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mgidm86 14th July 2021 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 13537617)
I think it happened when they saw all the votes they could get from the Evangelical and anti-abortion crowd. I believe Karl Rove called them single issue voters, apparently very reliable single issue voters.

You can see they still court those votes to this day. MTG fits the bill quite nicely.

Repubs have done that for a long time.

I just meant that if the Dems supported puppies and kittens the Repubs would automatically have to be against it because they aren't supposed to agree on anything these days.

mgidm86 14th July 2021 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13537811)
I agree, but I was talking specifically about the Anti Science .particulary the Anti Vax ...stuff that is sweeping the GOP. I remain convinced the religious right i at the root of that.


Who else would be? Like I said nothing new about that.

Norman Alexander 15th July 2021 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by newyorkguy (Post 13537772)
Oops. The Tweet I posted earlier was 'tweeted' by Marj yesterday but...


It was reported Greene’s campaign disputes the account of why the rally was cancelled by Pacific Hills. The Register also noted, "They’re still selling tickets for a rally..." But while they are STILL advertising the event, a new location has yet to be found and time is running out.

But when the 'Brain Trust' put their minds to it, anything is possible. Correct? ;)

There's always here...

gnome 15th July 2021 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkCorrigan (Post 13537558)
I was under the impression that it made him more a sympathetic idiot, like Homer Simpson.

It may be, and I think that was of appropriate intent. If you want the chance of satire hitting home, the target must be able to identify with the character. If you avoid any positive characterization, the point can fly over one's head and just reassure "that's not me."

Or, if you want to leave intended messaging out of it--if the character is completely unlikeable he's less interesting.

The Don 15th July 2021 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13537547)
You're partially correct. The satire was not removed and Archie Bunker remained the butt of all the jokes. The show exposed him as a racist right-winger and he always ended up looking stupid.

Then again, that would have sailed clear over the heads of a significant proportion of the audience and they would simply have revelled in Archie Bunker's reactionary and racist views. :(

wareyin 15th July 2021 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13538249)
Then again, that would have sailed clear over the heads of a significant proportion of the audience and they would simply have revelled in Archie Bunker's reactionary and racist views. :(

I've had more than one acquaintance use Archie Bunker as their Facebook profile picture.

ponderingturtle 15th July 2021 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13537646)
Sad thing is a lot of Republicans are in denial about what the party has become.

Naa they just don't care as long as the stock market keeps going up.

gnome 15th July 2021 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wareyin (Post 13538252)
I've had more than one acquaintance use Archie Bunker as their Facebook profile picture.

Ahh the sort of person that would say "You can't put a show like Archie Bunker on the air anymore, nobody would let you."

MarkCorrigan 15th July 2021 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by newyorkguy (Post 13537642)
Back to MTG. She'll be appearing live with Matt Gaetz Saturday night at an America First rally in Orange County California. Marj and Matt are sounding the alarm, President Biden is hacking kids' text messages in order to track them and vax them. Sure, that sounds logical, right kids? :rolleyes:

I've worked it out! Gaetz looks like Jim Carey cosplaying as Max Headroom.

Belz... 15th July 2021 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkCorrigan (Post 13538830)
I've worked it out! Gaetz looks like Jim Carey cosplaying as Max Headroom.

I will never be able to shake that image, now.

newyorkguy 15th July 2021 05:17 PM

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They done it. Found a venue. The Riverside Convention Center in Riverside California, located about 25 miles east of Anaheim.
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Republican U.S. Reps. Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene have moved Saturday’s planned America First rally east, from Orange County to Riverside, after their original venue abruptly canceled them last week and their teams spent a week trying to find a new O.C. location. Riverside Press Enterprise link
This was the part I liked. Gaetz and Greene said they won’t share where the event will be held until Friday, citing “security concerns.”

Okay, sure.
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Greene’s spokesman Nick Dyer confirmed the move to Riverside on Thursday.
Right on, Nick! ;)

Norman Alexander 15th July 2021 06:05 PM

Is it near a gardening centre? Or a dildo outlet?

Stacyhs 15th July 2021 06:29 PM

Riverside is a pit. Or, at least it was when I lived in SoCal.

Belz... 15th July 2021 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13539010)
Is it near a gardening centre? Or a dildo outlet?

Four Insurrections Total Scapegoating.

Apathia 15th July 2021 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13539029)
Riverside is a pit. Or, at least it was when I lived in SoCal.

One of the four kinds of unnatural death:
Homicide
Suicide
Infanticide

Riverside

smartcooky 15th July 2021 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13539010)
Is it near a gardening centre? Or a dildo outlet?

Its is... look at the photo NYG attached - she's standing right next to a dildo!

Stacyhs 16th July 2021 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Apathia (Post 13539156)
One of the four kinds of unnatural death:
Homicide
Suicide
Infanticide

Riverside

:dl:

jimbob 16th July 2021 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkCorrigan (Post 13538830)
I've worked it out! Gaetz looks like Jim Carey cosplaying as Max Headroom.

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Originally Posted by Belz... (Post 13538841)
I will never be able to shake that image, now.

Likewise. I *knew* he looked familiar

Parsman 16th July 2021 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13538249)
Then again, that would have sailed clear over the heads of a significant proportion of the audience and they would simply have revelled in Archie Bunker's reactionary and racist views. :(

Same with the original here. You were meant to laugh at Alf Garnett and his views but a heck of a lot of Brits were found to be nodding and saying he had a point.

eerok 16th July 2021 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkCorrigan (Post 13538830)
I've worked it out! Gaetz looks like Jim Carey cosplaying as Max Headroom.

Or Jack Nicholson in The Shining with a touch of Forrest Gump.

dudalb 16th July 2021 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13539029)
Riverside is a pit. Or, at least it was when I lived in SoCal.

The Riverside Area BLM office (the OTHER BLM) is considered the place in Califfornia you DON"T want to be posted to. Even El Centro is better.

newyorkguy 17th July 2021 05:01 PM

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Best laid plans. After the Riverside venue cancelled them, Gaetz and Greene got a third venue in Anaheim for tonight. But it sounds like they took the City of Anaheim by surprise. Once the city realized what was planned -- and after local residents complained -- the city cancelled the event (apparently this afternoon). ABC News says (in a report filed less than two hours ago):

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[Anaheim] spokesman Mike Lyster said city officials “shared our public safety concerns with the operator and the operator shares the concerns,” the Press-Enterprise reported. "We respect free speech and we are capable of holding events,” Lyster said. “But it was the lack of advance notice for an event that would attract the attention at the level this one would that has raised issues for our city.” Lyster also said city officials had "concerns about the nature of the event and that it does not reflect the city of Anaheim and the values we share.”

Gaetz said on Twitter that they would be holding a protest outside City Hall in Riverside, where one of the events was canceled. An Anaheim spokesman had announced the latest cancellation hours before the rally was scheduled to begin. ABC News link
The rally protesting the cancellations is scheduled to start about three hours from now, 8 o'clock local time. It's billed as a protest "against communism."

Lousy COMMIES! :mad:

LongFuzzy 17th July 2021 05:47 PM

The Anaheim venue is just a couple of blocks from Disneyland. The city council and Disney don't always get along, but in this case maybe they both thought that nazi skin head fascists are 'bad show'?

newyorkguy 17th July 2021 06:08 PM

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My bad. The "Protest Communism" rally was scheduled for 5 pm local time not 8 pm. It's already underway! From The Beast posted a few minutes ago.

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Instead of speaking to a packed arena, the pair were left with the sidewalk outside the Riverside City Hall. Greene used the “Peaceful Protest Against Communism” to hawk vaccine hesitancy. She urged the crowd, “Don’t let them force your kids to wear masks at school. Don’t let your kids be forced to take a vaccine that’s not FDA approved.” Meanwhile, coronavirus cases in California are surging as the more contagious Delta variant rips through the unvaccinated population.

Gaetz, who is currently under federal investigation for sex trafficking and abuse of a minor, railed against “the corrupt forces in the Department of Justice and the FBI” and complained that the private venues’ refusals to host the pair amounted to an infringement on their freedom of speech. “They may try to cancel us online, they may try to pursue us in real life, they may shut down our venues, but we will take this fight to them in the courts, in the halls of Congress, and if necessary in the streets,” he said. The Beast link

Stacyhs 17th July 2021 06:09 PM

I haven't been keeping up on this but this is 3 venues that have cancelled Gaetz-MTG ?

newyorkguy 17th July 2021 06:24 PM

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After being cancelled by three different venues in California -- Pacific Hills, Riverside and Anaheim -- Gaetz and Greene are appearing before a crowd in front of Riverside City Hall. Greene spoke first:
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They spoke before a cheering crowd — estimated at more than 300 — waving Greene and Gaetz signs. Greene took the microphone first, saying “the America First message is for everyone.” She said the news media smeared Donald Trump in hopes of making citizens hate him — but it failed. Greene also called the major news networks’ coverage of last year’s protests misinformed and inaccurate. “Here’s what they need to understand,” she said. “We’re going to put America first, we will not back down.” San Bernardino Sun link

Captain_Swoop 17th July 2021 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbob (Post 13537588)
Well, Alf Garnet was famously disappointed that the racists in Britain didn't realise he was mocking them.

Like Harry Enfield's 'Loadsamoney'.
Those he was mocking thought it was great.

bruto 17th July 2021 07:08 PM

In other words, the venues that had the right to cancel their performances did, while their freedom to speak and assemble was honored...and all they can think to do is whine about communism instead of celebrating the prevalence of true democracy.

gnome 17th July 2021 07:19 PM

There's another bit that turns up inconsistent among MTG's fans. "They're lying to make people hate Trump" and yet at the same time celebrating each and every one of Trump's own open efforts to mock and alienate people that disagree. They like it that he makes people hate him, but then get mad and cry fake when that leads to dropping poll numbers and massive voter turnout against him.

gypsyjackson 18th July 2021 05:30 AM

Not sure Matt Gaetz should be in the business of telling kids they shouldn’t be forced to do things.

This so-called anti-communist stance against anti-racists reminds me of when Rock Against Racism was popular; the Rock Against Communism counter movement was particularly unsavoury.

Belz... 18th July 2021 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bruto (Post 13541315)
In other words, the venues that had the right to cancel their performances did, while their freedom to speak and assemble was honored...and all they can think to do is whine about communism instead of celebrating the prevalence of true democracy.

They're coddled babies grifting other coddled babies.

newyorkguy 18th July 2021 11:55 AM

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Marjorie Taylor Greene 🇺🇸 @mtgreenee
12h @mattgaetz and I are proud to fight for America in the halls of Congress.

Thank you, Southern California for showing up even though the communists tried to cancel us!! Twitter link
Around 300 people showed up for the Gaetz/Greene sidewalk rally and Marj is thanking ALL of Southern California? I also notice that 'socialists' has been replaced by 'communists.' Probably Greene's 'team' decided: "Communist sounds better."

Marj and Matt also visited Huntington Beach. Here is a link to video of their 'beach walk.' I wasn't going to post it but, mercifully, it's only 23 seconds long. Twitter video link I finally watched it but gave up when the assembled 'crowd' began to yell, "Free-DOM." :(

Stacyhs 18th July 2021 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by newyorkguy (Post 13541798)
Around 300 people showed up for the Gaetz/Greene sidewalk rally and Marj is thanking ALL of Southern California? I also notice that 'socialists' has been replaced by 'communists.' Probably Greene's 'team' decided: "Communist sounds better."

Marj and Matt also visited Huntington Beach. Here is a link to video of their 'beach walk.' I wasn't going to post it but, mercifully, it's only 23 seconds long. Twitter video link I finally watched it but gave up when the assembled 'crowd' began to yell, "Free-DOM." :(

That pic brings back memories. Huntington Beach was where we used to hang out when I was in high school.

dudalb 18th July 2021 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by newyorkguy (Post 13541230)
Best laid plans. After the Riverside venue cancelled them, Gaetz and Greene got a third venue in Anaheim for tonight. But it sounds like they took the City of Anaheim by surprise. Once the city realized what was planned -- and after local residents complained -- the city cancelled the event (apparently this afternoon). ABC News says (in a report filed less than two hours ago):



The rally protesting the cancellations is scheduled to start about three hours from now, 8 o'clock local time. It's billed as a protest "against communism."

Lousy COMMIES! :mad:

The Disney company pretty much calls the shots in Anaheim; so now Mickey Mouse is a Commie.

Norman Alexander 18th July 2021 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by newyorkguy (Post 13541798)
Around 300 people showed up for the Gaetz/Greene sidewalk rally and Marj is thanking ALL of Southern California? I also notice that 'socialists' has been replaced by 'communists.' Probably Greene's 'team' decided: "Communist sounds better."

Marj and Matt also visited Huntington Beach. Here is a link to video of their 'beach walk.' I wasn't going to post it but, mercifully, it's only 23 seconds long. Twitter video link I finally watched it but gave up when the assembled 'crowd' began to yell, "Free-DOM." :(

Can I suggest that the vast majority of these onlookers were probably local gawkers who thought it may have been movie stars or someone like that parading on the beach, not this pair of self-promoting twerps. The number of "true followers" would have been a few dozen...not a huge crowd at all.

Also, the whole thing looks HIGHLY staged. Everyone lined up and all. Smile and wave! And where are the two twerps walking TO? The Commie California ocean?

jimbob 18th July 2021 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by newyorkguy (Post 13541798)
Around 300 people showed up for the Gaetz/Greene sidewalk rally and Marj is thanking ALL of Southern California? I also notice that 'socialists' has been replaced by 'communists.' Probably Greene's 'team' decided: "Communist sounds better."

Marj and Matt also visited Huntington Beach. Here is a link to video of their 'beach walk.' I wasn't going to post it but, mercifully, it's only 23 seconds long. Twitter video link I finally watched it but gave up when the assembled 'crowd' began to yell, "Free-DOM." :(

I've seen larger crowds at kindergarten nativity plays.

newyorkguy 18th July 2021 02:39 PM

I think the main purpose of these activities, at least for Marjorie Greene, is fundraising among donors across the US. She has proven to be a prolific fundraiser but, as a former Republican campaign consultant said, she's in a feedback loop. She has to provide ongoing antics in order for the donors to continue sending cash. How much political value is there for a Congress member from Northwest Georgia to go to trouble and expense to appear before 300 people in Southern California? Probably none at all. But the video, the fiery speech, the accusations, that is all undoubtedly done for the entertainment of her many donors.

Lennart Hyland 18th July 2021 02:44 PM

People also chanted "Pedophile!" during their outdoor event.

eerok 18th July 2021 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lennart Hyland (Post 13541930)
People also chanted "Pedophile!" during their outdoor event.

I hope there's a good clip of that, with Gaetz's reaction.

wasapi 18th July 2021 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbob (Post 13541925)
I've seen larger crowds at kindergarten nativity plays.

I agree, though she is smiling and waving at the - crowd - as though she was The Star greeting the masses at the Oscars, nominated for her winning role in a movie about her.

She seems to lack any self awareness at all.


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