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Captain_Swoop 14th September 2020 03:03 PM

Trump Tweets

I didn’t know there would be even a question about this!
Quote Tweet

Julia Davis
@JuliaDavisNews
Trump claims that Putin and Kim Jong-un are more mentally fit than Biden. Still fanboying for dictators.

Captain_Swoop 14th September 2020 03:04 PM

Trump Retweeted

Star Tribune
@StarTribune
Republican Sen. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin said President Trump deserves to win more than one Nobel Peace Prize for his “leadership" and "brilliant negotiating strategy.”

Captain_Swoop 14th September 2020 03:07 PM

Trump Tweets

CBS Philly
@CBSPhilly
JUST IN: A federal judge on Monday struck down Gov. Tom Wolf’s pandemic restrictions that required people to stay at home, placed size limits on gatherings and ordered “non-life-sustaining” businesses to shut down, calling them unconstitutional

KDKA
@KDKA
#BREAKING NEWS: A federal judge has ruled that Gov. Tom Wolf and Dr. Rachel Levine's shutdown order and business closures were unconstitutional.

Josh Caplan
@joshdcaplan
HARRISBURG, P.A. (AP) — Federal judge rules that Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf's pandemic restrictions are unconstitutional.

Sara A. Carter
@SaraCarterDC
#BREAKING PA Gov. Tom Wolf’s #COVID-19 Restrictions Were Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

chrispy 14th September 2020 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13223277)
Trump Tweets

I didn’t know there would be even a question about this!
Quote Tweet

Julia Davis
@JuliaDavisNews
Trump claims that Putin and Kim Jong-un are more mentally fit than Biden. Still fanboying for dictators.

I thought there was no way this was real, and yet I still checked out Agent Orange's twitter feed and... *sigh*

Captain_Swoop 14th September 2020 03:10 PM

Trump Tweets

Next up, the Ballot Hoax!
Quote Tweet

Mark R. Levin
@marklevinshow
Federal judge slaps down PA’s crackpot Democrat governor’s radical shutdown orders

Captain_Swoop 14th September 2020 03:12 PM

Trump Tweets

....And Michigan, and North Carolina. Next up, phony Ballot voting Hoax!

Captain_Swoop 14th September 2020 03:14 PM

Trump Retweeted

Duty To Warn
@duty2warn
Federal Judge Rules Gov Tom Wolf’s PA Shutdown Orders Unconstitutional;
“U.S. District Judge William Stickman IV, an appointee of President Donald Trump, sided with the plaintiffs”
Really all you need to know. Trump judges are gangsters in black robes

Thomas Paine
@Thomas1774Paine
TYRANTS RULED UNCONSTITUTIONAL!! Federal Judge Rules Gov. Tom Wolf, Dr. Rachel Levine’s Shutdown Orders Unconstitutional

John Favero
@JohnFavere
PENNSYLVANIA GOVERNOR TOM WOLF AN YOUR STUPID WIFE .....YOUR NOT GOING TO MURDER US !!! TRUMP 2020 ... WE LOVE PENNSYLVANIA ⁦
@realDonaldTrump


KDKA
@KDKA
"Governor Tom Wolf should not be allowed to defraud the people of the United States!" President Donald Trump tweeted his concerns about mail-in voting in Pennsylvania, sharing a story citing potential issues in the commonwealth.

Captain_Swoop 14th September 2020 03:16 PM

Trump Tweets

“Players take knee, raise fist, stay in locker room, during National Anthem”.
@FoxNews No thanks, tell them to “protest” some other time!

chrispy 14th September 2020 03:17 PM

Geez, Captain Swoop, sometimes I don't know whether to hug you or slap you for trawling such depths.

Captain_Swoop 14th September 2020 03:20 PM

He seems excited about it.

There are lots more retweets by him. I chose the more interesting ones.

Stacyhs 14th September 2020 03:37 PM

Trump: Just when I think he can't get any more disgusting, he goes and proves me wrong.

Captain_Swoop 14th September 2020 04:09 PM

According to Trump, the head of “a forest nation” in Europe told Trump that his country has “far more explosive trees than in California” but because they “manage” their forests, they don’t have fires.

Ladewig 14th September 2020 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13223129)
Trump commenting on climate change at his 'Wildfires' briefing
Trump "It'll start getting cooler, you just watch."
Natural Resources Secretary. "I wish science agreed with you"
Trump "I don't think science knows actually."

He says "exploding trees" are responsible for unprecedented wildfires. "There's no more water pouring through"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13223147)

I'm surprised he didn't claim to know more than science.

Science came to me and asked “how do you know so much about climatology, about weather, and about both the atmosphere and the air around the Earth?”

And then the forestologists came to me and said, “we’re stumped. If we ask nicely, will you tell us which brooms are the best for cleaning forests?”

Ladewig 14th September 2020 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13223332)
According to Trump, the head of “a forest nation” in Europe told Trump that his country has “far more explosive trees than in California” but because they “manage” their forests, they don’t have fires.

The International Business Times was kind enough to offer “It is not clear if the president was speaking figuratively or meant trees explode in a literal sense.


And some say looking at the original quote is not helpful

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trump
“When trees fall down after a short period of time, about 18 months, they become very dry, they become really like a match stick and they get up you know there's no more water pouring through and they become very, very they just explode. They can explode. Also leaves. When you have years of leaves, dried leaves on the ground it just sets it up. It's really a fuel for a fire. So they have to do something about it,"


carlitos 14th September 2020 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ladewig (Post 13223333)
Science came to me and asked “how do you know so much about climatology, about weather, and about both the atmosphere and the air around the Earth?”



And then the forestologists came to me and said, “Sir, we’re stumped. If we ask nicely, will you tell us which brooms are the best for cleaning forests?”



Fixed

turingtest 14th September 2020 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13223296)
Trump Tweets

“Players take knee, raise fist, stay in locker room, during National Anthem”.
@FoxNews No thanks, tell them to “protest” some other time!

Trump and his acolytes seem to have a problem with the players making their protests where they can be seen, which is kind of the point of a protest- "they don't have to make a political statement at the game!" Of course, standing for the anthem with hand over heart is also a political statement, which, oddly, the trumpkins have no problem with. So it would seem that Mr "no cancel culture" Trump is all for cancelling when it's something he doesn't want to see or hear. Maybe a neutral solution? No national anthem? Nah, too easy- Trumpers don't want to just forbid one expression, they want to force their own; and if that isn't cancel culture, I don't know what is.

Craig4 14th September 2020 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13223300)
He seems excited about it.

There are lots more retweets by him. I chose the more interesting ones.

Well, Bolton was just on Blitzer agreeing with LTC Vindman that Trump is Putin's "Useful Idiot". Bolton even laughed out loud when Blitzer gave him the quote. I'm pretty sure Twitter is fixing to explode.

Safe-Keeper 14th September 2020 04:50 PM

Quote:

"When trees fall down after a short period of time, about 18 months, they become very dry, they become really like a match stick and they get up you know there's no more water pouring through and they become very, very they just explode. They can explode. Also leaves. When you have years of leaves, dried leaves on the ground it just sets it up. It's really a fuel for a fire. So they have to do something about it,"
Lots of people don't know that!

Safe-Keeper 14th September 2020 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13223332)
According to Trump, the head of “a forest nation” in Europe told Trump that his country has “far more explosive trees than in California” but because they “manage” their forests, they don’t have fires.

Everything was fine for decades in the forest nation, but then the Fire nation attacked.

Craig4 14th September 2020 04:54 PM

So I've been texting with my two brothers, one lives in Oregon the other Southern California. They report no exploding trees.

Matthew Ellard 14th September 2020 04:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13223332)
According to Trump, the head of “a forest nation” in Europe told Trump that his country has “far more explosive trees than in California” but because they “manage” their forests, they don’t have fires.

I thought that California had large numbers of Eucalyptus trees in the same way as Australia, and Eucalyptus trees (oil) burn well. I assumed that California is simply having the same problem as Australia did eight months ago regardless of different forest management techniques.:)

Steve 14th September 2020 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 13223369)
So I've been texting with my two brothers, one lives in Oregon the other Southern California. They report no exploding trees.

Hm. Must be Democrats.

Norman Alexander 14th September 2020 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve (Post 13223373)
Hm. Must be Democrats.

What, the brothers, or the trees.

Norman Alexander 14th September 2020 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13223286)
Trump Tweets

Next up, the Ballot Hoax!
Quote Tweet

Mark R. Levin
@marklevinshow
Federal judge slaps down PA’s crackpot Democrat governor’s radical shutdown orders

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13223294)
Trump Retweeted

Duty To Warn
@duty2warn
Federal Judge Rules Gov Tom Wolf’s PA Shutdown Orders Unconstitutional;
“U.S. District Judge William Stickman IV, an appointee of President Donald Trump, sided with the plaintiffs”
Really all you need to know. Trump judges are gangsters in black robes

Thomas Paine
@Thomas1774Paine
TYRANTS RULED UNCONSTITUTIONAL!! Federal Judge Rules Gov. Tom Wolf, Dr. Rachel Levine’s Shutdown Orders Unconstitutional

John Favero
@JohnFavere
PENNSYLVANIA GOVERNOR TOM WOLF AN YOUR STUPID WIFE .....YOUR NOT GOING TO MURDER US !!! TRUMP 2020 ... WE LOVE PENNSYLVANIA ⁦
@realDonaldTrump


KDKA
@KDKA
"Governor Tom Wolf should not be allowed to defraud the people of the United States!" President Donald Trump tweeted his concerns about mail-in voting in Pennsylvania, sharing a story citing potential issues in the commonwealth.

As always with anything Trump, nothing is what it he says it is.

Quote:

...
Courts had consistently rejected challenges to Wolf’s power to order businesses to close during the pandemic, and many other governors, Republican and Democrat, undertook similar measures as the virus spread across the country.

“The actions taken by the administration were mirrored by governors across the country and saved, and continue to save lives in the absence of federal action,” says the governor’s office.

Wolf has lifted many of the restrictions since the lawsuit was filed in May, allowing businesses to reopen and canceling a statewide stay-at-home order. But there still are restrictions in place.
...
Pennsylvania has reported that more than 145,000 people statewide have contracted the virus since the beginning of the pandemic. More than 7,800 people have died.
https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020...onstitutional/

SezMe 14th September 2020 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob001 (Post 13222472)
Not even that. It doesn't exist at all.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ida-cuba-biden

Pffft. It exists in Trump's addled brain and that's all that counts.

SezMe 14th September 2020 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13222784)
Trump Retweeted

Lou Dobbs
@LouDobbs
Biden Megadonor Owns The Atlantic, Reportedly Communicates Often With Journalist Behind Anonymously-Sourced Trump Bombshell

SezMe
@SezMe
Trump MegaPropagandist is Fox New. Lead loud mouth, Hannity, talks to Trump often, sometimes multiple times per day.
=======================================
So, Lou, how does that comparison grab you?

SezMe 14th September 2020 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armitage72 (Post 13223262)
Remember the ICE detainees?

Whistleblower Complaint Alleges Mass Hysterectomies at ICE Detention Center





According to the whistleblower, medical staff have been performing hysterectomies with no or questionable consent. For example, a number of patients had the procedure at the same time as being treated for other conditions that they may have not actually had.

Apparently the kobby for Big Hysterectomy has Trump's ear.

Aridas 14th September 2020 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armitage72 (Post 13223262)
Remember the ICE detainees?

Whistleblower Complaint Alleges Mass Hysterectomies at ICE Detention Center





According to the whistleblower, medical staff have been performing hysterectomies with no or questionable consent. For example, a number of patients had the procedure at the same time as being treated for other conditions that they may have not actually had.

*sigh*

It feels like it might be worth taking a step back and reviewing some Early Warning Signs of Fascism. This deals with the Republican party and the way they're running things, of course.

1. Powerful and continuing nationalism - Check
2. Disdain for human rights - This would be yet another in innumerable checks
3. Identification of enemies as a unifying cause - Check
4. Supremacy of the military - I'm going to say that this is not actually a check. There's a lot of lip service, though.
5. Rampant sexism - Check
6. Controlled mass media - This one's a bit tougher to call in general. Mass media is overwhelmingly owned by and therefore controlled by only a very, very few people. It's not as bad as outright state control, but it's a dangerous situation on that front. This, though, is somewhat balanced by less direct reliance on the official mass media for information compared to social media, which has notably different pros and cons, albeit ones that currently seem to make it easier to end up in an ideological bubble. Further, the right-wing "news" sources have actively worked to create such ideological bubbles and largely act as if they were controlled media. So, it's pretty much a conditional yes, for some groups, and a generally dangerous situation but not the case at the moment otherwise.
7. Obsession with national security - Mostly not a check and only lip service to foreign threats. As for the national security threat that is antifa, though.:rolleyes:
8. Religion and government intertwined - Check. Not as blatantly and directly as the people pushing it may prefer, yet, but... things like Muslim bans and multiple Trump officials using government resources to seriously push their faith are plenty good enough to qualify for this.
9. Corporate power protected - Big check
10. Labor power suppressed - Big check
11. Disdain for intellectuals & the arts - check
12. Obsession with crime & punishment - Here's another yes and no one, much as the overriding concern there is more - "Is the person aligned with me?" If so, support and forgiveness for any crimes. If not, they should be condemned and punished harshly - even if it may mean breaking the law, potentially.
13. Rampant cronyism & corruption - Big check
14. Fraudulent elections - For quite a while now, there have been a number of forces in the Republican Party that have been working hard to rig elections in their favor by nigh every route they think they can get away with, with varying levels of success. So yes from the start. As I noted not long ago, though, Trump advisor Roger Stone has now publicly advised Trump to do a bunch of things to take that rigging much further, including outright seizure of large numbers of legitimately cast Democratic ballots.

On the Democrat's side... 7 and 12 are arguably the case, with the note that any excess there is likely due to backlash against how brazenly Trump and his administration have been undermining national security, causing significant harm intentionally for the benefit of a very few, and flouting the laws.

Aridas 14th September 2020 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SezMe (Post 13223452)
Apparently the kobby for Big Hysterectomy has Trump's ear.

In the complaint, it involved one doctor in particular, albeit with support by the people around him, if I read it correctly. I wouldn't assume that Trump's involved directly, though Trump certainly has worked to emphasize (sadly not create) a general culture and trend in ICE that makes it entirely unsurprising, though no less disgusting.

Of note, though, this kind of thing has been documented as having been done to Native American and black women, too, in the past.

This is The End 14th September 2020 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SezMe (Post 13223452)
Apparently the kobby for Big Hysterectomy has Trump's ear.


Hysterectomies in concentration camps are historically to facilitate rape. (See China, Germany, Japan, and well pretty much any place that ever had a concentration camp.) I'm not sure why we would assume it is for a different reason here.

varwoche 14th September 2020 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aridas (Post 13223454)
<snip warning signs of fascism for brevity>

Thanks, I'm going to use this in the fascism thread.

Mumbles 14th September 2020 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by This is The End (Post 13223459)
Hysterectomies in concentration camps are historically to facilitate rape. (See China, Germany, Japan, and well pretty much any place that ever had a concentration camp.) I'm not sure why we would assume it is for a different reason here.

*shrug* It's predictable, as you say. I've pointed out before that nobody should be shocked if we end up finding a m ass grave or three at these privately-run concentration camps - combining overt white supremacism and a clear profit motive in underreporting deaths among inmates is far more than enough tolead a company to simply bury those who die of injury, disease, etc., and continuing to report them as alive.

Stacyhs 14th September 2020 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13223332)
According to Trump, the head of “a forest nation” in Europe told Trump that his country has “far more explosive trees than in California” but because they “manage” their forests, they don’t have fires.

In Joe Biden's America, exploding trees will be bringing violence to the suburbs
and bringing down property values!

dann 14th September 2020 11:03 PM

Trump on global warming: “It’ll start getting cooler. You just watch,” Trump said (CNBC, Sep. 14, 2020)
After all, it worked so well with the virus, which disappeared, like magic, in April ...

Stacyhs 14th September 2020 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dann (Post 13223544)
Trump on global warming: “It’ll start getting cooler. You just watch,” Trump said (CNBC, Sep. 14, 2020)
After all, it worked so well with the virus, which disappeared, like magic, in April ...

Yeah. It's called winter, you moron.

gypsyjackson 14th September 2020 11:09 PM

Is the republican party unable to avoid using Russian imagery in its campaigns?

Guardian article on MAGA ‘Russian jets and small arms’ poster

Firestone 14th September 2020 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13223545)
Yeah. It's called winter, you moron.

Most people don't know that ...
(as Trump would say) :D

The Great Zaganza 14th September 2020 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gypsyjackson (Post 13223548)
Is the republican party unable to avoid using Russian imagery in its campaigns?

Guardian article on MAGA ‘Russian jets and small arms’ video

since this has happened repeatedly, I find it very likely that someone in Russia is sending the Campaign ad material.

Ladewig 15th September 2020 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gypsyjackson (Post 13223548)
Is the republican party unable to avoid using Russian imagery in its campaigns?

Guardian article on MAGA ‘Russian jets and small arms’ poster

Proofreading and fact-checking are for losers.

Dragon 15th September 2020 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gypsyjackson (Post 13223548)
Is the republican party unable to avoid using Russian imagery in its campaigns?

Guardian article on MAGA ‘Russian jets and small arms’ poster

It seems that the AK47 is now the preferred weapon of your friend...


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