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Skeptic Ginger 19th January 2021 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13367203)
There's been any number of "scandals" befall Representatives who have had to resign as a result.

Yes but you implied her colleagues would 'make it happen'. That's a different animal.

Norman Alexander 19th January 2021 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 13367266)
Yes but you implied her colleagues would 'make it happen'. That's a different animal.

You are implying that I have inside information?? Eh, no.

I'm suggesting that her colleagues will not be particularly forthcoming in defending her, and may even be instrumental in helping her overboard. She isn't helping herself very much, and I'm not seeing a great mass of defending socials from her party comrades.

The Don 20th January 2021 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13367085)
She's isn't so much stepping in stinky farmyard manure herself so much as smearing it on all her GOP "friends" as well. If she doesn't learn to keep her mouth shut at inopportune times, her more worldly-wise party representatives are going to "arrange" for her to have a scandal and get dismissed somehow.

Greene now represents the views of a sizeable minority, perhaps the majority, of GOP voters so there is little appetite for getting rid of her.

In light of the last four years, I find it difficult to imagine the kind of scandal that would cause a GOP representative to resign or be dismissed. What used to be considered grifting or fraud is now de rigeur.

Skeptic Ginger 20th January 2021 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13367272)
You are implying that I have inside information?? Eh, no.

I'm suggesting that her colleagues will not be particularly forthcoming in defending her, and may even be instrumental in helping her overboard. She isn't helping herself very much, and I'm not seeing a great mass of defending socials from her party comrades.

Look, just own your ******* sentence, all right? You misspoke, it's not what you meant, whatever. But don't act like you never said this:
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If she doesn't learn to keep her mouth shut at inopportune times, her more worldly-wise party representatives are going to "arrange" for her to have a scandal and get dismissed somehow.

Bob001 20th January 2021 02:10 AM

Have we noted that she thinks the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas school massacre was a false-flag operation?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/qa...out&li=BBnb7Kz

TheSupermeerkat 20th January 2021 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob001 (Post 13367414)
Have we noted that she thinks the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas school massacre was a false-flag operation?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/qa...out&li=BBnb7Kz

Yeah, which comes as no surprise. I'm expecting something involving teh joos sooner rather than later.

Regnad Kcin 21st January 2021 07:23 PM

Well, she’s gone and done it.

I suppose the mocking and derision she is inviting will be a small price to pay in exchange for the rubes paying her back a thousand fold in cold, hard cash.

smartcooky 21st January 2021 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin (Post 13369856)
Well, she’s gone and done it.

I suppose the mocking and derision she is inviting will be a small price to pay in exchange for the rubes paying her back a thousand fold in cold, hard cash.

She is a certifiable loony!

Stacyhs 21st January 2021 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by smartcooky (Post 13369870)
She is a certifiable loony!

But lets not call her stupid.

Venom 21st January 2021 08:04 PM

Wow how did this delusional bitch get elected?

I never thought someone with such conspiracist street cred could get elected, but probably despite it. Doesn't seem to be doing anything worthwhile to uncover the world-shaking conspiracies she believes are real though. At least Donald Trump wasted tons of tax payer and donor money on a few of his conspiracy theories.

Stacyhs 21st January 2021 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Venom (Post 13369877)
Wow how did this delusional bitch get elected?

I never thought someone with such conspiracist street cred could get elected, but probably despite it. Doesn't seem to be doing anything worthwhile to uncover the world-shaking conspiracies she believes are real though. At least Donald Trump wasted tons of tax payer and donor money on a few of his conspiracy theories.

We're talking rural Georgia. Nuff said.

dudalb 21st January 2021 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Venom (Post 13369877)
Wow how did this delusional bitch get elected?

I never thought someone with such conspiracist street cred could get elected, but probably despite it. Doesn't seem to be doing anything worthwhile to uncover the world-shaking conspiracies she believes are real though. At least Donald Trump wasted tons of tax payer and donor money on a few of his conspiracy theories.

Never been to the rural South ,have you?

dudalb 21st January 2021 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by smartcooky (Post 13369870)
She is a certifiable loony!

And from the US House of Representives, another exciting game of "Spot The Loony"...

Norman Alexander 21st January 2021 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 13367406)
Look, just own your ******* sentence, all right? You misspoke, it's not what you meant, whatever. But don't act like you never said this:

Touchy or what. :rolleyes:

I didn't misspeak. You read it wrong. Stop thinking of it like an American gangster story and it makes sense.

There, we can both play this game.

Norman Alexander 21st January 2021 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13367389)
Greene now represents the views of a sizeable minority, perhaps the majority, of GOP voters so there is little appetite for getting rid of her.

In light of the last four years, I find it difficult to imagine the kind of scandal that would cause a GOP representative to resign or be dismissed. What used to be considered grifting or fraud is now de rigeur.

I take your point. After Trump (and how good is it to say that!), the scale and/or rankness of scandal would have to be exceptionally gross to sway some fellow Republicans.

Shadowdweller 22nd January 2021 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Venom (Post 13369877)
Wow how did this delusional bitch get elected?

I never thought someone with such conspiracist street cred could get elected, but probably despite it. Doesn't seem to be doing anything worthwhile to uncover the world-shaking conspiracies she believes are real though. At least Donald Trump wasted tons of tax payer and donor money on a few of his conspiracy theories.

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13369881)
We're talking rural Georgia. Nuff said.

Running unopposed after her Democratic rival fell afoul of divorce and residency requirements didn't hurt either.

catsmate 22nd January 2021 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13364496)
If she is an Area-51 aliens believer then we may have a trifecta. And also it will mean she is not long for that chamber.

By-the-by, what IS the shortest term of office for a member of Congress?

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Originally Posted by slyjoe (Post 13364580)
My guess is negative. As in, a congressman was elected by didn't get sworn in because he died between the election and the start of the new term.

Excluding those who were deceased, and thus (surprisingly) unable to technically hold office the record is one day (Effingham Lawrence). That incident is complicated and involves a contested election. More recently Kwanza Hall served for 31 days.

smartcooky 22nd January 2021 11:23 AM

Not only does she promote the CT that the Parkland shooting was a false flag, she thinks Sandy Hook was fake as well, and she's being called on it by survivors and the parents of victims of both shootings.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...gn=wp_national
The Parkland chapter of March for Our Lives called Greene a “coward.”

“The shooting at our school was real. Real kids died and our community is still grieving today. You should be ashamed of yourself and resign from congress,” the organization tweeted. “Conspiracy theorists don’t deserve a seat in the people’s house.”

David Hogg, the activist and co-founder of March for Our Lives, vowed to organize against Greene if she did not apologize for the comments.

“I have one message for @RepMTG,” tweeted Hogg, a Parkland survivor. “Apologize Now or continue to spread the conspiracies and we will be sure to make the next two years of your life not only your last in Congress but a living hell as well.”
This young man has the ear of some pretty powerful people as well as the mainstream media, and he's good at organizing effective protest campaigns. The pressure could soon be coming on this QNut to get out of the house.

dudalb 22nd January 2021 01:39 PM

Not wanting to be left behind in the stupid contest. Boebrick has intorudced a measure repealing Biden's Mask Mandate.
The Republican war on science continues.

Stacyhs 22nd January 2021 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadowdweller (Post 13370095)
Running unopposed after her Democratic rival fell afoul of divorce and residency requirements didn't hurt either.

Her Dem opponent didn't stand a chance of winning as that district is a deeply red district. The fact that MT-G could win the primary against Cowan, a neurosurgeon who was just as much a Trumper and Bible thumper as any "true Patriot" could want tells you something.

Cowan campaign website statement:

“We need a representative in Washington with the backbone to stand up to deranged Democrats and weak Republicans. In Congress, I’ll fight beside President Donald J. Trump to protect our values and end the liberal assault on our God-given rights.”

Stacyhs 22nd January 2021 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13370716)
Not wanting to be left behind in the stupid contest. Boebrick has intorudced a measure repealing Biden's Mask Mandate.
The Republican war on science continues.

Science is only a theory. :rolleyes:

dudalb 22nd January 2021 03:05 PM

Can you change the title of a thread you start?
I would like to change the title of this thread to "The Marjorie Green/Lauren Boebert Thread".

Venom 22nd January 2021 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13370823)
Can you change the title of a thread you start?
I would like to change the title of this thread to "The Marjorie Green/Lauren Boebert Thread".

Seconded.

dudalb 22nd January 2021 05:20 PM

BTW my last post is a serious question: Is there someway I can change the title of a thread I created?

kookbreaker 22nd January 2021 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13370960)
BTW my last post is a serious question: Is there someway I can change the title of a thread I created?

I think you need to DM a mod.

dudalb 27th January 2021 01:25 PM

Taylor Greene supported executing Democratic Leaders:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/26/polit...nce/index.html

dudalb 27th January 2021 02:24 PM

More batcrap insanity from Taylor Green:

https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3ge...spiracy-theory

shemp 27th January 2021 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13375671)
More batcrap insanity from Taylor Green:

https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3ge...spiracy-theory

Holy ****! If that isn't 1000% absolutely bat **** crazy then nothing is!

dudalb 27th January 2021 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by shemp (Post 13375675)
Holy ****! If that isn't 1000% absolutely bat **** crazy then nothing is!

Sanity is Fake News.

Stacyhs 27th January 2021 04:31 PM

Taylor Greene has been appointed to the House Education and Labor Committee despite her claiming that the shootings at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, FL and Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, "weren't real" but were "false flag" operations intended to drum up support for gun control. She is one crazy biatch.

pgwenthold 27th January 2021 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13375776)
Taylor Greene has been appointed to the House Education and Labor Committee despite her claiming that the shootings at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, FL and Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, "weren't real" but were "false flag" operations intended to drum up support for gun control. She is one crazy biatch.

Who in the republican leadership did that?

Stacyhs 27th January 2021 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 13375778)
Who in the republican leadership did that?

The House Republican conference which is headed my Liz Cheney. I don't know who within the conference came up with that bright idea.

dmaker 27th January 2021 07:41 PM

Channel 3 crew threatened with arrest after asking Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene a question during town hall meeting


https://t.co/GZh5ZDL1CW?amp=1

Bob001 27th January 2021 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13375671)
More batcrap insanity from Taylor Green:

https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3ge...spiracy-theory

It's hard to understand why embracing lunacy like this isn't treated as a true psychiatric disorder, rendering someone unfit to hold any responsible public or private job, care for children, etc., etc.

Bob001 27th January 2021 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadowdweller (Post 13370095)
Running unopposed after her Democratic rival fell afoul of divorce and residency requirements didn't hurt either.


It's a heavily Repub district. But she ran in the Repub primary against eight other candidates. This is anoher argument for rank-choice voting. She won 40% of the primary vote, but that means 60% of the voters wanted somebody else. If they could have named a second or third choice, she might not have been the one to go to the run-off.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marjor..._note-dyRVR-18

Stacyhs 28th January 2021 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob001 (Post 13375966)
It's a heavily Repub district. But she ran in the Repub primary against eight other candidates. This is anoher argument for rank-choice voting. She won 40% of the primary vote, but that means 60% of the voters wanted somebody else. If they could have named a second or third choice, she might not have been the one to go to the run-off.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marjor..._note-dyRVR-18

The fact that she could even get 40% of the vote is scary, especially when the candidate getting the next amount of greatest votes was a die hard Trump supporting neurosurgeon.

The Don 28th January 2021 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob001 (Post 13375966)
It's a heavily Repub district. But she ran in the Repub primary against eight other candidates. This is anoher argument for rank-choice voting. She won 40% of the primary vote, but that means 60% of the voters wanted somebody else. If they could have named a second or third choice, she might not have been the one to go to the run-off.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marjor..._note-dyRVR-18

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13376107)
The fact that she could even get 40% of the vote is scary, especially when the candidate getting the next amount of greatest votes was a die hard Trump supporting neurosurgeon.

I think the "mainstream" in the US need to acknowledge that QAnon is firmly entrenched in the GOP and that its influence is only going to grow. We've seen it before with religious fundamentalists and with the Tea Party, the Republican Party is very good at embracing what appear to be fringe movements and then moving its centre (or perhaps extending its boundaries) to make them quite usual in short order.

That Taylor Greene has been appointed to the House Education and Labor Committee is a clear nod that she, and her views, have been very quickly embraced by the Republican Party. Heck, her QAnon views are not so different than the view that the election was stolen and that's Republican Party policy these days. :mad:

Venom 28th January 2021 01:15 AM

She should be removed from office. No seriously.

She can't be in a position of public leadership.

The Don 28th January 2021 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Venom (Post 13376116)
She should be removed from office. No seriously.

She can't be in a position of public leadership.

Why not ?

She represents the views of a substantial minority of one of the US' two major political parties. IMO as with President Trump she is just a symptom and if you were to remove her, she'd rapidly be replaced with someone with similar, or even more extreme, views.

I think what the US and the rest of the Western world needs to think about is how such a ridiculous conspiracy theory could get sufficient traction that it has become a major force in politics.

The Great Zaganza 28th January 2021 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13376117)
Why not ?

She represents the views of a substantial minority of one of the US' two major political parties. IMO as with President Trump she is just a symptom and if you were to remove her, she'd rapidly be replaced with someone with similar, or even more extreme, views.

I think what the US and the rest of the Western world needs to think about is how such a ridiculous conspiracy theory could get sufficient traction that it has become a major force in politics.

You convinced me.

The House should vote to remove a substantial minority of one of the US' two major political parties.

Stacyhs 28th January 2021 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13376115)
I think the "mainstream" in the US need to acknowledge that QAnon is firmly entrenched in the GOP and that its influence is only going to grow. We've seen it before with religious fundamentalists and with the Tea Party, the Republican Party is very good at embracing what appear to be fringe movements and then moving its centre (or perhaps extending its boundaries) to make them quite usual in short order.

That Taylor Greene has been appointed to the House Education and Labor Committee is a clear nod that she, and her views, have been very quickly embraced by the Republican Party. Heck, her QAnon views are not so different than the view that the election was stolen and that's Republican Party policy these days. :mad:

I don't think that QAnon is going to grow. I think it's a flash in the pan. Sure, there will be the die hard whackadoodles; there always are. But that's just like there will always be the birthers, the 9/11 and moon landing truthers but it's not going to go mainstream GOP. MTG is still going to be a nutter even among the majority of the GOP in Congress and they'll laugh at her behind closed doors even while appointing her to the House Education and Labor Committee because if there's one thing the GOP does for the most part it's follow Reagan's Eleventh Commandment "Thou shall not speak ill of another Republican"...at least in public.

The Great Zaganza 28th January 2021 01:54 AM

I agree with The Don that Q is here to stay, if as nothing more than an anchor that other pet CTs will have to attach themselves in some way.

Squeegee Beckenheim 28th January 2021 03:10 AM

I mean, if proof were needed that QAnon is an amazingly successful trolling campaign, the name "frazzledrip" should suffice.

Jim_MDP 28th January 2021 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13375671)
More batcrap insanity from Taylor Green:

https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3ge...spiracy-theory

Well... alrighty then. [emoji15][emoji15][emoji15]

Trebuchet 28th January 2021 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13375776)
Taylor Greene has been appointed to the House Education and Labor Committee despite her claiming that the shootings at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, FL and Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, "weren't real" but were "false flag" operations intended to drum up support for gun control. She is one crazy biatch.

I caught a couple minutes of a Pelosi press conference this morning. Someone asked about that and she was geunuinely pissed off. Irate, even.

Trebuchet 28th January 2021 12:01 PM

Bad Legal Takes

shemp 28th January 2021 01:22 PM

Marjorie Taylor Greene penned conspiracy theory that a laser beam from space started deadly 2018 California wildfire


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In November 2018, California was hit with the worst wildfire in the state’s history. At the time, future Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) wrote a bizarre Facebook post that echoed QAnon conspiracy theorists and falsely claimed that the real and hidden culprit behind the disaster was a laser from space triggered by some nefarious group of people.
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Rep. Greene is a proponent of the Camp Fire laser beam conspiracy theory. She wrote a November 17, 2018, Facebook post -- which is no longer available online -- in which she said that she was speculating “because there are too many coincidences to ignore” regarding the fire, including that then-California Gov. Jerry Brown (D) wanted to build the high-speed rail project and “oddly there are all these people who have said they saw what looked like lasers or blue beams of light causing the fires.” She also speculated that a vice chairman at “Rothschild Inc, international investment banking firm” was somehow involved, and suggested the fire was caused by a beam from “space solar generators.”

Greene added: “If they are beaming the suns energy back to Earth, I’m sure they wouldn’t ever miss a transmitter receiving station right??!! I mean mistakes are never made when anything new is invented. What would that look like anyway? A laser beam or light beam coming down to Earth I guess. Could that cause a fire? Hmmm, I don’t know. I hope not! That wouldn’t look so good for PG&E, Rothschild Inc, Solaren or Jerry Brown who sure does seem fond of PG&E.”


dudalb 28th January 2021 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13376119)
I don't think that QAnon is going to grow. I think it's a flash in the pan. Sure, there will be the die hard whackadoodles; there always are. But that's just like there will always be the birthers, the 9/11 and moon landing truthers but it's not going to go mainstream GOP. MTG is still going to be a nutter even among the majority of the GOP in Congress and they'll laugh at her behind closed doors even while appointing her to the House Education and Labor Committee because if there's one thing the GOP does for the most part it's follow Reagan's Eleventh Commandment "Thou shall not speak ill of another Republican"...at least in public.

The GOP leaders in the house stuck her in the commitees where she could do the lead damage. You have to give every congressperson some commitee assignments and education and labor are among the least powerful commitees..

kookbreaker 28th January 2021 03:06 PM

She’s from a safely red district, if the GOP was wise, or even tired of her crap already, they’d let her get tossed and just get another Republican elected there.

Mader Levap 28th January 2021 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13375679)
Sanity is Fake News.

We all know what happened last time far-rightwing nutty party full of conspiracy theories that entered mainstream took power.


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