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Foster Zygote 3rd November 2020 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13277777)
Hmmmm there's a giant pile of old laptops here at work.

I wonder how many of them are Hunter Biden's?

No more than half.

Darat 4th November 2020 08:07 AM

The October surprise seems to have worked, not seen Hunter win a single state yet.

eerok 4th November 2020 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13281092)
The October surprise seems to have worked, not seen Hunter win a single state yet.

They haven't counted the votes from China yet.

Firestone 7th November 2020 05:45 AM

It's November now, and the only October Surprise was that Hunter Biden owns or owned most laptops in the world.

This being said, where is Bill Barr? What (if anything) is he up to?

Garrison 7th November 2020 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 13285403)
It's November now, and the only October Surprise was that Hunter Biden owns or owned most laptops in the world.

This being said, where is Bill Barr? What (if anything) is he up to?

Writing his CV? Trying to figure out what sort of plea deal he could get from his successor?

AnonyMoose 7th November 2020 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Garrison (Post 13285773)
Writing his CV? Trying to figure out what sort of plea deal he could get from his successor?

Yup. Barr chose the wrong hill to die on.

eerok 7th November 2020 11:55 AM

As much of a toadie as Barr has seemed to be, I don't think he's a full-on, foam-flecked Trump devotee like Rudy. I think Barr just believes that a president has powers beyond the law (in fact, beyond reason). I think he's prepared now to shuffle off with his head down and hope no one notices.

pgwenthold 7th November 2020 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by eerok (Post 13285782)
As much of a toadie as Barr has seemed to be, I don't think he's a full-on, foam-flecked Trump devotee like Rudy. I think Barr just believes that a president has powers beyond the law (in fact, beyond reason). I think he's prepared now to shuffle off with his head down and hope no one notices.

Has Barr been seen since he was diagnosed with COVID?

eerok 7th November 2020 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 13285784)
Has Barr been seen since he was diagnosed with COVID?

Are you sure he was? I thought he was just quarantined. Time to hit the intertubes.

Tero 7th November 2020 01:33 PM

I've lost track of the surprize. What was it? If it was Hunter laptops, how many was the final count?

Dragon 7th November 2020 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tero (Post 13285887)
I've lost track of the surprize. What was it? If it was Hunter laptops, how many was the final count?

Too soon to call - they haven't counted all the mail-in ones yet.

timhau 7th November 2020 01:39 PM

How can I tell my laptop isn't Hunter Biden's?

dirtywick 7th November 2020 01:40 PM

Slap a beau biden sticker on it and try and sell it to Rudy Giuliani. If he buys it, it's hunters

eerok 7th November 2020 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by eerok (Post 13285791)
Are you sure he was? I thought he was just quarantined. Time to hit the intertubes.

Yeah, I don't think Barr was officially declared covid positive, but maybe they buried him out back.

Segnosaur 7th November 2020 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Foster Zygote (Post 13279277)
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Hmmmm there's a giant pile of old laptops here at work.
I wonder how many of them are Hunter Biden's?
No more than half.

Its a proven fact that by this time next year, all laptops will have been in the possession of Hunter Biden at some point in their existence.

CORed 7th November 2020 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragon (Post 13285891)
Too soon to call - they haven't counted all the mail-in ones yet.

I thought it was illegal to count laptops after election day.

CapelDodger 7th November 2020 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by eerok (Post 13285782)
As much of a toadie as Barr has seemed to be, I don't think he's a full-on, foam-flecked Trump devotee like Rudy. I think Barr just believes that a president has powers beyond the law (in fact, beyond reason). I think he's prepared now to shuffle off with his head down and hope no one notices.

I think you should give more weight to Barr's religious beliefs. He may truly have believed that Trump was an instrument of him upstairs, the Big G.

eerok 7th November 2020 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CapelDodger (Post 13286146)
I think you should give more weight to Barr's religious beliefs. He may truly have believed that Trump was an instrument of him upstairs, the Big G.

That certainly could have driven his actions. I don't know a lot about Barr beyond his questionable legal choices. I just have the impression that he was more than simply a suck up in love with reflected power, which some (perhaps many) of Trump's people have been.

Minoosh 7th November 2020 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by eerok (Post 13286169)
That certainly could have driven his actions. I don't know a lot about Barr beyond his questionable legal choices. I just have the impression that he was more than simply a suck up in love with reflected power, which some (perhaps many) of Trump's people have been.

Being seen as a real lawyer was/is important to him I think. I don't know why he seems to have dropped off the face of the earth. He already said a few weeks ago that everything is political which I thought was a startling admission at the time.

He might be thinking, "Yeah, I'm a toady but at least I'm not a hack like Giuliani."

He made himself disappear - that's his October surprise.

A bunch of Congress critters called on him to launch investigations into the election including seizing ballots. Newt Gingrich thinks he should arrest poll workers. Barr hasn't commented on any of this as far as I've seen.

Segnosaur 7th November 2020 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by eerok (Post 13285782)
As much of a toadie as Barr has seemed to be, I don't think he's a full-on, foam-flecked Trump devotee like Rudy. I think Barr just believes that a REPUBLICAN president has powers beyond the law (in fact, beyond reason).

Fixed it for you...

Stacyhs 7th November 2020 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tero (Post 13285887)
I've lost track of the surprize. What was it? If it was Hunter laptops, how many was the final count?

42

eerok 8th November 2020 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Minoosh (Post 13286211)
Being seen as a real lawyer was/is important to him I think. I don't know why he seems to have dropped off the face of the earth. He already said a few weeks ago that everything is political which I thought was a startling admission at the time.

He might be thinking, "Yeah, I'm a toady but at least I'm not a hack like Giuliani."

He made himself disappear - that's his October surprise.

A bunch of Congress critters called on him to launch investigations into the election including seizing ballots. Newt Gingrich thinks he should arrest poll workers. Barr hasn't commented on any of this as far as I've seen.

In a jurisprudential sense, Barr did the right thing by disengaging from the train wreck of the White House at the end, but that could've been just a coincidence. There might be a good story here, but we won't know until (unless?) he shows up again.

I wonder how exposed Barr is to lawsuits and indictments, because he did several things that weren't good law. Still, he may be immune.

Skeptic Ginger 8th November 2020 07:12 PM

I had a thought besides the guy is hiding his COVID, he knows Trump will be ordering him to pull out a dozen lawsuits about vote counts and he just doesn't want to do that given this is the end of his ride. He's still pretending no one has noticed what an idiot he's already been.

eerok 8th November 2020 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 13287230)
I had a thought besides the guy is hiding his COVID, he knows Trump will be ordering him to pull out a dozen lawsuits about vote counts and he just doesn't want to do that given this is the end of his ride. He's still pretending no one has noticed what an idiot he's already been.

Yes, it's very possible that Barr is unwilling to follow the road over the cliff, whether out of an attack of conscience or an act of self-preservation. It's amazing he hasn't popped up, though. Maybe it really is covid. In any case, it's certainly the end of his ride, and good riddance.

The Great Zaganza 8th November 2020 10:38 PM

The ONLY chance Barr has not to sink with Trump is to come out publicly against this effort to undermine the legitimacy of the election.
Coward scum.

Skeptic Ginger 8th November 2020 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by eerok (Post 13287239)
Yes, it's very possible that Barr is unwilling to follow the road over the cliff, whether out of an attack of conscience or an act of self-preservation. It's amazing he hasn't popped up, though. Maybe it really is covid. In any case, it's certainly the end of his ride, and good riddance.

At some point Barr refused to quarantine himself after the Rose Garden super spreader event, then maybe after the exposure prepping Trump for the debate, it was on some news source I can't now find, he did quarantine himself.

Then Giuliani said on a news program that after the debate event everyone tested positive for COVID except him. He named the people that tested positive and it included "Bill".

That was in early Oct. I believe. It's been a month and we saw Barr sometime before his current absence. The dates didn't exactly match up for Barr having COVID now. But it's possible.

Armitage72 9th November 2020 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13287342)
The ONLY chance Barr has not to sink with Trump is to come out publicly against this effort to undermine the legitimacy of the election.
Coward scum.


At which point people will hopefully loudly remind him that he called for anyone protesting a Trump victory to be charged with trying to overthrow the government.

The Great Zaganza 9th November 2020 07:42 AM

People can grow.

Well, some people can.

eerok 9th November 2020 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13287632)
People can grow.

Well, some people can.

To be fair, Barr did grow tiresome.

Stacyhs 9th November 2020 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13287342)
The ONLY chance Barr has not to sink with Trump is to come out publicly against this effort to undermine the legitimacy of the election.
Coward scum.

Barr just OK'd the DOJ to look into claims of voter fraud.

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Attorney General William Barr has authorized federal prosecutors across the U.S. to pursue "substantial allegations" of voting irregularities, if they exist, before the 2020 presidential election is certified, despite little evidence of fraud.

Barr's action comes days after Democrat Joe Biden defeated President Donald Trump and raises the prospect that Trump will use the Justice Department to try to challenge the outcome. It gives prosecutors the ability to go around longstanding Justice Department policy that normally would prohibit such overt actions before the election is certified.
https://www.startribune.com/barr-oks...aud/573021781/

Resume 9th November 2020 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13288619)
Barr just OK'd the DOJ to look into claims of voter fraud.


https://www.startribune.com/barr-oks...aud/573021781/

Well, Trump did just fire Esper, so . . .

Stacyhs 10th November 2020 01:09 AM

The DOJ's top election crimes prosecutor quits after Barr tells federal attorneys to investigate allegations of voting irregularities before the states can certify the results of the election.

The Don 10th November 2020 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13288990)
The DOJ's top election crimes prosecutor quits after Barr tells federal attorneys to investigate allegations of voting irregularities before the states can certify the results of the election.

......doubtless to be replaced by someone with fewer scruples in that regard.

That's the problem with principled individuals resigning - they will be replaced by lackeys loyal to the Trump Administration.

Craig4 10th November 2020 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13289041)
......doubtless to be replaced by someone with fewer scruples in that regard.

That's the problem with principled individuals resigning - they will be replaced by lackeys loyal to the Trump Administration.

Probably not. It's going to be hard to find anyone who would want a job with 2.5 months worth of security and a whole list of variables about future employment. No one knows what the Republicans will look like in a year. Who needs the risk of being radioactive to a party trying to move on past Trump?

I'll also note the USAs out in the districts have resoundingly responded with a, "Yeah, I'll get right on that," to Barr's other questionably legal orders. The DOJ hasn't brought a single case of sedition, even after Barr's guidance to do so.

The Don 10th November 2020 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 13289055)
Probably not. It's going to be hard to find anyone who would want a job with 2.5 months worth of security and a whole list of variables about future employment. No one knows what the Republicans will look like in a year. Who needs the risk of being radioactive to a party trying to move on past Trump?

I'll also note the USAs out in the districts have resoundingly responded with a, "Yeah, I'll get right on that," to Barr's other questionably legal orders. The DOJ hasn't brought a single case of sedition, even after Barr's guidance to do so.

I'm not sure that the GOP will want to move on past President Trump - or more specifically, the Trump base is so important to GOP support that anyone even hinting at failing to support President Trump risks being primaried.

President Trump was a huge draw in the last election, the GOP cannot afford to risk not having that draw in 2022 and 2024 - never mind that the Trump 2024 campaign will start on 21 January 2021.

eerok 10th November 2020 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13289106)
President Trump was a huge draw in the last election, the GOP cannot afford to risk not having that draw in 2022 and 2024 - never mind that the Trump 2024 campaign will start on 21 January 2021.

Well, one could say that Trump's 2024 campaign has already started. I've heard he's planning rallies right now.

Craig4 10th November 2020 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by eerok (Post 13289198)
Well, one could say that Trump's 2024 campaign has already started. I've heard he's planning rallies right now.

Yeah, that concerns me. I'm worried about what he'll encourage his cult to do.

Darat 20th November 2020 07:01 PM

Thought I would bump this as it all seems to have gone very quiet. Surely this is still so important that the parties involved would still be pushing it? I mean children in danger can’t be OK now... You’d almost think there was some other motive than wanting children protected...

One thing I can see is that on a political level the accusations alone were very effective, not seen Hunter win one EC vote.

kookbreaker 20th November 2020 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13301637)
Thought I would bump this as it all seems to have gone very quiet. Surely this is still so important that the parties involved would still be pushing it? I mean children in danger can’t be OK now... You’d almost think there was some other motive than wanting children protected...

One thing I can see is that on a political level the accusations alone were very effective, not seen Hunter win one EC vote.

You must have missed the news! Turns out that on November 5th Hunter was crushed by a huge pile of his own laptops.

DevilsAdvocate 20th November 2020 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13301637)
Thought I would bump this as it all seems to have gone very quiet. Surely this is still so important that the parties involved would still be pushing it? I mean children in danger can’t be OK now... You’d almost think there was some other motive than wanting children protected...

One thing I can see is that on a political level the accusations alone were very effective, not seen Hunter win one EC vote.

Those Hunter laptops disappeared faster than Colorado drones.


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