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The Don 15th October 2020 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13258512)
CSPAN tweeted

@cspan
Sen. @tedcruz: "Twitter is actively blocking, right now this instant, stories from the New York Post...on Tuesday, the Judiciary Committee, the full committee, will be voting on subpoenas to subpoena @Jack Dorsey to come before our committee."

I wonder if Ted Cruz honestly believes that the story in the New York Post is credible or whether, as usual, he is just pushing the party line.

If he receives a subpoena, Jack Dorsey should follow President Trump's lead and tell him to stuff it. If they continue to come after him, he should ban the President from Twitter. ;)

JoeMorgue 15th October 2020 09:03 AM

You see that's why most Dictator wannabes start their own propaganda network instead of just assuming a social media network is going to be okay with doing it.

Regnad Kcin 15th October 2020 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13258356)
Goddamn you wouldn't accept that level of sloppy, non-existent chain of custody for a video game save file you downloaded off of Limewire.

The Bush League just sent a note: “Yeah, no, sorry. We have our standards.”

Babbylonian 15th October 2020 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13258512)
CSPAN tweeted

@cspan
Sen. @tedcruz: "Twitter is actively blocking, right now this instant, stories from the New York Post...on Tuesday, the Judiciary Committee, the full committee, will be voting on subpoenas to subpoena @Jack Dorsey to come before our committee."

Wouldn't it be more effective to subpoena the scum making the claims? Get that totally real evidence against the Bidens into the congressional record!

The Great Zaganza 15th October 2020 09:40 AM

The Trumpstilkins need to amplify the NYP story when Twitter won't let them.

Horatius 15th October 2020 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13258487)
As far as I can see, Republican voters seem perfectly content with the current state of the party. President Trump has 95% approval (even Gallup gives him high 80's low 90's) and all GOP representatives seem to be in lockstep when it comes to casting doubt on the election.

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlosy (Post 13258499)
And if you do so it only shows how deep engrained the dem-deep-state is. Going after fine reps with fake arguments.
It's a disgrace.
Biggest scandal in the universe!
We gotta stop 'em!


And those are exactly the sorts of people who's opinions I've started to not care one whit about. **** them. If it takes them a decade of utter powerlessness under a solidly Democratic government that officially doesn't give a **** about pandering to them to finally get them to realize how badly they've ****** up, then that's what will have to happen.


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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13258517)
I wonder if Ted Cruz honestly believes that the story in the New York Post is credible or whether, as usual, he is just pushing the party line.

If he receives a subpoena, Jack Dorsey should follow President Trump's lead and tell him to stuff it. If they continue to come after him, he should ban the President from Twitter. ;)


And Cruz is one of those people who has to suffer. There's no way he's stupid enough to actually believe any of this nonsense, and so, he's one of the people complicit in allowing criminality to flourish in his party. Fix your own ****, Teddy, before thinking you can fix the whole country.

Captain_Swoop 15th October 2020 10:23 AM

Giuliani is now changing the Hunter Biden laptop story.
The shop owner told the NY Post he couldn't identify who dropped off the laptop.
Giuliani, who wasn't there, said on Sirius XM today "was left by Hunter Biden, in an inebriated, heavily inebriated state with the merchant."

Post story said the owner was able to identify the ownership b/c "the laptop bore a sticker from the Beau Biden Foundation."
Giuliani says now he has a document "signed by Hunter Biden says that after 90 days the hard drive is abandoned & it becomes the property of the merchant"

also from the SiriusXM interview:
"I've rarely seen one as bad as this, and I used to be head of narcotics prosecutions. I have so many photographs of him stoned or whatever you call the right term for being on crack, that I wonder if he ever had a chance to work"

The Don 15th October 2020 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13258622)
Giuliani is now changing the Hunter Biden laptop story.
The shop owner told the NY Post he couldn't identify who dropped off the laptop.
Giuliani, who wasn't there, said on Sirius XM today "was left by Hunter Biden, in an inebriated, heavily inebriated state with the merchant."

How does he get away with lying so blatantly ?

Why isn't he called out on these lies ?

Why isn't he asked to provide any kind of evidence ?

The Great Zaganza 15th October 2020 10:27 AM

Hunter Biden should have a really easy libel lawsuit case here.

Against Guiliani, Bannon, the NYP, Fox, OANN and the shop owner.

Trebuchet 15th October 2020 10:28 AM

Remember when he was "Lyin' Ted"? And now he kisses that guy's butt.

Oh, and his wife is ugly!

Stacyhs 15th October 2020 11:04 AM

We know the Russians want Trump re-elected. We know they're interfering again. This would not surprise me one bit:
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Source says the Hunter Biden laptop controversy hints at a Russian disinformation operation.

An Estonian intelligence official with extensive knowledge of Russian disinformation techniques says that the Hunter Biden computer email scandal has hints of a Russian disinformation operation.

In a typical Russian disinformation operation, the official, who cannot be named for security reasons, said real documents are salted with forged or manipulated information and then presented in a way that news media — and social media — cannot resist.

ponderingturtle 15th October 2020 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 13258631)
Remember when he was "Lyin' Ted"? And now he kisses that guy's butt.

Oh, and his wife is ugly!

I heard it was his dad who killed kennedy and that Teddy was born in canada and so not a real american!

Stacyhs 15th October 2020 11:08 AM

Ted Cruz is another example of how low the Republican Party has fallen.

The Great Zaganza 15th October 2020 11:10 AM

Laundering Russian Disinformation requires someone willing to launder it - like Republicans and their propaganda channels.
Just like Russians required Trump to launder their money.

The Great Zaganza 15th October 2020 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13258673)
Ted Cruz is another example of how low the Republican Party has fallen.

Prime example are all the fiscal conservatives and Tea Party fanatics who gladly ballooned the deficit the moment they were in power.

Captain_Swoop 15th October 2020 11:17 AM

Trump is speechifying again praising extra-judicial killings to cheers.

"We sent in the US Marshals, they knew who he was, they didn’t want to arrest him and 15 minutes that ended."


"She's toying with those Democrat, evil people. They're evil" -on Amy Coney Barrett


Trump points at the journalists and says "Look how innocent they look, and they're not innocent. They're not innocent. The enemy of the people. I call them the enemy of the people. But anyway. So, the suburban women should love Trump."

Captain_Swoop 15th October 2020 11:20 AM

"The glass ceiling broke her, but there will be a woman that breaks the glass ceiling, it just won't be Hillary. And you know who else it won't be? It won't be Kamala, but I'm very concerned about her, because 2 people that travel with her, they have tested positive"

Captain_Swoop 15th October 2020 11:33 AM

"African American unemployment, Hispanic American unemployment, Asian American unemployment, all reached, in history, record highs. Highest in history" He seems confused about how unemployment rates work.

ponderingturtle 15th October 2020 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13258712)
"African American unemployment, Hispanic American unemployment, Asian American unemployment, all reached, in history, record highs. Highest in history" He seems confused about how unemployment rates work.

Or he is just celebrating the relative win for white people.

Fast Eddie B 15th October 2020 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TofuFighter (Post 13258140)

I see no hint of folksy humour or self-deprecation.

Nor do I. But his crowds do seem to eat it up.

jerrywayne 15th October 2020 11:49 AM

Every thing, person, or institution President Trump touches turns to dung.

https://www.propublica.org/article/i...ontent=feature

Captain_Swoop 15th October 2020 12:14 PM

Trump Tweets

If Big Tech persists, in coordination with the mainstream media, we must immediately strip them of their Section 230 protections. When government granted these protections, they created a monster!

Captain_Swoop 15th October 2020 12:16 PM

"they didn't want to arrest him"

Will the US Marshals disavow the President's description of their conduct as an extrajudicial killing?

Trump either confessed to ordering an assassination, or accused the US Marshals of murder. Which is it?

The Great Zaganza 15th October 2020 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerrywayne (Post 13258735)
Every thing, person, or institution President Trump touches turns to dung.

https://www.propublica.org/article/i...ontent=feature

They should have quit en masse instead of covering for Trump.
Unlawful or immoral orders shouldn't be followed.
The CDC brought this on itself for putting the Executive above the Science.

Captain_Swoop 15th October 2020 12:20 PM

Trump Retweeted
The Washington Times
@WashTimes
Hunter Biden demanded Chinese billionaire pay $10 million for ‘introductions alone’
Hunter Biden was receiving a $10 million annual fee from a Chinese billionaire who has been accused of corruption and with whom he sought to increase the cash flow with a joint business ownership
washingtontimes.com

Babbylonian 15th October 2020 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13258768)
"they didn't want to arrest him"

Will the US Marshals disavow the President's description of their conduct as an extrajudicial killing?

Trump either confessed to ordering an assassination, or accused the US Marshals of murder. Which is it?

At any moment, the gun lovers and militia types will rise up against Trump because of his support of federal agents committing murder against suspects.

I'll wait...

Armitage72 15th October 2020 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13258768)
"they didn't want to arrest him"

Will the US Marshals disavow the President's description of their conduct as an extrajudicial killing?

Trump either confessed to ordering an assassination, or accused the US Marshals of murder. Which is it?


Over in the fascism thread, it was shown that this quote was taken out of context. "They" refers to the state police, not the Marshals.

"And the man that shot another innocent man, this was an innocent man shot, killed, instantly killed. I said, "what happened?" "Well we haven't arrested him". Two days, three days went by. We sent in the US Marshalls. Took 15 minutes, it was over. 15 minutes it was over, we got him. They knew who he was, they didn't want to arrest him. 15 minutes that ended."

ponderingturtle 15th October 2020 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Armitage72 (Post 13258813)
Over in the fascism thread, it was shown that this quote was taken out of context. "They" refers to the state police, not the Marshals.

"And the man that shot another innocent man, this was an innocent man shot, killed, instantly killed. I said, "what happened?" "Well we haven't arrested him". Two days, three days went by. We sent in the US Marshalls. Took 15 minutes, it was over. 15 minutes it was over, we got him. They knew who he was, they didn't want to arrest him. 15 minutes that ended."

Yea because it is unthinkable that a man who liked the chinese response to protests in Tianamen square could possibly endorse extra judicial killings.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...trength-2019-6

Clearly the marshals needed more tanks to get it right.

Armitage72 15th October 2020 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ponderingturtle (Post 13258816)
Yea because it is unthinkable that a man who liked the chinese response to protests in Tianamen square could possibly endorse extra judicial killings.


Yes, it's believable, but he already says enough stupid stuff that people don't need to hurt their case by distorting things he said.

Captain_Swoop 15th October 2020 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armitage72 (Post 13258813)
Over in the fascism thread, it was shown that this quote was taken out of context. "They" refers to the state police, not the Marshals.

"And the man that shot another innocent man, this was an innocent man shot, killed, instantly killed. I said, "what happened?" "Well we haven't arrested him". Two days, three days went by. We sent in the US Marshalls. Took 15 minutes, it was over. 15 minutes it was over, we got him. They knew who he was, they didn't want to arrest him. 15 minutes that ended."

You actually believe that?

haha

Trebuchet 15th October 2020 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerrywayne (Post 13258735)
Every thing, person, or institution President Trump touches turns to dung.

https://www.propublica.org/article/i...ontent=feature

Great article. But that drawing of Trump at the top is amazingly flattering.

Ladewig 15th October 2020 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horatius (Post 13258603)
And those are exactly the sorts of people who's opinions I've started to not care one whit about. **** them. If it takes them a decade of utter powerlessness under a solidly Democratic government that officially doesn't give a **** about pandering to them to finally get them to realize how badly they've ****** up, then that's what will have to happen.

And no it is my turn to accuse you of being too generous.
If they spend 10 years in the wilderness with no one pandering to them, then they are not going to say, “we ***** up when we threw away our moral compass and trampled on the rights of people in our unslakeable thirst for power. What we did was wrong and we should work hard to ensure that neither our party nor any other party walks down that path. We must work to ensure checks and balances as well as the rule of law remain the cornerstone of our country.”

At best. . at best....they will say, “We ******* up. We ***** up when we got caught. We must take steps so that we will never be caught again.”

Oh, and that 10 years out of power will simply be a decade of them accusing the Democrats of everything that the Republicans have ever done. And they will succeed in that for one reason: Americans are pig ignorant. I’m betting that if the Republicans really wanted to, they could convince 15-20% of US adults to believe that Nixon was a Democratic President.”

Skeptic Ginger 15th October 2020 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Aridas (Post 13258193)
To poke another thing - if you happen to live in California, be warned.

California Republican Party says it won't take down illegal 'ballot boxes' despite state orders

Really short version? The California GOP is putting up a bunch of very insecure boxes claiming to be ballot boxes managed by unidentified GOP members.

Also of particular note -

This is not what's happening, it's what the news media is making headlines out of.

They are collecting GOP ballots in GOP locations: inside campaign headquarters, inside churches and inside gun stores.

Skeptic Ginger 15th October 2020 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13258693)
Trump is speechifying again praising extra-judicial killings to cheers.

"We sent in the US Marshals, they knew who he was, they didn’t want to arrest him and 15 minutes that ended."


"She's toying with those Democrat, evil people. They're evil" -on Amy Coney Barrett


Trump points at the journalists and says "Look how innocent they look, and they're not innocent. They're not innocent. The enemy of the people. I call them the enemy of the people. But anyway. So, the suburban women should love Trump."

Zig cleared this up with the full quote.

"They" referred to the police.

Captain_Swoop 15th October 2020 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 13258896)
Zig cleared this up with the full quote.

"They" referred to the police.

Bollocks, that's his interpretation. he's reaching for that.

Skeptic Ginger 15th October 2020 02:52 PM

Come on people, there is so much **** out there about Trump and his Trumpanzees, we don't need to spread false stuff ourselves!

Skeptic Ginger 15th October 2020 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13258900)
Bollocks, that's his interpretation. he's reaching for that.

Alright, what's the full quote. We can see for ourselves

If Zig was wrong I'll delete my post and apologize.

My other info about the GOP ballot boxes in CA came from an NPR interview that I linked to earlier.

Captain_Swoop 15th October 2020 02:57 PM

What is false, he is pleased and excited that the Feds just shot the guy out of hand. It's the way he thinks the law should work. He has history here right back to the central Park 5.
Due Process is not something he cares about.

Skeptic Ginger 15th October 2020 03:08 PM

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Minute 2:30 - Trump says there has to be retributions.

That on its own is atrocious.

I'm hunting for the rest of it.

TragicMonkey 15th October 2020 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 13258904)
Come on people, there is so much **** out there about Trump and his Trumpanzees, we don't need to spread false stuff ourselves!

There's also already a more than sufficient supply of shouting. I don't feel "we" need to add to that.


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