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[quote=yankee451;12939544]I am capable of doing my own thinking.[quote]I see no evidence of such activity. Have you some to offer?
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[quote=abaddon;12939562][quote=yankee451;12939544]I am capable of doing my own thinking.
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Yes the "live" views were from the east and north viewpoints, Other videos show the same plane hitting the tower from the south, for those that haven't seen them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YLm3pkAiJQ 11 minute video with timestamps for ease of watching 3:39, 4:56, 5:37* best image of a plane hitting the tower, 6:28, 8:44, 9:11 ( doesn't show the plane hitting the tower as a building in in the way), 10:18. In all views along the way, a plane approaches the tower and slams into it. You may ignore the fact that it was a plane, but prudent individuals will not agree with your view. |
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This is a wingtip from a 767. http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uplo...0278c1d4_b.jpg We are to believe that this wingtip was only massive enough and wide enough to cause this little pinch to the aluminum cladding: http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uplo...d-cladding.png But a few feet away it was massive enough, and big enough, to sharply bend steel columns in a different direction than the wingtip was traveling. https://911crashtest.org/wp-content/...t-1024x788.jpg |
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The flattened, burned part was due to whatever large, hot, heavy thing was attached to the wing at that position. I cannot think what that might have been. Can you?
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Luc Courchesne Michael Hezarkhani |
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There were and are flight restrictions in place over Manhattan before and during 9-11. The TV coverage focused on the gaping hole from the first aircraft in the North Tower because that's where the action was taking place. News camera operators will always focus on the action. |
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In detail, please. |
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If I hit a telephone pole at 5mph with my pickup truck I get a dent in my truck with no damage to the pole. If I hit that same pole at 100mph I can snap it as my engine blows through the fire wall and crushes my lower body. I can take a marble-sized piece of lead and throw it at a beer can and knock the can over, but if I mount that same piece of lead into a brass casing filled with Cordite and fire it from a .45 it will pass through the can, and the can will go flying. Physics isn't just fun, it's the law. |
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Manhattan and NYC at large is the MEDIA CAPITAL OF THE WORLD. On any given day on just about any street in Manhattan, certainly in the East Village you are going to run into a world class photographer, just like you'll run into Playwrights, actors, fashion designers, and up until last year - Jeffrey Epstein. The fact is that it would be harder to believe that no award winning photographers were in the area on 9-11. |
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Please tell us how this was faked again.
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Remember, his footage was not shown "live." He is a pro. Editing his shot would only take a few minutes. He rehearsed his shot and fabricated a 2D CGI animation of a jet with a transparent background, so as to have it ready to go from the same perspective as he would capture the shock and awe explosion. He captured footage of the undamaged towers from the same perspective. Using layer masks he used footage of the undamaged tower as a curtain that hid the real means used to cut the hole. By the time the fireball erupted, the hole was already cut, but hidden behind the mask layer. The CGI plane enters the frame a split second before the fireball erupts through the real hole (still hidden behind the mask layer). The Plane layer is just another layer on top of the mask layer. After the plane layer melts like butter into the mask layer of the undamaged tower (accompanied by drawn-on smoke), the mask layer is removed to reveal the fireball erupting through the hole. Easy peasy. |
I wouldn't put much stock in Steve's photo interpretation skills, which more often than not have proved to be hilariously misguided, to be polite.. My personal favorite is the one which Steve mistakes a ******* tree for blast damage:
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For context, the movie Avatar, widely considered to be a breakthrough in realistic computer animation, came out eight years after 9/11. |
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1. The strain of the engine mounts. When jet engines are running at full power for takeoff, the amount of force exerted by the thrust of the engine against the wing is enormous, and 2, The strain of the the main undercarriage. This needs to be built strong enough to withstand impact of the whole 120,000 kg weight of the aircraft as the wheels touch the ground with a horizontal speed of about 140 kts, and vertical speed of 120 fpm There are also three flap tracks in each wing (the 4th flap track is right against the fuselage) |
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3. And when they collide with steel buildings, they take a hard right turn. |
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I was thousands of miles away in NZ watching the breaking news on CNN when I saw the second plane hit the South Tower. People in the streets of NY saw it at the same time I did - how do you explain this? |
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Just because a 767 wing looks consistently rugged from root to tip does not mean it is. Wing strength varies significantly along its length, and also depends on the fixtures it has connected and that it contains. The inner wing is very strong and rigid - it will carry the load of the aircraft as it lands. But the outer wing is quite flexible and contains only fuel tanks and some flap running gear. Aircraft wingtips for the 767 of 2001 were quite light construction, and were easily replaceable. They contained only wiring and navigation lights and aerials, and bolted onto the end of the main wing frame. They contained no load-bearing frame themselves. Their prime purpose was to cover off the end of the wing and make it somewhat aerodynamic. But why am I telling you this? You aren't going to listen. :rolleyes: |
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