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Skeptic Ginger 21st July 2021 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Armitage72 (Post 13545100)
It's like I said elsewhere, it's the verbal equivalent of a cargo cult. She's heard the word "HIPPA" used without actually understanding what it means, and now she chants it as a magic word expecting that it will make something happen.

It's HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act) but don't worry, I spell it wrong all the time myself.

A lot of people don't understand it is not a general medical privacy law at all. It is a law regulating that your provider can't give medical information about you to a 3rd party without your consent. It includes other health care workers giving information out about you they learned in the course of their work. If I find out my neighbor next door has HIV through the neighborhood grape vine, HIPAA does not cover that as it wasn't information being disclosed that providers learned about during the course of their work.

And there is an exception for disclosing what is referred to as public health information so if I have a patient who has been exposed to a person's blood, for example, HIPAA does not prevent me finding out if the patient had any bloodborne pathogens.

There are other medical confidentiality laws, none of which prevent a reporter asking someone a question about their medical condition. MTG is too stupid to realize she doesn't have to answer any question a reporter asks her.

Jim_MDP 21st July 2021 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by carlitos (Post 13545058)
Wiki Feet* still has her at 3 out of 5 stars, which makes me wonder what 1 or 2 star feet look like. (feet are not thing)



*Do NOT click over there on a work computer.

If she's holding at 3 after a week, I can be confident I don't have a foot fetish. [emoji15]

newyorkguy 21st July 2021 05:07 PM

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What seems clear about MTG is, she is not a 'politician' in the usual sense. She doesn't take positions, offer programs of her own, explain her vision of what we as a nation should be doing and where we should be headed. Whether it's calling the kid who survived the school shooting a coward, calling Biden senile or AOC a communist, her role seems to be mostly that of a heckler.

Just in the last week-
  • She accused President Biden of hacking kids' text messages in order to track them down and vaccinate them.
  • She accused "Big Tech" of "brainwashing" kids.
  • Said venues who decided they did not want to host her and Matt Gaetz' rally were knuckling under to communists.
  • California Democrats are actually communist and worked behind-the-scenes to get venues to cancel her rally in Southern California.
  • The news media "smeared" donald trump.
  • Silicon Valley firms were attacking free speech with support from the White House. All social messaging must be White House-approved.
  • Parents should not allow their children to be vaccinated. Only the elderly and obese need worry. Everyone else is "over it."
  • Asked if she takes responsibility for constituent's health she found the question hilarious and said "people’s responsibility is their own."
  • Asked if she believed in science, she answered that she "believed in God."
  • Said Twitter's 12 hour suspension of her account (for distributing dangerous misinformation) was "communist style."

This is not a normal politician. This is not someone with a political position, someone with strong views on policy. This is a heckler. That's all she does. Make accusations, call people names. She never explains what she's talking about because she can't. The White House is tracking kids on social media in order to force them to get vaccinated? How could she explain that rationally? She can't. The reality is, I don't think these comments are made to be taken seriously or at face value. It's just heckling. By a heckler.

Jim_MDP 21st July 2021 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by newyorkguy (Post 13545524)
What seems clear about MTG is, she is not a 'politician' in the usual sense. She doesn't take positions, offer programs of her own, explain her vision of what we as a nation should be doing and where we should be headed. Whether it's calling the kid who survived the school shooting a coward, calling Biden senile or AOC a communist, her role seems to be mostly that of a heckler.



Just in the last week-


  • She accused President Biden of hacking kids' text messages in order to track them down and vaccinate them.
  • She accused "Big Tech" of "brainwashing" kids.
  • Said venues who decided they did not want to host her and Matt Gaetz' rally were knuckling under to communists.
  • California Democrats are actually communist and worked behind-the-scenes to get venues to cancel her rally in Southern California.
  • The news media "smeared" donald trump.
  • Silicon Valley firms were attacking free speech with support from the White House. All social messaging must be White House-approved.
  • Parents should not allow their children to be vaccinated. Only the elderly and obese need worry. Everyone else is "over it."
  • Asked if she takes responsibility for constituent's health she found the question hilarious and said "people’s responsibility is their own."
  • Asked if she believed in science, she answered that she "believed in God."
  • Said Twitter's 12 hour suspension of her account (for distributing dangerous misinformation) was "communist style."



This is not a normal politician. This is not someone with a political position, someone with strong views on policy. This is a heckler. That's all she does. Make accusations, call people names. She never explains what she's talking about because she can't. The White House is tracking kids on social media in order to force them to get vaccinated? How could she explain that rationally? She can't. The reality is, I don't think these comments are made to be taken seriously or at face value. It's just heckling. By a heckler.

Logically, she should have The Tuckmeister on tour ahead of Gaetz. Peas in a pod. [emoji3525]

Stacyhs 21st July 2021 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by newyorkguy (Post 13545524)
What seems clear about MTG is, she is not a 'politician' in the usual sense. She doesn't take positions, offer programs of her own, explain her vision of what we as a nation should be doing and where we should be headed. Whether it's calling the kid who survived the school shooting a coward, calling Biden senile or AOC a communist, her role seems to be mostly that of a heckler.

Just in the last week-
  • She accused President Biden of hacking kids' text messages in order to track them down and vaccinate them.
  • She accused "Big Tech" of "brainwashing" kids.
  • Said venues who decided they did not want to host her and Matt Gaetz' rally were knuckling under to communists.
  • California Democrats are actually communist and worked behind-the-scenes to get venues to cancel her rally in Southern California.
  • The news media "smeared" donald trump.
  • Silicon Valley firms were attacking free speech with support from the White House. All social messaging must be White House-approved.
  • Parents should not allow their children to be vaccinated. Only the elderly and obese need worry. Everyone else is "over it."
  • Asked if she takes responsibility for constituent's health she found the question hilarious and said "people’s responsibility is their own."
  • Asked if she believed in science, she answered that she "believed in God."
  • Said Twitter's 12 hour suspension of her account (for distributing dangerous misinformation) was "communist style."

This is not a normal politician. This is not someone with a political position, someone with strong views on policy. This is a heckler. That's all she does. Make accusations, call people names. She never explains what she's talking about because she can't. The White House is tracking kids on social media in order to force them to get vaccinated? How could she explain that rationally? She can't. The reality is, I don't think these comments are made to be taken seriously or at face value. It's just heckling. By a heckler.

The same could be said of Trump. He really has no policy other than to get attention, grift, and attack anyone who dares disagree with or criticize him. Any "policy" he may seem to have is merely in service to those ends.

smartcooky 22nd July 2021 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by newyorkguy (Post 13545524)
What seems clear about MTG is, she is not a 'politician' in the usual sense. She doesn't take positions, offer programs of her own, explain her vision of what we as a nation should be doing and where we should be headed. Whether it's calling the kid who survived the school shooting a coward, calling Biden senile or AOC a communist, her role seems to be mostly that of a heckler.

Just in the last week-
  • She accused President Biden of hacking kids' text messages in order to track them down and vaccinate them.
  • She accused "Big Tech" of "brainwashing" kids.
  • Said venues who decided they did not want to host her and Matt Gaetz' rally were knuckling under to communists.
  • California Democrats are actually communist and worked behind-the-scenes to get venues to cancel her rally in Southern California.
  • The news media "smeared" donald trump.
  • Silicon Valley firms were attacking free speech with support from the White House. All social messaging must be White House-approved.
  • Parents should not allow their children to be vaccinated. Only the elderly and obese need worry. Everyone else is "over it."
  • Asked if she takes responsibility for constituent's health she found the question hilarious and said "people’s responsibility is their own."
  • Asked if she believed in science, she answered that she "believed in God."
  • Said Twitter's 12 hour suspension of her account (for distributing dangerous misinformation) was "communist style."

This is not a normal politician. This is not someone with a political position, someone with strong views on policy. This is a heckler. That's all she does. Make accusations, call people names. She never explains what she's talking about because she can't. The White House is tracking kids on social media in order to force them to get vaccinated? How could she explain that rationally? She can't. The reality is, I don't think these comments are made to be taken seriously or at face value. It's just heckling. By a heckler.

The description I have been hearing and reading is "Carnival Barker", to my knowledge first coined for her and the other frootloop Boebert woman by Republican PAC called "The Value In Electing Women" This group are fundraisers and have raised $millions for every Republican woman in Congress (House and Senate). However, they have distanced themselves from these two.
Julie Conway, the PAC's executive director said "While we rightfully celebrate the number of GOP women serving in the House, I've always professed quality over quantity. The work of Congress is not a joke or reality show. Our women have fought too hard for too long to be respected and taken seriously as legislators, policymakers and thought leaders. We cannot let this work be erased by individuals who chose to be shameless self-promoters and carnival barkers."

https://www.newsweek.com/gop-womens-...oebert-1607713

Carnival Barker... a succinct and apt description of these two morons IMO!
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The Don 22nd July 2021 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by newyorkguy (Post 13545524)
This is not a normal politician. This is not someone with a political position, someone with strong views on policy. This is a heckler. That's all she does. Make accusations, call people names. She never explains what she's talking about because she can't. The White House is tracking kids on social media in order to force them to get vaccinated? How could she explain that rationally? She can't. The reality is, I don't think these comments are made to be taken seriously or at face value. It's just heckling. By a heckler.

I agree that this historically is not a "normal" politician, but it has become normalised within the GOP.

As Stacyhs pointed out, the de-facto leader of the Republican Party, Donald Trump acts in exactly the same way, as does an increasing number of GOP representatives.

Perhaps it's because the GOP doesn't have a coherent set of policies, perhaps it's because they have fewer and fewer "professionals" in their ranks, perhaps it's because the audience they are attempting to motivate want to be scared into action by catch phrases.

Segnosaur 22nd July 2021 06:32 AM

All I can say is.... HA HA!

From: The Daily Beast
At the height of the controversy surrounding Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) and the revelations that he’s under investigation for sex trafficking, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) bet big on a nationwide joint fundraising tour with her embattled colleague....their campaigns and joint fundraising committee have posted a combined loss of $342,000.
...
Individually, Gaetz and Greene raised $1.34 million and $1.31 million in the second quarter of 2021...Gaetz and Greene could argue that the publicity from their circuit is helping them fundraise individually. Except, they’re not making that argument, and both candidates have actually raised less in this most recent quarter than they did in the first.


So, did the tour result in bad publicity? Or is it just a case where Gaetz and Greene have managed to get all the blood they can from the most idiotic of the MAGAchuds and they are running out of people to fleece?

The Don 22nd July 2021 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Segnosaur (Post 13545929)
All I can say is.... HA HA!

From: The Daily Beast
At the height of the controversy surrounding Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) and the revelations that he’s under investigation for sex trafficking, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) bet big on a nationwide joint fundraising tour with her embattled colleague....their campaigns and joint fundraising committee have posted a combined loss of $342,000.
...
Individually, Gaetz and Greene raised $1.34 million and $1.31 million in the second quarter of 2021...Gaetz and Greene could argue that the publicity from their circuit is helping them fundraise individually. Except, they’re not making that argument, and both candidates have actually raised less in this most recent quarter than they did in the first.


So, did the tour result in bad publicity? Or is it just a case where Gaetz and Greene have managed to get all the blood they can from the most idiotic of the MAGAchuds and they are running out of people to fleece?

......or are they generating a lot of cash but booking a significant net loss for tax purposes ?

Segnosaur 22nd July 2021 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13545938)
Quote:

All I can say is.... HA HA!

From: The Daily Beast
....their campaigns and joint fundraising committee have posted a combined loss of $342,000.
...
...both candidates have actually raised less in this most recent quarter than they did in the first.


So, did the tour result in bad publicity? Or is it just a case where Gaetz and Greene have managed to get all the blood they can from the most idiotic of the MAGAchuds and they are running out of people to fleece?
......or are they generating a lot of cash but booking a significant net loss for tax purposes ?

Not really sure how they would benefit from using tax loopholes or tax fraud. After all, these are political donations, and as such tax isn't really an issue for much of it.

(Not that I wouldn't believe that Greene or Gaetz were involved in shady financial practices, its just that I don't see the mechanism about how they would benefit.)

Skeptic Ginger 22nd July 2021 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13545770)
...

Perhaps it's because the GOP doesn't have a coherent set of policies, perhaps it's because they have fewer and fewer "professionals" in their ranks, perhaps it's because the audience they are attempting to motivate want to be scared into action by catch phrases.

It's all of the above and this version of the GOP has no coherent set of policies for 2 reasons. 1) McConnell has been obsessed with blocking any and all legislation the Democrats put forth even some that originated via Republicans. And 2) it's because they are following Dump who has nothing but whatever results in stroking his ego at that very moment.

KDLarsen 22nd July 2021 01:58 PM

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  • Asked if she takes responsibility for constituent's health she found the question hilarious and said "people’s responsibility is their own."

Meidas Touch is running a brutal ad, overlaying Taylor Greene laughing at the question with the news of a five year old in her district along with other children dying of Covid.

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the ISF. The ISF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.
I AGREE

shemp 22nd July 2021 04:15 PM

There is no justice or karma in a world where an innocent 5 year old can die horribly, but a worthless ******* piece of **** like her not only lives on but millions adore her. But that ad, if her followers see it, won't change their minds.

smartcooky 22nd July 2021 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KDLarsen (Post 13546441)
Meidas Touch is running a brutal ad, overlaying Taylor Greene laughing at the question with the news of a five year old in her district along with other children dying of Covid.

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the ISF. The ISF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.
I AGREE

Brutal. This needs to be spread as widely as possible!

From the comments...

"MAGA - Making American Graves Accumulate"

Stacyhs 22nd July 2021 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by smartcooky (Post 13546548)
Brutal. This needs to be spread as widely as possible!

From the comments...

"MAGA - Making American Graves Accumulate"

Truer words were never spoken except for these: Trump is a sociopathic piece of scum.

Stacyhs 22nd July 2021 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KDLarsen (Post 13546441)
Meidas Touch is running a brutal ad, overlaying Taylor Greene laughing at the question with the news of a five year old in her district along with other children dying of Covid.

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the ISF. The ISF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.
I AGREE

Quote:

Originally Posted by shemp (Post 13546543)
There is no justice or karma in a world where an innocent 5 year old can die horribly, but a worthless ******* piece of **** like her not only lives on but millions adore her. But that ad, if her followers see it, won't change their minds.

They won't see it because it will never be played on OANN, Newsmax or FOX.
But I agree: even if they did they would just hand wave it away as socialistcommie fake news.

eerok 22nd July 2021 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KDLarsen (Post 13546441)
Meidas Touch is running a brutal ad, overlaying Taylor Greene laughing at the question with the news of a five year old in her district along with other children dying of Covid.

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the ISF. The ISF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.
I AGREE

Yeah, that's completely disgusting on her part. MTG is a disease in her own right.

Stacyhs 22nd July 2021 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by eerok (Post 13546561)
Yeah, that's completely disgusting on her part. MTG is a disease in her own right.

I'd ask if there were a vaccine to keep her from spreading, but you can't prevent stupid.

Norman Alexander 22nd July 2021 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13546576)
I'd ask if there were a vaccine to keep her from spreading, but you can't prevent stupid.

Apparently there's this thing in the USA called "The 2nd Amendment Solution". Would that help?

Stacyhs 22nd July 2021 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13546617)
Apparently there's this thing in the USA called "The 2nd Amendment Solution". Would that help?

When was the last time a Democrat assassinated a Republican? And I do NOT want to hear the crap that Lincoln was a Republican. The Republicans of Lincoln's time had nothing in common with today's GOP. The parties switched philosophies in the 1960's.

smartcooky 22nd July 2021 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13546631)
When was the last time a Democrat assassinated a Republican? And I do NOT want to hear the crap that Lincoln was a Republican. The Republicans of Lincoln's time had nothing in common with today's GOP. The parties switched philosophies in the 1960's.

Correct.

John Wilkes Booth was a Confederate sympathizer, a racist and a supperter of slavery - that makes him far more politically aligned with the right than the left.

Norman Alexander 22nd July 2021 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13546631)
When was the last time a Democrat assassinated a Republican? And I do NOT want to hear the crap that Lincoln was a Republican. The Republicans of Lincoln's time had nothing in common with today's GOP. The parties switched philosophies in the 1960's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by smartcooky (Post 13546639)
Correct.

John Wilkes Booth was a Confederate sympathizer, a racist and a supperter of slavery - that makes him far more politically aligned with the right than the left.

But the MAGAchuds are SO in favour of 2nd Amendment solutions, so I thought they would be chuffed if it was used on someone.
:sarcasm:

Skeptic Ginger 22nd July 2021 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KDLarsen (Post 13546441)
Meidas Touch is running a brutal ad, overlaying Taylor Greene laughing at the question with the news of a five year old in her district along with other children dying of Covid.

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the ISF. The ISF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.
I AGREE

Wow!

That's an effective ad. I hope I see it more often.

smartcooky 22nd July 2021 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13546665)
But the MAGAchuds are SO in favour of 2nd Amendment solutions, so I thought they would be chuffed if it was used on someone.
:sarcasm:

A cop already did that, in the Captiol, on 1/6.

Segnosaur 22nd July 2021 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KDLarsen (Post 13546441)
Meidas Touch is running a brutal ad, overlaying Taylor Greene laughing at the question with the news of a five year old in her district along with other children dying of Covid.

I seem to remember some controversy over
A rather tasteless anti-LGBTQ sign Greene put up outside her office in the capitol.

I wonder if one of her office neighbors could install a screen outside their office with this ad on a continuous loop.


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quadraginta 23rd July 2021 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13545770)
Quote:

Originally Posted by newyorkguy (Post 13545524)
This is not a normal politician. This is not someone with a political position, someone with strong views on policy. This is a heckler. That's all she does. Make accusations, call people names. She never explains what she's talking about because she can't. The White House is tracking kids on social media in order to force them to get vaccinated? How could she explain that rationally? She can't. The reality is, I don't think these comments are made to be taken seriously or at face value. It's just heckling. By a heckler.


I agree that this historically is not a "normal" politician, but it has become normalised within the GOP.

As Stacyhs pointed out, the de-facto leader of the Republican Party, Donald Trump acts in exactly the same way, as does an increasing number of GOP representatives.

Perhaps it's because the GOP doesn't have a coherent set of policies, perhaps it's because they have fewer and fewer "professionals" in their ranks, perhaps it's because the audience they are attempting to motivate want to be scared into action by catch phrases.


This is the point I was going to respond with.

It is no longer needful or even useful for someone competing in a GOP primary to have any consistent positions or moral or ethical compass. All they have to do is parrot the lies their constituency wants to hear, and make up new and even more outrageous ones to keep the cameras on them.

Once having made it past the primaries they can be confident that knee-jerk GOP voters will check off their side of the ticket.

I'm not sure how outrageous they would have to be to get any of those voters to decide they would rather vote for a Democrat, but the evidence suggests we have a long way to go before we ever reach that point.

gnome 23rd July 2021 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by quadraginta (Post 13547115)
I'm not sure how outrageous they would have to be to get any of those voters to decide they would rather vote for a Democrat, but the evidence suggests we have a long way to go before we ever reach that point.

One of the things I'm hopeful for is that whoever takes up the torch after Donald Trump's star eventually fades will not have the uncanny cult of personality that galvanizes that constituency and deflects scandal. So that same behavior may not push anyone to Democrats, but is less likely to get their target audience into the voting booth in the first place.

The next wanna-be icons of this group may not so easily be perceived as above it all.

Can't count on that of course and decide it's going to all fade away, but it may be a factor.

newyorkguy 23rd July 2021 12:31 PM

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She really does have a talent for getting that bar down low!

dudalb 23rd July 2021 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Segnosaur (Post 13545929)
All I can say is.... HA HA!

From: The Daily Beast
At the height of the controversy surrounding Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) and the revelations that he’s under investigation for sex trafficking, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) bet big on a nationwide joint fundraising tour with her embattled colleague....their campaigns and joint fundraising committee have posted a combined loss of $342,000.
...
Individually, Gaetz and Greene raised $1.34 million and $1.31 million in the second quarter of 2021...Gaetz and Greene could argue that the publicity from their circuit is helping them fundraise individually. Except, they’re not making that argument, and both candidates have actually raised less in this most recent quarter than they did in the first.


So, did the tour result in bad publicity? Or is it just a case where Gaetz and Greene have managed to get all the blood they can from the most idiotic of the MAGAchuds and they are running out of people to fleece?

I would like to think that they are running out of suckers, but Mr Barnum's comment on the birth rate of the extremely gullible remains revelent.

mgidm86 23rd July 2021 05:00 PM

I actually don't like the ad. It's too easy to attack.

"Oh look she only laughed when the interviewer said "skinny people"! Wasn't the interviewer kind of joking just a little? MTG wasn't laughing at deaths of children! Out of context!"

And it kinda is. They play people talking about Covid deaths then add the clip of her laughing after each of them. But she didn't actually laugh at them.

Why do that when she has said so many awful things that need no such editing? Even if any Republicans did watch it that is what they would say. It's what I said the first time I watched it.

Show how bad she is in her own words, in context, with no silly editing. Shouldn't be that difficult. This ad gives too many ways out for the MTG fans. It's weak.

Resume 23rd July 2021 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mgidm86 (Post 13547479)
I actually don't like the ad. It's too easy to attack.

"Oh look she only laughed when the interviewer said "skinny people"! Wasn't the interviewer kind of joking just a little? MTG wasn't laughing at deaths of children! Out of context!"

And it kinda is. They play people talking about Covid deaths then add the clip of her laughing after each of them. But she didn't actually laugh at them.

Why do that when she has said so many awful things that need no such editing? Even if any Republicans did watch it that is what they would say. It's what I said the first time I watched it.

Show how bad she is in her own words, in context, with no silly editing. Shouldn't be that difficult. This ad gives too many ways out for the MTG fans. It's weak.

She laughed at skinny people dying from COVID; what's funny about that?

newyorkguy 24th July 2021 03:37 AM

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I see both sides of this. First, I think it shows -- as people have written on Greene's Twitter page -- she has the intelligence and maturity of your average third grader. Greene was reacting, I said 'obese,' Tia said, 'skinny' Hahahahaha!!!! Too funny!!!!

But it was a serious question. Greene has been urging people, especially parents, to NOT get vaccinated. Greene has said repeatedly, only the obese and the elderly need worry about Covid-19 and that is wrong. Greene certainly must know that but she obviously doesn't care. Does she take responsibility for people's health? After she composed herself she answered that no she doesn't take responsibility. People are responsible for their own health. She said the information is out there, it's everywhere. Seemed to be pretty clearly implying, if anyone ignores the extensive medical findings and instead goes by what Marjorie Taylor Greene says, well then, they deserve to get sick. (When asked if SHE has been vaccinated, Greene refused to answer.)

She's not a doctor and this is clearly not a medical issue to her. It's a political issue for her to capitalize on. If there was no anti-vax crowd she'd probably never mention it. So some people may have listened to her, decided not to get vaccinated and then later became sick? Above her pay grade.

Trebuchet 24th July 2021 07:51 AM

And Rand Paul IS a doctor (eye) and is just as bad.

dudalb 24th July 2021 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 13547835)
And Rand Paul IS a doctor (eye) and is just as bad.

Some doctors just seem to go off the rails once they get their MD's and Medical lickences.
Look at all the MD who have bought into Alternative Medicine.

Belz... 24th July 2021 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13548053)
Some doctors just seem to go off the rails once they get their MD's and Medical lickences.
Look at all the MD who have bought into Alternative Medicine.

It's clear that being smart doesn't mean you're not stupid.

(If that makes sense).

Resume 24th July 2021 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by newyorkguy (Post 13547701)
I see both sides of this. First, I think it shows -- as people have written on Greene's Twitter page -- she has the intelligence and maturity of your average third grader. Greene was reacting, I said 'obese,' Tia said, 'skinny' Hahahahaha!!!! Too funny!!!!

But it was a serious question. Greene has been urging people, especially parents, to NOT get vaccinated. Greene has said repeatedly, only the obese and the elderly need worry about Covid-19 and that is wrong. Greene certainly must know that but she obviously doesn't care. Does she take responsibility for people's health? After she composed herself she answered that no she doesn't take responsibility. People are responsible for their own health. She said the information is out there, it's everywhere. Seemed to be pretty clearly implying, if anyone ignores the extensive medical findings and instead goes by what Marjorie Taylor Greene says, well then, they deserve to get sick. (When asked if SHE has been vaccinated, Greene refused to answer.)

She's not a doctor and this is clearly not a medical issue to her. It's a political issue for her to capitalize on. If there was no anti-vax crowd she'd probably never mention it. So some people may have listened to her, decided not to get vaccinated and then later became sick? Above her pay grade.

It's all about the grift. She's grifting off a public health crisis, I don't know if she's really a sociopatb/psycopath, but I do know she's pond scum.

mgidm86 24th July 2021 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Resume (Post 13547511)
She laughed at skinny people dying from COVID; what's funny about that?


Trumper: "she made a nervous laugh when the interviewer said "skinny people". The interviewer threw in a bit of levity, that's all, and now they make it look like she laughs at dying kids by editing videos. Fake!"

It was a bit strange to throw that in there. Yes, I see how screwed up she is, and yes I see how stupid and heartless her response was.

But to someone who wants to defend her this is pretty weak. Editing video like that does not work well, it just gives them an excuse to hold onto. We are talking about simple minds.

I could make a more effective ad than this using non-edited, in context video.

Nothing will convice her fans, but people like my parents can be, and have been convinced that she is nuts. All I did was send them some quotes.

Resume 24th July 2021 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mgidm86 (Post 13548127)
Trumper: "she made a nervous laugh when the interviewer said "skinny people". The interviewer threw in a bit of levity, that's all, and now they make it look like she laughs at dying kids by editing videos. Fake!".

Yes, I watched the original C-Span video: it wasn't a nervous laugh, the reporter asked if she felt any responsibility and if she understood skinny people were dying. MTG laughed, saying it cracked her up (duh) and people's responsibilities were their own, implying she bore none for promoting cement-headed anti-mask, anti-vax, anti-science attitudes. Trumpists will call anything fake that doesn't correspond with their prejudices. **** 'em.

Stacyhs 24th July 2021 05:09 PM

I hope every single one of these politicians and pundits who has been anti-Covid vaccination gets Covid and ends up in the hospital on a ventilator.

newyorkguy 24th July 2021 05:40 PM

At the July 20th press conference Greene held in her Congressional office -- or in a press room available to members of Congress -- she was asked did she feel any responsibility for people's health? Part of her answer to the question was-

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"To read the information ― and it’s everywhere. You can’t go by any street corner practically and not see something about COVID-19. I believe in people’s own individual responsibility to read, to find out and to make their own decision.”
What information is everywhere? That it's a hoax? Only effects the obese and elderly? That plenty of exercise is the best way to ensure you don't contract Covid-19? That's what Greene has been saying but I don't get the impression that's what she's referring to. I get the impression she's referring to the standard advice, wear a mask, practice social distancing and get vaccinated. That's the advice I see everywhere. That answer seemed to me to be an admission -- not deliberate but unthinkingly clear -- that Greene has just been playing politics with this from Day One. That if you were a family member she'd probably tell you, be careful, wear a mask. Don't go by me, honey, this is all politics. You need to get yourself vaccinated.

In fact, on some level I think we all know this, even her supporters.

Wish I'd be around in fifty years to see how history records this time period. Very weird days we're living in.

Wonder what John Lennon would have made of all this? ;)


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