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Monza 11th September 2020 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 13219558)
Probably the same outfit that sells the cheap Christmas suits.

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Originally Posted by gypsyjackson (Post 13219827)
I don’t have any fondness for building walls, but that is a fun suit. I wouldn’t pair it with a brick tie, though.

I bought one of the Opposuits with the Christmas theme a couple years ago. Yes, they are cheaply made, but lots of fun. I wore it to my wife's company Christmas party at a senior living community. The residents loved it! Much better than dressing up in a regular suit with a Santa hat.

They have other themes available too. If they made one with masks printed all over it, I'd probably get it.


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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13219559)
Only an idiot would dress like that. I rest my case.

Oh. :(

Steve 11th September 2020 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Monza (Post 13220083)
I bought one of the Opposuits with the Christmas theme a couple years ago. Yes, they are cheaply made, but lots of fun. I wore it to my wife's company Christmas party at a senior living community. The residents loved it! Much better than dressing up in a regular suit with a Santa hat.

They have other themes available too. If they made one with masks printed all over it, I'd probably get it.




Oh. :(

I was not being critical. They can be fun in the right circumstances. and they have to be cheaply made to sell. I have thought about getting one myself but they don't make them for short fat dudes.

pgwenthold 11th September 2020 05:57 AM

So apparently for Trump's rally last night, the played "Fortunate Son" by CCR.

Which is, literally, a song in opposition to people like Trump and their privilege due to the child of someone rich or famous (and using that to get out of Vietnam).

It's all about projection.

Firestone 11th September 2020 06:00 AM

Slight lack of self-awareness here:

“I don’t want to jump up and down and start screaming ‘Death! Death!’ because that’s not what it’s all about. We have to lead a country,” Trump told reporters. “There has to be a calmness.”

https://twitter.com/TracyJan/status/1304378236890161152

(This tweet obviously starts a thread with examples where there was something else than "calmness" in Trump's utterances.)

Would “There has to be a calmness - Biden-Harris 2020” work?

Steve 11th September 2020 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 13220090)
So apparently for Trump's rally last night, the played "Fortunate Son" by CCR.

Which is, literally, a song in opposition to people like Trump and their privilege due to the child of someone rich or famous (and using that to get out of Vietnam).

It's all about projection.

I don't know. Likely Trump is proud that he was born rich and was/is able to use that to avoid unpleasant things happening to him. He may view that song as displaying positive aspects of his life. Fits in with his **** the poor people outlook.

The Don 11th September 2020 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 13220090)
So apparently for Trump's rally last night, the played "Fortunate Son" by CCR.

Which is, literally, a song in opposition to people like Trump and their privilege due to the child of someone rich or famous (and using that to get out of Vietnam).

It's all about projection.

I'm surprised that John Fogerty allowed it to be used - or hasn't objected after the fact.

Darat 11th September 2020 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Atheist (Post 13219985)
Who's more deluded, Trump, comparing himself to Churchill, or his supporters for listening to it?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donal...b6b48507fea447

Well Churchill was an American so that's one thing they have in common, and both suffer/ed from debilitating mental illness as well.

alfaniner 11th September 2020 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 13219874)
Kathy Gray (NYT correspondent) tweeted two pictures of these idiots, and ... was kicked out of the rally.


Let's never forget that Libruls are snowflakes, though.

I have wondered about this. Doesn't it go directly against the Constitution that government can't stifle free speech? It shouldn't matter whether or not she was a reporter. It wasn't a security issue, either. Same with Plaid Shirt Perplexed Reaction guy behind Trump at a rally a couple of years ago. One of his aides moved in, told him to leave, and took his spot. Wouldn't that be fodder for a lawsuit?

pgwenthold 11th September 2020 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13220116)
I'm surprised that John Fogerty allowed it to be used - or hasn't objected after the fact.

I'm sure they never asked him.

pgwenthold 11th September 2020 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 13220123)
I have wondered about this. Doesn't it go directly against the Constitution that government can't stifle free speech? It shouldn't matter whether or not she was a reporter. It wasn't a security issue, either. Same with Plaid Shirt Perplexed Reaction guy behind Trump at a rally a couple of years ago. One of his aides moved in, told him to leave, and took his spot. Wouldn't that be fodder for a lawsuit?

If this is a campaign event, it's not "government" and they can do what they want, except for those protected groups in the legal code.

The Don 11th September 2020 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 13220124)
I'm sure they never asked him.

For sure, but other artists including Elton John, Bruce Springsteen, The Beatles and Adele have come out publicly to prevent President Trump from using their music.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musici...of_their_music

IMO having your music used at a rally implies support for the cause.

Steve 11th September 2020 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13220116)
I'm surprised that John Fogerty allowed it to be used - or hasn't objected after the fact.

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Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 13220124)
I'm sure they never asked him.

Falls in to the general category of ethics. Trump and his people got none. They will take advantage of anybody and anything steal anything from anybody.

Ladewig 11th September 2020 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 13220100)
I don't know. Likely Trump is proud that he was born rich and was/is able to use that to avoid unpleasant things happening to him. He may view that song as displaying positive aspects of his life. Fits in with his **** the poor people outlook.

I figure President Trump is far too culturally illiterate to be choosing songs for events. That and his considering himself far too important to do that.

So I suspect there were four possible reasons for the aides to choose this song.
They were trying to troll the libruls (haw, haw)
They were mocking Trump.
They thought it would be cool to play a song that included the line “when they play ‘Hail to the Chief’”
They really were that completely clueless.

pgwenthold 11th September 2020 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladewig (Post 13220150)
I figure President Trump is far too culturally illiterate to be choosing songs for events. That and his considering himself far too important to do that.

So I suspect there were four possible reasons for the aides to choose this song.
They were trying to troll the libruls (haw, haw)
They were mocking Trump.
They thought it would be cool to play a song that included the line “when they play ‘Hail to the Chief’”
They really were that completely clueless.

I mean, Reagan played Born in the USA by Springsteen.

It's possible to be "that completely clueless."

shuttlt 11th September 2020 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladewig (Post 13220150)
I figure President Trump is far too culturally illiterate to be choosing songs for events. That and his considering himself far too important to do that.

So I suspect there were four possible reasons for the aides to choose this song.
They were trying to troll the libruls (haw, haw)
They were mocking Trump.
They thought it would be cool to play a song that included the line “when they play ‘Hail to the Chief’”
They really were that completely clueless.

It could also be that they see themselves as anti-establishment, anti-elite, hence the song is intended as a fairly literal evocation of the spirit of the audience. Plus with Trump pulling more troops home, maybe there is a connection there also. I guess one could argue that they may be trying to link trump to the ordinary soldier to push back against the recent attacks on him.

Segnosaur 11th September 2020 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 13220154)
I mean, Reagan played Born in the USA by Springsteen.

Yeah but does anyone know the words to that song, apart from its catch phrases/title "Born in the USA, born and bread in the USA".

phiwum 11th September 2020 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13219559)
Only an idiot would dress like that. I rest my case.

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Originally Posted by shemp (Post 13219734)
I want!

Now I'm puzzled. Did Stacy implicitly call Shemp an idiot, thereby violating the rules?

I ask, because I was tempted to quote both posts and reply "Idiot!" and realized that I'd get dinged for drawing the logical conclusion. So if Stacy isn't guilty of a personal attack on Shemp, the two of them have laid a devious trap for the unwary.

Paul2 11th September 2020 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SezMe (Post 13219847)
There's roughly 60 days to the election. What *else* can Trump come up with that tops this list of disasters.




No, wait. Don't answer that question.

We have not begun to see the what they've got planned. Strap yourself in, it's gonna be bumpy.

phiwum 11th September 2020 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 13220123)
I have wondered about this. Doesn't it go directly against the Constitution that government can't stifle free speech? It shouldn't matter whether or not she was a reporter. It wasn't a security issue, either. Same with Plaid Shirt Perplexed Reaction guy behind Trump at a rally a couple of years ago. One of his aides moved in, told him to leave, and took his spot. Wouldn't that be fodder for a lawsuit?

A campaign event is not an official government function, so I don't see why a sitting president couldn't eject folks from his own event.

Of course, Trump has worked hard to make the difference between governmental and campaign functions hard to spot, but in this case it's fairly clear. This was a campaign rally (but I bet some government bucks were illegitimately spent on it, just because).

Safe-Keeper 11th September 2020 08:19 AM

I don't know when the polls at FiveThirtyEight are conducted, but the poll was last updated today. Approval ratings are holding steady at 41-43%.

Remember: MAGA hat = swastika at this point.

pgwenthold 11th September 2020 08:42 AM

Did you see the video of the President reading the Pledge of Allegiance off the teleprompter this morning? He kind of spoke along with it, but seems to have skipped the 'Under God' part.

Then again, Melania didn't even bother trying.

Just to make it clear, I don't care about anyone reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, and I wouldn't care if the President and the first lady just sat and scanned Twitter on their phone during it. But I'm not the one whining about how they took the pledge out of the DNC or otherwise worshipping the flag.

Imagine if Obama had to use the teleprompter to say the pledge or if Michelle didn't bother?

ferd burfle 11th September 2020 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul2 (Post 13220216)
We have not begun to see the what they've got planned. Strap yourself in, it's gonna be bumpy.


Or in the prophetic words of Samuel L Jackson, “Hold onto your butts!”

https://youtu.be/HKK4KmDlj8U

shemp 11th September 2020 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by phiwum (Post 13220212)
Now I'm puzzled. Did Stacy implicitly call Shemp an idiot, thereby violating the rules?

I ask, because I was tempted to quote both posts and reply "Idiot!" and realized that I'd get dinged for drawing the logical conclusion. So if Stacy isn't guilty of a personal attack on Shemp, the two of them have laid a devious trap for the unwary.

Dammit, we almost got him Stacy!

Ladewig 11th September 2020 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by shuttlt (Post 13220163)
It could also be that they see themselves as anti-establishment, anti-elite, hence the song is intended as a fairly literal evocation of the spirit of the audience. Plus with Trump pulling more troops home, maybe there is a connection there also. I guess one could argue that they may be trying to link trump to the ordinary soldier to push back against the recent attacks on him.

Oh, come on. For them to think that that would work, the campaign would have to believe that Trump supporters were numbskulls who would twist themselves into mental pretzels to blindly support Trump.


OK. I see your point.

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ETA
I came across one saying that Trump’s approach to the pandemic was the right one because the doctors told him to not panic the public.
.

RolandRat 11th September 2020 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 13219874)
Kathy Gray (NYT correspondent) tweeted two pictures of these idiots, and ... was kicked out of the rally.


Let's never forget that Libruls are snowflakes, though.

There's a thing on that Twitter that says she was booted because she didn't have press credentials and was there as a "general guest". Staff apparently informed her she could stay as a guest if she didn't act as press. She chose to continue acting as press so she was asked to leave.

"Gray told Bridge Magazine that she had missed the deadline to get credentials but had tried multiple times to contact the campaign to get them after that and received no response.

She acknowledged that she entered the general admission section of the rally because she didn't have the campaign-issued media credentials.

"They said because I was using my work Twitter account and since I didn't have media credentials I couldn't be working there, and I had to leave," Gray told Bridge"

https://eu.freep.com/story/news/poli...ly/3464799001/

Captain_Swoop 11th September 2020 10:39 AM

trump Tweets

In 2001, our Nation, united under God, made an unbreakable promise never to forget the nearly 3,000 innocent Americans who were senselessly killed on September 11th. On this sacred day — Patriot Day — we solemnly honor that commitment.

Captain_Swoop 11th September 2020 10:42 AM

"I think there's probably, possibly drugs involved. That's what I hear." says Trump during interview with Judge Jeanine,.
Trump casually accuses Joe Biden of using performance enhancing drugs

The Don 11th September 2020 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13220444)
"I think there's probably, possibly drugs involved. That's what I hear." says Trump during interview with Judge Jeanine,.
Trump casually accuses Joe Biden of using performance enhancing drugs

More projection methinks

Captain_Swoop 11th September 2020 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 13220279)
Then again, Melania didn't even bother trying.

Are you saying that the First Lady doesn't pledge her allegiance?

Safe-Keeper 11th September 2020 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13220442)
trump Tweets

In 2001, our Nation, united under God, made an unbreakable promise never to forget the nearly 3,000 innocent Americans who were senselessly killed on September 11th. On this sacred day — Patriot Day — we solemnly honor that commitment.

Oh look, someone got ahold of Trump's phone while he was passed out again.

I suppose they've hidden it, too, and pretend they don't know where it is, so now Trump's looking everywhere for it so he can write something about the beautiful day his tower became the tallest in New York City.

slyjoe 11th September 2020 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13219605)
Whose heart? Acosta or the idiots he talked to?

The man at the rally.

Ryokan 11th September 2020 11:12 AM

USA has passed Italy in corona deaths per capita, and climbing fast.

Currently the 9th hardest hit country in the world. But with the European countries above on the list being pretty stable, that's going to change quickly.

ETA: At least there's no panic, right?

Stacyhs 11th September 2020 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by shemp (Post 13220337)
Dammit, we almost got him Stacy!

There's always tomorrow, Shemp. There's always tomorrow.

The Great Zaganza 11th September 2020 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13220444)
"I think there's probably, possibly drugs involved. That's what I hear." says Trump during interview with Judge Jeanine,.
Trump casually accuses Joe Biden of using performance enhancing drugs

Details, Donald!

What do you think Joe takes to pick himself up?

Cain 11th September 2020 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13220444)
"I think there's probably, possibly drugs involved. That's what I hear." says Trump during interview with Judge Jeanine,.
Trump casually accuses Joe Biden of using performance enhancing drugs

An oldie...

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I AGREE

Stacyhs 11th September 2020 11:48 AM

Tell me with a straight face these people at the Trump rally in Michigan aren't stupid.

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Captain_Swoop 11th September 2020 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13220508)
Details, Donald!

What do you think Joe takes to pick himself up?

When Trump took viagra, he got a stiff neck and an inch taller.
Everyone is saying this

Stacyhs 11th September 2020 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13220560)
When Trump took viagra, he got a stiff neck and an inch taller.
Everyone is saying this

No, those were the bone spurs that did that.

quadraginta 11th September 2020 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Aridas (Post 13219918)
And that conservatives are the ardent defenders of free speech. So ardent that criticism of Trump has far too frequently been a firing offense.


And given his way it could soon become a firing squad offense.

Captain_Swoop 11th September 2020 12:26 PM

They made the same accusation against Hillary. They got away with it then so then figure they can get away with it again. It’s outrageous stuff.
‘I hear,’ he says.


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