox News commentator while in Club Fed?

I don't think Zinke would be willing to do what it takes to guarantee access to the prison payphone during the five to seven prime news hours. He doesn't strike me as the kind of person who has a flexible sense of his own sexuality.

dudalb 9th November 2018 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 12496856)
I don't think Zinke would be willing to do what it takes to guarantee access to the prison payphone during the five to seven prime news hours. He doesn't strike me as the kind of person who has a flexible sense of his own sexuality.

And from what I have seen of him on TV in interviews he does not come off very good on camera anyway. So it might be "THanks, but no Thanks" from FOx when it comes to job inquiry.

Tsukasa Buddha 13th November 2018 12:08 AM

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President Trump has had it with Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen and plans to fire her as soon as John Kelly allows it, the Washington Post reports. Nielsen’s predecessor and her longtime champion,Kelly is the only thing standing in Trump’s way at this point. The Post reports that he’s “fighting Nielsen’s pending dismissal and attempting to postpone it,” but Kelly may not have much sway much longer since his “future in the administration also is shaky.”
Linky.

The Great Zaganza 13th November 2018 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsukasa Buddha (Post 12500729)

before Kelly is fired, Trump better have a replacement lined up who knows where the Diet Cokes are, or this entire administration will grind to a halt.

Doubt 13th November 2018 01:25 PM

We're going to need new programs printed up for the player section of the 2019 Executive Branch Hunger Games.

pgwenthold 13th November 2018 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsukasa Buddha (Post 12500729)

Nope, it's Mira Ricardel

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/13/polit...del/index.html

The First Lady insisted she be canned due to a dispute over seating arrangements on the flight to Africa.

a_unique_person 13th November 2018 02:07 PM

Crazy *****. The place will fall apart without Kelly from what I can tell. Is Trump trying to make sure the troops fire on the "caravan".

dudalb 13th November 2018 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by a_unique_person (Post 12501539)
Crazy *****. The place will fall apart without Kelly from what I can tell. Is Trump trying to make sure the troops fire on the "caravan".

Or he will order around non existent troop formations. There is a precedent....

Dr. Keith 13th November 2018 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by a_unique_person (Post 12501539)
Crazy *****. The place will fall apart without Kelly from what I can tell. Is Trump trying to make sure the troops fire on the "caravan".

What caravan?

alfaniner 13th November 2018 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 12501538)
Nope, it's Mira Ricardel

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/13/polit...del/index.html

The First Lady insisted she be canned due to a dispute over seating arrangements on the flight to Africa.

I don't even see how this is possible. The First Lady is not an elected, or even appointed, position. How could she have any say in the government of the country?

Norman Alexander 13th November 2018 03:28 PM

Ninja'd. Ricardel. And also possibly Nielsen, and then Kelly.

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The president was reportedly considering replacements for the White House chief of staff, John Kelly, and Kirstjen Nielsen, the secretary of the department of homeland security. Reports surfaced late on Monday that Trump was preparing to remove Nielsen, a close ally of Kelly’s with whom the president has grown frustrated over immigration enforcement.

The Washington Post reported on Monday that Nielsen’s departure, although not yet finalized, is imminent.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e-house-latest

Soon, Trump will be all alone in the White House, with nobody to blame.

dudalb 13th November 2018 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 12501591)
I don't even see how this is possible. The First Lady is not an elected, or even appointed, position. How could she have any say in the government of the country?

Hoo boy, could I give you historical examples of a ruler's wife being a ppwer behind the throne.........
You always have two kinds of political power: official and unofficial.

dudalb 13th November 2018 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12501613)
Ninja'd. Ricardel. And also possibly Nielsen, and then Kelly.



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e-house-latest

Soon, Trump will be all alone in the White House, with nobody to blame.

And Zinke (Interior) will be gone before the year is out, according to most reports.

Norman Alexander 13th November 2018 03:54 PM

Whoever Trump appoints to these positions, given he even does, perhaps they should be told not to unpack their stuff too fast. Save them the trouble of packing it all up when they "do a Mooch" and leave the next week.

Trebuchet 13th November 2018 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12501617)
Hoo boy, could I give you historical examples of a ruler's wife being a ppwer behind the throne.........
You always have two kinds of political power: official and unofficial.

Edith Wilson was defacto president for the last year or so of her husband's presidency after he had a stroke. And then there was Nancy Reagan, and her astrologer.

AnonyMoose 13th November 2018 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12501613)
Ninja'd. Ricardel. And also possibly Nielsen, and then Kelly.



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e-house-latest

Soon, Trump will be all alone in the White House, with nobody to blame.


Not true.

There's plenty of cleaning staff for him to freely use as his patsy-on-demand.

alfaniner 13th November 2018 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12501613)
Soon, Trump will be all alone in the White House, with nobody to blame.

First, they came for the FBI Director. And I said nothing...

The Great Zaganza 13th November 2018 07:58 PM

I am curious to see if Melania does or does not get to fire someone.

varwoche 13th November 2018 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith (Post 12501546)
What caravan?

Indeed. We haven't heard one damn syllable about this looming crisis that was so severe it required a military deployment.

This is about all I'm able to glean about the Caravan:
YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the ISF. The ISF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.
I AGREE

Stacyhs 13th November 2018 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by varwoche (Post 12501797)
Indeed. We haven't heard one damn syllable about this looming crisis that was so severe it required a military deployment.

This is about all I'm able to glean about the Caravan:
YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the ISF. The ISF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.
I AGREE

Trump can only concentrate on one thing at a time. Today it's the Dems stealing votes in Florida.:rolleyes:

Puppycow 13th November 2018 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 12501591)
I don't even see how this is possible. The First Lady is not an elected, or even appointed, position. How could she have any say in the government of the country?

It's a bit unusual for the office of the First Lady to put out an official statement calling for someone to be fired, but it's not the first time a First Lady has fired someone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_...ce_controversy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Regan

Norman Alexander 13th November 2018 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AnonyMoose (Post 12501769)
Not true.

There's plenty of cleaning staff for him to freely use as his patsy-on-demand.

Nope. He doesn't like them touching his stuff.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/t...18-1?r=US&IR=T

(TBH, I wouldn't touch his stuff with a ten-foot barge-pole.)

ponderingturtle 14th November 2018 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by varwoche (Post 12501797)
Indeed. We haven't heard one damn syllable about this looming crisis that was so severe it required a military deployment.

This is about all I'm able to glean about the Caravan:
YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the ISF. The ISF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.
I AGREE

Admittedly the deployed military isn't actually doing anything anymore, it was all just an election stunt and I am sure the military is happy to be used to bolster the presidents polls.

dudalb 14th November 2018 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12501766)
Edith Wilson was defacto president for the last year or so of her husband's presidency after he had a stroke. And then there was Nancy Reagan, and her astrologer.

Go overseas, and you have Madame Du Barry, who Ran France while mistress of Louis the 15th, and perhaps most destructively, the Empress Alexandria, wife of the Tsar Nicholas the Second, who could pretty much bend the Tsar around her finger, and herself was pretty much controlled by Rasputin.

Craig4 14th November 2018 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12501766)
Edith Wilson was defacto president for the last year or so of her husband's presidency after he had a stroke. And then there was Nancy Reagan, and her astrologer.

Nancy Reagan had the good sense and grace to mother **** Donald Regan behind closed doors. There were enough rumors to make sure everyone knew it was her but she did it how a first lady should. No one elected the president's latest bimbo so she should be not using her spokesperson to advocate on issues of governance.

Babbylonian 14th November 2018 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 12502806)
Nancy Reagan had the good sense and grace to mother **** Donald Regan behind closed doors. There were enough rumors to make sure everyone knew it was her but she did it how a first lady should. No one elected the president's latest bimbo so she should be not using her spokesperson to advocate on issues of governance.

For some reason, it seems even worse that she's "officially" advocating for the firing of the deputy national security advisor. Nancy not only knew not to issue any press releases, but she went for arguably the biggest game in the person of the President's chief of staff.

Of course, going after anybody on the basis of personal animus (almost certainly the case here) is just plain wrong. At the end of the day, the idea behind giving the President's spouse special status and funding is that s/he will support the President, and the agenda of the first spouse will not interfere with the workings of the rest of the government.

TheSupermeerkat 14th November 2018 04:06 PM

White House Survivor
 
Whoops! Posted in wrong thread.

Stacyhs 14th November 2018 04:23 PM

Ricardel has been fired as Deputy NS Adviser. Will get new post elsewhere in admin.

dudalb 14th November 2018 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Babbylonian (Post 12502836)
For some reason, it seems even worse that she's "officially" advocating for the firing of the deputy national security advisor. Nancy not only knew not to issue any press releases, but she went for arguably the biggest game in the person of the President's chief of staff.

Of course, going after anybody on the basis of personal animus (almost certainly the case here) is just plain wrong. At the end of the day, the idea behind giving the President's spouse special status and funding is that s/he will support the President, and the agenda of the first spouse will not interfere with the workings of the rest of the government.

Melenia's big mistake was forgetting that the key to being a power behind the throne is to stay out of sight behind the throne.

dudalb 14th November 2018 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 12502872)
Ricardel has been fired as Deputy NS Adviser. Will get new post elsewhere in admin.

So Melenia is now Wormtongue and Trump is now senile Théoden. Nice.

But I am not seeing any news reports that Ricardel has been fired.

alfaniner 14th November 2018 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12502879)
So Melenia is now Wormtongue and Trump is now senile Théoden. Nice.

But I am not seeing any news reports that Ricardel has been fired.

No, just "transferred to a non-functional position".

Stacyhs 14th November 2018 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12502879)
So Melenia is now Wormtongue and Trump is now senile Théoden. Nice.

But I am not seeing any news reports that Ricardel has been fired.

Fired from her job as Deputy NS Adviser. She will be assigned to a different position in the administration. Per CNN.

a_unique_person 14th November 2018 05:25 PM

Chief coffee fetcher.

Trebuchet 14th November 2018 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by a_unique_person (Post 12502925)
Chief coffee covfefe fetcher.

FTFY

Dr. Keith 15th November 2018 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12502877)
Melenia's big mistake was forgetting that the key to being a power behind the throne is to stay out of sight behind the throne.

She got what she wanted. She showed that she can make Cheeto actually look stupid in a way that he cares about. That was an outright assertion of power. I don't think it was a mistake at all.

Babbylonian 15th November 2018 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith (Post 12504009)
She got what she wanted. She showed that she can make Cheeto actually look stupid in a way that he cares about. That was an outright assertion of power. I don't think it was a mistake at all.

I think what she showed is that she's got enough dirt on Trump that he can't afford to ignore her express wishes. There's no way he gives in unless he's scared. He doesn't respect women enough otherwise, especially if they're dumb enough to marry him.

Stacko 15th November 2018 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Babbylonian (Post 12504024)
I think what she showed is that she's got enough dirt on Trump that he can't afford to ignore her express wishes. There's no way he gives in unless he's scared. He doesn't respect women enough otherwise, especially if they're dumb enough to marry him.

I don't think he wants to add divorce to his legal woes.

dudalb 15th November 2018 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith (Post 12504009)
She got what she wanted. She showed that she can make Cheeto actually look stupid in a way that he cares about. That was an outright assertion of power. I don't think it was a mistake at all.

She also picked an easy target.Apparently Ricardel had alienated almost everybody in the Trump White House, including John Kelly. her departure might have been just a matter of time.

Craig4 15th November 2018 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 12501591)
I don't even see how this is possible. The First Lady is not an elected, or even appointed, position. How could she have any say in the government of the country?

All first ladies do. Most of them have the good sense to wield a subtle knife instead of cudgel.


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